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I will probably turn some trees into rocks or grass patches 07:01:35 <andythenorth> is unique look 07:01:36 <V453000> kind of hate grass patches though 07:01:53 <andythenorth> have grass fire 07:02:01 <andythenorth> and yeti with fire hose 07:02:07 <andythenorth> landscape is just...flames 07:02:49 <V453000> XD 07:02:55 <andythenorth> http://cdn.acidcow.com/pics/20130110/acid_picdump_19.jpg 07:03:23 <V453000> nice 07:03:55 <V453000> btw I was editing it to get a nicer conversion XD when the trees were darker the conversion looked more fucked 07:04:06 <V453000> it looks better overall though 07:04:51 <andythenorth> consistent tones eh 07:04:57 <andythenorth> don’t really want to notice trees 07:06:04 <andythenorth> is background foreground or is foreground background? Blah blah 07:06:14 <V453000> wot :D 07:06:18 <V453000> ah 07:06:26 <V453000> well I think trees are something in the middle 07:06:27 <V453000> GG 07:06:51 <V453000> terrain-trees-tracks-trains-gui 07:09:14 <andythenorth> “background is foreground” is some art quote 07:09:32 <andythenorth> I think it means - what’s behind the main subject, makes the main subject appear 07:09:48 <andythenorth> in game, main subject is…TRAINS 07:10:07 <andythenorth> also SHIPS 07:15:35 <V453000> yez I understand 07:15:37 <V453000> iz 07:15:56 <V453000> you don't want to see what I am going to do to ships 07:15:58 <V453000> you just wait 07:29:27 * andythenorth “k thanx bai” 07:29:49 * andythenorth bbl today or tomorrow…stuff to do :) 07:30:01 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:30:50 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttd 07:57:35 *** Progman has quit IRC 08:17:39 *** supermop_home has joined #openttd 08:19:38 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 08:20:00 <Wolf01> Moin 08:20:35 *** supermop_home has quit IRC 08:21:31 *** _3298 has joined #openttd 08:40:46 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 09:40:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 09:40:41 *** Celestar1 has joined #openttd 09:45:07 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 09:45:23 *** Celestar has quit IRC 11:08:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 11:16:14 <V453000> XD some time ago I was making a simple research on which tree goes where 11:16:20 <V453000> obviously most of it was wrong XD 11:16:26 <V453000> well not most 11:16:43 <V453000> but the thresholds of IDs between climates are borkd 11:20:18 <Wolf01> Yes 11:21:01 <Wolf01> Fuck I want an inline diff on VS 11:21:11 <Wolf01> Like the one on PHPStorm 11:21:31 <Wolf01> Maybe resharper has it... but 120€ license fuck me 11:25:17 <LordAro> Wolf01: have you tried CLion? 11:25:35 <Wolf01> Doesn't do c# 11:26:11 <LordAro> ah 11:26:37 <Wolf01> And it costs just 89€ 11:27:18 <Wolf01> I'm considering the all-in-one pack for 250€... when I'll find a job which pays 11:27:18 *** pdoan has joined #openttd 11:27:29 <Wolf01> I already have PHPStorm 11:38:58 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 11:50:40 <Wolf01> Quak 11:50:52 <frosch123> hoi 11:52:07 <LordAro> o/ 11:54:42 <Wolf01> I should work with alberth to make a UI designer which generates the NWidget structure 11:59:11 *** supermop has joined #openttd 12:07:15 *** supermop has quit IRC 12:13:03 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27899 trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp (2017-08-26 14:12:59 +0200 ) 12:13:04 <DorpsGek> -Feature: Draw vertical separators at tile distance in the train depot GUI. This only applies if all vehicles use consistent lengths, i.e. either if only using default vehicles, or if only using NewGRF vehicles with 32px reference width. (based on patch by Wolf01) 12:13:48 <Wolf01> Andy would be happy ;) 12:15:20 <Wolf01> @summon andythenorth, alberth 12:43:29 <LordAro> :o 12:52:13 *** pdoan has quit IRC 13:00:58 *** APTX has quit IRC 13:48:48 *** APTX has joined #openttd 13:52:00 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 13:55:05 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:11:57 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 14:19:14 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:46:36 *** pdoan has joined #openttd 15:10:47 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 15:26:19 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 15:31:54 <Wolf01> ;o; I forgot how to develop in javascript 15:43:27 *** luxtram has quit IRC 15:46:00 *** Shoshonite has quit IRC 15:48:07 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 16:21:49 *** luxtram has joined #openttd 16:30:52 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 16:30:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 16:31:51 <Alberth> o/ 16:32:43 <frosch123> moi 16:37:01 <LordAro> /o 16:39:47 <peter1138> that setting used to be global anyway 16:39:55 <peter1138> confusing if it is no longer :S 16:40:30 <peter1138> if it isn't global now, how it does work with mixed consists? 16:42:05 <frosch123> it's per grf 16:42:13 <frosch123> every vehicle sets its own length 16:42:17 <frosch123> in depot 16:42:39 <frosch123> when mixed, every train looks fine on its own 16:42:55 <frosch123> but two trains may look differently long in depot when they have the same length 16:44:34 <frosch123> but shortened vehicles generally fail when not using 32px 16:44:55 <frosch123> since int(29/2) + int(29/2) != 29 16:45:09 <frosch123> you can see that in nuts 16:45:10 <frosch123> blame nuts 16:46:37 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 16:48:07 *** luxtram has quit IRC 16:59:27 *** pdoan has quit IRC 17:07:39 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:18:56 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 17:38:03 *** _3298 has quit IRC 17:45:34 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:45:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:07:50 *** _3298 has joined #openttd 18:40:32 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 18:40:39 <Wolf01> I hate so much when I config a thing and it doesn't follow what I set... :| 18:42:57 <Alberth> :( 18:49:59 <Wolf01> Alberth: how well do you remember the base mechanics of the UI? 18:50:34 <Wolf01> I would like to try to make a UI designer, at least to generate the base structure 19:02:26 *** Arveen2 has joined #openttd 19:07:26 *** Arveen has quit IRC 19:13:41 *** Gja has joined #openttd 19:14:05 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 19:14:58 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 19:26:03 <Alberth> it's not that difficult 19:26:36 <Alberth> not sure it's worth the trouble, but fair enough 19:31:27 *** Gja has quit IRC 19:32:58 <Alberth> line 666 widget.cpp, line 808 widget_type.h it is probably dated, so treat it as mostly describing the global idea, with pointers to a subset of the widgets 19:33:44 <Alberth> I didn't implement zooming, and scrollbars changed considerably afterwards 19:35:40 <peter1138> < frosch123> but two trains may look differently long in depot when they have the same length 19:35:43 <peter1138> that is wrong 19:35:51 <peter1138> that's why it was always global 19:36:27 <LordAro> that does seem pretty wrong 19:36:29 <peter1138> the global setting could be set by any grf 19:36:42 <peter1138> it wasn't meant to be a per-grf setting 19:38:03 <Alberth> Wolf01: the very first document is https://bugs.openttd.org/task/1905/getfile/4075/nwidgets.pdf dated from the time that nested widgets only existed at my computer 19:38:36 <LordAro> that is excessively detailed 19:38:36 <Wolf01> Good 19:38:38 <LordAro> i love it 19:38:53 <Alberth> :) 19:39:55 <Alberth> Space widget is somewhat obsolete, there are simpler methods now 19:40:19 <Alberth> main menu still is very much old-style iirc 19:42:24 <frosch123> peter1138: gaps between vehicles also look bad 19:43:27 <frosch123> also, 29px never worked correctly 19:43:53 <frosch123> 29 is not divideable by 8 or even by 2, so fractional length never add up to the whole 19:44:17 <frosch123> so with 29px "trains with same length have same depot length" never works 19:45:08 <frosch123> for example nuts early vehicles are 4/8+4/8 and shorter than the second generation 19:45:12 <frosch123> blame nuts btw :) 19:46:51 <frosch123> LordAro: see, back then patchers wrote pdf documents before they started coding :) 19:47:28 <LordAro> :) 19:49:05 <Alberth> filling is now much closer to resizing 19:58:08 <peter1138> gaps between is better than different lenghts 19:58:11 <peter1138> *lengths 19:58:33 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:58:45 <andythenorth> iz 19:59:25 <frosch123> haha, andy show up at the same time as a mail notification :p 19:59:35 <andythenorth> depot lines ;) 20:00:02 <andythenorth> anyone know who Stampy? 20:00:36 <frosch123> did you get the reopen request from george? 20:00:42 <andythenorth> yup, sorted 20:01:10 <andythenorth> got a pm from george with required/not for all his requests 20:01:22 <andythenorth> mostly required, but closed a few 20:03:59 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:08:16 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:09:06 <andythenorth> 402 FS left :) 20:09:27 * andythenorth has a tactic in work bug tracker 20:09:55 <andythenorth> "yes, but not a current goal (nobody will work on it" 20:10:15 <andythenorth> and then we set the bug tracker to hide those in queries :p 20:10:48 <andythenorth> and then it's more fun 20:11:40 <andythenorth> left alone, tickets tend to be opened faster than tickets can be closed 20:12:08 <andythenorth> fighting a losing war is very uninteresting :) 20:12:47 <_dp_> I think it's called "on hold" in some other trackers 20:14:22 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:15:03 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:15:50 <andythenorth> flakey client :x 20:16:26 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:17:13 <andythenorth> "on ice" was what I used 20:17:29 <andythenorth> now I just use "not in next 12 months" 20:17:42 <andythenorth> beyond then, who knows eh? :) 20:19:18 <andythenorth> I will lay a bet that none of https://bugs.openttd.org/task/2738 is done by 2019 :) 20:20:30 <LordAro> well with that kind of attitude, no, it won't 20:21:00 <_dp_> one more reason to redo subtile movement 20:21:46 <andythenorth> lordaro we should start a betting market on fs tasks :D 20:21:57 <andythenorth> peer-to-peer 20:23:16 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:24:07 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:25:31 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:29:39 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:29:52 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:30:09 <andythenorth> meh unstable connection :p 20:30:10 <andythenorth> bed 20:30:12 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:32:54 <Wolf01> Me too :( 20:32:59 <Wolf01> Fucking ISP 20:43:37 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 21:09:19 <peter1138> https://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/styles/564w/public/images/news-article/2017/08/892bc8b53b2aaa3a51fee87a5c010e38/royal_mail_arrival_truck_image_1_copy.jpg?itok=Tjg5ZVrF 21:09:37 <peter1138> definitely inspired by... 21:17:48 *** Geth has joined #openttd 21:23:52 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 21:35:20 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:39:35 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:51:37 *** _3298 has quit IRC 22:08:44 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:08:57 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 22:09:39 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 22:11:49 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttd 22:17:52 *** Geth has quit IRC 22:42:28 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:43:25 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 22:55:16 <Wolf01> Started 4 things today, got bored after 15 minutes on each one 22:59:34 *** Geth has joined #openttd 23:04:51 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 23:14:36 *** Geth has quit IRC 23:17:08 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:42:51 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 23:59:27 *** rellig has quit IRC