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We seem to have another Spam issue on the Forum Suggestions and Feed Back 07:59:16 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 08:14:57 *** NekoMaster has left #openttd 08:24:47 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 08:33:21 *** aard has joined #openttd 08:46:54 *** aard has quit IRC 08:55:09 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 09:06:38 <crem_> o/ 09:06:43 *** crem_ is now known as crem 09:26:45 *** adf88 has quit IRC 09:39:00 *** adf88 has joined #openttd 09:41:28 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 09:49:53 *** zeknurn has quit IRC 09:50:56 *** zeknurn has joined #openttd 10:11:57 *** matt11235 has joined #openttd 10:19:56 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 10:19:57 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 10:36:50 *** Jinassi has quit IRC 11:21:34 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 11:22:09 <Wolf01> o/ 11:22:23 <crem> \o 11:30:07 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 11:35:54 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 11:35:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 11:42:38 *** tokai has quit IRC 11:48:38 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 12:10:05 *** ektor has joined #openttd 14:14:28 <Wolf01> Nice wacom drivers messing up with everything known to humanity 14:26:26 <peter1138> woe and crapness, or mouse 14:33:36 <supermop_> yo 14:33:56 *** ektor has quit IRC 15:18:44 <Wolf01> Without drivers seem to work better 15:19:20 <Wolf01> The settings tool works, the pressure sensor works even better 15:19:54 <Wolf01> Other softwares now work again, before they even failed to start 15:25:31 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 15:25:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 15:25:38 <Wolf01> o/ 15:25:41 <Alberth> o/ 15:25:42 <supermop_> hi Alberth 15:26:07 <Alberth> extended super mop today :) 15:29:51 <supermop_> work computer is constantly gaining or losing tail 15:30:10 <Wolf01> Wut? 15:32:35 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a37mv2v_460sv.mp4 transport fever 15:33:40 <Wolf01> Too bad it is not really smooth like this... they stop continuously because fuck 15:35:05 <Eddi|zuHause> now, if you could find the original of that, without the blatant ripoff and sexist comment... 15:37:46 <Wolf01> Google can't help 15:38:48 <supermop_> maybe i'll finally code roads today 15:43:33 *** DDR has quit IRC 16:09:50 *** Snail has joined #openttd 17:12:13 *** adf88 has quit IRC 17:25:55 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:39:29 *** ZirconiumX has joined #openttd 17:49:03 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 17:51:25 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 17:56:35 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 18:01:03 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:01:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:09:19 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 18:31:27 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 18:37:10 <__ln__> Wolf01: so banning women from driving will result in the pedestrians' ability to pass through moving cars? as obviously happens at a few spots in the clip. 18:37:43 <Wolf01> Yes 18:37:54 <Wolf01> Because internet said so, not me 18:42:25 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:42:54 <andythenorth> o/ 18:43:42 <Wolf01> o/ 18:45:44 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27736 trunk/src/lang/italian.txt (2017-01-16 19:45:36 +0100 ) 18:45:45 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints: 18:45:46 <DorpsGek> italian: 1 change by lorenzodv 18:54:11 *** Wolf03 has joined #openttd 18:54:11 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest729 18:54:12 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 18:58:45 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 18:59:43 *** Guest729 has quit IRC 19:05:00 *** Jinassi has joined #openttd 19:08:00 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 19:14:09 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 19:21:16 <supermop_> yo andythenorth 19:23:19 <supermop_> ships adequately hyped? 19:25:46 <frosch123> hoi 19:27:02 <supermop_> yo frosch123 19:27:08 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 19:28:12 <supermop_> street trees adequately desired? 19:35:32 <frosch123> https://hg.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/files/039923baa4a21c0f26e75c5ec84264c5658a2a38/sprites/png/landscape/landscape031.png <- i can also just use one of those 19:35:39 <frosch123> or probably the hedges at the bottom 19:38:34 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 19:38:37 <supermop_> ooh 19:38:51 <supermop_> stone walls and hedges would look very english 19:39:26 <supermop_> palm trees for LA or hawaii 20:20:34 <andythenorth> anyone know how railtype<->vehicle compatibility works? :P 20:21:13 <frosch123> same as for roadtypes 20:22:09 <frosch123> railtypes use the same labels as tramtypes 20:22:17 <frosch123> so just imagine a tram track set 20:23:40 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 20:35:27 <andythenorth> I am trying to solve this guy’s problem https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1181661#p1181661 20:36:05 <andythenorth> RTT looks like http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/entry/src/templates/railtype_table.pynml 20:36:11 <andythenorth> I suspect I’m doing it wrong? 