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Could the same thing be done for openttd but with 3d graphics instead? 04:17:25 <Eddi|zuHause> there was a really old transport tycoon for playstation game that was 3D, but i hear it was really bad otherwise 04:18:17 *** haudrauf has quit IRC 04:18:59 <Eddi|zuHause> there isn't really anything stopping you from adding a 3D engine to the game drawing code, but you'll not get far with trying to maintain compatibility with all the 2D NewGRFs out there 04:20:22 *** haudrauf has joined #openttd 04:20:29 <Eddi|zuHause> and if you're willing to scrap those, you're better off just starting a new game 04:20:43 <Eddi|zuHause> which people have done, and they called it "Transport Fever" 04:30:08 <rocky1138> Yeah that's interesting. I wonder if there's a way to build the 3d models dynamically from the 2d data in the NewGRF. I worked with a 3d voxel engine built by SOS that took a side view and a front view and built a 3d voxel model from it. 04:31:50 <rocky1138> Have you ever heard of 3dnes? https://geod.itch.io/3dnes 04:32:12 <rocky1138> Someone was able to generate 3d from 2d NES tiles 04:32:17 <rocky1138> Seems like magic 04:39:31 *** APTX has quit IRC 04:52:46 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i can totally see how you could build a 3d model from a front and side view, and i even think you could adapt that to the skewed views of vehicles, but then you have other stuff like buildings which only have one view, and station roofs which have curves and hidden areas below them, which you just cannot fill in properly 04:53:27 <Eddi|zuHause> you can make it work in some special cases, but there's really no way you can solve it in the general case 05:29:44 *** Cubey has quit IRC 05:37:11 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:00:39 *** APTX has joined #openttd 06:08:03 *** quiznilo has left #openttd 06:16:11 *** APTX has quit IRC 06:27:28 *** APTX has joined #openttd 06:34:22 *** keoz has joined #openttd 06:34:44 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 07:29:21 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:36:49 *** synchris has joined #openttd 07:44:25 <andythenorth> moin 07:54:36 *** Progman has joined #openttd 08:23:10 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 08:23:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 08:23:33 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 08:30:22 *** tokai has quit IRC 08:48:36 <peter1138> hello 08:57:33 <Pikka> zounds 09:08:42 <andythenorth> :o 09:08:45 <andythenorth> is a pikka 09:08:55 <Pikka> tis 09:09:17 <TrueBrain> is this the moment we start screaming running around naked in the neighourhood? :D 09:09:32 <andythenorth> only if Bjarni also turns up 09:09:49 <Pikka> I didn't know you'd stopped, TrueBrain 09:10:04 <TrueBrain> sssttt, that was our secret! 09:10:10 <andythenorth> so whatsup pikka? 09:10:19 <andythenorth> still BNE? 09:10:36 <Pikka> still BNE 09:10:43 <TrueBrain> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD-RC2/issues/14 <- is this an improvement? 09:11:50 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: looks pretty good to me 09:12:08 <peter1138> Dunno what it is an improvement over :p 09:12:16 <TrueBrain> s/RC2/RC/ 09:12:27 <TrueBrain> hmm .. escaping dots looks weird in URLs now :D 09:14:13 * Pikka bbl 09:14:17 *** Pikka has quit IRC 09:14:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 09:14:58 <TrueBrain> time to restart import, as I dont like what it is doing to dots :) 09:15:21 <LordAro> TrueBrain: i wonder if it actually needs a link to flyspray beyond the initial message 09:15:29 <LordAro> bit redundant, maybe? 09:15:44 <TrueBrain> this conversation has already been taken place :D 09:15:50 <TrueBrain> but no, not redundant. Each comment has an origin 09:15:51 <LordAro> not quite 09:15:54 <TrueBrain> it is important to mention the origin 09:16:06 <LordAro> that conversation was about removing the footer entirely 09:16:18 <LordAro> i was wondering about just the link 09:16:21 <TrueBrain> fair enough; bit tomato tomato to me :D 09:16:24 <TrueBrain> no, the link is the important part 09:16:30 <TrueBrain> each comment has a source; mention it 09:16:38 <TrueBrain> import can make mistakes etc :) 09:16:39 <LordAro> fair 09:16:51 <TrueBrain> better to allow people to click on it, and see what the source said 09:16:58 <TrueBrain> something something, research education, something 09:17:31 <andythenorth> all CABBAGE removed 09:17:33 * andythenorth making newgrf 09:17:46 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 09:18:23 <andythenorth> CABBAGE is the string that shows unrefactored things 09:18:54 <TrueBrain> hmm .. I remember why I didnt want get into this "change the body" shit .. it is shit to do right :P 09:19:18 <TrueBrain> a line that starts with ([\s]+)-, should be replaced with \- 09:19:22 <TrueBrain> you get shit like this ... 