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00:01:55 <Samu> and there's yet another lonely change, sec 00:02:52 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pgc6tqpj9 00:03:21 <Samu> looks minor, but helps a lot with pending replace 00:03:45 <Samu> everything together, makes sense 00:03:50 <Samu> everthing on its own... meh... 00:04:44 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 00:08:55 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 00:23:56 <Samu> well, i gotta go, cyas and thx for the help 00:24:31 *** Samu has quit IRC 00:27:14 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 00:36:09 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 01:31:49 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 01:32:02 *** Mahjong has joined #openttd 01:56:34 *** som89 has quit IRC 02:08:40 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 02:32:33 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 03:30:55 *** Cubey has quit IRC 03:41:39 *** Chrill has joined #openttd 03:43:55 *** Chrill has quit IRC 04:03:12 *** Thedarkb1 has joined #openttd 04:07:00 *** glx has quit IRC 04:09:14 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 05:13:15 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 06:38:51 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 06:55:30 *** roidal has joined #openttd 06:59:50 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 07:56:21 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 08:37:38 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 08:38:05 *** Mahjong has joined #openttd 09:32:09 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 09:33:21 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 10:07:30 *** tokai has joined #openttd 10:07:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 10:14:24 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 11:28:59 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 12:11:42 *** roidal_ has joined #openttd 12:18:32 *** roidal has quit IRC 12:31:37 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 12:32:52 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 12:32:56 *** Gja has joined #openttd 12:39:29 *** alluke has quit IRC 12:52:19 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 12:57:00 *** Samu has joined #openttd 12:57:23 <Samu> hello 13:05:24 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 13:06:57 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 13:09:20 *** Borg has joined #openttd 13:10:04 <Samu> const char _openttd_revision[] = "h77418634M-trunk"; 13:10:05 *** Flygon has quit IRC 13:10:11 <Samu> is this intended? 13:10:35 <Samu> is it because I'm using mercurial? 13:11:02 <Samu> i was used to r12345M style 13:11:55 <Borg> boooom! an idea popped in.. 13:11:58 <Borg> currently.. 13:12:05 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 13:12:06 <Borg> Power Station is end industry.. it just eats coal.. 13:12:30 <Borg> im thinking.. to have global power storage... and every industry.. that does production... eats power.. 13:12:47 <peter1138> Samu, yes. You are not using svn so you don't get the svn revision. 13:12:59 <Borg> if there is not enough power.. industry stops producing.... you need to found new power station.. and supply coal to it.. 13:13:02 <Borg> sounds great? :D 13:13:25 <Samu> ah ok thx 13:13:35 <peter1138> So when you start a game, with no power stations running, what happens? 13:13:43 <Borg> dead end.. 13:14:01 <peter1138> Right before you begin? Doesn't sound useful. 13:14:04 <Borg> I will do it... doable in GRF since.. 1.2 GRF have persistent storage 13:14:25 <Borg> peter1138: well, u can try passangers runs.. to get cash to fund power station 13:14:32 <Borg> also.. power stations never vanish... 13:14:38 <Borg> so its not A big issue I think 13:14:54 <Borg> so.. I hope I will do it today :) and start testing.. 13:17:26 <Samu> aww sh1337t 13:17:30 <Samu> i think i screwed up 13:18:19 <Samu> https://imgur.com/a/5hVtr look at the graph 13:18:40 <Samu> commits 11-12-13 should be linked to 10 13:18:44 <Samu> what can i do now? 13:19:56 <Borg> I dunno HG... 13:20:07 <Samu> LordAro: wake up, help :o 13:21:11 <Borg> nice descriptions btw.. Trunk 1... etc... very informative... 13:21:24 <Borg> go use SVN... 13:21:34 <Borg> especialy.. because OpenTTD use it.. internally.. 