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00:05:21 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 00:17:23 <Wolf01> 'night 00:17:25 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 00:20:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 00:32:04 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 00:45:44 *** Montana has joined #openttd 00:59:35 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 01:45:03 *** glx has quit IRC 02:04:38 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 02:19:06 *** kais58 has quit IRC 03:27:41 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 04:51:04 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 04:51:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 05:09:15 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 05:11:50 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 05:45:29 *** orudge` has quit IRC 05:45:33 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 05:45:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 05:53:19 *** orudge` has quit IRC 05:53:23 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 05:53:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 06:13:18 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 06:14:07 *** Alberth has left #openttd 06:17:12 <andythenorth> o/ 06:17:36 *** orudge` has quit IRC 06:17:40 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 06:17:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 06:33:36 *** Montana has quit IRC 06:45:36 *** Montana has joined #openttd 06:47:32 *** Progman has joined #openttd 06:56:39 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 07:00:05 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 07:00:58 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 07:12:10 *** Cubey has quit IRC 07:22:20 *** orudge` has quit IRC 07:22:24 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 07:22:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 08:19:33 <andythenorth> silo car https://az95169.vo.msecnd.net/images/roco/large/L66838.jpg 08:19:38 <andythenorth> fun to draw :P 08:46:02 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 08:46:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 09:03:37 *** Progman has quit IRC 09:03:37 <Alberth> hi hi 09:04:00 <Alberth> yes, looks complicated to draw, but looks great in play 09:05:45 *** Progman has joined #openttd 09:06:08 <andythenorth> bbl 09:06:11 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:16:14 *** orudge` has quit IRC 09:16:18 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 09:16:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 09:25:57 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 09:30:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 09:36:31 <Alberth> o/ 09:38:23 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 09:38:26 <frosch123> lo 09:42:11 *** orudge` has quit IRC 09:42:15 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 09:42:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 09:53:55 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 09:56:51 *** orudge` has quit IRC 09:56:55 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 09:56:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 09:57:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 09:59:05 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 10:04:57 *** orudge` has quit IRC 10:05:16 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 10:05:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 10:16:59 *** Gja has joined #openttd 10:54:49 *** synchris has joined #openttd 11:10:10 *** Montana has quit IRC 11:42:30 *** synchris_ has joined #openttd 11:45:01 *** synchris has quit IRC 12:34:08 *** orudge` has quit IRC 12:34:15 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 12:34:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 12:37:02 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 12:50:58 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 13:15:49 *** orudge` has quit IRC 13:15:53 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 13:15:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 13:30:07 *** orudge` has quit IRC 13:30:15 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 13:30:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 13:32:44 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:37:00 <andythenorth> o/ 13:48:13 <Alberth> wb 13:53:48 <andythenorth> what did I miss? o_O 13:55:33 <LordAro> all the things 14:08:44 <V453000> you missed me not writing anything 14:09:23 <andythenorth> special 14:09:33 <andythenorth> shall I wreck FIRS or what? 14:09:43 <andythenorth> I have wrecked Sam, Horse and Hog 14:18:04 <V453000> does refit button ungrey even if the wagon can use only 1 cargo but with subtypes? it should right? 14:18:28 <V453000> and does it appear if the first unit does not have the subtypes and some articulated part does? 14:19:29 <LordAro> andythenorth: you unwrecked it? :o 14:20:38 <andythenorth> I shipped some alphas :P 14:20:49 <andythenorth> probably same 14:20:50 <V453000> shitted 14:27:55 <andythenorth> no new FS? o_O 14:27:59 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:33:59 <Alberth> wasn't sam supposed to be unsinkable/unwreckable? 14:35:12 <frosch123> like titanic 14:36:37 <andythenorth> yes 14:36:48 <andythenorth> it’s currently unplayable 14:36:50 <andythenorth> except by me 14:40:05 <Alberth> :o without having ice, even 14:41:51 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:46:38 <andythenorth> it works great in my games 14:46:50 <andythenorth> but the sprites are….of questionable quality :P 14:47:12 <supermop_home> I have been hamstrung trying to decide if yellow is a company color 14:48:12 <frosch123> leave it to the player? 