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:) 08:32:12 *** roidal has joined #openttd 08:32:56 <andythenorth> maybe soon 08:53:16 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 09:02:28 *** Progman has joined #openttd 09:09:25 *** synchris has joined #openttd 09:34:05 *** ZexaronS has joined #openttd 09:43:01 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 09:43:08 <Wolf01> Moin 09:44:50 <Alberth> moin 10:01:53 *** Progman has quit IRC 10:04:05 *** Progman has joined #openttd 10:08:53 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:08:57 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 10:09:26 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 10:42:01 *** crem has quit IRC 10:42:49 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 10:43:13 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 10:49:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 11:08:34 *** drac_boy has joined #openttd 11:08:39 <drac_boy> hi again :) 11:31:07 *** Gja has joined #openttd 11:31:56 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 11:32:20 <drac_boy> hi gja, hows denmark? 11:33:25 <Gja> So far okay drac_boy :D 11:33:40 <Gja> How come you ask drac_boy? 11:33:54 <drac_boy> canada's ok .. or at least my part of it .. finally snowed for real a few days ago and looks like it'll be staying on the ground too :) 11:34:04 <drac_boy> oh just curious (and that also its quite slow here too) 11:35:13 <Gja> compering countries is always hard because there is so many things you can compare 11:35:33 <Gja> but if you will excuse me it is my B-day so Im going to pick up some sushi for celebration later today 11:35:51 <drac_boy> heh well gja have a fun birthday ok :) 11:36:16 <drac_boy> *dumps a little cake with too many candles on the top in front of you?* 11:42:03 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 11:43:59 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 11:44:22 <drac_boy> hi frosch, and no no questions this time mr.helpful :-) 11:44:57 <frosch123> yay :) 11:47:52 <drac_boy> just rehashing some locomotive balances and trying to figure out some good 2-4 letter combination for the cargo name list atm..aside to irc :p 11:49:31 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 11:49:41 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:54:36 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 11:55:04 <drac_boy> oh and frosch I did figure out the plane thinge..not going bother worrying about it anyway as its a user's parameter preference thing 11:55:12 *** Thedarkb1 has joined #openttd 12:14:18 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/backport.txt <- anything more for 1.7.2 ? 12:15:12 *** crem has joined #openttd 12:17:56 <Wolf01> NRT? 12:18:28 <Wolf01> We could always add BGT later :P 12:18:58 <Eddi|zuHause> that's more something for 1.8? 12:19:18 <Wolf01> Yeah, NRTBGT should be the main feature for 1.8 12:19:40 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 12:19:44 <Eddi|zuHause> you have until christmas to finish it for 1.8-beta :p 12:19:58 <Eddi|zuHause> so like 2 weeks :p 12:20:02 <drac_boy> btw just asking but has the czech tycoon site been down for a very long time? 12:20:03 <Wolf01> Heh... 12:20:45 <andythenorth> we ought to fix station UI :P 12:20:47 <andythenorth> but eh 12:20:51 <Wolf01> My new game UI rework with tabs? 12:21:34 <frosch123> drac_boy: it has been inactive for years, but i think it was reachable earlier this year 12:22:01 <drac_boy> hrm figured as much :-/ oh well can try find the grfs from elsewhere if archive doesn't cooperate later on 12:22:02 <drac_boy> ty 12:22:38 <Wolf01> BTW, back on topic, do the mouse fix for win10 works? 12:22:42 <Eddi|zuHause> all relevant newgrfs not on bananas should be in the coop grf pack 12:22:49 <frosch123> drac_boy: maybe try #coop grf pack? 12:24:36 <drac_boy> frosch I wish, had thought of that but unforunately I do remember they had a road grf I quite liked .. the coop doesn't seem to have taken interest in it 12:25:53 <drac_boy> anyway don't worry about it tho :-) I need to afk as usual sorry ... carry on with your ottd 1.8 topics ;) 12:26:11 *** drac_boy has left #openttd 12:29:33 <andythenorth> frosch123: is that changelog entry supposed to be headed '1.8' or '1.7.2'? o_O 12:30:37 <frosch123> 1.8 is 1.8 12:30:42 <frosch123> 1.7.2-RC1 is further down 12:30:51 <Wolf01> Updating to 1709, BBL 12:31:02 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 12:31:43 <frosch123> andythenorth: i do not check the whole commit history in march for stuff which was not backported :p 12:32:25 <frosch123> so all changelog-worthy commits need to go into either the 1.8 or the 1.7 section 12:32:36 *** Wolf01|Phone has joined #openttd 12:33:25 <Wolf01|Phone> "since ottd mouse problem is now fixed, your pc is ready to be updated to win 10 fcu" 12:33:45 <Eddi|zuHause> "fuck you"? 