13:22:00 <Samu> i thought svn couldn't do patch splitting 13:22:07 <Samu> commit or whatever the heck i'm doing 13:22:28 <Borg> well.. true.. but is that an issue to you? 13:22:36 <Borg> u barelly seems to know what are you doing.. 13:22:41 <Borg> so SVN will be better imo 13:23:03 <Borg> do checkout.. make branch.. do commits.. one by one 13:23:07 <Samu> i am slicing my big patch into smaller pieces 13:23:14 <Borg> and you can send svn diff -c <rev> 13:23:24 <Borg> it will be hard.. 13:25:15 <Samu> make branch? 13:25:31 <Samu> i got tortoisesvn installed 13:25:53 <Samu> there's a branch/tag or tag/branch option but i never managed to make it work 13:29:04 <Samu> p 13:29:06 <Samu> Copy D:\OpenTTD\trunksvn to svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk, Revision 27967 Path '/trunk' already exists 13:29:21 <Samu> can't do branch/tag thing 13:30:19 <LordAro> Borg: he can't do branching 13:30:35 <LordAro> not without setting up a separate svn repo, which i was not prepared to walk him through 13:31:00 <LordAro> Samu: there are plenty of people here who can help you 13:31:05 *** john-aj has joined #openttd 13:31:29 <LordAro> Samu: but yes, get in the habit of giving these patches meaningful commit messages 13:31:49 <LordAro> so that you don't have to look at the diff to know what they're doing 13:32:10 <Samu> i can ammend yet, i believe 13:32:39 <Samu> the ammend lets me edit the commit message, right? at least I was counting on it 13:32:48 <LordAro> i expect so 13:33:10 <LordAro> Samu: http://thedustytome.com/2014/05/29/Mercurial-Rebase-with-TortoiseHg/ this looks useful to you 13:33:47 <Borg> LordAro: he cant do any VCS I think ;) 13:33:50 <Borg> so.. SVN will be best 13:33:58 <Borg> because its easiest.. 13:34:12 <Borg> Samu: copy /trunk to /branch/samu 13:34:19 <Borg> in SVN.. and start commiting there 13:34:36 <Borg> use SVN repo relative structure.. not disk paths 13:34:54 <Borg> SVN is stupid in branching.. but... 13:35:05 <Borg> could be easier for you.. 13:35:15 <LordAro> Borg: he cannot commit 13:35:22 <Borg> ah wait.. shit :D sorry 13:35:30 <Borg> I forgot. .how limited SVN is.. I use GIT mostly 13:35:33 <LordAro> ;) 13:35:40 <LordAro> you think i'd bother otherwise? :p 13:35:45 <Borg> ;) 13:36:56 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 13:37:45 <Borg> damn.. my Power Plant plan.. failed 13:37:57 <Borg> I need Global GRF storage.. not associated w/ any object 13:41:00 <Borg> something like Persistent Storage: 0x80 - 0xFF 13:41:04 <Borg> would be neat 14:05:14 *** synchris has joined #openttd 14:11:04 <Samu> reading the tutorial, i dunno what's a push 14:11:21 <Samu> i've seen that push button somewhere, but I've never clicked on it 14:12:52 <Samu> my commit 10 should be moved to the left, to be before 11 14:14:26 <Samu> don't tell me i've been doing this wrong from the beginning? 14:15:41 <LordAro> Samu: pushing is sending your commits to a remote location, you won't need it 14:19:03 *** Samu has quit IRC 14:29:06 <Gustavo6046> Why is it always so difficult to make profit with airplanes? 14:32:55 <debdog> hmm, usually using aircraft is like printing money 14:35:33 <Gustavo6046> Probably when duplicating the aircraft. 14:43:26 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 14:52:05 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 15:12:49 *** Samu has joined #openttd 15:13:32 <Samu> sorry, power was down for an hour 15:30:31 <peter1138> It was bliss. 15:31:07 *** john-aj has quit IRC 15:31:36 <Rubidium> you don't have a UIS? What kind of third world country is that? 15:31:38 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 15:33:05 <Samu> Poortugal 15:35:31 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 15:45:15 <Samu> i still don't know what I'm doing 15:48:04 <__ln__> https://www.dbregio.de/db_regio/view/zukunft/eco-de-me-train.shtml <-- patch needed 15:49:48 <LordAro> Samu: fun faxt, when i first started i wrote diff files by hand 15:49:58 <LordAro> no one has any idea what they're doing when they first start 15:52:16 <Samu> i exported all patches into .patch files 15:52:32 <Samu> 22740.patch, 22741.patch, 22742.patch, etc... 15:53:01 <Samu> how would I share this to some one else interested 15:53:31 <Samu> do they know they have to apply each in correct order? 