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Log for #openttd on 26th September 2017:
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05:52:27  <andythenorth> o/
06:06:52  <V453000> yea
06:06:55  <V453000> sup yo
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07:23:22  <twb> me again, back to trying to package bananas plugins without using the in-game loader
07:24:07  <twb> Beginner_Tutorial-17 wants import("util.superlib", "SuperLib", 27);
07:24:22  <twb> But I can only see SuperLib version 40
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07:56:59  <Breckett> hi
08:09:01  <LordAro> twb: generally they're backwards compatible
08:10:01  <twb> So should I just make like a symlink
08:24:58  <twb> I tried this and I got the same error as before:
08:25:04  <twb> root@inmate-1:~# ln -s SuperLib-40/ /usr/share/games/openttd/ai/library/SuperLib-36
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09:08:24  <Wolf01> o/
09:13:29  <crem> \o
09:15:43  <Wolf01> http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2017/09/25/when-youve-thought-of-everything-almost/ classic
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16:29:00  <_dp_> o/
16:29:17  <_dp_> is it possible to do multiplatform stations with only block signals?
16:30:19  <Wolf01> Yes, use 2 way signals at the entrances
16:30:47  <Wolf01> Also you might need presignals if you have more trains than platforms
16:31:16  <_dp_> but then if it's full next train will block on those signals
16:31:38  <Wolf01> No, you need to use presignals to avoid blocks
16:31:39  <_dp_> yeah, I know how to do it with presignals
16:32:12  <_dp_> I'm just wondering how is it supposed to be done in original TTD
16:32:20  <_dp_> it didn't have presignals iirc
16:33:03  <Wolf01> It worked the same as it would work now if you only use plain block signals
16:33:08  <_dp_> also wathed some mashinky videos and it seems to only have block signals as well
16:33:47  <_dp_> so it just didn't work
16:34:09  <_dp_> even roro stations are garbage with just block signals
16:34:09  <Wolf01> Block signals or PBS? Because almost all the latest games have PBS like signals
16:34:35  <Wolf01> For example TF has PBS like
16:34:39  <_dp_> doesn't look any pbs like to me
16:34:57  <_dp_> just regular block signal bs
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16:36:15  <_dp_> people playing it seem to have no idea how any of those work so it's hard to tell for sure
16:36:23  <_dp_> they just place signals randomly xD
16:36:59  <Wolf01> Meh, Halo Wars 2, they make me download 25GB of update and thet don't even give the latest DLC for free for season pass users :(
16:42:13  <Wolf01> BTW when will be possible to purchase and download Mashinky?
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16:52:35  <Wolf01> Quak
16:53:49  <Wolf01> Mmmh, no 2x2 curves in Mashinky, only 2x3 S curves and 3x3 curves
16:54:15  <frosch123> moo
16:58:58  <Eddi|zuHause> _dp_: people never have any idea how signals work, block or not
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17:03:16  <_dp_> Eddi|zuHause, I've seen some people who do :p
17:03:45  <Wolf01> Yes, people which is right here
17:04:13  <Wolf01> *are
17:04:18  <Rubidium> nice... I'm people ;)
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17:07:57  <frosch123> https://xkcd.com/1013/ <- just avoid the sheeple
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17:14:08  <Wolf01> Mmmh, 23€ Mashinky EA
17:14:35  <Wolf01> That or a lego for xmas
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18:24:42  <andythenorth> o/
18:26:26  <frosch123> ho
18:33:23  <andythenorth> quak
18:33:24  <andythenorth> and so on
18:34:20  <Eddi|zuHause> quark
18:34:35  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't have any, just pudding
18:35:05  <supermop_> surely there are some quarks in there
18:36:51  <supermop_> andythenorth: brown or grey floor?
18:36:53  <supermop_> https://imgur.com/a/POyqn
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18:41:06  <andythenorth> brown
18:41:12  <andythenorth> you’ll lose grey against the roof
18:41:21  <andythenorth> can you post 4x zoom sprites :P
18:41:29  * andythenorth has to copy-paste to photoshop to see them :)
18:42:41  <supermop_> haha
18:44:40  <V453000> :D
18:44:42  <V453000> x1 in a nutshell
18:46:06  <frosch123> andythenorth: ctrl +
18:46:26  <andythenorth> webkit is crap at that
18:46:33  <andythenorth> it interpolates images horribly
18:46:40  <andythenorth> optimised (ish) for photos
18:46:56  <andythenorth> zooming pixel art results in coloured blobs :P
18:48:53  <andythenorth> meanwhile
18:48:53  <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8640/horse_hopper_cars.png
18:49:08  <andythenorth> hopper cars such
18:49:12  <V453000> too bright
18:49:26  <V453000> & no noise in the gradient
18:49:46  <V453000> general design iz nice
18:50:04  <andythenorth> iz awesome
18:50:20  <andythenorth> shift all colours down one shade?
18:50:33  <andythenorth> sometimes horse sprites look too dark to me
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18:50:50  <V453000> yeah try 1 shade
18:51:02  <andythenorth> cars are too bright compared to engines
18:51:05  <andythenorth> ok
18:51:27  <V453000> but I think if you make it generally much noisier, then you can afford the full range
18:51:52  <V453000> having the brightest 2 indexes here and there alternating at the top
18:53:23  <andythenorth> gone right off noise
18:53:28  <andythenorth> generally looks like a mess
18:53:38  <V453000> well to a degree of course
18:53:42  <V453000> but this is just clean as fuck
18:54:57  <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/entry/gfx/RailWagons_3rd_Hopper.png
18:57:48  <andythenorth> Error: not automated
18:58:42  <V453000> yeah iz about pixels :P
18:59:45  <V453000> I think this kind of noisy non-linear gradients are not used enough in general
19:00:34  <Wolf01> Looks like plastic
19:04:39  <andythenorth> such lit
19:12:52  <V453000> well it's no masterpiece, just a demonstration of the concept
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20:48:35  <andythenorth> 7/8 is a terrible length
20:55:21  <V453000> discovery made
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