12:34:52 <Wolf01|Phone> I don't know, maybe something else could go wrong 12:35:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i meant the "fcu" at the end :p 12:35:27 <Wolf01|Phone> Yeah, the fuck you update 12:35:53 <Wolf01|Phone> But I think it shouldn't go so bad 12:38:02 <Wolf01|Phone> I know of some problems... Like missing drivers for old dot matrix printers 12:38:05 <andythenorth> frosch123: have you tried horizontal scroll on depot dividers? 12:38:55 <Wolf01|Phone> That should work andy, at least the dividers were there the last time I tried 12:39:53 <frosch123> heh, it doesn't work :p 12:40:02 <Wolf01|Phone> Lol 12:40:22 <Wolf01|Phone> What went wrong? 12:41:30 <Wolf01|Phone> Also, I've almost finished the ginger beer, and I can't go to the pub 😞 12:42:16 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 12:43:08 <frosch123> hmm, does that mean free wagons also need to scroll now? 12:43:19 <frosch123> (not that i know a reason why they were not) 12:43:37 <frosch123> hmm, probably so you can attach them somewhere 12:44:07 <andythenorth> they would scroll out of sight eh :) 12:44:20 <andythenorth> nothing ever simple :x 12:46:20 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 12:47:02 <frosch123> so, how do i get a proper "modulo" that is correct for negative numbers? 12:49:04 <frosch123> python3 is so much easier :) 12:49:26 <andythenorth> :P 12:50:03 *** Thedarkb1 has joined #openttd 12:54:55 <frosch123> did you know? when you have to scroll in the depot, you cannot attach a wagon at the end because you cannot scroll far enough 12:57:13 <andythenorth> yes 12:57:14 <andythenorth> I know 12:57:20 <andythenorth> you have to put it in the middle, then move it 12:57:23 <andythenorth> do that quite often 13:01:26 <Alberth> your trains are too long 13:01:26 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 13:04:42 <frosch123> Alberth: andy runs ottd on a 320x200 screen with 4x zoom or so 13:06:09 <andythenorth> roughly 13:08:34 <Alberth> hmm, so much for 640x400 at 1x zoom as minimum requirement thus 13:09:57 <andythenorth> I am on 1280x800 equivalent, at 2x zoom 13:10:00 *** Wolf01|Phone has quit IRC 13:10:19 <andythenorth> and there is a list of stuff that doesn't fit 13:10:24 <andythenorth> not an actual list :P 13:10:37 <Alberth> :) 13:10:56 <frosch123> the list doesn't fit? 13:10:56 <andythenorth> I keep thinking to learn UI code and fix it 13:10:57 <andythenorth> but eh 13:11:09 <andythenorth> I never get any grfs finished, so I can't 13:11:51 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 13:12:00 <Alberth> stop starting new grfs :p 13:12:17 <Alberth> anyone tried the "Think globally, act locally" game script? 13:12:21 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 13:12:27 <andythenorth> nope 13:12:35 <frosch123> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/ptizrj53b?/ptizrj53b <- fixes 3 things 13:12:38 <Alberth> wondering if it is nice to play 13:12:51 <andythenorth> frosch123: I test? 13:13:13 <frosch123> it works with gui zoom and rtl 13:13:30 <frosch123> the wagons do not scroll, which may look weird, but is less weird than the alternatives i can think of 13:18:02 <Alberth> otherwise you need to do clipping, I guess 13:18:15 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 13:18:26 <andythenorth> seems to work 13:19:25 <Alberth> looks ok 13:21:44 *** tokai has joined #openttd 13:21:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 13:21:45 <frosch123> how far should it scroll beyond the max train length? 13:21:50 <frosch123> currently it scrolls 1/2 tile 13:21:55 <frosch123> should it scroll a whole tile? 13:23:13 <andythenorth> seems completely usable at the moment 13:23:33 <andythenorth> looks like it scrolls a full tile to me 13:23:47 <frosch123> scroling a whole tile would mean that you can also see whether a 12/8 wagon goes to the next tile 13:24:50 <andythenorth> hard to call 13:29:30 <andythenorth> frosch123: maybe 1 tile is better 13:29:36 <andythenorth> also for when using drag with ctrl 13:46:00 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27936 trunk/src/train_gui.cpp (2017-12-10 14:45:53 +0100 ) 13:46:01 <DorpsGek> -Fix: When moving wagons in the depot, the drag highlight did not exactly match the length of the dragged wagon chain. 