15:54:28 <Samu> apply 22740 against trunk, then 22741 against 22740, etc? 15:54:48 <Samu> it seems I'm missing the point 15:55:32 <LordAro> generally, patch files are numbered 01-description.patch, 02-description.patch... 15:55:41 <LordAro> i.e. in numerical order 15:56:23 <Samu> 22743 is vs trunk again 15:56:52 <LordAro> so it's the first patch in a separate "queue" 15:59:10 <Samu> 22740.patch becomes 01-apply vs trunk.patch 15:59:25 <Samu> 22741.patch becomes 02-apply vs 01.patch? 15:59:38 <LordAro> no, description of what the patch does 15:59:43 <LordAro> normally the commit message 15:59:53 <LordAro> (and without spaces, they're annoying) 16:00:44 <Samu> ok, i better start adding descriptions to all this, gonna experiment with Ammend 16:00:46 <Samu> amend 16:03:10 <Borg> well.. not a commit message maybe.. but short description... like: 16:03:22 <Borg> 01_pt_translation_fixes.patch 16:04:04 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 16:05:51 <Samu> i can't amend, or fail to undesrtand it's purpose 16:06:00 <Samu> damn me 16:06:17 <Borg> it doesnt matter... you are doing diffs.. 16:06:31 <Borg> comment description is not part of diff.. so. dont waste time for it.. 16:06:37 <Borg> just make patches is correct order.. 16:07:24 <Borg> and also.. why did you choosed HG? 16:07:42 <Borg> GIT is more popular. shitloads of howtos and help sites 16:08:40 <LordAro> Borg: i figured it might be easier 16:08:51 <LordAro> could've been wrong, but there we go 16:09:14 <Borg> LordAro: I dunno HG.. but its less popular.. and it seems to mix SVN stuff w/ distrubuted VCS.. 16:09:26 <Borg> also.. for Samu.. anything that SVN will be hard anyway 16:11:00 <LordAro> Borg: that's what i figured - marginally closer to what was already known 16:11:07 <LordAro> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:11:08 <Samu> i can only ammend the last thing I've done, commit 13 :( 16:11:18 <Samu> amend* 16:11:42 <Samu> ok, back to doing diffs 16:15:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:18:36 <Samu> i'm nearly done with aircraft_cmd.cpp with stuff that doesn't require the large_aeroplane_on_short_runway setting yet 16:23:02 <Samu> oh boy, the branching tree is now split into 3, things are starting to complicate :) 16:33:30 <LordAro> Samu: https://mcmblog.azurewebsites.net/how-to-modify-history-in-tortoisehg/ will become interesting to you as well 16:34:16 <Samu> i have branches crossing each other now, i really hope this is fine and all, but it's getting quite messed up for me 16:37:30 <Samu> i reached that phase where I have to create a setting 16:37:37 <Samu> _settings_game.vehicle.large_plane_on_short_runway 16:39:50 <Samu> oh gosh... 16:40:08 <Samu> whoever thought piece by piece was a good idea :( 16:54:48 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:56:00 <Samu> order_cmd.cpp 17:01:29 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 17:05:38 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 17:29:51 <Samu> hmm, how many commits for the addition of a game setting? 17:31:02 <Samu> i just feel like doing it all at once, but then i fail the main purpose of what i'm doing 17:34:19 <Samu> needs afterload conversion, needs savegame bump, needs 2 strings, needs a proc, needs to be added to gui... 17:34:55 <Samu> i was thinking of doing these steps all in 1 commit, what u say? 17:35:11 <Samu> there's more to be done afterwards 17:35:24 <Samu> to make the setting actually do anything in the game 17:40:19 *** Cadmus has quit IRC 17:44:01 <Samu> t.t 17:49:40 <LordAro> Samu: probably 1 commit then 17:52:10 *** john-aj has joined #openttd 18:10:57 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 18:12:26 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 18:13:31 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:13:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:14:09 <Samu> i'm confused 18:14:51 <Samu> i have the code changes ready for the addition of the setting 18:16:01 <Samu> now this is the continuation of commit 1 18:16:26 <Samu> the branching is becoming chaotic to look at 18:17:17 <Samu> i hate this tree system, doesn't make things clear at all 18:18:27 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:18:34 <Wolf01> o/ 18:19:34 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 18:20:00 <Samu> how do i make this commit to be applied when commit 1 and commit 17 are applied? 