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00:02:16 <Samu> "By enabling this button, only aircraft matching the same type as the one selected for replacement are displayed" 00:02:29 <Samu> better? 00:02:35 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 00:03:08 <Samu> "By enabling this button, only aircraft of the same type as the one selected for replacement are displayed" 00:03:34 <Samu> where is the english expert!? :) a little help 00:03:59 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 00:07:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 00:08:28 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:13:36 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 00:13:54 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 00:20:16 *** Tirili has quit IRC 00:20:25 *** oskari89 has quit IRC 00:21:06 *** Tirili has joined #openttd 00:30:10 <Samu> cyas 00:30:15 *** Samu has quit IRC 00:42:01 *** Gja has quit IRC 00:46:12 *** HiddenKnowledge has joined #openttd 00:47:41 <HiddenKnowledge> Hello, I tried getting a patch to work but I couldn't get it to merge. I even tried doing it manually but the code looked very different in some of the places. 00:48:14 <HiddenKnowledge> So I figured maybe I should post in the forum to ask, but now I don't know where to post, should I post in the support forum or in the thread for the patch? 00:48:59 <HiddenKnowledge> The thread doesn't really say which version of openttd it's supposed to be merged with. 00:49:06 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 00:49:13 <HiddenKnowledge> It just says 'Trunk' 00:49:33 <HiddenKnowledge> But that could have been any version, obviously. 00:56:14 *** Tirili has quit IRC 00:59:16 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 01:01:31 *** tokai has quit IRC 01:04:51 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 01:07:15 *** tokai has joined #openttd 01:07:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 02:06:35 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 02:17:06 *** glx has quit IRC 02:27:46 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest790 02:27:46 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 02:32:27 *** Guest790 has quit IRC 03:24:09 <HiddenKnowledge> Are there any patches that cap the fast forward speed? I tried to look for one but couldn't find it. 04:57:45 *** HiddenKnowledge has quit IRC 05:04:22 *** Smedles has quit IRC 05:04:26 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 05:15:50 *** Smedles has quit IRC 05:16:20 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 05:24:08 *** Smedles has quit IRC 05:36:43 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 05:54:55 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 06:29:58 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 06:29:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 07:31:40 *** Progman has joined #openttd 08:04:59 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 08:17:10 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:17:20 <andythenorth> Road Hog is a song in original game music 08:17:23 <andythenorth> did not know that 08:25:11 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 08:26:56 *** stefino has joined #openttd 08:33:55 <Alberth> o/ 08:34:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i only remember "an alien ate my railway" 08:38:38 *** Progman has quit IRC 08:44:12 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 08:46:12 *** stefino has quit IRC 08:46:28 *** stefino has joined #openttd 08:49:11 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 09:28:56 *** synchris has joined #openttd 09:52:44 *** oskari89 has joined #openttd 10:01:11 <alluke> western metro opened finally after over year of delay 10:01:55 <alluke> could go drink beer there and test drive it 10:10:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 10:12:16 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 10:55:23 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 10:55:28 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:00:43 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 11:06:26 *** kaiserchief has joined #openttd 11:06:44 *** stefino has quit IRC 11:07:00 *** kaiserchief has quit IRC 11:25:02 *** Cubey has quit IRC 11:31:02 *** Gja has joined #openttd 11:39:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 12:03:29 *** Gja has quit IRC 12:17:15 *** Samu has joined #openttd 12:20:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 12:54:41 *** Gja has joined #openttd 13:09:27 *** oskari89 has quit IRC 14:27:51 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:34:39 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 14:56:42 *** gusta_000 has joined #openttd 14:57:49 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 15:00:57 <Samu> i'm failing to construct a widget 15:01:16 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 15:03:36 <Alberth> and it's so simple :( 15:05:16 <Samu> https://imgur.com/2K9tav9 15:05:19 <Samu> good vs bad 15:05:50 <Samu> i want that black hole to be filled with grey 15:08:05 <Samu> this->GetWidget<NWidgetStacked>(WID_RV_AIRCRAFT_ONLY)->SetDisplayedPlane(this->match_aircraft_type ? 0 : SZSP_HORIZONTAL); 15:08:28 <Samu> is it SZDP_HORIZONTAL or VERTICAL? 15:08:55 <Samu> SZSP 15:09:38 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 15:09:45 *** Mahjong1 has joined #openttd 15:10:15 <Samu> bah, vertical looks worse 15:10:22 <Samu> so, it must be somehwere else, halp 15:12:35 <Alberth> just make a widget, don't mess with widget sizes 15:13:03 <Alberth> ^ which is just 1-2 lines in the window widget tree 15:14:46 <Alberth> widget stacks are making changing window layout, way more advanced than you need, probably 15:14:54 <Alberth> *are for 15:15:50 <Samu> there's already one specifically for trains 15:16:05 <Samu> and other for the other vehicles 15:16:15 <Samu> do you mean i need to make one specifically for aircraft? 15:17:03 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 15:17:13 <Samu> that's too much copy paste 15:17:27 <Samu> that was the way I had before, i was trying to simplify it 15:18:39 <Samu> static WindowDesc _replace_rail_vehicle_desc( WDP_AUTO, "replace_vehicle_train", 500, 140, WC_REPLACE_VEHICLE, WC_NONE, WDF_CONSTRUCTION, _nested_replace_rail_vehicle_widgets, lengthof(_nested_replace_rail_vehicle_widgets) ); 15:18:57 <Samu> static WindowDesc _replace_vehicle_desc( WDP_AUTO, "replace_vehicle", 456, 118, WC_REPLACE_VEHICLE, WC_NONE, WDF_CONSTRUCTION, _nested_replace_vehicle_widgets, lengthof(_nested_replace_vehicle_widgets) ); 15:19:35 <Samu> was trying to reuse replace_vehicle 15:25:35 <Alberth> ok 15:26:58 <Alberth> then you must either use a stack widget, or initialize widgets to 0 size that you don't want to see, while creating the tree 15:28:25 <Alberth> where stack widget is for dynamically changing the window 15:29:07 <Alberth> although it's the most complicated form, there are much simpler forms if the sizes don't change after construction 15:41:33 <Eddi|zuHause> alluke: only one year delay? in what utopian world do you live? 15:46:36 <Samu> NWidget(WWT_TEXTBTN, COLOUR_GREY, WID_RV_MATCH_AIRCRAFT_TYPE), SetDataTip(STR_REPLACE_MATCH_AIRCRAFT_TYPE, STR_REPLACE_MATCH_AIRCRAFT_TYPE_HELP), 15:48:01 <Samu> NWidget(WWT_TEXTBTN, COLOUR_GREY, WID_RV_MATCH_AIRCRAFT_TYPE), SetDataTip(STR_REPLACE_MATCH_AIRCRAFT_TYPE, STR_REPLACE_MATCH_AIRCRAFT_TYPE_HELP), SetResize(1, 0), SetFill(1, 1), 15:49:48 <Samu> gonna try again 15:50:38 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 15:52:01 <Samu> meanwhile, this was my copy/paste method 15:52:02 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/puhsjpjyc 15:56:22 <Samu> do AIs have access to this stuff too? 15:56:32 <Samu> they can change my settings this way? 15:56:36 <Samu> lel 15:58:15 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 15:58:50 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 16:00:58 <Samu> do AIs have their own 'openttd.cfg' file for gui stuff? or ? 16:04:18 <Samu> i need to understand what happens when an AI 'clicks' 'Match aircraft type' button, are they gonna change my openttd.cfg file, or do they have their own virtual openttd.cfg file? 16:04:48 <LordAro> AIs can't change game settings 16:05:13 <Samu> well, but the way I implemented this, might be doing that 16:05:28 <LordAro> not sure about game scripts, but i'd imagine they're the same 16:05:42 *** supermop has joined #openttd 16:06:08 <supermop> yo 16:06:36 <Samu> IConsoleSetSetting("gui.autoreplace_match_aircraft_type", !_settings_client.gui.autoreplace_match_aircraft_type); 16:06:53 <Samu> this thing is what happens when clicking match aircraft typoe 16:08:29 <Samu> i didn't want to make this a company setting, i wanted each client to have their own preference 16:08:37 <Samu> but i worry about ais 16:09:47 <Samu> i dont want ais to change my preferences, wish i could test an ai 16:14:08 <Alberth> you changed checks in the replacement command ? 16:16:17 <Samu> what ? 16:16:43 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/puhsjpjyc#line-42 at line 42 16:17:27 <Samu> must be a DoCommand? 