13:48:13 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27937 trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp (2017-12-10 14:48:06 +0100 ) 13:48:14 <DorpsGek> -Change: When train depots have a horizontal scrollbar, allow scrolling 1 tile beyond the longest train, so you can actually attach a wagon at the end. 13:48:55 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27938 trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp (2017-12-10 14:48:49 +0100 ) 13:48:56 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r27899): When scrolling in the train depot, also scroll the tile separators. 13:52:35 <frosch123> has anyone seen adf in the past 3 months? 13:56:41 <LordAro> @seen adf88 13:56:41 <DorpsGek> LordAro: adf88 was last seen in #openttd 12 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 42 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <adf88> classic Windows keyboard is nicer :p http://stevenharman.net/images/posts/ctrl-alt-del.gif 13:56:47 <LordAro> no 14:10:59 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 14:11:03 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 14:19:14 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 14:33:37 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:07:16 *** Samu has joined #openttd 15:14:33 <Samu> the mouse bug fix shouldn't affect win10 1703, right? 15:16:02 <Samu> just testing, seems good on 1703 15:16:07 <Samu> no issues 15:18:21 <andythenorth> FIRS release lighting up the internet 15:18:24 <andythenorth> I got zero replies 15:18:29 <andythenorth> V453000: ^ 15:19:04 <frosch123> it was slightly too late 15:19:09 <frosch123> devzone worked for a week 15:19:12 <frosch123> now it is broken again 15:20:27 <andythenorth> gr8 15:20:51 <andythenorth> when I can be arsed, I'll figure out moving to github 15:21:32 <frosch123> that won't build binaries or do translations :) 15:22:05 <frosch123> even though devzone is broken most of the time, it still does more than plain repository hosting 15:22:22 <andythenorth> did we find a hosted build service? 15:22:26 * andythenorth can't remember 15:22:35 <andythenorth> oh there was one that was 4x too expensicve? 15:22:55 <andythenorth> oh so bundles is failing :P 15:22:58 * andythenorth hadn't noticed 15:23:03 <frosch123> for ottd, none of them did what we needed 15:23:36 <andythenorth> jenkinds is failing to get a valid hg response? 15:23:40 <andythenorth> jenkins * 15:24:02 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 15:24:44 <frosch123> no idea, i only figured out someone updated rhodecode early november, then devzone was broken for 3 week. last week someone fixed it apparently, now it is broken again 15:30:35 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 15:42:54 <planetmaker> hm 15:43:20 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 15:43:20 <planetmaker> again? :| 15:45:22 <planetmaker> what can we do to make it work better or more reliable... dunno why it always crashes kallithea 15:52:56 <Eddi|zuHause> add a cronjob that restarts it? 15:59:21 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 16:01:01 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 16:12:59 <planetmaker> yeah... probably 16:17:20 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 16:17:36 <Wolf01> Bah, it doesn't seem to install nicely, update loop again 16:17:45 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 16:20:26 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 16:24:45 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 16:37:02 <Wolf01> And now I need to unfuck me from that nasty situation on astroneer... the last update emptied the fuel tank of my shuttle 16:53:11 <Eddi|zuHause> was it at least landed? 16:53:29 <Wolf01> Yes, in a planet without any kind of fuel 16:53:42 <Eddi|zuHause> what put me off astroneer so far was the lack of a linux version 16:53:43 <Wolf01> Now I need to get enough fuel by researching 16:58:08 <Wolf01> Researched the fuel condenser, it might come handy 16:58:19 <Wolf01> Also the exchange platform, but requires fuel... 17:01:12 <Wolf01> Oooh look, a nice upside down antenna... angler plant -> ded 17:01:48 *** Arveen2 has joined #openttd 17:06:48 *** Arveen has quit IRC 17:11:18 <Wolf01> The fuel condenser is really handy: 1/4 of a canister for each energy load... I need at least 3 full canisters to takeoff, change orbit and land on my planet :( 17:37:07 *** Alberth has left #openttd 17:38:30 