18:20:17 <Samu> are required 18:20:46 <Samu> i can only upgrade to 1 or 17, can't upgrade to both at the same time 18:20:50 <Samu> update* 18:21:10 <frosch123> hola 18:21:55 <Samu> hi 18:22:17 <Wolf01> Quak 18:22:58 <Samu> LordAro: am i screwed? :( 18:23:50 <LordAro> Samu: let's see the tree? 18:24:37 <Samu> k 18:25:36 <Samu> https://imgur.com/SPMBQzL 18:25:46 <Samu> unresolved conflict 18:25:58 <Samu> i'm doomed 18:26:15 <LordAro> no need to be dramatic 18:27:23 <LordAro> Samu: right, i'd recommend deleting 17, checking out 1, and remaking 17 & your new one 18:27:51 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:28:31 <Samu> ok, deleting 17, sounds like a good idea 18:29:08 <Samu> how do i "delete 17" :( im so noob at this 18:32:41 <Samu> backout? revert all files? 18:37:08 <Samu> gonna try strip 18:38:48 <Samu> rip 17 18:47:44 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 18:51:41 *** Mahjong has joined #openttd 18:54:37 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 18:56:40 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:58:43 <Wolf01> o/ 18:58:49 <__ln__> \o 19:01:04 <supermop_work> yo 19:01:34 *** Thedarkb1 has joined #openttd 19:12:57 <andythenorth> hi 19:24:26 <Wolf01> http://www.adnkronos.com/fatti/cronaca/2018/01/26/incidente-treno-scintille-fumo-prima-dell-impatto_CXZ4w4QQGkrJV4YKaZPy1O.html mmmh, I wonder what really happened there, some of the sources say it derailed because a fault on the rail, some others say the fault of the rail was a consequence... 19:31:47 <Wolf01> https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning andythenorth 19:32:31 <andythenorth> could teach me kids with it 19:32:34 <andythenorth> me / my /s 19:33:12 <Wolf01> I should start to learn it too 19:36:07 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 19:50:37 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 19:54:04 <Samu> i'm approaching the end 19:54:10 <Samu> it's almost done 19:55:19 <Samu> these depot order fixes were part of bugs I found and fixed along the way, but I don't remember the exact details of reproducing one 19:55:35 <Samu> must trial and error to discover 19:56:48 <john-aj> cool! 19:59:33 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 20:02:59 <Samu> ah, i remember 20:03:23 <Samu> it's about go to hangar in the order list 20:03:40 <Samu> order 1: go to hangar A 20:03:46 <Samu> order 2: go to hangar B 20:03:56 <Samu> the plane is currently executing order 1 20:04:09 <Samu> if you skip to order 2, the plane still goes to hangar A 20:04:21 <Samu> it's a bug in openttd itself 20:09:59 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: in germany, there's usually a detailed report about half a year later tracing every step that lead to the crash 20:10:03 *** john-aj has quit IRC 20:13:52 <Samu> looks like there only 1 more commit to go 20:14:51 *** som89 has joined #openttd 20:15:45 <Samu> vehicle.cpp 20:20:46 <Samu> done 20:20:47 *** john-aj has joined #openttd 20:20:50 <Samu> 23 commits 20:21:07 <Samu> now I'm a bit lost, what do i do next? 20:24:06 <Samu> https://imgur.com/J54zihH the end result! 20:24:11 <Samu> not quite what I expected 20:24:44 <Samu> 10 and 11 should have been linked together, but i failed there 20:24:55 <Samu> not much of a problem, but meh 20:29:34 <Samu> LordAro: what now? 20:31:44 <Samu> is it supposed to look like that? feels disconnected~ 20:32:00 *** Thedarkb1 has joined #openttd 20:38:59 *** john-aj has quit IRC 20:42:30 *** synchris has quit IRC 20:44:24 <Wolf01> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NitIxL7iLEY this reminds me something... like the video posted by andythenorth :P 20:45:06 <andythenorth> it's good eh :) 20:49:04 *** Borg has quit IRC 20:55:21 <frosch123> what cost more? the lego or the hall construction? 