14:48:27 <supermop_home> rather - I cant decide that 14:49:04 <supermop_home> whether it should be like a british train / original trains thing 14:49:51 <supermop_home> where some parts are painted yellow as a functional part of the vehicle, and you can have 2 colors of stripes or whatever separate from that 14:50:39 <supermop_home> like, should a tram with blue and green stripes be able to have yellow warning bits or doors 14:51:28 <supermop_home> I don't need to replicate real liveries, but I think blue+green+yellow actually looks pretty good 14:51:50 <supermop_home> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/KDR_Yarra_Trams_D_class..jpg 14:53:33 <supermop_home> also I wonder if it would be easier to use a layer of the sprite stack for liveries, and make the trams just all painted white 14:54:03 <andythenorth> I only use white and black as accent colours pretty much 14:54:05 <andythenorth> or grey 15:04:06 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest6255 15:04:06 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:08:43 <supermop_home> how does stacking cc work? 15:08:57 <supermop_home> do I just make a mask that is solid 1cc blue? 15:09:56 *** Guest6255 has quit IRC 15:12:46 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 15:22:24 <frosch123> for every vehicle sprite you can individually define the recolouring 15:22:40 <frosch123> so 1 sprite -> 2cc, 2 sprites -> 4cc 15:37:20 *** Gja has quit IRC 15:49:52 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 15:50:25 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 15:58:13 <andythenorth> such pixels 17:14:57 <supermop_home> drive on right trams wont show their doors open in info window 17:15:11 <supermop_home> so will never see open doors on _ view 17:16:28 <supermop_home> ok. all z class liveries drawn 17:16:56 <supermop_home> 8 liveries in both 2 and 3 door per side variants 17:17:10 <andythenorth> :) 17:17:14 <andythenorth> many and very 17:17:20 <supermop_home> plus 3 liveries for a fictitious 2-car Z 17:17:33 <supermop_home> and 1 for a 2-car cargo variant 17:18:09 <supermop_home> I might hide one of them as an easter egg 17:18:20 <supermop_home> or as preview period only 17:18:23 *** Snail has joined #openttd 17:22:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 17:23:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:23:50 <andythenorth> lo Snail 17:24:01 <Snail> hi andythenorth 17:26:53 <Snail> Andy, if I can make a request, please make vehicles deliverable to towns ;) 17:27:11 <Snail> I spent ages drawing cars on my wagons, and so far I can only use them in ECS 17:30:50 <andythenorth> Snail: you’re the 4th person to ask :) 17:31:08 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#steeltown 17:31:17 <andythenorth> so a vehicle dealership in town? 17:31:47 <Snail> yes, something like that 17:31:58 <Snail> it should be an industry, so it doesn’t pop up and then disappear randomly 17:32:07 <andythenorth> yup 17:32:29 <Snail> this way I can draw “vehicle bodies” as a stripped-down (and steel-colored) version of my cars 17:32:57 <andythenorth> yup 17:33:04 <andythenorth> V453000: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8672/horsey_covered_hoppers.png 17:33:46 <supermop_home> right hand drive z classes = 80 pngs 17:34:13 <andythenorth> :P 17:34:18 <andythenorth> that will kill your compile time :P 17:35:30 <supermop_home> gah damn I forgot the wheels 17:35:43 <supermop_home> ok time to export all of those all over again 17:42:01 <Arveen> what locomotive is that @ slot 3 and 4 ? 17:45:47 <andythenorth> new Iron Horse engine 17:46:13 <frosch123> oi, you drew the broken silo car 17:46:35 <andythenorth> you looking in the repo :P 17:46:51 <andythenorth> oh in the screenshot I see 17:46:58 <andythenorth> it was already drawn for UKRS 2 17:47:08 <andythenorth> but the sprite is 2px short for horse, scale is different 17:51:09 <andythenorth> such super realism on the 6/8 wagon https://kelvinsrailways.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/dscf4233.jpg?w=700 17:52:25 *** orudge` has quit IRC 17:52:29 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 17:52:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 18:06:01 <V453000> andythenorth: TWO WORDS 18:06:02 <V453000> FUCK YEAH 18:06:08 <V453000> yay for caps 18:06:09 <V453000> gg 18:06:13 <V453000> fits 18:06:25 <andythenorth> super duper 18:17:46 <V453000> these are really well done andy 18:17:52 <V453000> also has some noise 18:17:53 <V453000> I like it a lot 18:21:54 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 18:22:31 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 18:42:22 *** kais58 has joined #openttd 18:44:06 <V453000> can I use current_date to change train graphics? 18:44:07 <V453000> current_date No days since year 0 Use date(year, month, day) to compare with. 18:44:19 <supermop_home> yes 18:44:28 <V453000> and if yes, then how do I write it into a switch? the date(year,month,day) part? 18:44:48 <V453000> like date(1950,1,1):spriteset_1; ? 18:45:15 <supermop_home> I have a switch for that 18:45:20 <supermop_home> ill have to look at it 18:45:46 <V453000> can you please? :) 18:46:34 <frosch123> V453000: just use "current_year" 18:46:36 <frosch123> way easier 18:46:45 <V453000> ooo 18:47:04 <frosch123> and yes, you can use the current date for graphics 18:47:10 <frosch123> you cannot use current date for properties 18:47:35 <V453000> yes that is alright 18:47:49 <V453000> so something like 1950..1980: spriteset; will work? 18:47:56 <frosch123> yes 18:48:03 <V453000> awesome! thanks 18:48:45 <supermop_home> ok frosch123 beat me 18:49:11 <supermop_home> I use build_year to change sprites based on when purchased 18:49:26 <supermop_home> also to slightly increment hp 18:49:54 <andythenorth> gen 4 covered hopper is bad 18:50:04 * andythenorth fixing 18:50:32 <andythenorth> want something like this, but is all flat surfaces https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4369/37248224251_b81efcfb95_b.jpg 18:50:34 <andythenorth> hard to look good 18:52:32 <V453000> do vehicles have year_of_last_service or only date_of_last_service _ 18:52:34 <V453000> ? 18:55:50 <andythenorth> can probably work out year from date 18:57:24 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:57:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:58:43 <frosch123> you can also use date(y,m,d)..date(y,m,d) if you need to 18:58:55 <V453000> ahh 18:58:56 <V453000> nice 18:59:14 <frosch123> or you can divide by 365, and offset 2 years of missed leap days 18:59:52 <andythenorth> last two rows suck http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8673/horsey_covered_hoppers_blah.png 18:59:57 <andythenorth> a lot 19:00:04 <V453000> XD 19:01:03 <frosch123> andythenorth: make the tankers spherical at the end 19:01:16 <frosch123> then they look less like box vans 19:03:20 <V453000> do trains have something like purchase date? 19:03:35 <supermop_home> build_year 19:03:39 <V453000> so they wouldnt ever change in depots but just be as is forever, but based on the year look different? 19:03:39 <V453000> ah 19:03:47 <supermop_home> yep 19:04:44 <frosch123> http://www.on-rail.com/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_Zacns_95m__Mineral%C3%B6l_5d94b317eb.jpg <- andythenorth: also i like visible welding seams, though possibly too few pixels 19:05:02 <V453000> thasnk! :) 19:05:05 <andythenorth> on tankers? maybe 19:05:44 <frosch123> http://www.railwaygazette.com/uploads/pics/tn_sasol-tank-wagon.jpg <- no idea how that would look with pixels 19:05:49 <frosch123> probably doesn't work 19:05:58 <andythenorth> earlier gen has more seams http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8674/tanks_for_the_horsey.png 19:06:10 <andythenorth> later gen I need to revisit 19:07:00 <frosch123> earlier gen could look less integrated, i.e. "tank on flat bed wagon" 19:07:19 <frosch123> https://www.track-shack.com/acatalog/Bachmann-38-775-OO-Gauge-Class-A-14-Ton-Anchor-Mounted-Tank-Wagon-Benzene681.jpg 19:08:08 <frosch123> http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-28019-0-68992300-1460979154.jpg <- that's fancy 19:09:12 <andythenorth> might alternate seams between generations 19:09:12 <andythenorth> anchor mount is interesting 19:09:12 <andythenorth> usually they have diagonal braces 19:09:12 <andythenorth> which suck at pixel scale 19:10:36 <frosch123> http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/dccb09288d384c7f98043cd3ad6f2924/railway-tank-wagon-on-harbourside-bristol-england-uk-b3mh77.jpg <- i thought only in f you transport dangerous cargos en masse 19:12:44 <frosch123> but ok, it's no fluor 19:12:44 <andythenorth> why is my DNS failing :P 19:12:44 <andythenorth> brb 19:12:50 <andythenorth> ^^ that one is quite familiar :P 19:22:28 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 19:24:58 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 19:33:59 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 19:36:29 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:45:54 <andythenorth> V453000: better 19:45:54 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8675/horsey_covered_hoppers_2.png 19:46:01 <andythenorth> highlight is wrong, need to fix 19:46:17 <V453000> what 19:46:29 <V453000> the first four are nicer 19:46:31 <V453000> in the purchase menu 19:46:47 <andythenorth> yair 19:46:56 <andythenorth> but need later ones to look different 19:47:01 <V453000> k 19:47:19 <andythenorth> contrast is problem 19:47:20 <andythenorth> not working 19:47:26 <andythenorth> round things :P 19:50:46 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 19:50:58 *** Alberth has left #openttd 19:51:54 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 20:26:41 <andythenorth> V453000: contrast now out of stock 20:26:44 <andythenorth> all used up http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8676/horsey_covered_hoppers_3.png 20:27:16 <andythenorth> hoppers covered as AF 20:27:33 <V453000> much better 20:27:34 <V453000> AF 20:27:48 <andythenorth> one more fricking generation needed eh 20:27:59 * andythenorth hates the 2020 trains 20:30:17 <andythenorth> maybe something like https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/R6724_3204939_Qty1_1.jpg 20:47:25 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:51:07 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:56:25 *** synchris_ has quit IRC 20:59:11 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 21:02:45 <FLHerne> Yeah, those are cool 21:19:32 <andythenorth> such bedtime 21:19:33 <andythenorth> bye 21:19:33 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:21:55 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:26:29 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 21:50:57 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 21:55:37 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 22:30:50 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:43:13 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:59:18 *** orudge` has quit IRC 22:59:30 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 22:59:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 23:05:18 *** tokai has joined #openttd 23:05:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 23:12:18 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 23:39:20 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:40:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:56:02 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 23:57:42 *** Gernot2002 has joined #openttd