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00:05:50 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: might be tricky with the gauge difference :p 00:15:20 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 00:21:36 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 00:27:40 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 00:40:14 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 00:41:34 <quiznilo> are 'nml' files called 'animal files'? 00:43:05 <quiznilo> this is about the best programming instructions I've ever read: (06:58:27 PM) ran_tao: This is his wife drop him from this game 00:43:09 <quiznilo> not that 00:43:13 <quiznilo> krushia | find lists of all the towns in california/nevada/utah/mexico and script fu badabing badaboom pow in that format and voilaa 00:46:30 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 00:46:40 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 00:53:47 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 01:00:04 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 01:04:05 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 01:10:35 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 01:16:51 *** DDR has joined #openttd 01:23:47 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 01:30:15 *** chomwitt3 has quit IRC 01:52:37 <quiznilo> https://github.com/GameMaker2k/MidWest-Towns/blob/master/mwc_town_names-optimized.nml what is the second number associated with the town? 01:52:41 <quiznilo> *second field 02:03:55 *** chomwitt4 has quit IRC 02:04:20 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 02:26:46 *** glx has quit IRC 02:54:28 *** Snail has joined #openttd 03:04:40 *** DDR has quit IRC 03:18:20 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 03:50:02 <quiznilo> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/naJjr0Z2s7Yl2xcNCazk/ 03:50:07 <quiznilo> my first NewRGF 03:51:47 <quiznilo> SW Town names... https://paste.pound-python.org/show/2W9p3fzeaqTybkur9M3s/ is even better, without Paysen repeated 03:55:14 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 04:00:50 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 05:04:27 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 05:04:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 05:04:39 <Alberth> moin 05:17:40 *** cosmobird_ has joined #openttd 05:27:03 *** cosmobird__ has joined #openttd 05:28:08 *** cosmobird_ has quit IRC 05:33:31 *** Snail has quit IRC 05:54:57 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 05:55:17 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 06:05:23 *** keoz has joined #openttd 06:26:50 <quiznilo> mornin' 06:27:04 <quiznilo> I wrote my first NewGRF 06:39:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 06:53:41 *** DDR has joined #openttd 06:54:53 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 06:55:12 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 07:06:11 *** Progman has joined #openttd 07:26:47 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 07:28:25 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 07:29:41 <Alberth> citynames newgrf? :) 07:35:04 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 07:50:41 *** argoneus has quit IRC 07:51:49 *** argoneus has joined #openttd 07:55:04 *** TheIJ has quit IRC 07:57:38 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 07:58:15 *** TheIJ has joined #openttd 08:03:01 *** goodger has quit IRC 08:03:29 *** goodger has joined #openttd 08:25:32 *** Cubey has quit IRC 08:27:07 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:29:25 <Alberth> o/ 08:36:15 <andythenorth> hi 09:02:03 <peter1138> mooning 09:09:33 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 09:19:36 <peter1138> ... 09:19:36 <peter1138> fuck 09:19:39 <DorpsGek> Commit by peter1138 :: r27858 /trunk/src (fontcache.cpp ship_cmd.cpp) (2017-04-23 11:19:32 +0200 ) 09:19:40 <DorpsGek> -Change [FS#6560]: Add missing game script event for ships arriving at a station. 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11:12:37 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 11:13:18 <Wolf01> What, shaving? 11:13:59 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 11:15:48 <Wolf01> Because of the croissant XD 11:17:41 <Wolf01> BTW, I was tired of the shape of my beard, not that I cut it all, just trimmed those 3cm to 4mm and fixed the edges 11:29:54 <Wolf01> Mmmh, git shit guide free ebook https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning 11:31:31 *** juzza1 has joined #openttd 11:36:17 *** juzza1_ has quit IRC 11:40:39 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 11:53:24 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 11:54:03 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:54:17 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 11:55:21 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 11:55:44 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 11:57:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 11:57:42 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 12:02:12 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 12:02:38 *** chomwitt4 has quit IRC 12:03:29 *** Alberth has left #openttd 12:05:38 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 12:08:40 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 12:12:08 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 12:13:27 *** Gja has quit IRC 12:15:05 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 12:15:32 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 12:21:33 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 12:30:53 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 12:40:34 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 12:43:18 *** Gja has joined #openttd 12:47:00 *** chomwitt3 has quit IRC 12:50:03 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 12:56:32 *** chomwitt4 has quit IRC 12:58:33 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 13:01:39 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:04:04 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 13:05:01 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 13:09:31 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 13:10:27 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 13:14:00 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 13:16:00 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 13:20:26 *** chomwitt3 has quit IRC 13:20:31 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 13:26:55 *** chomwitt4 has quit IRC 13:28:45 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 13:33:01 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 13:36:27 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 13:39:31 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 13:42:58 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 13:44:58 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 13:49:26 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 13:49:34 *** keoz has quit IRC 13:51:23 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 13:52:53 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 13:55:56 *** chomwitt3 has quit IRC 13:59:23 *** chomwitt4 has quit IRC 13:59:23 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 14:03:50 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 14:05:51 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 14:08:18 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 14:10:17 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 14:13:46 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 14:14:47 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 14:17:13 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 14:20:15 *** chomwitt3 has quit IRC 14:23:41 *** chomwitt4 has quit IRC 14:25:31 <supermop> I think as long as you don't go looking for the elephant's foot you'll be fine 14:27:40 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 14:28:35 *** keoz has joined #openttd 14:28:51 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 14:30:00 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:33:56 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 14:50:10 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 14:53:36 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 14:56:38 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 14:57:02 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 15:00:05 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 15:00:38 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 15:03:23 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 15:03:32 *** chomwitt3 has quit IRC 15:08:29 *** Gja has quit IRC 15:09:55 *** chomwitt4 has quit IRC 15:38:06 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 15:38:36 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 15:44:22 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 15:45:34 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 15:50:12 <Eddi|zuHause> what's an "elephant's foot" in this context? 15:51:58 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 15:54:00 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 15:55:13 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: i'd guess http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/the-elephant-foot-of-the-chernobyl-disaster-1986/ 15:57:26 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 16:00:26 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 16:03:55 *** chomwitt3 has quit IRC 16:12:29 <Eddi|zuHause> LordAro: i don't think you can get near the reactor unsupervised :p 16:12:49 <supermop> I assume no one is posted to that room to supervise it 16:13:36 <Eddi|zuHause> there's still an operational nuclear power station on that location 16:14:43 <LordAro> nah 16:14:57 <LordAro> hasn't been for a decade or so now, iirc 16:15:03 <LordAro> tours are fairly easy to get these days 16:15:45 <LordAro> https://chernobyl-tour.com/english/ e.g. 16:15:52 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 16:15:57 <LordAro> definitely something i'd like to do at some point 16:16:11 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 16:21:14 <Eddi|zuHause> LordAro: i don't think these tours cover the actual power station 16:22:08 <Eddi|zuHause> also, it's generally not advisable to go "off the beaten path" in the area 16:22:58 <Eddi|zuHause> because the bushes and grass can have significantly higher concentration of radioactive elements 16:23:21 <supermop> actually, when i was in moab, utah 16:23:40 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:23:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 16:25:36 <supermop> a lot of the old tailings sites from the old uranium mine and processing facilities had been planted with grassed to leach certain contaminants from the soil 16:25:54 <supermop> with the plants then being harvested and disposed of 16:26:44 <supermop> the more contaminated areas the simply were sealing all the soil into steel containers and taking it away to be buried in the desert 16:27:57 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: true, but that's not to say no one goes there at all 16:29:14 <Eddi|zuHause> LordAro: last i heard was they were building a new sarkophagus to replace the old one that's getting brittly 16:31:12 <LordAro> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_New_Safe_Confinement aye 16:33:40 <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK8ykPmtRyg 16:34:19 <LordAro> good ol' tom scott 16:34:26 <LordAro> he's a bit of a legend at my uni :) 16:37:28 <LordAro> largely due to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztYapweHD3g 16:43:59 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:47:55 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 16:54:22 *** chomwitt4 has quit IRC 16:54:30 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 17:00:50 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 17:16:02 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 17:22:28 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 17:23:32 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 17:30:00 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 17:38:02 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 17:42:25 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 17:42:39 *** Samu has joined #openttd 17:44:32 *** chomwitt3 has quit IRC 17:44:58 <Wolf01> Still talking about that? 17:45:52 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 17:48:56 *** chomwitt4 has quit IRC 17:52:14 *** cosmobird__ has quit IRC 17:52:18 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 18:06:34 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 18:06:46 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 18:07:24 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 18:13:51 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 18:14:51 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 18:21:20 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 18:23:17 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 18:26:43 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 18:29:45 *** chomwitt3 has quit IRC 18:30:18 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 18:33:10 *** chomwitt4 has quit IRC 18:33:48 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 18:36:38 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 18:40:15 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 18:41:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:50:20 *** chomwitt3 has joined #openttd 18:53:51 *** chomwitt4 has joined #openttd 18:56:45 *** chomwitt2 has quit IRC 18:58:42 <__ln__> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/04/22/students-avoid-making-eye-contact-could-guiltyof-racism-oxford/ 19:00:16 *** chomwitt3 has quit IRC 19:04:49 *** Gja has joined #openttd 19:06:34 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: i start to think that people who talk about "microaggressions" have run out of real problem to solve. it's like bodies who don't get to fight enough microbes, start making up allergies so they have something to do 19:08:34 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 19:11:02 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:13:09 <andythenorth> is it fake news? 19:14:16 <Wolf01> And even if it isn't, then is a way to mask the real problems, which are clearly the videogames 19:18:39 <Eddi|zuHause> well, my experience is that if you tell people "don't talk about X" will cause people to talk about X even more, even more negatively because talking about X has now this "forbidden" touch 19:18:40 <__ln__> dunno if telegraph is a fake news media 19:21:37 <andythenorth> easter eggs anyone? 19:22:15 <Wolf01> I don't get easter eggs since I was a kid 19:24:35 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:26:55 <Eddi|zuHause> we search easter eggs every year 19:27:10 <Eddi|zuHause> and pretty much every year some go missing 19:35:52 <Wolf01> https://developers.slashdot.org/story/17/04/23/0339211/flawed-online-tutorials-led-to-vulnerabilities-in-software heh 19:48:47 <andythenorth> send me the codez 19:49:37 * andythenorth once got burned by python tutorials including eval() 19:50:04 <andythenorth> which is not so good for untrustworthy input 19:55:12 <LordAro> '; DROP TABLE andythenorth; -- 20:03:10 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:03:24 <peter1138> now look what you've done 20:03:43 *** Gja has quit IRC 20:06:17 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:08:03 <LordAro> m'bad 20:14:01 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 20:21:19 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 20:22:30 *** Gja has joined #openttd 20:28:17 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:30:54 *** efess has quit IRC 20:32:02 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:37:31 *** efess has joined #openttd 20:38:55 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:42:24 *** Cybert1nus has joined #openttd 20:43:46 *** Cybertinus has quit IRC 20:51:38 *** Gja has quit IRC 20:57:17 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 21:12:34 *** Sheogorath has quit IRC 21:14:25 *** Sheogorath has joined #openttd 21:26:12 *** Ethereal_Whisper has joined #openttd 21:31:02 *** jinks has quit IRC 21:41:12 *** jinks_ has joined #openttd 21:42:38 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 21:43:32 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 21:50:16 <quiznilo> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/a73JdGusBPwE0y2cZWJG/ southwestern US towns 21:52:58 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:18:05 *** jinks_ has quit IRC 22:27:37 *** keoz has quit IRC 22:47:50 <supermop> quiznilo does it agglomerate random names from parts? 23:06:42 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 23:07:31 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 23:09:45 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 23:16:44 <quiznilo> ya, I did, I found a list of the top 5,000 cities in the US by pop, and scraped the top 50 from california, utah, nevada, arizona, new mexico and colorado 23:17:03 <quiznilo> except nevada has like only 18 cities in the list, and new mexico has 33 23:19:13 <Eddi|zuHause> quiznilo: so what if you want to have more than 250 towns on a map? 23:19:32 <quiznilo> I can up the number 23:19:53 <quiznilo> but lower numbers mean you're more likely to recognize the town 23:20:10 <quiznilo> LA and Denver won't get nuked by the RNG 23:21:46 <Eddi|zuHause> you can make bigger towns more likely to be chosen 23:21:55 <quiznilo> how? 23:21:58 <quiznilo> I asked that last night 23:22:09 <quiznilo> nobody was around, sadly 23:22:27 <Eddi|zuHause> each town name has a number next to it that affects how often it gets chosen in relation to the other names 23:23:06 <quiznilo> so obviously, the higher the number, the better 23:23:13 <quiznilo> this is great, I can include a lot more towns 23:23:41 <Eddi|zuHause> so if you have ("A",4),("B",2),("C",1), "A" has 4 in 7 chance, "B" has 2 in 7, and "C" has 1 in 7 23:24:25 <Eddi|zuHause> more advanced things are possible 23:24:29 <quiznilo> MAX is 255 or something? 23:25:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure how nml handles it 23:26:56 <Eddi|zuHause> but internally, it rolls a 32bit number, which you can split into x-bit chunks to select the different parts of the name 23:27:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 23:28:32 <Eddi|zuHause> it probably works best in nml if the total numbers add up to a power of 2 (e.g.256, 512, 65536, ...) 23:28:52 <Eddi|zuHause> but that should not be a requirement 23:29:47 <supermop> I've always felt that the middle third of cities would make the best names 23:30:34 <supermop> I like seeing plausible looking town names, that I don't necessarily recognize 23:31:18 <supermop> bottom and middle third or us cities probably have the problem of a lot of repeat names though 23:32:05 <supermop> anyway that's why for nearly a decade I used finnish names almost exclusively, and now use Vietnamese names 23:32:53 <supermop> a non-indo european language has the added benefit that names don't seem geographically incongruous 23:33:23 <FLHerne> Yeah, seeing "Bournemouth" as a tiny village on a mountain can be strange 23:33:24 <supermop> because i cant recognize anything that refers to a river, or lake or whatever 23:33:30 <supermop> exactly 23:34:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:34:21 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:34:30 <supermop> a set of town names in one or more Mesoamerican languages would be nice 23:36:08 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that annoyed me with the german town name generator, it generates lots of "<X> an der <Y>" town names, but there's never an <Y> river, and the towns are not even close by 23:37:02 <Eddi|zuHause> then i started using the german town name newgrf 23:37:44 <Eddi|zuHause> which had the slightly less annoying habit of having two suffixes "-kirch" and "-kirchen", which combined appear too often 23:38:03 <supermop> original tto names had a ton of "X-on-Sea" 23:38:20 <supermop> haha Kirchkirchen 23:38:29 <supermop> sounds like a pious town 23:39:16 <Eddi|zuHause> no, not combied like that 23:39:55 <Eddi|zuHause> just due to them being so similar, it appears as if it's just appearing twice as often 23:41:30 <Wolf01> 'night 23:41:35 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:42:52 <supermop> some kind of dutch/english/ and Algonquin bastardization generator would be nice for fictitious New York-ish feeling games 23:59:34 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC