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Log for #openttd on 25th December 2017:
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08:43:26  <Wolf01> o/
08:51:48  <Arveen> Moin
08:51:50  <RafiX> o/
08:52:22  <Arveen> every item on my Steam whish list is on sale for a reduced price - except Factorio
08:52:55  <Wolf01> I better to not see my wishlist
08:53:24  <Wolf01> And start F instead XD
08:53:33  <Arveen> i got 25 items on it - how about you ?
08:53:38  <Wolf01> 68
08:53:50  <Wolf01> And almost all on sale
08:53:51  <Arveen> not bad
08:54:08  <Arveen> dundundun :D
08:54:24  <Wolf01> But I have >700 games to play...
08:54:46  <Arveen> i got 7 on my lib
08:54:51  <Wolf01> (thanks bundles)
08:54:56  <Arveen> one is free too play
08:55:28  <Arveen> have you seen "Railway Empire" ?
08:55:37  <Arveen> still 42.49E - when on sale
08:55:38  <Wolf01> Yeah, it's on my wishlist
08:55:39  <Arveen> so expensiev imo
08:56:08  <Wolf01> I'm waiting for 75% sales for most of the games
09:13:13  <Alberth> o/
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10:16:22  <Wolf01> I think I'll listen to a great Pink Floyd classic: I wish V453000 were here
10:17:02  <RafiX> haha
10:17:17  <RafiX> it was "Wish You Were Here" Wolf01 ;)
10:17:50  <Wolf01> But I need V more
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14:15:45  <Wolf01> I'm so lazy that I'm building the factory from the map
14:16:27  <Wolf01> Playerception... I'm playing as a guy playing F
14:19:28  <frosch123> that's because it's the most meta holiday
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14:24:17  <Wolf01> Shit, that's one thing I can't do from the map: rotate buildings
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15:54:03  <Wolf01> Copper ore mine depleted... only 20k remains, I need to reach the one with 8M just behind the big biters' nest ASAP
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16:03:55  <Alkel_U3> Well, good thing the tanks are as powerful as they are, eh?
16:04:09  <Wolf01> Ehm.. I don't have the tank yet
16:05:01  <Alkel_U3> Oh. A lot more work for you, then :-)
16:27:16  <Wolf01> Nest cleaned
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17:36:41  <Borg> yooo
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19:31:49  <andythenorth> o/
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19:33:13  <supermop> lego
19:33:38  <supermop> building some detectives office set with my brother
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20:13:18  * andythenorth hogs
20:13:21  <andythenorth> and so on
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20:46:27  <frosch123> hog farm is crying
20:47:46  <andythenorth> I have angered jenkins
20:48:15  <andythenorth> oh a pillow failure
20:48:17  <andythenorth> interesting
20:49:09  <frosch123> what does hog pickle?
20:49:35  <andythenorth> iirc, it's a deliberate test to catch pickle failures in multiprocessing
20:49:38  * andythenorth looking
20:49:44  <andythenorth> multiprocessing should be off by default
20:50:02  <frosch123> looks like jenkins does the complete clone
20:50:06  <frosch123> so, no leftovers
20:50:46  <andythenorth> wondering which python version jenkins has
20:51:24  <frosch123> 3.2.3
20:51:33  <frosch123> oldstable i guess
20:52:22  <andythenorth> I do have python3.2
20:52:26  <andythenorth> I could test
20:52:39  <andythenorth> iirc my sets need python >= 3.4
20:52:55  <frosch123> if i would know how to make a backup, i would update :p
20:53:02  <andythenorth> :P
20:54:25  <andythenorth> frosch123: does hog build for you? o_O
20:58:04  <frosch123> it does not print any error
20:58:11  <frosch123> it produces a .nml, but no .grf
20:58:30  <andythenorth> lawks
20:58:56  <frosch123> make: *** No rule to make target 'docs/license.txt', needed by 'doc'.  Stop. <- oh, it aborted early
20:59:17  <frosch123> with "make -ik" it builds a grf
20:59:40  <frosch123> i didn't expect the error to be at the top :p
21:00:06  <andythenorth> wonder why it works for me :P
21:00:33  <frosch123> it works on second run
21:00:37  <frosch123> broken makefile as usual
21:03:39  <andythenorth> can I fix it? :P
21:03:56  <frosch123> the makefile is almost 600 lines long
21:04:10  <frosch123> i would only be able to "fix" that by rewriting
21:05:03  <andythenorth> I wonder if I've got a bad branch strategy
21:05:05  * andythenorth looking
21:05:08  <frosch123> likely you can delete 400 lines which are unsued
21:05:40  <frosch123> or do you use gimp scripts?
