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10:56:18 *** CompuDesktop has joined #openttd 10:57:36 *** Compu_ has quit IRC 10:57:36 *** techmagus has quit IRC 10:58:34 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 11:04:03 <Wolf01> Mmmh, internet backbone behaving bad again... >150ms ping to reach anything outside italy 11:04:33 <__ln__> who needs anything outside italy on the other hand 11:05:08 <Wolf01> I can't play diablo 11:05:32 <Wolf01> Too much lag 11:20:45 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 11:29:45 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 11:30:06 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:34:12 *** supermop has quit IRC 11:36:08 *** tokai has joined #openttd 11:36:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 11:43:00 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 11:54:49 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 11:57:45 *** techmagus has quit IRC 11:58:44 *** k1ngp1n has quit IRC 11:58:52 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 12:01:36 <peter1138> pom te pom ... i5-7600k or i7-7700k 12:02:48 <Wolf01> Userbenchmark says i7-7700k 12:03:20 <LordAro> you're unlikely to need an i7 unless you know you need an i7 12:04:24 <V453000> you're unlikely to need an i7 unless you play openttd 12:04:39 <LordAro> aha 12:05:01 <V453000> mor trainz 12:05:04 <SpComb> isn't i7 about like more cores and hyperthreading than i5 12:05:05 <Wolf01> Running multiple virtual machines is a pita with an i5 12:05:17 <SpComb> although I have a dual-core i7, so dunno 12:05:37 <SpComb> it's like a fake i7 12:06:10 <LordAro> top-spec i7 vs top-spec i5 *generally* isn't worth the extra cost 12:09:31 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 12:10:53 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 12:14:32 <peter1138> yeah it's like £240 vs £350 :S 12:14:55 <peter1138> plus the i5 may be able to overclock higher due to lacking hyperthreading 12:16:12 <__ln__> lucky for you the pound is worth less than before 12:17:49 <peter1138> yes 12:20:10 <peter1138> 6MB vs 8MB cache. woo. 12:22:22 <__ln__> i just sold my nearly-9-year-old Q6600 + motherboard + 8GB for 61€. didn't imagine it was still worth so much. 12:23:03 <peter1138> still using my q6600 12:25:15 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 12:25:54 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 12:29:53 <Wolf01> Still using my E6600 12:29:54 <peter1138> hmm 12:30:08 <peter1138> £1619 for top end i7 12:30:13 <peter1138> 10 cores :p 12:30:39 <Wolf01> Wow, less than a macbook and 350% more powerful alone 12:31:37 <__ln__> i don't think you can install thatn top end i7 to a laptop 12:31:42 <peter1138> bah, trying to find a decent case without a stupid window 12:33:42 <Wolf01> https://www.servercase.co.uk/Images/DBImages/Products/62_1.JPG I have one like this 12:34:59 <peter1138> i could just use my old case 12:35:02 <peter1138> but it's from 2000 12:35:11 <peter1138> cooling's a bit shit 12:36:05 <peter1138> Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 32GB (4x16GB) 12:36:06 <peter1138> hah 12:36:09 <peter1138> that'd be 64GB :D 12:37:09 <Wolf01> 32GB -> 4x16GB? 12:37:26 <peter1138> hmm , wonder if i should replace the psu as well. it's a decent one just a few years old now. 12:38:31 <LordAro> no reason to if you don't need to 12:57:37 *** techmagus has quit IRC 12:58:36 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 13:09:59 *** JezK_ has quit IRC 13:11:02 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 13:11:19 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 13:14:38 <peter1138> hrmm 13:14:46 <peter1138> my isp is following me on twitter... 13:17:22 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 13:18:38 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 13:20:03 *** Snail has joined #openttd 13:25:41 *** Striek has joined #openttd 13:38:11 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 13:38:38 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 13:46:30 *** Snail has quit IRC 13:57:35 *** techmagus has quit IRC 13:58:07 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 13:59:08 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 14:25:09 <supermop_> ive never had an i5 14:25:26 <supermop_> i always got i7 because 7 is a bigger number than 5 14:30:36 <peter1138> heh 14:36:57 <peter1138> i've never had either 14:46:48 <V453000> biggar winnar 14:46:51 <V453000> size mutters 14:55:07 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:57:35 *** techmagus has quit IRC 14:58:35 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 15:01:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i've usually had AMD 15:10:16 <V453000> omg red team faggot, everyone flame him 15:11:02 <peter1138> what? 15:11:29 <peter1138> i had cyrix -> intel -> amd -> intel. my computers last a while... 15:14:21 <peter1138> although apparently amd's new one is good 15:18:13 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 15:21:00 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 15:31:27 <__ln__> i actually have two i5s at the moment... i5 + i5 = i10 15:32:39 <crem> I believe I had i5. Unless Lenovo Thinkpad T420s had a version with i7. 15:33:11 <crem> How long do your HDDs usually last? I had one HDD failed every year. 15:33:22 <crem> But last 3 years there were no failures though.. 15:33:31 <crem> Probably because I stopped backuping. 15:38:23 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 15:38:56 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 15:39:15 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 15:42:22 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 15:57:40 *** techmagus has quit IRC 15:58:13 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 16:03:00 *** matt11235 has joined #openttd 16:09:07 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 16:09:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 16:09:13 <Alberth> o/ 16:09:20 <Wolf01> o/ 16:13:59 <crem> o/ 16:14:47 <Eddi|zuHause> well, my computers last about 5 years 16:15:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i did have a cyrix at some point 16:21:15 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:22:29 <Wolf01> Quak 16:22:46 <Eddi|zuHause> that said, this one is about 5 years old now 16:24:30 <frosch123> hola 16:27:38 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:30:54 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 16:31:36 <Alberth> o/ 16:33:10 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 16:57:50 *** techmagus has quit IRC 16:58:53 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 17:26:32 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 17:46:58 <supermop_> yo 17:47:04 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:47:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:57:40 *** techmagus has quit IRC 17:58:04 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:58:14 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 17:58:15 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 18:32:33 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 18:33:45 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:36:03 *** techmagus has quit IRC 18:36:12 <andythenorth> o/ 18:37:26 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:41:50 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 18:48:28 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 18:55:12 <Alberth> o/ 19:03:35 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:11:02 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:11:31 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:20:05 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 19:32:25 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 19:38:10 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:45:37 *** ZirconiumX has joined #openttd 19:58:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:59:17 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:11:13 <Wolf01> Blinking andy 20:24:34 *** Arveen has quit IRC 20:25:19 *** aard has joined #openttd 20:28:55 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:30:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:32:25 <Wolf01> andythenorth, every time you blink a weeping angel comes closer 20:32:40 <andythenorth> oh those 20:32:42 * andythenorth never blinks 20:33:16 <Wolf01> But you join and quit :P 20:33:37 <andythenorth> weird that 20:33:49 * andythenorth was afk, dunno what the computer did 20:34:32 <andythenorth> anyone made a NRT grf yet? o_O 20:34:42 <Wolf01> supermop_? 20:34:48 <supermop_> yo 20:34:53 <Wolf01> ^ 20:36:45 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aBwpnqD_460s.jpg new speed limit? 20:37:33 <andythenorth> speed limits :P 20:37:40 <andythenorth> whose idea was that? :P 20:37:47 <Wolf01> kh/m 20:38:01 <andythenorth> pretty good 20:38:13 <andythenorth> off-topic: plz send me the codes anyone http://blog.delib.net/were-hiring-developer-role-in-bristol-uk/ 20:40:35 <Wolf01> Bah, my abilities don't match :( 20:40:55 <Wolf01> Also my distance doesn't match 20:42:37 <__ln__> does your nationality match? 20:43:05 <Wolf01> It might be a problem with brexit 20:43:32 <andythenorth> brexit means brexit 20:45:53 <Alberth> you're getting pounds anyway :) 20:48:12 <__ln__> what does the 'nationality rules' mean in practice anyway? 20:48:20 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:52:31 <andythenorth> nationality rules means nationality rules 20:52:32 <andythenorth> of course 20:53:13 <Wolf01> Like "there are too many italians here, please stop come for stealing our jobs" 20:53:16 <__ln__> citizen of a country that is ruled by elizabeth? 20:53:46 <__ln__> or more like reigned by 20:54:59 * andythenorth doesn’t comment 20:55:11 <andythenorth> but I employ Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders 20:56:01 <supermop_> people from St. Lucia? 20:56:03 <andythenorth> not sure who their monarch is :P 20:56:10 <andythenorth> supermop_: not afaik 20:56:13 <supermop_> she's on the quid 20:56:35 <andythenorth> forums is not very interesting :( 20:56:51 <andythenorth> also fundraising is very slow this year 20:56:58 <andythenorth> or my perception is wrong 20:57:17 <Wolf01> Eh, no job, no 10€ to forums 21:07:21 <supermop_> i still have not writen any code, to answer the question. next few days at work won't leave much time for it 21:10:47 <__ln__> do you think with brexit there will be scotxit? 21:13:26 <__ln__> and if scotland remains in the EU, how likely is it that Gibraltar becomes a part of scotland? 