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Log for #openttd on 21st March 2018:
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09:14:55  <peter1138> derp
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12:37:58  <dihedral> LANJesus, nice job!
12:38:09  <dihedral> greetings ye all
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14:37:04  <supermop_work> yo
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15:11:52  <supermop_work> hi Alberth
15:12:15  <supermop_work> another blizzard here today
15:12:21  <supermop_work> on the 2nd day of spring
15:15:29  <Alberth> winter seems to have moved :p
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15:49:53  <Sacro> https://open.spotify.com/album/2lA2FPXl3kgs0ZkRb8eWbF?si=JygZqdnUSymC9HD2uiQjfw
15:49:58  <Sacro> Totally on topic
15:52:09  <__ln__> totally
15:54:27  <LordAro> doesn't seem exactly legal
15:55:19  <__ln__> i was thinking about exactly the same thing. and wondering whether that is actually generated from the original midi files directly.
16:00:53  <Eddi|zuHause> this must be a field day for global warming deniers
16:01:01  <peter1138> As the last person on Earth without a Spotify account... I can only guess what it is.
16:01:18  <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: i guess i join that club
16:02:30  <LordAro> peter1138: TTD soundtrack, essentially
16:05:18  <Sacro> Hmm, sounds like it's straight from the MIDIs
16:05:32  <Sacro> Given the audio lag at times on Fell Apart On Me
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16:16:29  <nielsm> well just made a github fork of the "old" svn-tracking repos there for now, and pushed up my own music branch
16:16:33  <nielsm> https://github.com/nielsmh/OpenTTD/tree/newmusic
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16:26:23  <__ln__> well it's not impossible that this "knight by knight" has paid the copyright holders.... but....
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16:44:46  <dihedral> this was based on the original midi file: http://pub.dihedral.de/openttd/TTDThemeRemix01.mp3
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17:58:34  <Wolf01> o/
18:00:15  <nielsm> I'm running out of ideas for things to do with the music code
18:00:20  <nielsm> any suggestions?
18:01:09  <Wolf01> Make new music
18:03:10  <nielsm> that would take a couple years of practice before bearing any fruit :)
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18:04:00  <Wolf01> o/
18:04:03  <andythenorth> hi Wacko1976
18:04:05  <andythenorth> oops
18:04:12  <andythenorth> hi Wolf01 :P
18:04:19  <andythenorth> usually W gets me Wolf01 :P
18:04:41  <andythenorth> so have you tried the NRT save?
18:04:45  <LordAro> @seen Wacko1976
18:04:45  <DorpsGek> LordAro: I have not seen Wacko1976.
18:04:49  <LordAro> you're probably good
18:04:59  <ST2> he's shy ^^
18:05:00  <andythenorth> I have been working, but NRT sounds completely fucked :P
18:05:08  <Wolf01> Not yet
18:05:14  <andythenorth> I haven't verified the report yet
18:05:31  <Wolf01> TL;DR, what happened?
18:05:51  <andythenorth> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1204109#p1204109
18:06:10  <andythenorth> indeterminate behaviour
18:06:19  <andythenorth> some grfs don't work
18:06:33  <andythenorth> crashes on starting vehicles
18:06:47  <LordAro> sounds like a bug
18:06:52  <LordAro> :p
18:07:24  <Wolf01> That could be sure
18:07:27  <andythenorth> think I broke it
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18:07:55  <Wolf01> Using roadsets with NRT wasn't tested at all
18:08:10  <Wolf01> But roadsets with NRT are deprecated
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18:09:00  <Wolf01> The problem might be: why standard vehicles can't go on other roadtypes? I tested that and standard vehicles can go everywhere but HAUL
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18:17:10  <andythenorth> I should test :P
18:17:24  <andythenorth> right now I have my head in newgrf + feeding kids though :P
18:17:48  <Wolf01> Right now I don't have my head
18:18:26  <andythenorth> where's samu? o_O
18:18:36  <Wolf01> Don't call him
18:18:49  <Wolf01> I'm just back from work, uploaded the last bunch of lego pictures and now I want to take a shower
18:19:16  <andythenorth> :)
18:20:50  <Wolf01> Meh, missing 2 grfs, why aren't they on bananas yet?
18:20:55  <Wolf01> :P
18:24:37  <andythenorth> :(
18:24:49  <Wolf01> Ok, I seem I can't find moprv61
18:25:04  <Wolf01> Replace one I with it
18:26:34  <Wolf01> Ok, the other trolleybi topic
18:28:17  <Wolf01> Mmmh, the crash seem that one tile is not road, and a vehicle wants to enter it
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18:50:12  <Eddi|zuHause> i've had such a crash ages ago with a tram trying to enter a tile that was not tram (long before NRT)
18:53:39  <supermop_work> hm
18:53:46  <supermop_work> so not my fault?
