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Log for #openttd on 14th June 2017:
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07:11:44  <peter1138> Fetched 510 MB in 58s (8,682 kB/s) ... oh the hardship
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07:28:05  <Eddi|zuHause> i remember when 510MB was larger than my entire HDD
07:30:31  <peter1138> indeed
07:30:45  <peter1138> although that was 20 years ago
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07:47:37  <Eddi|zuHause> i also remember trying to squeeze civ2 from CD onto that HDD, until i realized that it worked also without the wonder movies
07:47:51  <Eddi|zuHause> (and the wonder movies didn't play anyway for some reason)
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07:50:29  <Wolf01> o/
07:59:10  <peter1138> i remember waiting ages for civ 1 to generate the map
08:01:10  <Wolf01> I had the same problem with other games, then I changed pc...
08:01:18  <Eddi|zuHause> i think that was worse in colonization
08:01:47  <Wolf01> Also, it seem that work is looking for me
08:02:08  <Eddi|zuHause> but maybe i played civ 1 mostly with earth map
08:02:29  <Eddi|zuHause> i called in sick
08:08:58  <Wolf01> I'm the only one which can get up sick at morning like a hangover, I didn't drink this night..
08:16:10  <Eddi|zuHause> i can't even really describe how i feel... it was like, as soon as i opened my eyes, i felt like i was falling over (even though i was laying down)
08:16:28  <Eddi|zuHause> and i feel incredibly dizzy
08:18:12  <Wolf01> Headache and stomachache here
08:19:17  <Wolf01> It will pass in a hour, like the other times
08:20:41  <Wolf01> Also I should shower, work might be calling for a talk
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09:33:21  <Wolf01> Mmmh, empire earth non collaborating :/
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12:17:25  <andythenorth> supermop_home: https://www.instagram.com/top_of_water_tower/
12:17:29  <andythenorth> that is all
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12:24:42  <Wolf01> Spammers
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15:29:59  <debdog> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7162171/40c4eb3e/opa_heeft_epische_trein_in_zijn_achtertuin.html
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15:35:49  <Alberth> o/
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15:41:05  <supermop> yo
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15:50:04  <Wolf01> o/
15:51:30  <supermop> any lego news?
15:52:07  <Wolf01> No
15:54:30  <supermop> :(
15:55:00  <supermop> i wish i lived somewhere with enough room to have all my bins and bins of lego that are in my parents basement
15:55:53  <planetmaker> \o
15:55:58  <Alberth> o/
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15:56:35  <planetmaker> supermop, I might actually want one lego box: https://shop.lego.com/de-DE/LEGO-NASA-Apollo-Saturn-V-21309 :P
15:56:39  <planetmaker> not yet available, though
15:58:24  <Wolf01> Eh, I have one :P
15:58:33  <Alberth> a 3D puzzle, but they give a manual :)
15:58:47  <planetmaker> ^^ :)
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16:11:33  <supermop> planetmaker: be like wolf and buy a saturn V because a train is too expensive
16:12:16  <supermop> tiny lunar lander is cute
16:12:42  <supermop> command capsule in water looks a bit boring though if it is just one cone piece
16:13:32  <supermop> do all the stages separate?
16:13:51  <supermop> i had a really complex styrene saturn v model when i was a kid
16:14:09  <supermop> was about 50-60cm tall
16:14:45  <supermop> you could build it with the stages separated if you wanted
16:15:01  <Alberth> buy two :)
16:15:59  <supermop> https://hlj.com/product/REV04805F
16:16:20  <supermop> could have been that but i don't recall it being as big as 114 cm
16:18:15  <supermop> Alberth: looks like you can separate the stages on the lego one
16:18:58  <Alberth> it's 1900 pieces, so yeah, I guess it can do something :)
16:19:54  <Alberth> a hollow tube of 1m doesn't need that many pieces :)
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16:26:06  <supermop> Alberth: look at the vent pieces on the tube tho
16:26:12  <supermop> that's a lot right there
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16:28:10  <supermop> aha another legoman appears
16:32:40  <frosch123> hoi
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16:38:52  <Alberth> hola
16:39:50  <andythenorth> isn’t it
16:42:58  <Alberth> yes
16:51:15  <andythenorth> is FIRS 3 then?
16:51:21  <andythenorth> or not yet?
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17:01:39  <Alberth> I downloaded it yesterday, have to start a game
17:01:47  <Alberth> any economy you want tested?
