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00:00:26 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-246-138-98.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:08:22 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:20:07 *** michi_cc [michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 00:20:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 00:22:55 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-246-138-98.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:25:41 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:28:06 *** CompuDesktop [~Compu@cpe-67-246-138-98.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:06 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-246-138-98.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:29 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-255-36-150.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:55:37 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 00:56:50 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 00:56:55 <Samu> is this good english? 00:56:56 <Samu> STR_CONFIG_SETTING_AI_RESTART_DEAD_HELPTEXT :Enabling this setting permits the AIs to restart themselves if they have encountered an error, without notificating the player about it and without reseting the company they are controlling. 00:57:38 *** mindlesstux_ [~mindlesst@daedalus.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 01:03:25 <Samu> http://imgur.com/a/Sk5o1 01:03:26 <Samu> keks 01:03:36 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@daedalus.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:03:36 *** mindlesstux_ is now known as mindlesstux 01:03:36 <Samu> what can you say about that english 01:04:12 <Samu> oh, the :on, off thingy is missing, must fix 01:13:01 <Samu> fixed 01:13:44 <Samu> any native english speaker? 01:36:06 <alask0ud> Hey, I can speak english relatively good, but I'm noob to OTTD 01:36:19 <alask0ud> I see you've been talking alone all day haha 01:40:21 <planetmaker> English proficiency is no prerequisite to playing OpenTTD ;) 01:41:54 <Samu> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=75167 - posted it here 01:42:03 <Samu> if anyone wants to test it out 01:44:26 <alask0ud> That's why I'm noob lol 01:48:13 <Eddi|zuHause> strange time for a random planetmaker to appear. 01:49:52 <Flygon> planetmaker: It might be if your primary language isn't in Latin script :) 01:50:22 <Flygon> Otherwise loading a NewGRF, and readng train names 01:50:47 <Flygon> And the Korean person reads it thinking "What the fuck is a Victorian Railways Walker Railcar?" 01:50:55 <Flygon> ...granted, I don't think the 2CC set has that yet :U 01:51:05 <Flygon> Point is, it wouldn't be in Hangul : 01:51:08 <Flygon> :P* 01:52:17 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-91-250-188.netvisao.pt] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:52:25 <Eddi|zuHause> but knowing what a vehicle name means is also not really necessary for playing openttd 01:53:05 <Eddi|zuHause> like, for many years i misinterpreted what the "BR" in the original vehicle names meant... 01:56:02 <planetmaker> Flygon, latin script is no pre-requisite either 01:56:24 <Flygon> xP It does help a lot, tho 01:56:29 <Flygon> Eddi: Lemme guess. "Brazil"? 01:56:50 <Flygon> I use to play Ragnarok Online in the mid-00s, and wondered why everyone was referring to British Railways 01:57:00 <Flygon> Turned out they were annoyed by all the Portuguese speakers 02:17:51 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4e310f8f.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 02:28:07 *** alask0ud [~Superdry^@181.169.232.64] has quit [Quit: On the other hand, you have different fingers.] 02:46:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6CB8D.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:11:51 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-137-142.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 03:33:32 *** Flygon [~Flygon@210-84-33-145.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:34:52 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:37:03 *** Flygon [~Flygon@210-84-33-145.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:38:49 *** nilez [~nilez@96.44.145.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:38:58 *** nilez [~nilez@96.44.142.242] has joined #openttd 03:39:41 <Eddi|zuHause> Flygon: no, not brazil... 03:40:23 <Flygon> Hmm? 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08:24:09 <Wolf01> One original and one heavily modded ;) 08:30:14 <Wolf01> And now the challenge: https://youtu.be/c7CFzDepXfM 08:33:30 <Alberth> o/ 08:40:26 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40:57 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:42:09 <Wolf01> Quak 08:43:39 <frosch123> hoi 08:52:30 <frosch123> SLUGwtf2.png 08:52:49 <Wolf01> Yes 08:57:36 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-137-142.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 09:03:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6C366.