18:55:32  <Eddi|zuHause> well, i suppose that crash got fixed back then
18:55:48  <Eddi|zuHause> but maybe it has similar causes
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19:04:25  <Wolf01> One thing is strange: I don't have any road vehicle available, never
19:04:26  <frosch123> any preference between titlegames of 1.1 and 1.3?
19:04:41  <frosch123> or should we annoy peter and reuse 1.4 :p
19:06:26  <Wolf01> supermop_work: I loaded only your 2 grfs, unspooled 21 and mop rv 61, no vehicles
19:06:49  <Wolf01> Year is 1950
19:06:54  <supermop_work> Wolf01: you have to enable them in parameters
19:07:02  <Wolf01> Holy shit
19:07:28  <supermop_work> frosch123: is there one with a tone of level crossings? or 1000 ships without bouys?
19:07:53  <frosch123> 1.4 is the one with continuous sound
19:08:15  <frosch123> all others have moments of silence
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19:18:59  <nielsm> why not make one that plays music via all the sounds
19:19:03  <nielsm> has to be possible
19:19:43  <frosch123> f already did that
19:19:58  <nielsm> good
19:23:13  <supermop_work> what about bouy-less ships crossing level crossings
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19:34:24  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27995 /branches/1.8 (bin/baseset/opntitle.dat src/misc_gui.cpp) (2018-03-21 20:34:17 +0100 )
19:34:25  <DorpsGek> [1.8] -Update: the intro game (Emperor Jake)
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19:39:55  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27996 /branches/1.8 (7 files in 4 dirs) (2018-03-21 20:39:49 +0100 )
19:39:56  <DorpsGek> [1.8] -Update: Documentation
19:40:21  <Wolf01> Mmmh I don't seem to be able to crash the game
19:41:10  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27997 tags/1.8.0-RC1/ (2018-03-21 20:41:03 +0100 )
19:41:11  <DorpsGek> -Release: 1.8.0-RC1
19:41:21  <Wolf01> Sure there is a strange problem in the save
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19:43:21  <andythenorth> are we doing 1.10.x?
19:43:25  <andythenorth> or 2.0.x?
19:43:26  <andythenorth> o_O
19:43:47  <nielsm> always a good question :D
19:44:00  <supermop_work> 1.A.x
19:44:21  <nielsm> comparing current version to 1.0 you could perhaps argue it should be called 4.x instead
19:44:49  <frosch123> name it by the main feature, the year :p
19:45:05  <nielsm> yeah ubuntu naming, 2018.3
19:45:40  <nielsm> Rotting Roundhouse
19:45:46  <Wolf01> supermop_work: 1.A.ii.3
19:46:16  <nielsm> Clanking Consolidation
19:48:29  * andythenorth reads changelog
19:50:42  <Wolf01> supermop_work: which trolleybus is dualpowered?
19:51:07  <andythenorth> hmm
19:51:15  <andythenorth> acs121 really irks me
19:51:27  <andythenorth> this is helping not at all https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1204121#p1204121
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20:04:14  <Wolf01> Mmmmh, trams work correctly with non-electric shortcut, road vehicles don't
20:04:56  <supermop_work> Wolf01: there are a few with dual mode in name, available from about 1990
20:05:10  <Wolf01> Ok, that was because they didn't have enough orders
20:05:25  <Wolf01> Adding another order fixed the weird behaviour
20:05:58  <supermop_work> andythenorth: mich auch
20:06:14  <Wolf01> I still can't get it to crash
20:06:38  <supermop_work> Wolf01: ive never been able to reproduce any of the NRT crashes
20:07:03  <Wolf01> Disabling the assert makes the game playable without any other problem
20:07:16  <Wolf01> Dunno how it was triggered
20:08:35  <Wolf01> All the route is stone paved with wires, the only vehicle is a bufo trolley bus
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20:09:29  <Wolf01> Saved the game after some play, let's see if it asserts again
20:10:11  <Wolf01> No, it works fine
20:10:55  <Wolf01> Ok, got another assert
20:12:42  <Wolf01> Oh... it might be the town growth
20:13:09  <supermop_work> never had an issue with town growth
20:13:10  <Wolf01> No
20:13:15  <Wolf01> Found it
20:13:29  <supermop_work> frosch123: wheres the 1.8 changelog?
20:13:44  <Wolf01> Pathfinding problems when it reaches a road crossing
20:14:17  <Wolf01> If you ignore (safely) the assert you can see where it triggers
20:14:32  <Wolf01> But I don't know why it tries to go where there isn't road
20:15:56  <Wolf01> Also it only trigger after visiting a certain stop, and continues to trigger at every crossing until the next stop
20:20:14  <supermop_work> is there a way to reproduce?