16:19:09 <Samu> line 44 is checking directly from the _settings_client 16:19:18 <Samu> to set the button state 16:22:06 <Samu> line 31 as well 16:23:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:23:53 <andythenorth> o/ 16:24:02 *** supermop has quit IRC 16:24:06 <Alberth> if you changed a CoCommand, then the other clients must also know the setting, or they block the replace, and desync 16:24:13 <Alberth> o/ andy 16:24:39 <Alberth> *DoCommand 16:25:22 <Samu> hmm autoreplace is a giant DoCommand 16:25:46 <Samu> but the outcome is unchanged regardless of this setting 16:26:00 <Samu> it's only acting as a filter for the list 16:27:32 <Samu> if a client has match aircraft type disabled and the other does not, it won't matter in the deciding moment when the aircraft is being replaced 16:28:06 <Samu> doesn't depend on it 16:29:40 <Samu> i think i have a way to test this, brb 16:32:40 <Samu> it's a setting of this kind: having a client with drag & drop toggled on and another having it toggled off 16:32:47 <Samu> playing in the same company 16:37:57 <Alberth> I am surprised the replacement doesn't check for a compatible aircraft type when replacing 16:38:22 <Alberth> *replacement code 16:40:12 <Samu> testing replacement 16:40:16 <Alberth> hmm, perhaps it makes sense, at an airport with both helicopters and aircraft 16:41:16 <Samu> no desync so far, aircraft is being sent for replacement 16:41:41 <Samu> will see if it desync, i got server and client playing in the same company, but with different match aircraft type 16:42:00 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:42:10 <Alberth> sure, gui doesn't desync in itself, a command must do something different at different machines 16:42:28 <Alberth> but if you didn't change that code, it should not desync 16:43:16 <Alberth> if you did change that code, you should make sure your changes are computed in the same way at all machines 16:48:02 <Samu> strange, aircraft isn't being replaced, what's happening :( 16:50:54 <Samu> oh, i see why 16:51:09 <Samu> trying to replace passenger with mail, that doesn't work 16:51:21 <Samu> better test without av8 16:56:57 <Samu> network game synchronization failed 16:57:09 <Samu> interesting, it desyncs 16:58:22 <Samu> i knew this was too good to be true 17:00:16 <Samu> really have to learn how to generate lists 17:06:42 <Samu> lines 11-16 are the cause of desync 17:06:55 <Samu> i wanna learn how to generate lists 17:10:21 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 17:10:30 <Samu> my first desync :( 17:10:35 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 17:11:40 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 17:22:59 *** Gja has quit IRC 17:23:05 <Samu> maybe this ain't too hard, give me some time, i'm trying to generate a list in another manner 17:23:11 <Samu> b back later 17:30:09 *** supermop has joined #openttd 17:36:42 <Samu> done 17:36:43 <Samu> yay 17:36:54 <Samu> trying desync 17:36:57 <Samu> brb 17:42:36 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 17:45:08 <Samu> no desync! 17:46:47 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p9hlizjtm 17:47:11 <Samu> now back to my other issue, about AIs being able to change my settings 17:49:02 <Samu> Alberth: halp :o 17:49:13 <Samu> AIs or GSs 17:49:47 *** supermop has quit IRC 17:59:38 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:59:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:59:51 <Samu> case WID_BRAS_PLATFORM_DRAG_N_DROP: { _settings_client.gui.station_dragdrop ^= true; 18:00:54 <Samu> do AIs have access to this button at all? 18:01:19 <Samu> what can AIs do afterall? :( i'm so depressed 18:12:27 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 18:25:35 <Samu> hmm instead of match aircraft type, i got an even better idea 18:26:51 <Samu> list all, list heli, list small, list large, list matching aircraft type 18:45:44 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27931 trunk/src/lang/portuguese.txt (2017-11-18 19:45:38 +0100 ) 18:45:45 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints: 18:45:46 <DorpsGek> portuguese: 7 changes by neuralshock 18:46:49 *** Gja has joined #openttd 19:06:28 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:10:53 *** Tillerbob has joined #openttd 19:12:11 <Tillerbob> I have a really dumb question. I've been having issues with joining loading bays to oil wells and iron ore. I have put them all around and both types of bay. Any thoughts on what I'm doing wrong? 19:15:00 <Alberth> euhm, what do you want to transport? 19:15:11 <Alberth> with what type of vehicles? 19:15:33 <Alberth> laoding bays -> trucks? 19:15:37 <Tillerbob> I go with the oil wells. I have the oil trucks. The loading bays just say Accepts: Nothing 19:16:00 <Tillerbob> Same with the ore mine. I put the bay next to it and it says Accepts: Nothing 19:16:04 <Alberth> yes, you get oil, you don't bring it 19:16:18 <Tillerbob> <--- Dumbass 19:16:22 <Alberth> :) 19:16:30 <Tillerbob> It's been a long day already. Thanks... 19:16:36 <Alberth> enjoy the game 19:16:39 <Tillerbob> I've been fighting the most obvious thing ever. Appreciate the helpt 19:17:37 <Alberth> this is oneof those problems that just must have a stupid answer 19:17:51 <Alberth> and you're just blind 19:17:57 <Alberth> happens to all of us :) 19:22:01 *** supermop has joined #openttd 19:22:11 *** supermop has quit IRC 19:29:06 *** supermop_home has joined #openttd 19:43:13 <Samu> subsidies for cargo dist topic is hot 19:44:37 <Samu> i'd also like an option to completely disable subsidies 20:05:24 <Alberth> just ignore them 20:05:37 <Alberth> maybe you can disable the news items 20:06:31 <Alberth> additional income is non-relevant anyway 20:13:20 *** supermop_home has quit IRC 20:20:29 *** PressureLine has joined #openttd 20:26:56 *** supermop has joined #openttd 20:27:04 <PressureLine> wjee 20:28:29 *** Tillerbob has quit IRC 20:31:29 *** Breckett has quit IRC 20:39:17 <PressureLine> i think my project for the day should be "all default industries on one map!" 20:42:37 <Alberth> 64x64 map :) 20:42:52 <PressureLine> tempting 20:43:16 <Alberth> oh, it's fun for a few times 20:43:25 <PressureLine> but. I prefer larger maps, so when im making a grf for me, I don't really care about 64^2 maps 20:43:33 <Alberth> no room for large stations 20:44:22 <Alberth> you can always do 128x1024 or so 20:45:01 <Alberth> bit insanely long :) 20:46:45 <PressureLine> https://i.imgur.com/yPDDrMn.png 20:48:01 <PressureLine> eventual goal in that game is to be running 10TL mainline trains 20:49:13 <PressureLine> 64x4096 20:49:18 * PressureLine nods sagely 21:02:23 <Alberth> ieks 21:02:26 *** Alberth has left #openttd 21:08:19 <PressureLine> maybe i'll have a play around with OpenGFX+ Industries 21:09:17 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 21:09:51 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 21:09:51 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 21:13:28 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 21:13:55 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 21:15:05 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 21:29:57 <Samu> well, in competitive servers, it matters 21:30:03 <Samu> about subsidies 21:30:34 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:33:17 <Samu> SQGSWindow.DefSQConst(engine, ScriptWindow::WID_RV_MATCH_AIRCRAFT_TYPE, "WID_RV_MATCH_AIRCRAFT_TYPE"); 21:33:36 <Samu> what is this SQGSWindow stuff supposed to do? 21:34:00 <Samu> src/script/api/game/game_window.hpp.sq 21:35:29 <Samu> seems like a whole different coding style, these .sq files 21:43:37 *** mczapkie has joined #openttd 21:43:49 <mczapkie> Hello 21:45:30 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 21:46:09 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 21:53:14 <mczapkie> I can change allow_subsidy option to enumerate (off, manual, all) 21:53:32 <andythenorth> lo mczapkie 21:54:19 <mczapkie> Hello Andy 21:57:59 <mczapkie> I was answering to @Samu 21:59:27 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 22:06:24 *** Laedek_ has quit IRC 22:07:17 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 22:09:10 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 22:11:00 *** Pressure_Line has joined #openttd 22:11:56 <Samu> hi mczapkie plz do 22:13:08 *** kais58 has quit IRC 22:13:57 *** synchris has quit IRC 22:13:58 *** kais58 has joined #openttd 22:17:30 *** PressureLine has quit IRC 22:17:30 *** Smedles has quit IRC 22:17:46 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 22:18:55 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:27:50 <mczapkie> Samu, good idea, hovewer I'm not sure if this patch would be implemented in trunk 22:41:52 <Samu> :) 23:00:50 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 23:02:48 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 23:02:57 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 23:22:06 *** Pressure_Line has quit IRC 23:42:23 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 23:43:16 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:43:19 *** tokai has quit IRC 23:44:07 *** tokai has joined #openttd 23:44:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 23:46:04 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 23:51:27 <supermop> hi mczapkie, interesting post about subsidies 23:51:35 <andythenorth> bed 23:51:36 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 23:59:27 *** Flygon has joined #openttd