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Usually is that 11:54:40 <argoneus> Wolf01: I reformatted 11:54:44 <argoneus> and installed incl. the latest updates 11:54:46 <argoneus> now it works 11:54:46 <Wolf01> Lol 11:54:53 <argoneus> it was a 2 week old install 11:54:54 <argoneus> literally who cares 11:55:48 <Flygon> Everyone angered by the thought of Win10 existing? :P 11:55:51 <Flygon> srsly tho, I getcha 11:58:06 <Wolf01> I had more problems with ubuntu than with windows 12:05:29 <argoneus> okay cool 12:05:31 <argoneus> I reformatted 12:05:32 <argoneus> all works now 12:05:41 <argoneus> faster than trying to fix the update 12:06:53 <Wolf01> I would like to reformat too, but I think I'll wait to change again the motherboard 12:16:01 <Wolf01> Also I don't want to download again 9001GB of visual studio, emulators, plugins etc 12:16:38 *** Kurimus has joined #openttd 12:18:47 <argoneus> heh 12:22:06 *** Kurimus_ has quit IRC 12:25:22 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 12:35:13 *** Snail has joined #openttd 12:54:22 <peter1138> moo 12:56:56 *** Snail has quit IRC 12:57:01 *** Lejving has quit IRC 13:00:16 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 13:06:47 <argoneus> well 13:06:52 <argoneus> Wolf01: at least I can do this now 13:06:54 <argoneus> http://i.imgur.com/VcMMITW.png 13:07:51 <Wolf01> Yeah, I use it sometimes, for git 13:08:20 <Wolf01> GitForWindows is somewhat... broken 13:15:21 *** Kurimus_ has joined #openttd 13:16:46 *** supermop has joined #openttd 13:20:16 *** Kurimus has quit IRC 13:20:31 <peter1138> ayy 13:21:41 <supermop> yo peter1138 13:35:17 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 13:53:08 *** Samu has joined #openttd 13:53:25 <Samu> hi 14:06:23 <Samu> i created an exe to try running it on my older system, but I'm getting an error. I can't launch it. https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1177235#p1177235 14:07:34 <Samu> i launch it, and windows error reporting pops up immediately 14:07:50 <Samu> i wasn't getting this problem on my main system 14:10:30 <Samu> i dont have access to my main rig now 14:12:29 <Samu> i wonder, does vs140 builds requires SSE2 processors? 14:12:38 <Samu> cus this one doesn't have it 14:17:39 <Samu> anyone here? 14:19:36 <Samu> does anyone have windows OS here? 14:20:06 <Wolf01> Nope, nobody 14:20:22 <Samu> really :) 14:20:54 <Samu> does it run for you? 14:20:59 <Samu> can you try it? 14:22:39 <Wolf01> If it does not run on older systems but in new ones it does, I can't test it as I don't have an older system 14:23:29 <Samu> but why? 14:24:02 <Samu> the .exes from openttd.org can execute 14:24:23 <Samu> this one, made with visual studio, can't 14:24:40 <Wolf01> Does the older system run XP? 14:24:48 <Samu> this is windows 7 14:24:52 <Samu> 32 bit 14:25:00 <Wolf01> Did you compile for x64? 14:25:02 <Samu> cpu is Athlon XP 2700+ 14:25:07 <Samu> no i compile for 32-bit 14:27:32 <Wolf01> Maybe it used some windows 10 libraries 14:29:57 *** keoz has joined #openttd 14:30:20 <Samu> what can i do now? 14:31:54 <Wolf01> I don't know, I usually don't care to make exes for other people as I only compile for myself 14:32:08 <Samu> how do i find out if an .exe require certain cpu instructions? 14:32:18 <Wolf01> And I usually run what I compiled on the same pc 14:32:21 <Samu> i suspect it's sse2 14:35:13 <Wolf01> Are you using VS2015? 14:37:29 <Wolf01> Do you still have VS2012/2013? VS2015 uses different "ottd-useful" which might not work on older systems, but I'm not sure, as Win7 is not so old 14:38:52 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 14:38:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 14:39:26 <Wolf01> o/ 14:39:56 *** keoz has quit IRC 14:40:24 <Alberth> hi hi 14:40:51 <Samu> yes i use VS2015 14:41:10 <Samu> and used openttd_vs140.vcxproj 14:41:49 <Samu> about ottd-useful, i really dont know 14:43:45 <Samu> windows 7 isn't old, but the cpu is 14:44:10 <Samu> this is a .. 2003/2004 cpu I think 14:53:02 <Samu> oh, older actually 14:53:10 <Samu> Oct 2001 15:05:12 *** keoz has joined #openttd 15:42:36 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 15:48:12 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 16:11:22 *** Samu has quit IRC 16:15:55 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:24:13 *** Gja has joined #openttd 16:38:53 <Wolf01> Uhm... I found a problem with UK railway set... On a coop game my friend was able to start trains without cabeese, I can't restart the same train if I send it to a depot 16:39:51 <Wolf01> But I don't think it's really a newgrf problem, I think it's more a missed check for the newgrf property in networking code 16:41:28 <Alberth> :O 16:57:34 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 16:58:27 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:58:32 <Wolf01> o/ 16:58:52 <andythenorth> Alberth supermop I am leaving work, resume the NCG game in a couple of hours? 16:59:01 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:59:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:01:29 <Alberth> probably 17:04:10 <supermop> could work i have to run get something right now 17:04:28 <andythenorth> I will go home, put kids to bed etc 17:05:12 <Wolf01> At 7PM? Like "gtfo I want to play"? 17:05:25 <andythenorth> probably 17:05:27 <andythenorth> but that won’t work 17:06:31 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:08:50 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:11:55 <Alberth> hi hi 17:12:46 <Alberth> hmm, ship stuck at a sandbank :p 17:14:03 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/not_moving.png 17:14:09 <Alberth> no idea why this happens 17:14:37 <Alberth> 100% loaded, and not jumping to the next order 17:16:21 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd 17:23:40 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:47:22 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:47:32 <Alberth> o/ 17:47:38 <Wolf01> o/ 17:48:32 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:49:32 <andythenorth> o/ 17:55:07 <andythenorth> is cat 18:01:09 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: timetable? 18:01:51 <Alberth> good point, let me check 18:03:06 <Alberth> indeed 18:04:03 <Alberth> why do we use time tables in a NCG game? :p 18:04:27 <andythenorth> we do? :o 18:05:01 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/not_moving.png 18:05:32 <andythenorth> it waits? o_O 18:05:42 <Alberth> yep, 185 days 18:05:47 <andythenorth> so it does 18:05:51 <andythenorth> ask supermop what that’s about :) 18:05:56 <andythenorth> or is it autofill by mistake? 18:06:09 *** keoz has quit IRC 18:06:10 <Wolf01> Somebody started the ship with CTRL? 18:06:47 <Wolf01> It's easy to keep the CTRL pressed for mistake, it's used for everything 18:06:50 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a feature? 18:06:58 <Eddi|zuHause> never heard about it 18:08:05 <Alberth> 'clear time' doesn't help either, but that looks like a bug in openttd 18:08:45 <Alberth> Wolf01: so how exactly does that work, just stop/start, or from a depot or .. ? 18:09:05 <Wolf01> I remember something related to delayed start 18:09:22 <Wolf01> But the timetable need to be filled first 18:11:18 <Wolf01> Ctrl click just scrolls to destination 18:11:21 <andythenorth> timetables :P 18:11:31 * andythenorth has a view 18:11:34 <andythenorth> it’s not positive 18:11:57 <Eddi|zuHause> timetables are great, but need more macromanagement features 18:12:06 <Alberth> yeah, ctrl+click bar of the vehicle window doesn't work 18:12:36 <Alberth> not to mention being smarter about starting 18:12:56 <Alberth> useless that a vehicle must first go back to the first order 18:13:01 <Eddi|zuHause> mabe it's ctrl+click on the flag in the depot? 18:13:29 <Wolf01> Or maybe just timetabled for mistake 18:13:32 <Alberth> it knows the schedule, it can compute the time of the arrival at the first station it enters :p 18:13:39 <Wolf01> With full load orders 18:13:44 <Wolf01> And low production 18:14:08 <Wolf01> So when the production increased the ship had to wait too much win 100% load 18:14:13 <Wolf01> *with 18:14:15 <Alberth> no, ctrl+click depot "go" button doesn't do time table either 18:14:37 <Eddi|zuHause> then it's probably not a feature :p 18:15:08 <Alberth> sabotage! :p 18:16:22 <Wolf01> The timetable starts as soon as you open the timetable window, maybe it's always active but not effective if you don't open the timetable 18:16:51 <Wolf01> I just started some vehicles to see their behaviours 18:17:26 <Wolf01> One with just orders, one with autofill timetable, one with orders and only opened the timetable window to check details 18:17:32 <Eddi|zuHause> no, that's just a recording of the previous travel times 18:17:38 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not a "timetable" 18:17:43 <Eddi|zuHause> unless you autofill it 18:17:47 <Eddi|zuHause> or manually set it 18:18:10 <Wolf01> Maybe somebody clicked autofill for mistake, or it does even have a hotkey? 18:18:36 <Alberth> not afaik, perhaps you can add one yourself 18:18:42 <Wolf01> Chatting with some open windows and forgetting to press enter is a bad thing 18:19:53 <Wolf01> Btw, with shared orders all the times are shared as well with vehicles 18:20:08 <Wolf01> Even without autofill 18:20:10 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 18:20:20 <Eddi|zuHause> just the start time is different 18:20:43 <Eddi|zuHause> everything else is shared 18:25:22 <Wolf01> Then it's just a mistake 18:30:35 * andythenorth could rejoin the MP game in ~30 mins 18:30:38 <andythenorth> just doing chores 18:47:05 <supermop> Alberth: i timetabled all those ships 18:47:16 <Wolf01> You monster 18:47:33 <Alberth> but we want to window goal! 18:47:38 <Alberth> *win 18:47:56 <supermop> fishing grounds dont jump that high in production 18:48:23 <supermop> if you timetable the capacity off the ships to provide capacity about 120% of production works fine 18:49:10 <supermop> if thats the reefer off to the side with a full load order then i didn't finish timetabling that route 18:49:32 <supermop> but the ones that head far out to the north east should be fine 18:49:44 <andythenorth> shall we restart? 18:49:49 <andythenorth> #openttdcoop.pro 18:49:57 <Alberth> +1 18:50:02 <andythenorth> frosch123 ^ MP game o_O 18:50:08 <andythenorth> Wolf01 joining in? 18:50:17 <andythenorth> supermop ^ 18:50:20 <Wolf01> Yeah, I'll give a try 18:50:28 <Alberth> \o/ 18:50:44 <supermop> ok i wont be super active but ill do a bit 18:51:20 <supermop> 161 or nightly? 19:14:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 19:18:29 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:19:20 *** Lejving has quit IRC 19:19:41 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 19:19:54 *** Kurimus has joined #openttd 19:23:54 *** D-HUND is now known as debdog 19:24:42 *** Kurimus_ has quit IRC 19:26:06 *** Kurimus_ has joined #openttd 19:26:56 *** Kurimus_ has quit IRC 19:29:56 *** Kurimus has quit IRC 19:53:07 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:00:13 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:04:02 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:21:53 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:56:00 *** tycoondemon2 has quit IRC 21:18:51 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 21:30:33 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:33:36 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:00:42 *** seatsea_ has quit IRC 22:06:46 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:17:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:19:57 *** Gja has quit IRC 22:35:31 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:49:08 *** Wolf03 has joined #openttd 22:49:08 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest566 22:49:09 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 22:50:06 <Wolf01> 'night 22:50:15 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:54:37 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 22:55:09 *** Guest566 has quit IRC 23:31:49 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:38:22 *** funkyL has quit IRC