09:27:30 *** SnoppyBerlin has joined #openttd 09:28:31 <TrueBrain> okay, another attempt .. this time with less escaping, but enough to make it look pretty, I think .. 09:28:42 <TrueBrain> bonus: it fixes ticket links to GH now :D 09:28:56 *** SnoppyBerlin has quit IRC 09:28:58 <TrueBrain> (so FS#123 becomes #123) 09:29:34 <TrueBrain> 5 hours of import, GO :D 09:29:44 *** nielsm has quit IRC 09:32:36 <TrueBrain> now .. lets upgrade bamboo .. 09:35:17 <LordAro> :o 09:42:39 *** Pikka has joined #openttd 09:44:04 <TrueBrain> that host ... still .. runs wheezy ... lol 09:44:17 <TrueBrain> not enough memory to reinstall atm .. meh 09:44:43 <TrueBrain> git 1.7.10 .. lol .. yeah, that is going to be an issue :D 09:45:35 <peter1138> Wheezy :D 09:47:53 <TrueBrain> now the tricky part .. making sure we can still push out a new release, while also going forward :D 09:48:21 <Pikka> if you push it out backwards, you'll go forwards 09:48:31 <TrueBrain> Newtons law, I like it 09:48:39 <Pikka> innit 09:59:51 *** bwn has quit IRC 10:00:43 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 10:04:13 <LordAro> TrueBrain: nooo 10:06:03 *** bwn has joined #openttd 10:07:54 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:09:29 *** Cubey has quit IRC 10:13:43 *** Gja has joined #openttd 10:13:54 <TrueBrain> awh, skipping a version gives weird dependency issues with 'man' :D 10:32:50 <TrueBrain> and of course now grub doesnt want to install ... stupid grub always :P 10:34:34 <LordAro> oh dear 10:48:56 <TrueBrain> I always fail to recover from grub bullshit 10:49:07 <TrueBrain> but after punshing command often enough 10:49:09 <TrueBrain> it magically works 10:51:38 <TrueBrain> haha, my placeholder bug mentions #1234 .. so now 1234 is getting all the placeholder links :D 10:51:39 <TrueBrain> oops! 10:55:02 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 10:58:24 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 10:59:04 <TrueBrain> lets see if it reboots ... always the annoying part :D 10:59:35 <TrueBrain> fsck kicks in .. good sign I guess 11:07:01 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 11:09:18 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 11:09:25 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 11:12:37 *** APTX has quit IRC 11:22:56 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 11:25:03 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 11:36:12 *** Gja has quit IRC 11:40:29 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 11:40:38 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 11:50:21 *** APTX has joined #openttd 11:53:58 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 12:06:14 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 12:23:21 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 12:34:36 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 12:36:12 <TrueBrain> frosch123: in OpenTTD-RC2 there is a new issue import currently running; I hope I fixed a few annoyances 12:36:34 <TrueBrain> and you mentioned some issues with weird characters, but I couldnt find a ticket to test on .. so if you have any, lemme know :) 12:37:48 <frosch123> mostly 6355 was silly 12:39:15 *** haudrauf has quit IRC 12:39:48 <frosch123> hmm, how do github people do commit/push checks 12:39:54 <frosch123> like eol-style 12:40:02 <TrueBrain> you can hook those things into the repo 12:40:04 <frosch123> or do they just emprace the chaos of mixed eol? 12:40:07 <TrueBrain> you can toy with OpenTTD-RC a bit 12:40:12 <TrueBrain> create a bad PR and see what happens 12:40:15 <TrueBrain> no 12:40:17 <frosch123> i was looking through the settings 12:40:27 <frosch123> but only found webhooks for notifications 12:40:27 <TrueBrain> for example, I enabled the check that demands the PR being a FF 12:40:28 *** haudrauf has joined #openttd 12:40:56 <TrueBrain> go to Branches 12:40:58 <TrueBrain> click on Edit of Master 12:41:01 <TrueBrain> you have more options there 12:42:37 <TrueBrain> grrrr ... latest Bamboo needs MySQL 5.6 ... we run 5.5 12:42:38 <TrueBrain> seriously 12:43:26 <TrueBrain> no mention about that in the installation guide .. 