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Trackpad multitouch on my laptop stopped working every odd update on ubuntu to start working again on the next update (or reinstalling the drivers) 10:04:43 *** cosmobird_ has joined #openttd 10:05:35 <__ln___> Wolf01: i've seen ubuntu being broken in many many ways, but the situation Eddi described didn't involve ubuntu crap 10:07:25 <Wolf01> Clearly is a software problem, if it was a hardware problem it wouldn't work at all 10:10:16 <LordAro> if only it were so easy 10:10:30 <LordAro> i've seen enough intermittent hardware faults to never rule it out 10:10:33 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 10:11:35 <Wolf01> I've only seen macbook trackpads stop working because the battery inflated and bent the case 10:11:45 <Wolf01> But they stopped working entirely 10:29:10 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 10:29:31 <V453000> =D modded the shit out of factorio yesterday 10:29:38 <V453000> it's retarded(ly) fun 10:36:32 <Wolf01> How is the modding status for 0.15? 10:37:08 <V453000> fine? :D 10:37:33 <Wolf01> All mods already compatible? 10:38:30 <V453000> well it's never going to be all, but all of the ones people care about, sure 10:38:33 <V453000> it's been that way for a while, really 10:38:49 <V453000> in fact people are starting to come up with random retarded shit now, useful stuff not much lately 10:39:11 <Wolf01> I go for bob's inserters and ion cannon 10:39:34 <Wolf01> Still no belt divider? 10:39:35 <V453000> well I didn't use these in 0.15 but I saw them on the mod portal 10:39:58 <V453000> no need for belt divider, the graphics might hint at the functionality of UG belt a bit more 10:39:59 <V453000> is enough 10:42:00 <Wolf01> I've built so many of those UG belt contraptions that now I just want to do it with one click 10:42:26 <Wolf01> My current factory is filled with dividers and lane switchers 10:46:34 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 10:50:47 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 11:21:32 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 11:24:12 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 11:53:05 *** APTX has quit IRC 11:54:16 *** APTX has joined #openttd 12:00:28 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 12:01:06 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 12:17:03 *** Eddi|nichZuHause has quit IRC 12:26:59 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 12:28:57 *** Thomas[m]2 has joined #openttd 12:39:06 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 13:06:48 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 13:07:06 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 13:24:22 *** nekomaster has joined #openttd 13:24:25 <nekomaster> Herpderp 13:27:50 *** Smedles has quit IRC 13:31:51 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 13:48:41 <V453000> gg 13:48:50 <nekomaster> Hello 13:49:49 <V453000> yo 13:49:58 <nekomaster> sup? 13:50:23 <V453000> trains exploding, slug world domination plan becoming reality? 13:57:39 <Flygon> Slug World Domination? 13:57:49 <Flygon> Didn't they drop that and replace it with the Borg? 13:57:54 <nekomaster> Lol 13:58:05 * Flygon hi-fives nekomaster 13:58:21 * nekomaster hi-fives Flygon! 13:58:24 <nekomaster> :D 13:58:45 <Flygon> YES! 13:58:46 <Flygon> :D 13:58:53 <nekomaster> OUI! 13:59:52 <V453000> nope, slugs it is 13:59:56 <V453000> future is clear 14:00:20 <nekomaster> What about flying slugs? or are you going to continue to limit their journey to pre planed paths 14:00:23 <nekomaster> (aka rails) 14:00:52 <V453000> flying, swimming, transforming, devouring all 14:00:58 <nekomaster> heh 14:00:59 <V453000> there is no end 14:01:09 <nekomaster> just so long as they continue to transport my coffee and beer, i'm good 14:01:26 <V453000> it will be theirs at that point, but sure 14:01:39 <nekomaster> :p 14:06:48 <Flygon> Well 14:06:49 <Flygon> I mean 14:06:56 <Flygon> The alternative is that it's the Animorphs verse 14:06:57 <Flygon> But 14:07:01 <nekomaster> Hmm? 14:07:04 <Flygon> I can't accept Rachel dying 14:07:13 <nekomaster> last I saw Animorphs mentioned where the books as a kid 14:07:32 <nekomaster> Not that I really read much books when I was younger 14:07:48 <nekomaster> I've never really been a book person 14:08:38 <Flygon> I read books ALL the time. 14:08:44 <Flygon> Not much else to do as a kid. 14:08:56 <nekomaster> I had game consoles and things to do outside 14:09:07 <nekomaster> and once i learned how to ride a bike I was riding all over town 14:09:25 <nekomaster> even figured out how to get to the Oshawa beach and the north end within a week 14:09:50 <nekomaster> I want from falling off bikes to covering most of Oshawa by bike at 12 years old 14:28:00 <Flygon> I was broke. 