17:02:23  <andythenorth> Arctic Basic, which has a few oddities, but eh
17:02:29  <andythenorth> or Steeltown, but I think that’s done done done
17:02:44  <andythenorth> ideally I don’t make any more economies in 2017 :)
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17:04:11  <supermop> andythenorth: ive tested arctic and steeltown so far
17:04:22  <Alberth> steel town seemed fine the last time I played it, I'll try some arctic basic
17:04:35  <stefino> hi
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17:30:50  <Alberth> peatlands in the snow?  would be a bit frozen, wouldn't it? :p
17:30:57  <Alberth> not to mention not so wet :p
17:32:52  <Alberth> industry minimap industry colours looks fine
17:35:36  <andythenorth> I thought about banning peat above snowline
17:35:37  <andythenorth> but eh
17:35:38  <andythenorth> nah
17:36:01  * andythenorth not sure about minimap colours yet
17:36:12  <andythenorth> at least automating means I don’t have to make decisions :)
17:40:08  <Alberth> quite big industry, top of mountain is nicely flat :p
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17:48:04  <Alberth> pyrite ore mine is just splendid :)
17:54:12  <Alberth> paper mill colour is quite close to water colour
18:08:05  <Alberth> nice yellow sulphur colour in new chips :)
18:11:05  <andythenorth> yup
18:11:23  <andythenorth> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6RG-yt868QU/Ubi3URwFtyI/AAAAAAAAB4I/dQmL-dna-6A/s1600/great%2Bpyramids%2Bof%2Balberta-749064.jpg
18:16:46  <Alberth> wow :)
18:18:40  <Alberth> wood production seems much higher than pyrite ore
18:26:35  <andythenorth> it’s quite dependent on randomisation when industry is built
18:26:40  <andythenorth> I wonder if it’s a bit high
18:27:33  <andythenorth> base is 20 for pyrite mine, 24 for forest
18:27:48  <andythenorth> maybe should shade that down to 22 or so
18:28:51  <Alberth> nothing wrong with having a quantity difference, imho
18:30:06  <andythenorth> you’re getting about 300t, without supplies?
18:30:20  <supermop> andythenorth: i am sure it snows in finland sometimes
18:35:48  <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/ind_window.png
18:36:13  <andythenorth> Alberth: looks about right
18:37:59  <andythenorth> seems I boosted production in arctic, because wood can go to both paper mill and sawmill
18:38:02  <andythenorth> so you want a lot of it
18:38:10  <andythenorth> sawmill is only there for silly realisms
18:38:25  <Alberth> haven't tried that one
18:38:41  <andythenorth> wood -> lumber -> has to go to the Ikea factory :P
18:38:41  <Alberth> but someone built the papermill at the wrong side of the mountain :p
18:38:48  <andythenorth> tunnels
18:39:18  <Alberth> you can go around at both sides :)
18:40:24  <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/papermill.png
18:44:39  <supermop> that's no mountain
18:48:57  <Alberth> it is for a train
18:52:35  <Wolf01> I'll go out, or I'll sleep sitting here
18:53:29  <Alberth> have fun!
18:58:33  <Alberth> HEQS 0.7.1 known broken on cb 0x23 ? (returns unknown/invalid 0xcb0) while opening the RV list of available vehicles
19:07:11  <frosch_> heqs is probably older than those checks
19:08:53  <frosch_> it probably worked in ottd 1.0
19:09:26  <Alberth> I can see that happening indeed
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19:35:44  <andythenorth> upgrade HEQS? o_O
19:36:12  <andythenorth> Alberth: that is *not* a mountain :D
19:47:36  <Alberth> ok :)
19:49:22  <Alberth> :O  I use an old heqs, sorry
19:51:04  <Alberth> ha, useful ports are on an island :p
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19:54:38  <andythenorth> I like island ports :)
19:54:46  <andythenorth> I don’t like the ports in little lakes :P
19:57:13  <andythenorth> such sub-arctic http://www.railpictures.net/photo/619937/
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20:07:33  <supermop> Alberth: this is a mountain: https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1145524#p1145524
20:08:38  <andythenorth> :o
20:12:19  <Alberth> ha :)
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20:29:37  <supermop> i blame andy for spawning mines on top of mountains
20:30:08  <sim-al2> clearly they should level the mountain off instead
20:31:26  <glx> or dig the map
20:32:02  <Alkel_U3> supermop: from the bits that map looks good - is that a heightmap or a random one?
20:32:13  <supermop> random
20:32:16  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, so unrealistic. no mine was ever on a mountain
20:32:46  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: the shape of the mountain it would have been easier to dig in from the side
20:32:48  <Alkel_U3> the player-built features also look great :-)
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