12:44:07 <TrueBrain> so now I also have to update MySQL, and hope everything still magically works .... ugh .. 12:44:11 <TrueBrain> this can end in horrible tears :P 12:49:28 *** haudrauf has quit IRC 12:50:29 *** haudrauf has joined #openttd 12:52:33 <TrueBrain> frosch123: I also think you need a remote service to do those status stuff, but I never used it, so dunno .. 12:52:41 <TrueBrain> but first I now have to fix a MySQL being annoying as fuck 12:54:31 <Darkvater> can't believe you're still around TrueBrain 12:54:42 <Darkvater> and why am I still op? lol 12:54:43 <LordAro> osht 12:56:17 <TrueBrain> cant believe you are talking Darkvater :P 12:56:31 <TrueBrain> and that you still remember you credentials to IRC :P 12:56:33 *** haudrauf has quit IRC 12:56:33 <TrueBrain> how are you? :D 12:56:56 <TrueBrain> frosch123: I think https://github.com/marketplace has answers 12:56:58 <TrueBrain> no clue 12:57:11 <Darkvater> my credentials are saved. Would have no idea otherwise; haven't been here in years 12:57:13 <frosch123> well, i just read about .gitattributes 12:57:27 <frosch123> i was not aware that git had LF normalisation 12:57:50 <Darkvater> still a lurker, still thinking of getting back into ottd. However life caught up :) 12:57:52 <LordAro> yeah, that's really easy with git 12:58:07 <LordAro> also, core.autocrlf 12:58:11 <Darkvater> moved to HK about 6 years ago now 12:58:11 <LordAro> https://help.github.com/articles/dealing-with-line-endings/ 12:58:18 <TrueBrain> HK? 12:58:33 <frosch123> LordAro: my status was that only svn had that stuff, and everyone else said "fix your ide" 12:58:38 <TrueBrain> frosch123: but think about the whitespace at-end-of-line crap! :D 12:58:39 <Darkvater> crazy isn't it TrueBrain 12:58:52 <TrueBrain> why ... there?! 12:58:56 <TrueBrain> what happened?! :P 12:59:02 <TrueBrain> girl or work? :P 12:59:09 <Darkvater> my wife happened :p 12:59:14 <TrueBrain> :D 13:00:06 <TrueBrain> always a valid reason ... ;) 13:01:02 <Darkvater> I actually still have the code checked out. This game is so addictive 13:01:10 <TrueBrain> can a MySQL 5.5 client connect to a MySQL 5.7 server .. hmmmmmm 13:01:13 <TrueBrain> hahahaha :D 13:01:25 <TrueBrain> your credentials should also still be there, so you can just start pushing patches :P 13:02:18 <TrueBrain> ah, no, that is a lie 13:02:26 <TrueBrain> we cleaned up a few months (years?) ago :P 13:02:41 <Darkvater> :) probably a good thing 13:02:47 <frosch123> probably when switching from svn to ssh+svn 13:02:55 <Darkvater> my C/C++ skills have become way too rusty 13:02:58 <TrueBrain> no, switching to LDAP I think :P 13:02:59 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 13:03:06 <TrueBrain> you are all into PHP now? :D 13:03:13 <Darkvater> fuck that 13:03:16 <Darkvater> worse 13:03:18 <Darkvater> java 13:03:27 <TrueBrain> I was afraid you were going to say dotnet 13:03:33 <TrueBrain> Java is okayish, I guess 13:04:20 <TrueBrain> I am back to C .. been doing Python for a few years now .. so happy to write C again :D 13:04:53 <Darkvater> the best part is: I've never wanted to do Java and look where I'm now. 13:05:07 <TrueBrain> a language is just a language :) 13:05:08 <Darkvater> cant' stand python either. indentation drives me nuts 13:05:17 * Darkvater is moaning like a proper old man 13:05:27 <TrueBrain> as long as the job is good, and the people around you are passable :P 13:05:36 <TrueBrain> Belugas would be proud! 13:05:53 <Darkvater> hehe 13:06:04 <Darkvater> I see Bjarni's fame is eternal 13:06:20 <TrueBrain> @seen Bjarni 13:06:20 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 6 years, 24 weeks, 2 days, 12 hours, 47 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh 13:06:45 <frosch123> oh, it is not the piano quote? 