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Log for #openttd on 15th November 2017:
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09:00:13  <PressureLine> why are speed limited (train) orders not a thing?
09:14:34  <Eddi|zuHause> because they are?
09:15:06  <Eddi|zuHause> where you can set the loading/travelling times, you can also set a speed limit
09:33:12  <PressureLine> in timetable
09:33:19  <PressureLine> but not 'normal' orders
09:33:27  <PressureLine> anyway. poos then bed
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09:37:37  <Eddi|zuHause> sometimes i don't understand people
09:38:21  <Eddi|zuHause> "i want feature X" ... "feature X is there" ... "but i want feature X HERE"
09:38:43  <V453000> yes
09:38:45  <V453000> fuck people
09:50:09  <SpComb> sounds like an UI issue
09:50:46  <__ln__> *a UI issue
09:52:43  <Rubidium> everything is UI issue
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10:06:36  <V453000> or just U issue :P
10:07:04  <Rubidium> isn't that User Input?
10:07:21  <V453000> can be user's output :P
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11:58:24  <Samu> when we can't send aircraft to hangar, the summary message and detailed message are the same
11:59:22  <Samu> "Can't send aircraft to hangar... Can't send aircraft to hangar..."
12:04:49  <Samu> unable to find local hangar would fit well for detailed message
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15:18:51  <Alberth> o/
15:20:32  <Samu> hi :)
15:22:09  <Samu> check this https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p13ckykxj
15:23:02  <Samu> line30 to 50
15:25:57  <Samu> the original https://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/file/f4cc55fdf952/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp#l113
15:29:02  <Samu> this apparently is enough to prevent the aircraft from getting stuck at depot when servicing, automatic servicing,manual sent, etc...
15:29:08  <Samu> but it's a bit more strict
15:29:38  <Samu> only valid for aircraft with range
15:31:14  <Alberth> lines 42 to 50, the computations for next and current destination are independent, aren't they?
15:31:55  <Samu> sometimes there's only 1 destination
15:32:08  <Alberth> yes
15:32:31  <Alberth> but you can make it a sequence of checks, I think
15:33:23  <Alberth> if 'next is valid' and not 'next in range' continue;
15:33:23  <Alberth> if 'current is valid' and not 'current in range' continue;
15:33:31  <Alberth> or is that wrong?
15:34:11  <Alberth> you may want to deal with current first though as it's more logical to do before the next destination
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15:38:49  <Samu> trying to understand
15:40:36  <Samu> if cur_dest is valid, and distance > aircraft limit, continue
15:41:59  <Samu> if not, dont continue yet, but check next_dest
15:42:50  <Samu> if next_dest is not valid, continue anyway
15:44:11  <Samu> hmm, i'll eventually have to repeat code, for the case cur_dest not being valid at the start?
15:46:04  <Alberth> I don't know, it's very hard to read that code
16:07:43  <Samu> ok, gonna try rewriting it in another manner
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16:08:59  <Samu_> my connection, grrr
16:09:12  <stefino> hi, guys..if I send PM message here and user is offline, will the message show to him when he turn on? thx
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16:18:58  <Samu_> uint max_range = v->acache.cached_max_range_sqr;
16:19:12  <Samu_> this shall make code easier to the eyes :)
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16:40:32  <Samu_> Alberth: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/phdne9rqy
16:40:37  <Samu_> doesn't look much better
16:40:43  <Samu_> what do you say?
16:42:35  <LordAro> stefino: no
16:50:34  <Alberth> If you delete the == UINT_MAX comparison in lines 47 and 48, then line 46 is covered by those lines too, I think
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16:53:02  <Alberth> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pxkgvwdad covers all 3 lines
16:54:09  <Samu_> really? that simple?
16:54:23  <Alberth> I think so, but try it
16:54:50  <Alberth> it can be simplified further, but first this :)
16:55:33  <Samu_> testing
16:56:14  <Alberth> actually, reasoning about it is better
16:56:36  <Alberth> you have 8 cases
16:57:08  <Alberth> both current and bext can be a) invalid, b)valid and in range, c)valid and out of range
16:57:35  <Alberth> hmm, 8 cases make no sense :p
16:58:16  <Samu_> they can both be invalid
16:58:33  <Samu_> in that case, doesn't need to do a continue
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17:00:19  <johannes_> Hello, I wanted to install an openttd screensaver on Windows 7, but only found a forum article from 2008. Is this the only Windows compatible screensaver?
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17:06:20  <Samu_> seems to be working correclty Alberth
17:09:09  <Samu_> i'm planting random airports, to see what happens
17:09:22  <Samu_> and so far, no issues with dest too far
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17:15:13  <Samu_> i got some more code after this
17:16:51  <Samu_> automatic servicing is still behaving correctly
17:17:01  <Samu_> here's my code https://paste.openttdcoop.org/plmhkfy3k
17:17:50  <Samu_> line 42
17:17:59  <Samu_> is where FindNearestHangar is called
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17:19:15  <Samu_> it's subjected to another DistanceSquare checking, at line 49
17:19:53  <Alberth> ok
17:20:22  <Alberth> next simplification is to use 0 instead of UINT_MAX
17:20:47  <Alberth> since 0 is always in range, you don't need to check for UINT_MAX
17:24:40  <Samu_> I see
17:25:10  <Samu_> sometimes the distance is really 0
17:25:50  <Samu_> 0 > max_range is false
17:26:13  <Samu_> cur_dist != UINT_MAX
17:26:24  <Samu_> is also false, yeah, looks like you're right
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17:28:06  <Samu_> if (cur_dist > max_range || next_dist > max_range) continue;
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17:30:50  <Samu_> much prettier indeed
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17:34:48  <Alberth> o/
17:35:02  <frosch123> hoi
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18:08:18  <Wolf01> o/
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19:36:45  <Alberth> o/
19:36:51  <Wolf01> o/
19:37:18  <V453000> yo
19:37:29  <Wolf01> "Predictive Analytics with Python" might be interesting
19:44:14  <Alberth> what's Analytics here?
19:44:24  <Wolf01> https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning
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19:46:38  <Samu_> reading books, ugh...
19:46:55  <Samu_> not my strong point
19:47:05  <Wolf01> We noticed
19:47:07  <Alberth> I got that, but what is Analytics?  I can't place it
19:47:29  <Alberth> or Predictive Analytics, for that matter
19:48:04  <Wolf01> Data set analysis and prediction models based on what you got from the analysis?
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19:48:51  <Alberth> hmm, prediction models, that sounds useful
19:49:52  <Wolf01> Something like statistics I think
19:49:55  <Wolf01> Big data
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19:50:55  <Alberth> statistics would be boring, I know that :p
19:51:04  <Alberth> it's a predictive model though :p
20:01:46  <andythenorth> hi
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20:52:35  <johannes_> Hey, does anyone know an openttd screensaver for Windows 7? I found one in a forum, but this was from 2008
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22:10:53  <Wolf01> 'night
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