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:09:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6CB8D.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:27:35 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x5ce48edf.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 09:29:42 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 09:51:05 <V453000> frosch123: ? 09:51:21 <frosch123> i was looking for some test sprites :p 09:51:52 <V453000> :D 09:53:19 <frosch123> any idea how to combine a 8bpp image with the alpha channel from some other image? 09:54:28 <frosch123> hmm, actually... i guess nml already does that for me 09:54:35 *** CactiChad [~CactiChad@ppp14-2-125-236.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:04:08 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-91-250-188.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 10:04:13 <Samu> hi 10:21:58 *** Antheus [Antheus@janus.theender.net] has quit [Quit: Are you ready kids?] 10:23:21 <Flygon> Fugg 10:23:23 <Flygon> I'm an idiot 10:23:46 <Flygon> Was it 2CC 2.0 alpha1 or 2.0.0 beta 5 that was most recent? 10:24:40 <Flygon> right, alpha1 10:25:03 *** Antheus [Antheus@janus.theender.net] has joined #openttd 11:13:21 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 11:22:49 <Wolf01> http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=139035 ha! 11:25:31 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-3-129.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:25:56 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-3-129.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 11:34:35 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34:56 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 11:42:55 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:43:52 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 11:51:22 <Samu> I just "Build/Run Code Analysis on Solution" on Visual Studio and it came up with 120 warnings 11:51:25 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/psmxrrjea 11:51:32 <Samu> are they of any importance? 12:02:47 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 12:04:53 *** Antheus [Antheus@janus.theender.net] has quit [Quit: Are you ready kids?] 12:05:51 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08:47 *** Antheus [Antheus@janus.theender.net] has joined #openttd 12:19:07 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:24:14 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x5ce48edf.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 12:36:58 <Samu> damn it 12:37:07 <Samu> now that i want aiai to crash, it isn't crashing 12:37:25 <Samu> or teshinet 12:42:08 <Samu> interesting, there aren't many ais that crash, after all these tests 12:44:10 <Samu> crashing ais over the last 2 months tests: AIAI, BorkAI, rocketAI, TeshiNet, TracAI 12:44:18 <Samu> only 5 12:44:42 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:44:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:45:53 <Samu> oh, i forgot to count the autosaving crashers 12:46:04 <Samu> NoCAB, SimpleAI, Trans 12:46:21 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:59 <Samu> 8 crashing ais 12:48:15 <Samu> heh, never thought I'd be actually needing them for this test 12:53:51 <Alberth> you never get what you need :p 12:58:42 <Samu> well, if i don't notice them crashing, then I suppose I did a good job, too 12:59:02 <Alberth> true :) 12:59:18 <Alberth> they got so scared, that they resist crashing :) 12:59:44 <Samu> i know that rocketai gets to a point when it crashes immediately upon several restarts 12:59:58 <Samu> but i wanted to know about the other ais 13:00:21 <Alberth> you can try to use an older version 13:01:47 <Alberth> but my guess is that is one of the two likely outcomes. Either it crashes immediately, or it restarts and runs normally again 13:35:32 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 13:43:03 <Samu> tracai crashed and restarted, hmm I'd like to have a way to know if an AI had crashed 13:43:35 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:44:54 <Samu> it's nice in a way that it is behaving as transparent as possible, but still, I don't quite like that it's not possible to know which ones have crashed 13:45:21 <Samu> and when 13:45:45 <Samu> hmm, i'd like to have it print a message on the console perhaps 13:45:49 <Samu> how do i do it 13:50:34 <Samu> debuglevel 9 isn't working? 13:54:05 <Alberth> debuglevel will throw pages and pages of output 13:54:17 <Alberth> *debuglevel 9 13:54:32 <Alberth> maybe your windows doesn't know what a console is? 13:55:19 <Samu> a dos window? 13:55:26 <Samu> i thought about the in-game console 13:55:31 <Samu> gui console 13:55:51 <Alberth> nope, OS console 13:56:36 <Samu> ok, let me try 13:58:12 <Samu> D:\OpenTTD\Build\openttd.exe -d script=9 13:59:13 <Alberth> isn't that game script? (don't know mostly just guessing) 13:59:55 *** alask0ud [~Superdry^@181.169.232.64] has joined #openttd 14:01:26 *** umgeher [~umgeher@177.9.162.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:03:02 <Samu> it's script 14:03:15 <Alberth> ok 14:03:31 <Samu> hmm level 9 really prints everything 14:03:37 <Samu> gah, trying 0 14:03:46 <Alberth> yes, 3-4 is much saner :) 14:03:54 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 14:04:14 <Wolf01> Mmmh, T4 is a bit over my possibilities, but I'm getting excellence levels really fast, and I need to change the entire equip because I have many pieces <70 14:04:14 <Alberth> o/ 14:06:17 *** umgeher [~umgeher@201-1-164-22.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 14:06:42 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13:20 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:18:42 <Samu> waiting for a crash 14:18:44 <Samu> zzzz 14:42:01 *** umgeher [~umgeher@201-1-164-22.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:47:15 *** umgeher [~umgeher@191.193.92.222] has joined #openttd 14:47:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18BAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:09 <Samu> root_company and company, what is the difference? 15:11:07 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d08f4a0.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:11:22 <Samu> CompanyID root_company; ///< The root company, the company that the script really belongs to. CompanyID company; ///< The current company. 15:11:44 <Samu> uh, how can they belong to different companies anyway? 15:11:55 <Samu> which one do I use? 15:13:50 *** ElleKitty [~Elle@93-86-59-90.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:25:25 <Samu> :( 15:27:35 <Alberth> I have as much idea as you 15:27:46 <Alberth> ie none at all 15:41:06 <Samu> how do i convert a company byte to char 15:42:07 <Samu> char cid = (int)_current_company; ? 15:42:31 <Samu> nop 15:43:57 *** Antheus [Antheus@janus.theender.net] has quit [Quit: Are you ready kids?] 15:44:24 *** Antheus [Antheus@janus.theender.net] has joined #openttd 15:47:26 <Samu> Severity Code Description Project File Line Suppression State Error (active) no suitable conversion function from "CompanyByte" to "const char *" exists openttd d:\OpenTTD\trunk\src\script\script_instance.cpp 155 :( 15:47:56 <Samu> how to convert companybyte to char thing? 15:55:10 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 16:03:11 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:09:14 <Alberth> not, mostly 16:10:12 <Alberth> const char * indicates a string of some kind, while CompanyByte is a number 16:12:10 <Samu> DEBUG(script, 0, "[%s] The script died unexpectedly and was restarted.", ScriptObject::GetCompany()); - will it work? 16:12:29 <Samu> Exception thrown: read access violation. 16:12:30 <Samu> nop 16:39:42 *** DDR [~David@S0106f0f249839863.vn.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40:06 *** supermop_ [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:28 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46.239.220.130] has joined #openttd 16:46:34 *** supermop__ [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:15 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-91-250-188.netvisao.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:55:20 *** DDR [~David@S0106f0f249839863.vn.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 16:57:44 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-91-250-188.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 17:01:35 <Samu> how do i print to in-game console? :( 17:04:18 <Samu> oh, the dummyai 17:04:29 <Samu> i hope it's not restarting the dummyai, must test that 17:09:45 <Samu> nice, it's not restarting DummyAI 17:10:08 <Samu> but it isn't showing the error message as well 17:10:17 <Samu> maybe it should? 17:19:07 *** ElleKitty [~Elle@93-86-59-90.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #openttd 17:30:40 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-176-199-6-90.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 17:36:39 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 17:46:42 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:46:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:51:34 *** supermop__ [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:57:07 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:57:44 *** supermop_ [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:06:09 <argoneus> good evening train friends 18:21:07 <Samu> hi 18:28:13 <Samu> :( 18:29:40 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x5ce48edf.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 18:32:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18BAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:40:47 <Samu> while it's true that the dummyai doesn't restart, it outputs "The script died unexpectedly and was restarted." message 18:41:05 <Samu> and was restarted isn't true, how do i detect the DummyAI? 18:41:41 <Samu> I'm trying to get his name 18:41:45 <Samu> but i fail 18:42:35 <Samu> if (_settings_game.ai.ai_restart_dead && _current_company != OWNER_DEITY) { DEBUG(script, 0, "The script died unexpectedly and was restarted."); } else { DEBUG(script, 0, "The script died unexpectedly."); } 18:43:21 <Samu> help me get the name for dummyai 18:46:42 <Samu> or else i'll just leave it as DEBUG(script, 0, "The script died unexpectedly."); 18:46:53 <Samu> it's not entirelly wrong, just less informative 19:06:26 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:12:57 *** srhnsn [~srhnsn@p2003006A6C089D008C6D8822536F7B65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:26:43 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-137-142.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:32:39 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 20:00:56 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:05:49 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-176-199-6-90.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:16:25 <Samu> meanwhile, AdmiralAI aircraft testing still goes on 20:16:29 <Samu> year 2044 20:17:09 <Samu> needs 2 more days 20:17:23 <Samu> to reach 2051 20:27:05 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:22 <andythenorth_> Ship capacities tax my brain :p 20:38:07 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42:09 *** umgeher_ [~umgeher@187.11.56.27] has joined #openttd 20:44:35 *** umgeher_ is now known as umgher 20:45:05 *** umgeher is now known as Guest525 20:45:06 *** umgher is now known as umgeher 20:45:36 *** Guest525 [~umgeher@191.193.92.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:51 *** st6 [st@seri.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:59:58 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 21:02:10 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 21:02:47 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@155.red-81-43-101.staticip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:23 *** umgeher_ [~umgeher@201-69-142-219.dial-up.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 21:13:11 *** umgeher [~umgeher@187.11.56.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:13:26 *** umgeher_ is now known as umgeher 21:16:44 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36:39 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:36:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 21:42:36 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:47:51 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:45 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 22:01:56 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 22:07:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:07:49 *** supermop_ [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 22:08:43 <Samu> AdmiralAI, 2045 22:09:09 <Samu> takes 2 hours to advance a year? maybe 3? 22:09:56 <Samu> needs about 15 more hours to reach 2051 22:10:43 <Samu> i dont usually leave my system on for 15 hours a day, :/ this is taking so much time, but I think the results AdmiralAI is pulling will impress 22:12:50 <Samu> Wormnest: 22:13:02 <Samu> still there? 22:13:12 <Samu> i'm talking alone :( 22:14:01 *** supermop__ [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:09 <Wormnest> Samu: IÂŽm here but going to bed soon :p 22:14:37 <Samu> thx god for hibernation 22:14:56 <Samu> it wouldn't be possible to see the end results without it 22:15:51 <Wormnest> Well seeing how well aiÂŽs handle loading savegames can be a point to test too 22:16:46 <Samu> wormai aircraft testing will take first place on best aircraft income and average per aircraft. I'm so eager to post the results already :) 22:17:26 <Wormnest> ThatÂŽs good news to hear :) 22:17:38 <Samu> he is beaten on the other metrics 22:18:47 <Samu> on the topic of company value, Terron beats him 22:19:10 <Samu> SimpleAI beats him 22:19:27 <Samu> NoCAB and NoNoCAB too 22:20:25 <Samu> SimpleAI as the name implies, is so wrong, it's quite a good performer on every transport kind 22:20:34 <Wormnest> At least thereÂŽs something to improve then for WormAI 22:21:06 <Wormnest> I agree itÂŽs really a very good allround ai 22:22:58 <Samu> terron usually shows a good average per aircraft 22:23:29 <Samu> but with aircraft, it kinda failed at it 22:23:47 <Samu> well, it's still good, but not 1st place, he's gonna take 4th place if AdmiralAI doesn't change that 22:24:37 <Wormnest> It usually starts very well but when it reaches max it kinda slows down 22:25:12 <Samu> erm i made a typo, terron usually shows a good average per *vehicle 22:25:18 <Samu> that's what i meant to say 22:26:24 <Samu> chopper script got stuck in the 1980s, didn't crash, however, i'm sure it would do much more if it hadn't happened 22:26:32 <Samu> t.t 22:26:50 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:27:52 <Samu> there's wrightai and rythorn airline ai, they got similar behaviours 22:28:33 <Wormnest> Well no surprise there since rythorn is wrightai with some enhancementsd 22:29:00 <Samu> rythorn however