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 17:52:21 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 17:54:36 *** SgtStroopwafel has joined #openttd 17:57:07 *** SgtStroopwafel has quit IRC 17:59:04 <Wolf01> Ok, retry the update, BBL 17:59:06 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 18:00:38 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 18:13:14 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:13:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:13:18 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 18:15:47 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 18:17:58 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:18:31 <Wolf01> Bah, "a reboot is required"... it just reboots 18:19:24 <glx> kind of 3h long reboot 18:23:54 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 18:26:38 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 18:27:26 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 18:30:11 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 18:34:00 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 18:45:05 <andythenorth> such drawing 18:48:27 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 18:51:16 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 18:55:00 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 18:55:36 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 18:59:14 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 19:02:00 *** SgtStroopwafel has joined #openttd 19:17:01 *** Gudea has joined #openttd 19:18:44 <Gudea> Hello, I have a stupid question/problem. I recently installed openttd. I see no menu bar and no status bar if I start a new game. Help please. 19:20:58 <debdog> what if you start an old game? 19:21:11 <debdog> well, kidding. OS and ottd version? 19:22:33 <Gudea> I'm new to the game and just downloaded the game from the website. 19:23:30 <Gudea> So I don't have any old games. 19:24:58 <Gudea> What is OS and ottd? 19:25:38 <debdog> operating system and openttd 19:26:04 <Gudea> Windows 10, and the latest Version. 19:27:51 <Gudea> stable 1.7.1 19:29:06 <ST2> Gudea: try maximize the window, full screen (Alt+ENTER), etc 19:29:17 <ST2> at some point will show all stuff :) 19:29:56 <debdog> sorry, no clue how to do anything on win10. I suppose altering values in the settings dialogue --> Interface --> position od [main toolbar | status bar] does not change anything? 19:30:52 <Gudea> Thank you. It seems to work somehow after changing the window size several times. 19:31:12 <Gudea> Have a nice day. 19:31:50 <debdog> glad it worked \o/ 19:52:22 *** SgtStroopwafel has quit IRC 19:52:34 <Eddi|zuHause> Gudea: check the compatibility settings, it has this habit to make a 120% zoom as default, which will cut off the outer edges of the screen 19:52:51 <Gudea> Thank you. 19:53:15 <Gudea> That seems to be the case 19:53:58 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 19:54:11 *** SgtStroopwafel has joined #openttd 20:10:10 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 20:12:12 *** roidal has quit IRC 20:19:44 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 20:20:48 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 20:21:23 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:26:27 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:32:47 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 20:48:04 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 20:50:48 *** Gudea has quit IRC 20:54:09 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 21:04:45 <Wolf01> 'night 21:04:48 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:05:15 *** SgtStroopwafel has quit IRC 21:07:39 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 21:17:37 <__ln__> https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/new-research-finds-that-kids-aged-4-6-perform-better-during-boring-tasks-when-dressed-as-batman/ 21:27:06 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:54:02 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 21:55:24 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:07:46 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 22:09:54 *** synchris has quit IRC 22:21:10 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:34:06 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 22:57:38 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 23:27:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:35:37 *** Gja has quit IRC 23:36:58 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 23:42:21 *** FLHerne has quit IRC