14:29:54 <nekomaster> I've always been broke 14:30:06 <nekomaster> just my dad figures out ways to get things 14:33:36 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:37:23 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 14:42:23 <supermop> laking motivation to finish tiny truck beds for early trucks 14:42:45 <supermop> really only fit one crate, which looks stupid 14:42:54 <supermop> or like 2 sheep in open truck 14:43:22 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 14:43:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 14:43:32 <Alberth> o/ 14:43:47 <supermop> yo 14:44:06 <supermop> also i am at work right now so can't really draw anyway 14:44:08 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 14:44:09 <supermop> but 14:44:21 <supermop> feel like this set will never get to 1.0.0 14:50:03 <supermop> maybe i shouldn't shorten the logs and show them hanging off the back of the truck 14:50:51 <Alberth> but it's so simple, just declare it finished, add a nice label "1.0.0", and done! 14:51:17 <nekomaster> I wont declare my stuff a proper version number until I'm sure most stuff has been tested 14:51:29 <nekomaster> thus is why the NARS Add-on set uses the revision system 14:51:40 <nekomaster> many things can change while I'm coding and doing stuff 14:51:59 <nekomaster> which is why sometimes the minimum comptaitlbe version changes because I did something that would fuck up a new game 14:52:00 <supermop> Alberth: more things i want to do 14:52:01 <nekomaster> er 14:52:03 <nekomaster> old save game 14:52:18 <Alberth> supermop nobody said you can't have a 2.0.0 :p 14:52:37 <supermop> maybe 1.0 won't have trams 14:53:49 <supermop> need to 'finish' so i can do some more work on fixing unspooled 14:54:29 <FLHerne> "Even internal alphas have undergone more scrutiny than this program. It is only my boundless hubris that allows me to call this 'version 1.0'." -- Shamus Healey 14:54:40 <FLHerne> Er, Shamus Young 14:55:01 <FLHerne> (the keys are right next to each other) 14:55:33 <supermop> apparently the author name underwent the 1.0 amount of scrutiny and not the internal alpha mount.... 14:56:08 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:00:46 <FLHerne> Hah 15:05:37 *** cosmobird has joined #openttd 15:07:44 *** cosmobird__ has joined #openttd 15:09:04 <supermop> as did my spelling of 'amount' 15:11:18 *** cosmobird_ has quit IRC 15:13:52 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 15:14:12 *** cosmobird_ has joined #openttd 15:18:14 *** nekomaster has left #openttd 15:20:34 *** cosmobird__ has quit IRC 15:29:43 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 15:52:11 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 15:54:45 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 15:59:03 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 16:06:37 <frosch123> hmm, ./bin/factorio does not start openttd 16:07:45 <Alberth> :D 16:07:50 <Alberth> sort-of it does 16:08:07 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:31:11 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27883 trunk/src/console.cpp (2017-06-22 18:31:04 +0200 ) 16:31:12 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6576]: Console command parser passed invalid strings to the debug output, if command lines had many parameters. 16:32:56 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27884 trunk/src/console.cpp (2017-06-22 18:32:50 +0200 ) 16:32:57 <DorpsGek> -Fix: Console command parser failed when the command had many parameters, and also did not print any error messages about it. 16:43:56 *** synchris has joined #openttd 16:47:20 *** synchris has quit IRC 16:47:54 *** synchris has joined #openttd 16:57:12 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27885 /trunk/src/pathfinder/yapf (yapf_costrail.hpp yapf_type.hpp) (2017-06-22 18:57:06 +0200 ) 16:57:13 <DorpsGek> -Cleanup (r27844): ESR_MAX_COST_EXCEEDED and ESR_PATH_TOO_LONG meant the same thing, but only one was used. Keep PATH_TOO_LONG since it has the better documentation. 17:00:05 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:00:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:01:08 *** gnu_jj_ has quit IRC 17:02:11 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 17:16:50 *** zeta has quit IRC 17:25:33 *** roidal has joined #openttd 17:29:59 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27886 trunk/src/fileio.cpp (2017-06-22 19:29:53 +0200 ) 17:30:00 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6575-ish]: Do not modify argv[0]. 