21:06:39  <andythenorth> I need to port the new makefile to Road Hog
21:06:49  <andythenorth> I thought I'd done it in a branch, but no
21:07:22  <frosch123> it's a gimp/pnml/whatever-makefile, certainly not for your pynml :)
21:07:33  <andythenorth> yes
21:07:41  <andythenorth> there's a new one in Iron Horse
21:07:42  <frosch123> it's kind of amazing that it sometimes gives a result :p
21:08:27  <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/entry/Makefile
21:08:42  <andythenorth> I need to copy that over
21:08:44  <frosch123> at least it is shorter :)
21:09:15  <andythenorth> job for tomorrow then :)
21:09:16  <frosch123> all rules fit on one screen
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21:14:02  <frosch123> andythenorth: oh, i remember. i made "make" default to -j5, so the Makefile is likely not parallel-safe
21:14:10  <andythenorth> :P
21:14:31  <frosch123> but well, "broken makefile" is always true
21:14:33  <andythenorth> the python compile shouldn't pick up the -j flag :)
21:15:10  <frosch123> tautology
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22:08:11  <Wolf01> <supermop> building some detectives office set with my brother <- I started to build the Caterham, I'll finish it tomorrow after dinner
22:14:47  <Wolf01> Enough F is enough, but I still want to play it now
22:15:05  <Wolf01> 8 hours today :S
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22:52:30  <Alkel_U3> I'd play 8 hours of F today, too (or OpenTTD), but I think I'd go insane with only a touchpad
22:54:02  <Alkel_U3> on the other hand, I discovered that I can change the crappy Elantech driver to Windows Precision Touchpad so it's not so horrible
22:56:47  <Eddi|zuHause> i used to play TT with only a keyboard (and a terrible trackball which was not really useful)
23:01:57  <Alkel_U3> I vaguely remember that some DOS games allowed tomove the cursor with keyboard. I know Master of Orion did and I think I recall TT having left-mouse-click on numeric zero?
23:03:14  <Eddi|zuHause> no, it was ins/del
23:03:20  <Eddi|zuHause> for left/right
23:03:28  <Eddi|zuHause> i think
23:03:52  <Eddi|zuHause> arrow keys moved the map (well, they still do), with shift it goes faster
23:04:10  <Eddi|zuHause> and alt+arrow keys moved the curser (they don't anymore), also with shift faster
23:04:23  <Alkel_U3> oh my, I don't even have dosbox on this laptop. Yet.
23:04:50  <Eddi|zuHause> modern OSes tend to have keyboard-mouse function, but it's just not the same...
23:05:46  <frosch123> do you refer to mouses with 10+ buttons?
23:05:52  <frosch123> mice?
23:06:10  <Eddi|zuHause> no, moving the mouse cursor with your regular keyboard
23:06:37  <Eddi|zuHause> you mean mouse-keyboards :p
23:07:44  <Alkel_U3> there are so many ways :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb6z4Thf6Ps
23:10:47  <Eddi|zuHause> but he can't go diagonal with that
23:11:54  <frosch123> multiplayer
23:12:25  <Eddi|zuHause> you could try dual tone whistling (careful if you have a phone nearby) :p
23:15:38  <Alkel_U3> Ï' justwaiting for the day when I can plug the computer directly into my brain and enjoy fullimmersion playing Alley Cat
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23:16:18  <Alkel_U3> I'm also looking forward to the day I clean out my space bar
23:16:20  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d76rzuFbL9U
23:17:28  <frosch123> don't know why i remembered that shit
23:19:37  <Eddi|zuHause> not sure how that is related to what i said, but...
23:19:51  <frosch123> playing 3 kazoos
23:23:18  <Alkel_U3> I'm not gonna lie, that did make me laugh a little
23:23:25  <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oau9gtG5Om8
23:25:13  <Alkel_U3> and this is just a step away from floppy drive orchestra
23:30:00  <Eddi|zuHause> well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S5IuaKiZIY
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