21:04:16 <andythenorth> both 21:08:11 *** happpy has joined #openttd 21:08:20 *** happpy has left #openttd 21:50:11 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 21:50:33 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 21:54:32 *** Mahjong has joined #openttd 22:05:38 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 22:17:36 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:33:06 *** roidal_ has quit IRC 22:34:05 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:40:55 <Samu> 06 - RemoveOrderFromAllVehicles - prepare code to allow invalidation of go to hangar order while keeping go to airport order belonging to the same station.patch 22:41:03 <Samu> too long name? 22:44:17 <Samu> 07 - UpdateAirplanesOnNewStation - invalidade go to hangar orders when replacing an airport with a heliport.patch 22:44:58 <Samu> daed chat 22:45:07 <LordAro> yes too long 22:45:32 <LordAro> and replace spaces wirh - or _ 22:46:35 <Samu> really? for any special reason? 22:46:46 <Samu> but ok i'll do it 22:47:34 <Samu> 01_FindNearestHangar__re-arrange_code_for_what's_to_come.patch 22:47:37 <Samu> something like this? 22:48:55 <LordAro> something like that 22:49:05 <LordAro> no apostrophes either 22:49:31 <LordAro> spaces and quotes tend to cause issues on commandlines 22:49:44 <Samu> oh, i see 22:50:19 <Samu> is it ok to use double _ ? 22:50:20 <Samu> __ 22:51:28 <LordAro> sure, although it lengthens it further 22:51:42 <LordAro> keep it short, but descriptive 22:52:10 <LordAro> (also, "dead chat" after 4 minutes is silly, don't do that) 22:53:14 <Samu> 05_UpdateAirplanesOnNewStation__cancel_send_to_hangar_order_when_the_rebuilt_airport_doesnt_have_a_hangar_or_if_the_aircraft_cant_land_on_it.patch 22:53:41 <Samu> i wonder 22:54:51 <LordAro> wway too long 22:54:59 <LordAro> 80chars, ish 22:55:03 <Samu> how am i gonna short this while being descriptive enough 22:55:12 <Samu> i doomed myself 22:58:29 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:59:20 <LordAro> full description is what commit messages are for 23:00:43 <LordAro> 05_no_service_with_missing_hangar.patch 23:00:45 <LordAro> maybe 23:05:16 <Samu> can i still edit the commit message with a text editor? 23:05:28 <Samu> or am i gonna corrupt the patch? 23:07:31 <Samu> this feels like editing mp3 albums 23:08:37 <LordAro> probably 23:08:42 <LordAro> google will tell you 23:08:56 <LordAro> it's been years since i actually used hg, let alone tortoisehg 23:09:37 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:14:25 <Samu> oh man, this is so intense, no thx 23:14:26 <Samu> http://knowledgestockpile.blogspot.pt/2010/12/changing-commit-message-of-revision-in.html 23:20:59 <Samu> If a helicopter/airplane needs to be sent to a hangar during a service request, and there are no airports with hangars in the orders (travelling between heliports), or the airplane cannot land (runway too short), a nearby hangar outside the orders will be searched. If the distance to a found hangar is shorter than the distance to the helistation/airport the helicopter/airplane is headed to, the helicopter/airplane is sent to that hangar. 23:21:05 <Samu> must shorten this 23:21:06 <Samu> lol 23:22:41 <Samu> service aircraft at a hangar outside the orders 23:23:48 <Samu> try to service aircraft at a hangar outside the orders 23:24:23 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 23:24:27 <Samu> seems to fit 23:27:46 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 23:28:11 <Wolf01> 'night 23:28:13 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:30:15 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:41:38 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest2819 23:41:39 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 23:41:43 *** Tharbakim has quit IRC 23:42:42 <Samu> 12_AircraftEventHandler_AtTerminal__check_at_terminal_if_an_aircraft_needs_automatic_servicing_or_has_a_pending_replace_and_send_it_to_hangar_before_sending_to_takeoff.patch 23:43:59 <Samu> i'll work on shortening file names at another time 23:44:15 <Samu> for now i rather describe them in full 23:45:37 *** Guest2819 has quit IRC 23:48:37 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 23:50:54 *** Tharbakim has joined #openttd 23:52:11 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest2820 23:52:12 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 23:55:07 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 23:55:41 *** Guest2820 has quit IRC 23:55:50 <Samu> 13_AircraftEventHandler_HeliTakeOff__check if a_helicopter_has_a_pending_replace_and_send_it_to_a_hangar_if_it_just_departed_from_a_heliport.patch