didn't have a great start, only later in the game he was becoming strong, besting wrightai in yearly profits, but it wasn't enough to beat it in company value 22:29:13 <Samu> oh, i see 22:30:18 <Samu> I think only admiralai used the behemothically sized airports 22:30:23 <Wormnest> Even WormAI is based on WrightAI but my changes go much deeper 22:30:51 *** supermop__ [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 22:31:36 <Wormnest> BIgger is not always better ;) 22:32:08 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 22:32:09 <Samu> wormai is interesting 22:32:36 <Samu> he is the aircraft ai with the 2nd least number of aircraft 22:32:49 <Samu> but what he have, really profits 22:32:58 <Samu> leaves all others in the dust 22:33:32 <Wormnest> oh so he didnÂŽt reach the max limit of airplanes 22:33:44 <Samu> yeah t.t 22:33:53 <Samu> only NoCAB reached it 22:34:11 <Wolf01> 'night 22:34:11 <Samu> NoNoCAB didn't go past 1700 22:34:14 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:34:25 <Samu> NoCAB got to 5000 once, then backed down to 4991 as final result 22:34:52 <Wormnest> well room for airports is limited maybe thatÂŽs the problem 22:35:17 <Wormnest> especially since WormAI only does passenger air transport 22:35:47 <Samu> 351/ 352 22:35:51 <Samu> for WormAI 22:35:56 *** supermop_ [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:29 <Samu> served airports are 97/102 22:37:13 <Samu> it's a good ratio, but there are ais with 100% 22:37:37 <Samu> dictatorai got 574/ 574 aircraft 22:37:38 <Wormnest> That seems a pretty low amount of airplanes 22:37:58 <Wormnest> and it should delete all unused airports 22:38:02 <Samu> SynTrans got 347/ 347 served airports 22:38:39 <Samu> bah, i'm gonna paste results 22:38:44 <Samu> can't tease anymore 22:39:09 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/px3iqc86n 22:39:33 <Samu> waiting only for AdmiralAI to reach 2051 to create a topic 22:43:09 <Samu> so, what do you think? any surprises? 22:43:17 <Samu> were those results expected? 22:43:24 <Wormnest> Nice results though still a little disappointing that WormAI didnÂŽt manage to get more airplanes 22:44:05 <Samu> map size was 1024x1024, i made the terrain quite flat 22:44:12 <Wormnest> Also depends a lot on settings probably 22:44:21 <Samu> shouldn't be too hard to place airports 22:44:27 <Samu> there wasn't much water 22:45:23 <Wormnest> still you need a town of reasonable size if you only do passengers 22:46:19 <Samu> what about nocab vs nonocab? 22:46:29 <Samu> it kinda surprised me in a way 22:46:33 <Wormnest> for the rest not too many surprises except maybe that tracai doesnÂŽt have more airplanes 22:46:58 <Samu> tracai got too many airports doing nothing 22:47:21 <Wormnest> I think nonocab doesnÂŽt send unlimited airplanes on a route if it knows it canÂŽt handle more 22:47:38 <Wormnest> nocab I think keeps adding planes 22:48:08 <Wormnest> but maybe nonocabs limits of what can be handled need to be tweaked 22:48:26 <Samu> nocab did end better 22:48:49 <Samu> better company value, better year profit, usually important for a greedy ai 22:49:14 <Samu> but maybe the settings were too easy 22:50:16 <Wormnest> Would be nice too see what happened with a lower max limit of planes that most aiÂŽs could reach 22:50:40 <Samu> 44? 22:50:44 <Samu> heh 22:52:06 <Wormnest> well probably more than that maybe 500 22:53:04 <Wormnest> anyway going to bed goodnight 22:53:10 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59:59 *** srhnsn [~srhnsn@p2003006A6C089D008C6D8822536F7B65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: srhnsn] 23:08:41 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:01 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18BAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26:55 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 23:27:14 <drac_boy> hi 23:33:54 <drac_boy> anyone coding lately? :) heh 23:38:04 <Samu> oh, pathzilla also taking too long to save crashes 23:38:18 <Samu> must test! 23:38:44 <Eddi|zuHause> coding is for nerds 23:39:36 <drac_boy> so most in here are nerds by your definition then :P 23:40:01 <Eddi|zuHause> what a brilliant observation of you. you must be a nerd. 23:40:43 * drac_boy whacks eddi with a simple thing called a telescope? ;) 23:40:47 <drac_boy> hehe 23:42:32 <Samu> I coded this yesterday https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&p=1175356#p1175356 but i think nobody cares 23:43:07 <drac_boy> even if I did, couldn't use it sorry. sounds like nice work tho :) 23:51:43 <Samu> there's something that I wanted to do, about bankrupting 23:52:53 <Samu> some ais work very intensively and even have huge profits, but they suffer from "bankrupt warning" system 23:53:35 <Samu> i've seen ais with over 4000 vehicles bankrupting just because they work within the bank accounting limits 23:54:05 <Samu> I'd like to change something about openttd and its bankrupt detection 23:54:19 <Samu> but don't know exactly how i'm doing it