17:35:28 *** DDR has quit IRC 17:36:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:38:40 *** DDR has joined #openttd 18:04:23 *** Montana has joined #openttd 18:14:10 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 18:15:21 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 18:17:45 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:27:40 <frosch123> is there a reason we have project files for msvc 2010 and 2015, but not for 2012 and 2013? 18:29:09 <Eddi|zuHause> is there a point in having them for each? can't they be loaded anyway? 18:29:28 <frosch123> that's no answer but a rewording of my question :p 18:33:51 <Eddi|zuHause> answers rarely end with a question mark 18:38:39 <Wolf01> <Eddi|zuHause> is there a point in having them for each? can't they be loaded anyway? <- yes but VS tries to update the old project file and usually fails and break it, and puts a lot of new files too 18:52:20 *** synchris has quit IRC 18:57:17 *** zeta has joined #openttd 18:59:54 *** zeta has quit IRC 19:02:39 *** zeta has joined #openttd 19:08:08 <supermop> what are some nice alternatives to big rolls for copper 19:09:23 *** zeta has quit IRC 19:11:25 <supermop> http://kpho.images.worldnow.com/images/19710739_BG2.JPG 19:12:20 <supermop> maybe pipe or rod 19:13:47 <Alberth> plates? 19:15:06 <frosch123> high voltage transformers 19:17:24 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 19:23:54 *** zeta has joined #openttd 19:25:12 *** Montana has quit IRC 19:25:43 *** zeta has quit IRC 19:27:28 *** zeta has joined #openttd 19:28:24 <supermop> https://imgur.com/Qkai24I 19:31:24 *** roidal has quit IRC 19:35:53 <frosch123> liquid aluminium 19:36:02 <frosch123> i can't tell whether that is dangerous or not 19:36:47 <frosch123> i.e. does it burn, or does it stop itself from burning 19:38:04 <supermop> aluminum burns easily as a powder but actually doesn't oxidize that fast otherwise 19:38:35 <supermop> you can cast aluminum without the surface really visibly burning 19:39:23 <supermop> when you do small casts of it you get a bit of oxide on the surface but no visible flame really 19:41:27 <supermop> http://imgur.com/a/iLGIJ 19:41:43 <supermop> brown paper on outside of paper rolls? 19:48:08 <frosch123> looks like paper to me 19:48:22 <frosch123> i guess something brown would make it look metally 19:48:26 <frosch123> like bronce 19:49:09 <frosch123> not sure, but maybe the rolls should be longer 19:51:47 <frosch123> http://www.gemeinde-root.ch/de/images/4d0b5ce3f1ab2.jpg <- i expected something like that 19:52:56 <frosch123> http://www.marotech.de/typo3temp/pics/Trainer_Beratertag_Papierrollen_8c55e73dd9.jpg <- apparently there are also smaller ones 19:59:18 <supermop> i see brown wrapped ones about 80cm wide and 80 cm diameter sitting on the sidewalk outside of print shops in chinatown here 19:59:24 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 19:59:42 <supermop> i guess brown paper also needs to be delivered 20:01:36 <supermop> the short trucks only hold 1 pallets graphically, so instead of more loading stages, i am using the extra rows to show variants of the cargo 20:01:45 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:10:00 *** Montana has joined #openttd 20:11:56 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:17:08 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:38:12 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:53:04 *** Compu has quit IRC 20:58:23 *** Gja has quit IRC 21:10:00 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:20:48 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 21:23:51 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:29:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:06:33 *** tokai has joined #openttd 22:06:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 22:13:37 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 22:15:34 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 22:27:06 *** cosmobird_ has quit IRC 22:31:57 *** innocenat has quit IRC 22:32:17 *** innocenat has joined #openttd 22:39:27 *** Montana has quit IRC 22:56:27 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:13:25 *** fiatjaf has quit IRC 23:15:00 *** fiatjaf has joined #openttd 23:20:26 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 23:26:43 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:28:40 *** greeter has quit IRC 23:28:44 *** greeter has joined #openttd 23:40:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 23:55:20 *** Flygon has joined #openttd