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12:21:57 <andythenorth> needs a patch 12:22:12 <andythenorth> if there are slow pax ships and fast pax ships 12:22:18 <andythenorth> why would you ever choose the slow one? 12:22:24 <andythenorth> this newgrf sucks :| 12:23:49 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 12:29:22 <Wolf01> Make the slow one carry 10x more pax 12:31:10 <Wolf01> If you can't make a vehicle appealing with speed, make it appealing with other things, like >90% reliability, huge capacity, nicer aspect 12:33:15 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 12:36:48 <andythenorth> the slow and fast will have same capacity :) 12:36:57 <andythenorth> because...ships 12:39:39 <Wolf01> Quak 12:40:29 <Wolf01> I'm not convinced about over-realistic newgrfs :( 12:41:19 <__ln__> over-realistic = more realistic than real life? 12:42:18 <Wolf01> Yes, because in real life there's always the unexpected, grfs cherry pick some examples and make them the standard 12:43:11 <Wolf01> Like vehicles should gain more speed and capacity with every new generation 12:43:43 <Wolf01> I would make a fleet of small and quick vehicles in >2000 12:43:44 <andythenorth> you think they should or shouldn’t? o_O 12:44:15 <Wolf01> Or 5-6 vehicles per route with huge capacity 12:44:58 <andythenorth> I tried that somewhat in HEQS 12:45:11 <Wolf01> Not working good? 12:45:16 <andythenorth> it works fine 12:45:26 <andythenorth> but there’s no…what V would call a scheme 12:45:39 <frosch123> hoi 12:46:02 <andythenorth> quak 12:46:11 <Wolf01> On each game I follow always a different scheme, because I'm curious and easily bored, so it will be a good thing to not have an imposed scheme for me 13:06:12 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 13:22:37 *** Striek has joined #openttd 13:33:47 * andythenorth keeps the pax ships all same speed 13:52:23 *** matt11235 has quit IRC 13:54:56 *** supermop__ has joined #openttd 13:58:07 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 14:18:17 <supermop> cargo age? 14:18:37 <supermop> patch in possibility for ships to capsize 14:21:39 <supermop> not related to ship size or anything 14:22:10 <supermop> just a .01% chance your ship sinks for no reason 14:22:11 <Wolf01> We have aliens, why not a kraken disaster? 14:22:43 <__ln__> i guess that would be too realistic 14:23:17 <supermop> and devs should stonewall when bug reports are made "i don't know what you're talking about" "you never had a Ship 5" 14:25:07 <Rubidium> what ship sunk for no reason? 14:26:40 <__ln__> yes, stonewall exactly as Rubidium is demonstrating 14:27:53 <Rubidium> no, Schettino demonstrated the stonewall technique 14:28:42 <Rubidium> Smith demonstrated the same technique with ice though 14:36:27 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 14:40:48 *** supermop__ has quit IRC 14:58:18 *** aard_ has joined #openttd 15:03:45 *** aard has quit IRC 15:17:07 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 15:21:06 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 15:22:54 *** matt11235 has joined #openttd 15:24:27 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 15:32:45 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 15:33:50 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 15:35:54 *** tokai has joined #openttd 15:35:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 15:40:07 *** supermop has quit IRC 15:43:47 *** supermop has joined #openttd 15:43:57 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 15:44:20 *** supermop_home has joined #openttd 15:44:56 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:46:58 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 15:48:26 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 15:52:53 *** AlsoStriek has joined #openttd 15:53:48 *** Striek has quit IRC 16:01:13 *** Striek has joined #openttd 16:01:27 *** AlsoStriek has quit IRC 16:05:08 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 16:08:44 *** supermop__ has joined #openttd 16:11:32 *** supermop has quit IRC 16:13:00 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 16:13:13 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 16:41:16 *** lobstar has joined #openttd 16:45:49 *** supermop has joined #openttd 16:50:17 *** supermop__ has quit IRC 17:05:34 *** roidal_ has joined #openttd 17:12:26 *** roidal has quit IRC 17:12:38 *** DDR has joined #openttd 17:15:11 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:21:03 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 17:24:12 *** supermop has quit IRC 17:29:04 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 17:29:04 *** supermop has joined #openttd 17:32:22 *** Cals has quit IRC 17:34:01 *** aard_ has quit IRC 17:34:18 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 17:35:43 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 17:38:07 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:38:48 *** aard has joined #openttd 17:39:53 *** Snail has joined #openttd 17:40:20 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 17:44:48 *** supermop has quit IRC 17:47:32 *** supermop_home has quit IRC 17:51:38 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 17:53:56 *** Striek has quit IRC 17:54:51 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:57:39 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 17:57:56 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:58:09 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 18:00:29 *** supermop has joined #openttd 18:00:39 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:01:21 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:01:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:03:48 <Wolf01> https://www.cheatography.com/miracoli/cheat-sheets/bitwise-operations/ Oh, this is interesting 18:04:57 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 18:05:38 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 18:08:15 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 18:08:21 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 18:08:32 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 18:09:12 <frosch123> Wolf01: did you find the error? :) 18:09:19 <Wolf01> Nah 18:09:29 <frosch123> there are two easy ones 18:12:04 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 18:12:52 *** supermop has quit IRC 18:13:36 *** Progman has quit IRC 18:14:24 *** supermop has joined #openttd 18:15:31 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:16:45 *** Progman has quit IRC 18:16:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know about "error", but the convert to lower/upper case ones need as precondition that the input is a letter 18:18:07 <frosch123> nah, there are some twos too many in the multiply/divide by two 18:18:32 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 18:20:39 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:20:46 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 18:20:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 18:20:59 <Alberth> hi hi 18:21:22 <frosch123> hoi 18:21:38 <frosch123> Alberth: you have some weird copy/paste quit message set up 18:21:44 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 18:22:06 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i only skimmed it, i must have missed those 18:23:56 <Alberth> I have? 18:24:29 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: yeah, your last quit message was weird as hell 18:24:51 <frosch123> [Friday 20 January 2017] [21:04:32] Part Alberth (~alberth@00015f9e.user.oftc.net) has left this channel (ISON thofkamp planetmaker LordAro b.geertsma@gmail.com dihedral ). 18:25:02 <LordAro> that is a weird quit message 18:25:11 <Alberth> wow :p 18:27:22 <Alberth> disabled some "extra irc" plugin, please let me know if it happens again 18:28:03 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you could try quitting :p 18:28:12 *** Alberth has left #openttd 18:28:23 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:28:30 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: how rude :) 18:28:52 <Eddi|zuHause> how is that my fault? :p 18:29:10 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 18:29:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 18:29:20 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: no quit message this time 18:29:37 <Alberth> ok, that's better than, thanks for letting me know 18:30:15 *** debdog has quit IRC 18:31:37 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 18:34:51 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 18:35:17 *** supermop has quit IRC 18:35:30 *** Progman has quit IRC 18:35:36 *** Marvinyo has joined #openttd 18:37:28 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:40:02 *** Progman has quit IRC 18:42:00 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:50:27 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 18:57:02 *** supermop has joined #openttd 18:59:53 *** ConductorCat has quit IRC 19:01:33 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 19:03:17 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 19:06:54 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 19:07:15 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 19:07:55 *** Marvinyo has quit IRC 19:10:01 *** ConductorCat has joined #openttd 19:10:38 *** supermop has quit IRC 19:13:59 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 19:17:55 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:20:19 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 19:25:02 *** supermop has joined #openttd 19:27:58 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 19:30:04 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 19:34:12 *** supermop has quit IRC 19:39:06 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 19:40:46 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:47:39 *** supermop has joined #openttd 19:50:52 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 19:58:19 <andythenorth> GarryG’s brain teaser :P 19:59:14 <Alberth> I only read the post where he quoted me, and I failed to understand why he did that completely 20:00:18 *** debdog has joined #openttd 20:01:23 <frosch123> does auzind have some special type of hotel? 20:01:27 <frosch123> or is there no context? 20:02:54 <andythenorth> I think it’s context-free :) 20:03:30 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 20:03:30 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:03:49 *** Progman has joined #openttd 20:03:51 <frosch123> well, i prefer the camel story 20:05:53 *** supermop has quit IRC 20:06:44 <frosch123> http://www.kidsworldfun.com/17-camels-and-3-sons-short-story.php <- in case you don't know it 20:07:17 * andythenorth reads 20:08:21 *** supermop has joined #openttd 20:12:52 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 20:14:49 <frosch123> http://trickofmind.com/2009/09/17-camels.html <- that's a better narration of the same thing 20:14:55 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 20:18:53 <andythenorth> neat eh? 20:19:38 *** supermop has quit IRC 20:20:39 *** supermop has joined #openttd 20:24:27 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 20:25:04 <andythenorth> how fast should freight / mail / pax ships go? 20:25:23 <andythenorth> there are 2 generations 1850 and 1950 or so 20:26:10 <frosch123> mail ships :p 20:26:33 <frosch123> Lejving: you should add some purpose for mail 20:26:34 * andythenorth refrains from google images search 20:26:45 <frosch123> mail is the most stupid cargo in the game 20:26:45 <andythenorth> you know there’ll be an IRL example if I search :P 20:26:48 <andythenorth> isn’t it 20:27:00 <andythenorth> it’s not the most stupid _thing_ in the game though :) 20:27:10 <Lejving> sounds like a good idea 20:27:20 <Lejving> gotta make it fit the soylent theme :) 20:27:33 <frosch123> just make it accepted by the power plant 20:27:39 <Lejving> planetmaker came up with the idea of dropping pax to get oil (where does baby oil come from?) :D 20:28:32 <Lejving> hmm yeah, I like the idea of destroying communications for energy needs 20:28:33 <frosch123> Lejving: when "smooth economy" was added in ottd 0.3 or something there was a "bug" 20:28:49 <frosch123> since smooth economy changed production rates of output cargos of industries independently 20:28:53 <andythenorth> is smooth economy most stupid thing in game? 20:28:55 <andythenorth> :) 20:29:01 <frosch123> it also spawned independent news items for each cargo 20:29:15 <frosch123> one of them was "oil rig increases passenger production by 23%" 20:30:02 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 20:30:08 <Lejving> :) 20:30:41 <frosch123> andythenorth: anyway, since aircraft move a 1/4 of speed, maybe ships should move at 4x speed 20:31:53 * andythenorth was considering 150% of reality :P 20:32:02 *** supermop has quit IRC 20:32:02 <andythenorth> 4x is….a bold proposal 20:32:26 <andythenorth> 2x is pretty fair though :) 20:32:43 <andythenorth> that’s about 35mph 20:32:54 <frosch123> i think i played aircraft at 2/4 last time i used them 20:33:09 <andythenorth> I have it at 1/1 I think 20:33:37 <andythenorth> it’s one of those ‘wtf does this actually do?' settings 20:33:50 <Alberth> in the 90s' UK mail took a week across the channel 20:34:00 *** supermop has joined #openttd 20:34:24 <frosch123> Alberth: italian mail took 4 weeks over the alps or so :) 20:34:29 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 20:34:40 <Alberth> by boat??? :O 20:35:00 <frosch123> ah, i guess that would explain it :) 20:35:09 <Alberth> rofl 20:35:14 <andythenorth> it’s like that Herzog film :P 20:35:27 <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzcarraldo 20:36:24 <frosch123> no idea, kinski is one of those people who you do not know for their movies 20:37:58 <andythenorth> steam ship…same speed as a steam tram? Seems fair? 20:38:07 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 20:38:37 <Alberth> nn 20:38:50 *** aard has quit IRC 20:39:01 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 20:39:08 <andythenorth> bye Alberth 20:42:02 *** supermop has quit IRC 20:44:35 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 20:48:16 *** ZirconiumX has joined #openttd 20:51:21 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:51:56 <andythenorth> how many pax for a ‘large’ pax ship? o_O 20:52:02 <andythenorth> there are 3 or so smaller sizes 20:52:09 <andythenorth> smallest is likely 30 or 40 20:52:34 <V453000> 666 20:52:37 <andythenorth> nice 20:52:40 <andythenorth> I like it 20:54:10 <andythenorth> ‘large’ mail ship: who needs to transport 720 bags of mail in one vehicle, ever? 20:54:25 <andythenorth> V will now post proof of coop game doing that 20:55:08 *** supermop has joined #openttd 20:55:56 <frosch123> there is usually more mail than valuables 20:56:58 *** aard has joined #openttd 20:58:23 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 20:59:37 <andythenorth> I think I messed with vehicle capacity for valuables, can’t remember 21:02:55 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 21:06:01 *** supermop has quit IRC 21:07:30 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:08:17 *** DDR has quit IRC 21:09:20 <V453000> andythenorth: barely any ship coop games, sorry :P 21:09:42 <andythenorth> but ships are so not lame :P 21:12:43 *** aard has quit IRC 21:14:28 *** supermop has joined #openttd 21:17:22 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 21:19:18 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 21:22:32 *** supermop has quit IRC 21:29:45 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 21:34:48 *** Noy_ has joined #openttd 21:37:27 *** supermop has joined #openttd 21:39:47 *** Noy has quit IRC 21:40:29 *** Noy_ has quit IRC 21:41:23 *** Noy has joined #openttd 21:41:52 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 21:42:11 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 21:45:27 *** supermop has quit IRC 21:45:42 *** supermop has joined #openttd 21:49:31 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:50:16 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 21:51:23 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:51:47 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:01:44 *** Striek has joined #openttd 22:02:45 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 22:05:57 *** supermop has quit IRC 22:09:04 *** supermop has joined #openttd 22:10:41 *** Arveen has quit IRC 22:12:52 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 22:20:49 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 22:21:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:27:12 *** Striek has quit IRC 22:30:17 *** Noy_ has joined #openttd 22:35:02 *** Noy has quit IRC 22:35:02 *** Noy_ has quit IRC 22:38:39 *** Noy has joined #openttd 22:40:37 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 22:45:06 *** supermop has quit IRC 22:49:32 *** Progman has joined #openttd 22:51:09 *** supermop has joined #openttd 22:52:47 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 22:58:42 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 23:01:51 *** supermop has quit IRC 23:05:17 *** Noy has quit IRC 23:05:19 *** Noy has joined #openttd 23:06:36 *** supermop has joined #openttd 23:06:45 *** roidal_ has quit IRC 23:09:47 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 23:10:12 *** Striek has joined #openttd 23:13:58 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:17:04 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 23:20:17 *** supermop has quit IRC 23:31:57 *** supermop has joined #openttd 23:32:54 <Wolf01> 'night 23:32:58 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:35:20 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:36:27 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 23:36:47 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 23:40:02 *** supermop has quit IRC 23:42:52 *** Noy has quit IRC 23:43:11 *** supermop has joined #openttd 23:43:23 *** matt11235 has quit IRC 23:46:52 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 23:49:46 *** Noy has joined #openttd 23:51:21 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 23:54:31 *** supermop has quit IRC 23:58:46 *** supermop has joined #openttd