20:38:42 *** Arveen has quit IRC 20:38:44 <frosch123> compatibility is defined by the railtype grf 20:38:56 <frosch123> a vehicle only belongs to a single railtype by itself 20:39:16 <frosch123> if a vehicle can drive on multiple track types, it is always the railtype grf's fault 20:41:16 <andythenorth> I wonder if I’ve done the fallbacks wrong 20:41:33 <frosch123> only ELRL is shared 20:41:39 <frosch123> and it's the last type in the list 20:42:06 <frosch123> if nutracks defines neither MTRO nor 3RDR, well, what should a horse do? 20:43:07 <frosch123> ah, i guess nutracks provided 3RDR 20:43:14 <frosch123> normal rail is compatible to 3RDR 20:43:18 <frosch123> nothing wrong with that 20:43:35 <andythenorth> dunno, I went by this https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/RailtypeLabels 20:43:48 <andythenorth> NuTracks defines MTRO, allegedly 20:45:00 <andythenorth> ok, well I can reply in the thread, thanks :) 20:47:26 <frosch123> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nutracks/push/LATEST/nutracks.nml <- no MTRO there 20:49:12 <andythenorth> nope :) 20:49:51 <supermop_> metro as railtype is stupid 20:50:26 <supermop_> gauge of rail and type of traction are all you need 20:51:00 <supermop_> nothing explicitly makes subway tracks metro-y 20:51:54 <andythenorth> metro as railtype is…winningest 20:51:58 <andythenorth> :P 20:52:24 <frosch123> andythenorth: MTRO exists in revision 174 of nutracks 20:52:33 <andythenorth> so it got recoded? 20:52:36 * andythenorth assumes 20:52:36 <supermop_> i recall old nutracks debat about not allowing regular trains on metro or vis verse 20:52:37 <frosch123> apparently oberhuemer removed it 20:52:54 <frosch123> andythenorth: apparently there was a nfo->nml rewrite 20:53:30 <andythenorth> I for one applaud people who rip up compatibility :) 20:53:33 <andythenorth> ‘courage’ 20:54:22 <supermop_> its not up to the rail grf to enforce some kind of idea about propriety or balance of running metro trains on regular rail or regular trains on metro rail, unless you are going to make distinctions about loading gauge 20:54:46 <supermop_> and forbid NYC subways from running on the same track as tube trains 20:54:47 <andythenorth> the spec disagrees :) 20:55:06 <andythenorth> I had a brief flash of understanding about the spec over christmas 20:55:08 <andythenorth> it was all very clear 20:55:13 <andythenorth> but then I forgot 20:55:36 <supermop_> andythenorth: they should ship nutracks and 2cc trains as one grf if they want to enforce their ideas about metro 20:55:40 <supermop_> P 20:56:00 <andythenorth> oh I remember 20:56:06 <frosch123> https://wiki.openttd.org/images/1/14/Nrt_example2_dot.png <- just draw variations of that image 20:56:10 <supermop_> it would be a silly as some type of road that only very large trucks can drive on 20:56:12 <frosch123> until people stop asking 20:56:14 <supermop_> as 20:56:22 <andythenorth> the spec must be driven by the idea that you load multiple train grfs 20:56:37 <andythenorth> if that’s the ruling assumption, then the current spec is the only sensible approach 20:56:58 <andythenorth> as the train grfs can’t possibly co-operate, so compatibility must be delegated to the railtype grfs 20:57:03 <andythenorth> very logical 20:57:46 <andythenorth> I might be talking rubbish though 20:57:56 <supermop_> sounds all well and good 20:58:43 <supermop_> if set 1 and set 2 have slightly different ideas about what a 3rd rail train is, that distinction should be lost when you play with them together though 20:59:59 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:09:55 <frosch123> i think the idea was that railtype people are weirdos who add 15 types of speed limits, while other people still want to play with a trainset 21:13:10 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 21:13:15 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 21:20:43 *** Noy has joined #openttd 21:22:27 <Noy> hi there. I was wondering if there is someone here who could give me a bit of basic help with the Japanese train set gameplay wise. Rather do this through PM…. cuz I don’t want to ask nooby questions in public. 21:24:29 <andythenorth> I’ve spoilt the Sam game 21:24:37 <andythenorth> by posting actual evidence of a newgrf :P 21:26:06 <Lejving> Noy, just ask, I'm sure nobody will judge you 21:26:09 <frosch123> i thought you would discontinue it due to objective no 3 21:26:16 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 21:26:24 <andythenorth> I considered renaming it :P 21:26:29 <andythenorth> due to objective no. 3 21:26:45 <andythenorth> and calling anything ‘unsinkable’ is frowned on due to Titanic 21:27:21 <andythenorth> http://www.historyonthenet.com/titanic/unsinkable.htm 21:28:24 <Eddi|zuHause> hasn't stopped people from claiming "1000 year empires" and stuff 21:28:40 <andythenorth> “nobody really called the Titanic “unsinkable” until after the ship had sunk" 21:29:03 *** Striek has quit IRC 21:29:34 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 21:29:42 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: binary 21:29:53 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 21:31:41 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 21:34:54 * andythenorth bed 21:34:56 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:36:05 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:42:28 *** Snail has quit IRC 21:42:42 *** Snail has joined #openttd 21:43:16 *** Snail has quit IRC 21:43:25 *** Snail has joined #openttd 21:45:43 *** Alberth has left #openttd 22:02:47 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:04:57 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 22:05:34 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 22:14:31 *** Jinassi_ has joined #openttd 22:14:31 *** Jinassi is now known as Guest741 22:14:31 *** Guest741 is now known as Guest742 22:14:31 *** Jinassi_ is now known as Jinassi 22:16:55 *** Guest742 has quit IRC 22:23:15 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 22:24:24 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 22:31:05 *** Snail has joined #openttd 22:41:35 *** Jinassi_ has joined #openttd 22:41:35 *** Jinassi is now known as Guest743 22:41:35 *** Jinassi_ is now known as Jinassi 22:45:20 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 22:47:34 *** Guest743 has quit IRC 22:49:16 *** matt11235 has quit IRC 23:15:03 <Wolf01> ' 23:15:05 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:15:47 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:17:57 *** Ethereal_Whisper has quit IRC 23:18:16 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 23:27:56 *** Striek has joined #openttd 23:35:21 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 23:36:27 *** markjones has joined #openttd 23:43:45 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 23:44:45 *** markjones has quit IRC