20:20:24  <supermop_work> ive never seen this happen
20:20:52  <Wolf01> The savegame makes it reproducible, I can't seem to be able to reproduce it on other games
20:23:49  <andythenorth> supermop_work: https://git.openttd.org/?p=tags/1.8.0-RC1.git;a=blob;f=changelog.txt;h=77a1a5848042b9a87a0d2a2b0dd6b00f91ac67aa;hb=fbb180cf98e1997681293d9a5193685b955c9309
20:23:59  <Wolf01> Ok, NPF is borked
20:24:08  <Wolf01> YAPF doesn't have problems
20:24:18  <Wolf01> As soon as I change to NPF it crashes
20:27:28  <Wolf01> The problem seem to be the A* of NPF which is trying to follow the wrong way for the roadtype
20:27:39  <andythenorth> oh we both posted :)
20:27:47  <Wolf01> First!
20:27:54  <andythenorth> is NPF simply not roadtype aware?
20:28:04  <andythenorth> or is it partially aware, and then broken :P
20:28:14  <Wolf01> It's well aware, but broken
20:28:30  <Wolf01> It is trying to get the subtype from a non-road tile
20:28:41  <supermop_work> so no nrt in 1.8 afterall huh
20:28:53  <Wolf01> Next year
20:29:01  <Wolf01> With backjack and hookers
20:29:31  <ST2> ** with benders voice**
20:29:45  <andythenorth> I am in no rush :P
20:29:59  <andythenorth> it would be nice if it's done, but I don't have a releasable NRT grf right now :P
20:30:37  <Wolf01> BTW, playing a short game I was already pissed off to not have "disable town growth" on highways
20:30:51  <supermop_work> :( now i have to work on RVs for a whole more year
20:30:59  <Wolf01> Hey town, don't mess with my highway
20:31:15  <supermop_work> Wolf01: newest version of spool has no growth on highway
20:31:26  <supermop_work> but i might have not released it yet
20:31:40  <Wolf01> The problem is that towns are still able to make junctions
20:32:14  <andythenorth> we could ban that?
20:32:14  <Wolf01> Mmmh "can't be built on slopes" flag
20:32:26  <andythenorth> road has owner?
20:32:31  <andythenorth> town is not owner?
20:32:52  <Wolf01> I placed the highway, so I was the owner
20:33:19  <andythenorth> no junctions for towns if the flag is set
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20:33:37  <Wolf01> The problem of ownership check is that it isn't reliable, as you can place highways on editor and the check will  fail
20:34:11  <Wolf01> Also bankruptcy
20:34:51  <Wolf01> *samu mode on* who is the NPF expert?
20:39:48  <andythenorth> can't we just remove NPF?
20:39:52  <supermop_work> Wolf01: just remove npf
20:39:58  <Wolf01> Lol
20:40:09  <andythenorth> Feature: removed NPF
20:40:19  <supermop_work> or make it the same as yapf but keep the name
20:40:31  <Wolf01> I fixed it
20:40:55  <Wolf01> Added "IsNormalRoadTile(dst_tile)"
20:41:14  <andythenorth> :)
20:41:47  <Wolf01> Dunno if could have problems with other tiles
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20:42:24  <Wolf01> But it doesn't seem to
20:42:36  <Wolf01> Ship it?
20:42:55  <Wolf01> We could revert it if shows up other problems
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20:46:39  <andythenorth> ship it
20:46:54  <Wolf01> Done
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21:01:26  <ST2> well, lets see if some bug pops up ^^
21:01:27  <ST2> https://www.openttd.org/en/server/91434
21:01:29  <ST2> :)
21:01:44  <ST2> started fine so, good job guys :)
21:01:49  <ST2> thatnk you :)
21:02:02  <ST2> -t
21:03:35  <andythenorth> poor grf choice :)
21:03:37  <andythenorth> Squid :P
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21:04:42  <ST2> eh
21:04:47  <ST2> to test xD
21:05:17  <frosch123> anyone wrote an haiku?
21:05:23  <ST2> but people enjoyed it on 1.7.2 - lets put them now on RC1 bug hunt ^^
21:07:28  <andythenorth> I should put Sam alpha on Bananas eh
21:07:32  <Wolf01> Mmmh
21:07:52  <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html
21:09:11  <ST2> usable in 1990 (game year)?
21:10:50  <andythenorth> probs
21:10:56  <andythenorth> there's no bananas release yet
21:19:27  <ST2> I always love to put YETI on newgrf list; people react as "wow, 200MB+... game is huge" :)
21:19:49  <ST2> bet V is doing the happy dance ;)
21:21:52  <Wolf01> andythenorth: should we ask to test NPF?
21:21:59  <andythenorth> yes
21:23:55  <Wolf01> Ok, posted
21:25:07  <andythenorth> thanks
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22:21:25  <andythenorth> bed
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22:37:33  <Wolf01> 'night
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