21:13:54 <andythenorth> scoxit? dunno :) 21:14:33 <supermop_> i dont know if many people outside of England or Gibraltar care that much about the final disposition of Gibraltar 21:14:33 <debdog> a "scot it" would be way cooler 21:15:14 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, scotland might act up a bit if brexit actually goes through, but there is almost no chance anything is going to happen with gibraltar 21:16:06 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly gibraltar gets special treatment for people travelling to and from spain 21:16:33 <Eddi|zuHause> that's why there's a 2 year timeframe, to figure out this kind of detail 21:16:49 <__ln__> from a tourist's perspective there is no special treatment at that border even now. 21:17:20 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. britain is not in the schengen zone 21:17:27 <Eddi|zuHause> but the people working there 21:17:32 <Eddi|zuHause> and travelling back and forth 21:17:39 <__ln__> yes, them. 21:17:51 <Eddi|zuHause> work permits and stuff 21:18:07 <supermop_> __ln__: it would be easiest for UK to cede it back to spain, but little englanders will want to keep it, almost everyone else will not care 21:19:20 <supermop_> there are also crown possessions not part of the UK, which conceivably would not need to have their status changed by brexit 21:20:03 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody is concerned about those... 21:20:10 <Eddi|zuHause> those are usually some remote island 21:20:34 <__ln__> however gibraltar is a strategically important piece of land to own. 21:20:42 <supermop_> isle of man is not too remote 21:21:24 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, it is. :p 21:21:36 <supermop_> nor is Jersey, though it is fairly small 21:21:44 <supermop_> Eddi|zuHause: less remote than Ireland 21:22:13 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not just geographical distance 21:23:51 *** Alberth has left #openttd 21:24:09 <supermop_> A Manx passport would still conceivably be a EU passport, for any Britons who wanted one 21:24:54 <supermop_> actually the reverse 21:25:05 <supermop_> Isle of Man was never part of the EU 21:37:17 <__ln__> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-mannings-sentence.html?_r=0 21:49:13 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:54:53 <supermop_> good move 21:55:11 <supermop_> but tbh she probably would be safer in jail than in Trump's america 21:56:21 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:10:40 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 22:16:50 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:21:39 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:43:47 *** aard has quit IRC 22:49:12 <supermop_> nice tram shed: 22:49:14 <supermop_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_Electric_Railway#/media/File:Derby_Castle_horse_tram_terminus,_Douglas,_Isle_of_Man_-_geograph.org.uk_-_359071.jpg 22:52:59 *** matt11235 has quit IRC 23:13:14 <__ln__> breaking news: "BER-Eröffnung 2017 unmöglich" 23:16:03 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 23:17:55 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone got Bingo! yet? 23:18:48 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop_: i'd not call that a "shed" 23:18:48 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 23:19:38 <supermop_> Eddi|zuHause: from an architectural/structural stand point it is technically a shed 23:20:21 <supermop_> from a railway standpoint it is a shed as in a 'train shed' but not a shed as in a 'locomotive shed' 23:21:07 <Eddi|zuHause> those are semantical details that, frankly, just elude me as a foreign language speaker 23:21:31 <supermop_> the former being generally used to refer to the large roofs over the tracks at older terminal stations, and the later referring to the place the locomotive goes to bed at night 23:22:30 <supermop_> shed i assume is of germanic origin though? what is the usage in german, either as a roof type or building? 23:29:39 <Eddi|zuHause> in german for locomotive shed is "Lokschuppen", where "Schuppen" (=shed) usually means a not-particularly-sturdy construction for storing stuff in, like garden sheds and stuff 23:30:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i heard "Schuppen" being used for open structures like this roof-only station thingie 23:30:44 <Eddi|zuHause> whether "Schuppen" and "shed" are etymologically related i don't know 23:32:18 <supermop_> i would be willing to bet on it 23:32:28 <Eddi|zuHause> apparently it's more related to "shop" than "shed" 23:35:46 <Eddi|zuHause> from Schuppen you apparently get to Schopf (which means the hair on your head), and from english shed you get to Schädel (skull) 23:36:00 <Eddi|zuHause> so that's probably the point where they diverged 23:36:53 <Eddi|zuHause> how words for head things get to mean buildings is something that's not entirely obvious from quick internet searches 23:37:33 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:38:11 <Eddi|zuHause> alternative path is that english "shed" comes from "shade", which is related to german "Schatten" (shadow) 23:38:59 <Eddi|zuHause> which then makes sense that a roof-only structure will provide shade 23:40:14 <Eddi|zuHause> but then there's pretty much no relation to the german word "Schuppen" 23:44:13 <supermop_> hmm 23:44:15 <supermop_> odd 23:44:21 <supermop_> ok walking home now 23:49:50 <Wolf01> 'night 23:49:54 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC