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FIRS 12:24:16 <andythenorth> will probably regret this 12:30:02 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 12:30:21 <Wolf01> quak 12:30:58 <frosch123> hoi 12:57:18 <andythenorth> "cb 161: Default name for nearby station” 12:57:20 <andythenorth> o_O 13:06:09 <andythenorth> regret 13:06:26 <andythenorth> Error: (IndexError) "pop from empty list". 13:07:10 <andythenorth> File "bin35/lib/python3.5/site-packages/nml-v6201_45b1e0507a8d-py3.5-macosx-10.12-x86_64.egg/nml/actions/action4.py", line 168, in get_string_action4s 13:07:36 <andythenorth> triggered by “nearby_station_name: string(STR_STATION, string(STR_TOWN),string(STR_IND_ALUMINIUM_PLANT));” 13:07:38 <frosch123> what are you doing? 13:07:52 <andythenorth> trying to use industry name as a substring in nearby_station_name 13:08:26 * andythenorth digs some more 13:08:30 <andythenorth> might just be user error 13:09:34 <_dp_> hi, so what should I do with station loading being affected by 0 load issue? 13:09:38 <_dp_> report it as a bug or implement patch to station rating fixing pushing? 13:09:43 <_dp_> or just abandon all hope)) 13:10:16 <supermop_home> can we have station name sets, like town names? 13:10:46 <frosch123> station names have so much magic 13:10:47 * andythenorth looking through 308k lines of firs.nml :( 13:10:53 <frosch123> they are translated, towns are not 13:11:02 <andythenorth> I’m not sure if what I’m doing is wise 13:11:07 <frosch123> they depend on on the location, nothing else does 13:11:32 <supermop_home> so cold in apartment 13:12:00 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8434/nearby_station_name.png 13:12:11 <andythenorth> changing that parameter on a running game is interesting 13:14:02 <andythenorth> ok so I can’t use TTD strings for industry names 13:14:03 <andythenorth> nearby_station_name: string(STR_STATION, string(STR_TOWN),TTD_STR_INDUSTRY_NAME_COPPER_ORE_MINE); 13:14:27 <frosch123> you just skip the property? 13:14:42 <andythenorth> I could, this is getting complex 13:14:49 <andythenorth> dunno if it’s worth it 13:14:55 <andythenorth> 10% of players know about parameters 13:15:01 <andythenorth> 10% of those bother changing them 13:15:18 <andythenorth> 1% of those want this ‘industry station names’ option 13:15:27 <andythenorth> 9% of them want something that isn’t in FIRS at all 13:15:54 <frosch123> 100% of them are you? 13:15:56 <andythenorth> “parameters: just say no” 13:16:16 <andythenorth> I like the silly ones you and planetmaker and whoever else put it in 13:16:31 * andythenorth can’t remember who actually did them 13:16:39 <_dp_> you forgot 10% who know about newgrfs 13:16:42 <frosch123> yes, i think it was me an pm 13:18:19 <_dp_> tho it works differently, 1% wants that option and then they learns about newgrfs and parameters :p 13:18:20 *** ricus has quit IRC 13:18:22 <andythenorth> I’ll offer ‘FIRS names’ and ‘OpenTTD names’ 13:18:24 <andythenorth> and that’s it 13:18:34 <andythenorth> but eh, the FIRS name is only used for first station 13:18:38 <andythenorth> so will that cause bug reports? 13:19:48 <andythenorth> it can’t be a callback instead of a property - that would risk the station name changing when result changed? 13:20:57 <frosch123> it can be a purchase list callback 13:21:28 <frosch123> i think we already discussed the options before, but i don't remember the result 13:22:03 <andythenorth> me neither :) 13:22:31 <andythenorth> currently it’s tempting to remove the names entirely, as it just causes player complaints / confusion occasionally 13:22:53 <frosch123> more then after removing them? 13:22:58 <frosch123> *than 13:23:04 <andythenorth> damned either way :) 13:23:38 <supermop_home> convert firs to goddamn steam 13:23:44 <supermop_home> forget all this digital 13:23:48 <frosch123> i shortly considered mentioning aircraft in the 1.7.1-rc1 post, but thought that the same people would fell for it again. noone could possibly fall for train removal, right? 13:23:57 <supermop_home> you gotta be albert einstein to figure it out 13:24:26 <frosch123> we already have a alb*ert, we only need a stone 13:25:22 *** Biolunar_ has quit IRC 13:26:09 <supermop_home> frosch123 you know the steam is just brutal. 13:26:30 <supermop_home> you see that sucker going and steam's going all over the place 13:30:48 * andythenorth bbl 13:30:50 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:39:04 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 14:19:22 *** ricus has joined #openttd 14:32:17 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 14:33:25 <supermop_home> I should have used andy's recolor magic on these mineral hoppers 14:38:59 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttd 14:48:06 <Alberth> it's too late now? 14:48:29 <supermop_home> ive already saved 99% of the pngs 14:51:09 <Alberth> so, it's time to save another 90% of the remaining pngs? 15:22:33 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 15:39:14 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 15:50:18 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:53:54 <supermop_home> well now I got distracted redrawing the busses 15:54:01 <supermop_home> stripes didn't look good 15:54:41 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:55:24 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:58:33 <andythenorth> ach 15:58:43 <andythenorth> this station names parameter is daft 15:58:56 <andythenorth> just because I can code it, doesn’t mean I shold 15:58:59 <andythenorth> should * 16:10:02 <andythenorth> Alberth: have you been making mazes in RCT? o_O 16:22:32 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 16:42:39 <Alberth> no 16:43:19 <Alberth> I programmed one in BASIC though, looong time ago :) 16:43:45 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:43:51 <Alberth> you could even walk through it (in 4 directions, fixed position) 16:43:55 <andythenorth> https://www.reddit.com/r/rct/comments/5xud5r/rollercoaster_tycoons_recordbreaking_hedge_maze/ 16:44:09 <andythenorth> dunno if that’s RCT or OpenRCT 16:44:22 <Cubey> That's the mobile one 16:44:29 <Cubey> I can tell by the interface 16:44:53 <supermop_home> no reason for a trolleybus 10 years from now to have pantographs instead of poles, right? 16:45:22 <supermop_home> lane changing with poles seems would remain useful for a bus 16:47:25 <Alberth> matter of time before someone tried that :) 16:47:42 <andythenorth> vote now if FIRS should keep station name parameter 16:47:46 <andythenorth> otherwise I delete it 16:47:53 <supermop_home> delete firs 16:48:42 <supermop_home> 240 pngs all done now 16:50:13 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 16:50:18 <andythenorth> supermop_home: which industry did you owe me? o_O 16:50:53 <supermop_home> arc furnace 16:51:14 <andythenorth> I think I can do that one 16:51:14 <supermop_home> these are all trolley trucks and buses though 16:51:19 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:51:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 16:51:27 <andythenorth> I found some good pictures 16:57:06 <supermop_home> so in nml specs, 16:57:55 <supermop_home> i can do this: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/ppwrnsuul 16:58:15 <supermop_home> what if i want something for half full? 16:59:01 <supermop_home> do I do [empty, half, full] 16:59:02 <supermop_home> ? 17:00:16 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:00:22 <supermop_home> :( 17:00:35 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:07:50 <frosch123> supermop_home: yes 17:08:14 <frosch123> though i believe we concluded that it is better to duplicate the cases in the middle 17:08:36 *** kais58 has quit IRC 17:08:39 <frosch123> so that empty and full are closer to "really empty" and "really full" 17:08:48 <supermop_home> like [empty, half, half, full]? 17:08:52 <frosch123> yes 17:08:59 <supermop_home> ok 17:09:19 <frosch123> andythenorth my actually know better though 17:09:25 <frosch123> *may 17:09:47 <andythenorth> I will look at the nml code generated :P 17:09:53 * andythenorth never writes nml 17:10:59 <andythenorth> hmm 17:11:00 <andythenorth> switch (FEAT_ROADVEHS, SELF, jinglepot_switch_graphics_percent_loaded_0_0, cargo_count*100/cargo_capacity) { 17:11:07 <andythenorth> I ignored loaded / loading 17:11:30 <andythenorth> what’s the reason? 17:11:42 <andythenorth> it’s so that full load state isn’t shown until 100% is reached 17:11:50 <andythenorth> 1-99% shows partial load 17:12:06 <andythenorth> otherwise it’s irritating wondering why the truck doesn’t leave the station 17:12:08 <frosch123> so you were too tired to duplicate items in the list :) 17:12:15 *** kais58 has joined #openttd 17:12:45 * andythenorth turned off the vehicle station % loading indicators some time ago, and just relies on vehicle cargo sprites 17:13:01 <andythenorth> I probably play a very different game to most people 17:16:55 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:19:46 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 17:23:26 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 17:35:17 <supermop_home> need to draw a little capsule tower capsule for bdmt on flatbeds 17:41:37 <supermop_home> will need your switch for containers though 17:41:43 <supermop_home> the onther way around 17:42:07 <supermop_home> don't want to see 20% container carriers driving around empty 17:45:46 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27872 trunk/src/lang/swedish.txt (2017-05-13 19:45:37 +0200 ) 17:45:47 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints: 17:45:48 <DorpsGek> swedish: 19 changes by Joel_A 18:28:23 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest95 18:28:32 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:28:46 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 18:28:48 <supermop_home> now i need to come up with like 20 new truck names 18:29:21 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 18:29:26 <andythenorth> Supercheese: o/ 18:33:31 *** Guest95 has quit IRC 18:37:53 <andythenorth> ach never mind, the station names switch can die 18:57:20 <supermop_home> name a truck andy 19:01:53 <andythenorth> ‘andy’ 19:02:04 <supermop_home> fine 19:02:12 <andythenorth> stannage 19:02:18 <andythenorth> torwood 19:02:32 <andythenorth> tusker 19:02:57 <andythenorth> stallion 19:03:05 <andythenorth> lugmore 19:03:14 <andythenorth> hardacre 19:03:20 <supermop_home> haha 19:03:23 <supermop_home> lugmore 19:03:35 * andythenorth bbl 19:03:37 *** andythenorth has 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https://paste.openttdcoop.org/phosmux1l 22:32:16 <supermop_home> can someone help me find an illegal ' ' in that switch? 22:32:22 <supermop_home> nmlc says there is one 22:40:23 <Eddi|zuHause> aside from that error, you're missing the case where a cargo has both class liquid and bulk 22:41:01 <glx> in the comment ? (but seems wrong ;) ) 22:41:18 <supermop_home> in the case that something is both, I could live with default capacity 22:42:21 <supermop_home> it says ' ' (character code 0xA0) 22:42:27 <supermop_home> i assume that means a space 22:42:45 <Eddi|zuHause> normal space is 0x20 22:42:52 <Eddi|zuHause> 0xA0 is a nbsp 22:43:13 <Eddi|zuHause> which the compiler probably does not like 22:43:13 <supermop_home> hmm how'd that get in there? 22:43:32 <supermop_home> I guess I'll delete every space in the line a re-type it? 22:44:32 <Eddi|zuHause> on some systems you can hit alt+space or something to get a nbsp 22:46:45 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, you can do a hexdump to find the 0xA0 22:49:19 <supermop_home> re typing the spaces worked 23:08:46 *** gelignite has quit IRC 23:12:20 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:12:28 <supermop_home> hmm now I have an unexpected end of file 23:16:51 <Wolf01> Back, great evening at the pub :D 23:17:23 <Wolf01> Lol, great netsplit evening here XD 23:28:02 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:46:45 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 23:46:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 23:53:44 *** tokai has quit IRC