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Tourism? 10:04:54 <Alberth> you'll have to wait until andy returns :) 10:05:25 <Alberth> which normally happens several times during the day 10:15:42 *** BluesInTheNet has quit IRC 10:16:05 *** BluesInTheNet has joined #openttd 10:16:39 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 10:16:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 10:20:37 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/azrmOdx_460sv.mp4 <- found andy 10:21:50 <Alberth> :D 10:22:49 <Eddi|zuHause> so that's why he asks about cats here all the time 10:23:32 *** tokai has quit IRC 10:27:02 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 10:28:22 *** BluesInTheNet has quit IRC 10:28:31 <Alberth> my thought exactly :) 10:33:30 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 10:33:40 <V453000> also why he gets so much shit done 10:33:47 <V453000> he has cat slaves 10:33:55 <V453000> so when he asks for them it's because some of them isn't doing their job 10:45:08 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 10:51:15 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 10:58:44 <Alberth> o/ 10:58:54 <Wolf01> o/ 11:01:45 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/azrmOdx_460sv.mp4 <- andythenorth, please 11:07:16 <andythenorth> iz me 11:07:46 <goodger> aww 11:07:59 <Alberth> :) 11:08:53 *** Sova has quit IRC 11:35:54 <Wolf01> I need to do a SHIP of SNOT parts in black and LBG :| I can't do my 3 new dioramas without them 11:36:12 *** bwn has quit IRC 11:38:49 *** bwn has joined #openttd 11:41:03 *** Sova has joined #openttd 11:45:34 <Eddi|zuHause> what exactly is a "snot" part? 11:48:00 <Wolf01> One with studs other than top 11:48:30 <Wolf01> SNOT mean stud-not-on-top 11:50:42 <Wolf01> Also SHIP mean seriously huge investment on parts XD 12:28:53 <peter1138> heh 12:29:21 <peter1138> dunno why, we used to call them "flatners" 12:29:54 <peter1138> (or maybe flatteners, it was never written) 12:31:02 <peter1138> though i guess SNOT is a build technique rather than a part 12:31:06 <andythenorth> it is 12:34:54 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 12:35:06 <Wolf01> SNOT is both a build technique and a kind of parts 12:35:45 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 12:35:46 <Wolf01> Meh, I just read "Forbidden LEGO", the slogan of the book is "don't follow the instructions of this book" 12:36:20 <Wolf01> Cut, glued pieces, non-lego parts, painted parts 12:36:59 <andythenorth> lego + glue gun + hacksaw 12:37:12 * andythenorth has done it 12:37:30 <Wolf01> Shame on you :D 12:37:55 <andythenorth> if you want to use it as a mechanical component in other things... 12:37:58 <andythenorth> there’s no choice 12:38:28 <andythenorth> e.g. for my physics exam I built a wing-testing wind tunnel, with lego to adjust the pitch of the wing 12:39:55 <Wolf01> I wouldn't have used lego :P 12:41:07 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 12:42:47 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 12:44:21 <andythenorth> meccano sucks :) 12:44:23 <andythenorth> I tried it 12:45:47 <Wolf01> The new ones even more, all appearance and no functionality 12:46:27 <peter1138> is it plastic yet? 12:46:37 <Wolf01> 50% yes 12:46:55 <peter1138> it was mostly metal in my day, with some plastic for cosmetics 12:47:02 <peter1138> oh, also plastic cogs but not always 12:47:45 <andythenorth> the metal could be bent at least 12:48:00 <andythenorth> the gears used to need grub screws, tedious 12:48:04 <Wolf01> http://www.meccano.com/products 12:48:13 <andythenorth> unless you lock them to the axle with superglue 12:48:43 <Wolf01> BTW, there is plenty of cogs and girders for robotics you can use for projects without using building toys :) 12:48:58 <andythenorth> dunno why, but meccano never appealed to me 12:49:06 <andythenorth> even though I had loads of this when I was small http://www.elc.co.uk/construction-toys-and-kits/build-it-construction-starter-set-/115621.html 13:02:04 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 13:02:26 *** roidal_ has joined #openttd 13:09:18 *** roidal has quit IRC 13:23:45 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:24:32 *** Lokimaros has quit IRC 13:33:41 *** Lokimaros has joined #openttd 13:40:39 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 13:56:05 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 13:58:37 *** Sova has quit IRC 13:59:38 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 13:59:50 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 14:19:15 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:20:30 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 14:20:42 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 14:26:21 <goodger> ELC :O 14:26:30 <goodger> I used to go in there and play with the trains 14:49:16 <supermop> we had brass gears over here 14:51:02 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 14:53:06 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:56:41 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 15:13:25 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 15:25:33 *** Gaby_ has joined #openttd 15:30:14 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:47:40 *** BluesInTheNet has joined #openttd 15:56:50 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 16:05:02 *** Cals has quit IRC 16:25:12 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:28:28 *** Cals has joined #openttd 16:43:24 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 16:43:35 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 16:50:07 *** markjones has joined #openttd 16:55:47 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:03:35 *** markjones has quit IRC 17:03:46 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 17:05:46 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:05:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:08:48 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:20:59 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:23:59 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:24:11 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 17:46:54 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd 18:01:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:02:45 <andythenorth> so gold or nickel? 18:02:56 <andythenorth> in theory, nickel at least gives a visible cargo 18:03:05 <andythenorth> although it’s just small grey ingots 18:03:48 <Alberth> nickel seems a nice change of the usual cargoes 18:04:08 <Alberth> you can transport gold ore :) 18:04:12 *** Myhorta has quit IRC 18:04:25 <Alberth> it's not very valuable :) 18:05:29 <Alberth> and get rocks for nearby concrete plant 18:08:09 <supermop> i like nickle 18:08:22 <supermop> don't give the gold bugs any encouragement 18:09:12 <supermop> whats next, palladium? irridium? osmium? 18:11:39 <andythenorth> phosphoric acid? 18:11:42 <andythenorth> chromium? 18:21:29 <andythenorth> explosives: “BOOM” or “BANG”? 18:21:32 <andythenorth> for label 18:26:08 <supermop> boom 18:26:26 <supermop> boom is explosion bang is gunfire 18:26:51 <andythenorth> good 18:27:19 <supermop> although whenever they blast for construction in NYC it sounds more like 'rumble' 18:27:52 <supermop> as it's typically small amounts under a lot of rock from where i am standing 18:28:21 *** Belugas has joined #openttd 18:28:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Belugas 18:29:07 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 18:31:17 <andythenorth> file:///Users/andy/Documents/OTTD_graphics/FIRS/firs_build/docs/html/economies.html#arctic_basic 18:33:00 <andythenorth> yeah that’ll work :P 18:34:24 <andythenorth> @seen kyosuke 18:34:24 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: I have not seen kyosuke. 18:34:31 <andythenorth> @seen Kyosuke 18:34:31 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: I have not seen Kyosuke. 18:34:32 <andythenorth> nvm 18:46:03 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:46:15 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 18:46:16 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd 18:47:48 *** Myhorta has quit IRC 18:49:35 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#arctic_basic 18:49:41 <andythenorth> supplies are a bit weird 18:49:58 <andythenorth> both fertiliser & explosives go to supply yard 18:50:15 <andythenorth> and ‘goods’ which is furniture here 18:50:22 <andythenorth> lot of chairs needed in the mines :( 18:57:25 *** bwn has quit IRC 18:59:52 <andythenorth> err 19:00:00 <andythenorth> could produce FMSP directly instead of fertiliser 19:00:05 <andythenorth> that frees up a cargo too 19:00:44 <supermop> what about husqavarna chainsaws 19:01:02 * andythenorth has been considering ‘machinery' 19:01:08 <andythenorth> ach, FMSP also goes to forests 19:01:10 <andythenorth> I forgot that 19:01:20 <andythenorth> balls 19:01:56 <supermop> "chainsaw, snowmobile, and sewing machine factory" 19:02:02 <andythenorth> needs metal and stuff :) 19:02:04 <andythenorth> not just nickel 19:02:10 <andythenorth> I removed all metal production 19:02:20 <andythenorth> let’s assume this is some remote forest + fjord economy 19:02:25 <supermop> nah they import all that stuff 19:02:50 <supermop> parts-> chainsaws 19:03:22 <supermop> ok new port: Chainsaw and snowmobile dealership 19:03:55 <supermop> forest -> modern furniture 19:04:14 <andythenorth> ha ha 19:04:26 <andythenorth> I think the cargo flow _looks_ about right 19:04:33 <supermop> minnesota economy? 19:04:44 <andythenorth> graphviz layout is a strange beast, so it shouldn’t be taken as too much guide 19:04:56 <andythenorth> but I reckon a good basic economy makes a pleasing graph 19:06:19 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:06:31 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 19:07:15 <supermop> hmm i wonder, if in a smaller focused economy if you can separate out fmsp into fertilizer and equipment 19:07:39 <supermop> didn't early FIRS have forest take ensp? 19:09:31 <supermop> i have to laugh thinking of lumberjacks spreading fertilizers all over a forest 19:11:12 <supermop> "2009 - Demolition robot Husqvarna launch its first remote-controlled demolition robot." 19:20:13 <supermop> ok now i feel like buying a fancy new sewing machine 19:22:47 <andythenorth> on regrowth forest, they do fertilise it I think :P 19:23:00 <andythenorth> many years ago, I looked into it 19:35:50 <supermop> seems like there would be a much longer lead time that 3 months between fertilizer and trees to cut down 19:36:01 <andythenorth> yair 19:36:18 <andythenorth> the thing with supplies…don’t look too closely :P 19:36:20 <andythenorth> :) 19:37:38 <supermop> so imagine that the lime kiln is making chainsaws on the side 19:41:05 *** keoz has quit IRC 19:44:56 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:04:15 <supermop> andythenorth: would you use a ogfx+ station set? 20:04:21 <andythenorth> hmm 20:04:27 <andythenorth> what’s in it? 20:04:28 <supermop> sort of a chips for passengers 20:05:01 <supermop> idk im just looking at the sprites wondering how much i can get by just kitbashing stuff from baseset 20:05:58 <supermop> single sided platform on baseset pavement + roof 20:06:33 <supermop> platform with bus stop shelter, or truck stop shelter for goods 20:07:24 <andythenorth> I just use the defaults 20:07:33 <supermop> rail platforms with monorail roofs 20:07:37 <supermop> yeah 20:07:41 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 20:07:53 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 20:07:59 <supermop> japanese platforms too fiddly waste too much time setting them up 20:08:09 <supermop> but i want a bit more nuance 20:08:45 <supermop> so every hamlet doesn't get a grand victorian terminal trainshed 20:09:17 <supermop> dudes waiting would be nice too 20:10:40 <supermop> carts of mail sack 20:13:36 <supermop> about 1-2 times a year i get the urge to try to make a slightly richer but still generic station set 20:20:37 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:22:12 <supermop> hmm the big sprite sheet on the dev zone has a different little station house than the station in my game 20:23:29 <supermop> ah danmack drew revised houses later 20:27:19 <supermop> i wonder what the maglev roof is made out of 20:27:30 <supermop> steel, aluminum? 20:28:23 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 20:28:34 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 20:29:47 *** bwn has joined #openttd 20:50:00 <andythenorth> nickel 20:50:02 *** Arveen has quit IRC 20:56:25 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 20:57:46 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 21:06:58 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:07:05 <BluesInTheNet> I've been here for 2 days and I still don't get what you guys are actually talking about... 21:08:15 <Wolf01> Neither do I, and I've been here for 12 years 21:14:24 <V453000> you made me realize I am playing openttd for 9 years 21:14:25 <V453000> thanks 21:14:27 <V453000> ._. 21:14:35 <Wolf01> XD 21:14:35 <V453000> no just 8 21:14:45 <V453000> 's ok 21:25:09 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/arOVovV_460sv.mp4 I think... no, too much work for too little benefit 21:25:26 <andythenorth> V453000: same as me 21:29:54 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 21:30:05 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 21:34:12 <V453000> https://eu1.factorio.com/assets/img/blog/fff-165-train-3000.jpg 21:34:14 <V453000> is cat 21:35:00 <Wolf01> :D 21:35:21 <Wolf01> It looks a bit compressed vertically, but is really fantastic 21:35:47 <ST2> looks badass :P 21:36:27 <andythenorth> furniture cargo? 21:36:30 <andythenorth> or is daft? 21:36:50 <andythenorth> V453000: such cat 21:37:03 <andythenorth> will there be a film of factorio? 21:37:05 <andythenorth> :P 21:37:24 <V453000> hopefully not :D 21:37:28 <Wolf01> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FtuuqkWvb8 HAAHHAHA I died 21:39:38 <andythenorth> hmm 21:40:06 <andythenorth> more things like this in FIRS http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#pyrite_smelter 21:40:21 <supermop> RIP Wolf01...T_T 21:40:41 <andythenorth> eh, FIRS needs redone 21:40:44 <andythenorth> it makes no sense 21:41:32 <supermop> what chips tiles am i supposed to use with firs2 steelmill 21:41:38 <supermop> mud? cobble? 21:42:01 <supermop> steel mill itself has mud 21:42:24 <andythenorth> I would probly use cobble 21:42:45 <andythenorth> supermop: name some cargos made of wood (timber)? 21:46:14 <andythenorth> :o paracetamol comes from coal tar 21:46:23 <andythenorth> wikipedia eh 21:46:54 <Wolf01> What does not kill you... 21:50:23 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 21:50:35 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 22:05:01 <supermop> CREOSOTE 22:05:46 * andythenorth was researching it :P 22:05:53 <andythenorth> finland’s biggest export was tar 22:05:59 <andythenorth> but pine tar, not coal tar 22:06:05 <andythenorth> wrong kind 22:06:09 <andythenorth> I never knew 22:06:14 <andythenorth> tar is just black stuff to me 22:07:06 <andythenorth> eh http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#arctic_basic 22:07:16 <andythenorth> nearly done 22:07:23 * andythenorth must to seelp 22:07:39 <Wolf01> Me too 22:07:54 <supermop> CREOSOTE_>TRESTLES 22:07:59 <Wolf01> 'night 22:08:04 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:09:51 <andythenorth> salt? o_O 22:09:57 <andythenorth> salt + fish = food? 22:10:04 <andythenorth> bed 22:10:05 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:26:45 *** keoz has joined #openttd 22:29:57 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 22:29:58 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 22:33:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 23:02:02 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 23:04:43 *** keoz has quit IRC 23:23:20 *** Gja has quit IRC 23:48:51 *** Lejving has quit IRC 23:49:12 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 23:50:40 *** bwn has quit IRC