13:07:09 <frosch123> i thought the last quote was a link to a yt video about someone throwing pianos with a custom trebuchet 13:07:25 <Darkvater> I missed irc 13:07:44 <TrueBrain> social visit; bbl 13:07:57 <frosch123> i am sure, when tb is done with git, he will start bothering with discord 13:08:12 <LordAro> @seen Belugas 13:08:12 <DorpsGek> LordAro: Belugas was last seen in #openttd 51 weeks, 0 days, 16 hours, 49 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <Belugas> yeah, a birthday :) a good friend of mine! 13:08:32 <Darkvater> random question: anyone used lizardfs? 13:08:49 <Darkvater> I'm looking for a distributed fs to setup my own private cloud using sbc's 13:13:24 *** haudrauf has joined #openttd 13:22:10 *** haudrauf has quit IRC 13:27:06 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 13:38:53 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 13:39:59 *** haudrauf has joined #openttd 13:47:57 *** supermop has joined #openttd 13:48:30 *** Flygon has quit IRC 13:49:29 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 13:50:25 <andythenorth_> channel is time machine today 13:50:50 <andythenorth_> both ways 13:51:19 <andythenorth_> ottd catches up with future 13:51:30 <andythenorth_> old ottd people return :p 13:54:40 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 13:55:13 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:02:33 <TrueBrain> frosch123: I tried Discord already .. nobody seemed interested :P 14:02:38 <TrueBrain> +pushing, in there 14:02:58 <TrueBrain> MySQL might go awol for a bit of time ... lets see if it still supports all the DB schemes we use .. 14:05:57 <TrueBrain> frosch123: as OVH is no longer sponsering, do you mind if I remove the OVH stuff from the main page? Or do we have a reason to keep it atm? 14:06:29 <frosch123> no, everyone was wating for someone to do it :) 14:06:34 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 14:07:10 <andythenorth_> we could make a new website :p 14:07:29 <frosch123> everyone gladly assigns that project to you :) 14:07:56 <frosch123> anyway, after 1.8 i actually want to look into a new bananas 14:08:28 <TrueBrain> and it is gone 14:09:00 <andythenorth_> I am happy to help 14:09:00 <andythenorth_> anything I do looks like Bootstrap mind 14:09:00 <andythenorth_> but that’s ok 14:09:12 <andythenorth_> also I need a project to learn SASS 14:09:21 <andythenorth_> currently I use LESS 14:09:52 <andythenorth_> but SASS won and my day job needs to switch 14:10:07 <TrueBrain> yup .. 14:10:10 <TrueBrain> still sad about that :P 14:10:13 <frosch123> i actually do not know why we have a website :p 14:10:27 <andythenorth_> because reasons 14:10:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 14:10:46 <andythenorth_> we just need a couple of static pages imho 14:11:06 <andythenorth_> bbl 14:12:21 <TrueBrain> I think I murdered a VM :( 14:13:19 <TrueBrain> it happens to run MySQL .. it might be a thing ... 14:14:14 *** andythen_ has joined #openttd 14:15:30 <TrueBrain> some magic later ... STILL ALIVE 14:16:28 <Eddi|zuHause> are you now breaking stuff on purpose just to appear as ahero fixing it? 14:17:19 <frosch123> he does not have access to the power plug 14:17:34 <TrueBrain> I have no clue what I am doing, but it is doing something 14:17:39 <frosch123> the physical power plug 14:17:41 <TrueBrain> I just have a vague end-goal 14:17:54 <frosch123> postgres? 14:17:56 <frosch123> :p 14:18:17 <TrueBrain> not a bad idea 14:18:21 <TrueBrain> but no .. I just want Bamboo 6 14:18:24 <TrueBrain> all I am asking for 14:19:09 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 14:20:00 <TrueBrain> as that means I can run Dockers as build-jobs 14:22:17 *** andythen_ has quit IRC 14:26:15 <TrueBrain> there are funny things you can add to the PR process on GH 14:26:24 <TrueBrain> coverage checks, but also security checks 14:28:45 <Pikka> yes we have new bananas? 14:30:53 <TrueBrain> I wonder if we should replace our own SSO with GitHub ... 14:31:06 <TrueBrain> as people dont need an account anymore for anything except editing the wiki I guess 14:31:53 <TrueBrain> owh, and eints 14:32:07 <TrueBrain> Feature Request: allow login on eints via GitHub! 14:32:56 <TrueBrain> owh, and BaNaNaS ofc .. pfft 14:33:07 <TrueBrain> too many services which require authentication :P 14:37:50 *** supermop has quit IRC 14:46:20 <TrueBrain> grub is weird ... exact same issue on this VM as other, same steps dont fix it ... weeiiirrrrddddd 14:46:39 <LordAro> grub does tend to be pretty magic 14:47:15 <LordAro> can't say i've ever had any issues with it on VMs though 14:48:00 <Eddi|zuHause> grub scares me every time 14:48:45 <Eddi|zuHause> on my last system update i was greeted with a "grub rescue>" prompt and a message like "module <whatever> not found" 14:49:06 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it was "symbol not found" 14:51:31 <TrueBrain> okay ........ update-grub -> fails. update-grub --help, shows help. update-grub again, works .. 14:51:33 <TrueBrain> WUTH?! 14:58:20 <TrueBrain> owh, it also changed it into MariaDB 14:58:22 <TrueBrain> what-ever 14:58:33 <TrueBrain> lets see if everything works :) 14:58:55 <TrueBrain> seems to 14:59:37 <TrueBrain> now the MySQL is running again .. lets try to fix grub .. I hate this day :P 14:59:40 <TrueBrain> I wanted to be productive :D 15:07:55 <LordAro> :D 15:08:53 <TrueBrain> very weird issue .. if I execute it by hand, it works fine .. 15:09:06 <TrueBrain> *adds sleep 5* 15:09:07 <TrueBrain> works 15:09:09 <TrueBrain> ... 15:09:10 <TrueBrain> *facepalm* 15:09:26 <LordAro> oh dear 15:10:05 <TrueBrain> lets try a reboot .. 15:11:10 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 15:12:37 <TrueBrain> okay ... it should be back on its feet ... 15:13:18 <TrueBrain> let me know if anything is not working properly on openttd.org plz :) 15:15:14 <frosch123> is farm supposed to work already? 15:15:31 <TrueBrain> no 15:15:40 <TrueBrain> lolz ... okay, so I went through this trouble to get MySQL 5.6 15:15:47 <TrueBrain> turns out Debian wanted to install MariaDB .. what-ever 15:15:51 <TrueBrain> I assumed that would do the trick 15:15:56 <TrueBrain> turns out .. that reports itself as 5.5 15:16:19 <frosch123> haha :) 15:16:32 <Eddi|zuHause> none of what you said made any sense 15:16:52 <TrueBrain> I would consider that an issue on your side ;) 15:17:09 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 15:17:21 <TrueBrain> 5.5.9999 .. lol 15:18:05 <TrueBrain> now lets hope the database is still compatible ... 15:20:44 <TrueBrain> it would have been easier to setup a new database tbfh .. 15:22:57 <TrueBrain> and that moment it wants to reset the root password of the database ... wuuuttthhh?! 15:26:25 <TrueBrain> longest openttd.org downtime in years :P 15:28:39 <LordAro> this is what you get for not maintaining the systems for years :p 15:28:56 <TrueBrain> they are maintained; be careful with your remarks there 15:29:09 <LordAro> eh 15:29:10 <TrueBrain> I just had no intention to ever upgrade passed 5.5 for MySQL 15:29:20 <LordAro> i would consider updating them part of maintenance 15:29:21 <TrueBrain> (not as long as we run Django 1.2) 15:29:29 <TrueBrain> there is update, and upgrade 15:29:36 <TrueBrain> there is mainainted, and state-of-the-art 15:30:47 <TrueBrain> owh, jolly good ... mysql start doesnt tell me why it fails to start .. it just doesnt start 15:35:44 <TrueBrain> LordAro: but make no mistakes that most VMs have had their security updates etc .. it is easy to judge from the side .. but just be careful .. 1 thng about SysOp work: people always bitch about what you don't do, they never compliment on what you DO do .. not really ... motivational 15:35:55 <TrueBrain> (and I say this to you, but it holds to a few more people in this channel) 15:36:27 * Eddi|zuHause hides 15:38:59 *** supermop has joined #openttd 15:39:03 <TrueBrain> it seems MySQL 5.7 is wire compatible with 5.5 :P 15:40:13 <Rubidium> that's sadly the eternal problem of utility jobs, and yes I count IT in the same category as water, electricity and gas 15:40:27 <TrueBrain> or construction ;) 15:40:48 <TrueBrain> I only bitch to the builders of my house ... :D 15:41:10 <Rubidium> to the builders, or the management of the builders? ;) 15:41:17 <supermop> not to your architect? 15:41:27 <TrueBrain> management, fair enough :) 15:41:32 <supermop> you are supposed to hire an architect to bitch to them 15:41:41 <TrueBrain> I aint hiring an architect 15:41:43 <supermop> then it's the architect's problem 15:41:46 <supermop> :( 15:42:02 <LordAro> TrueBrain: well now i feel bad 15:42:10 <LordAro> i should know better, of course 15:42:17 <supermop> our fee structure is based on us taking the abuse from both client and contractor 15:42:47 <LordAro> TrueBrain: did not mean to imply anything by my words, my apologies 15:43:02 <TrueBrain> LordAro: accepted :) No worries .. sometimes I am just annoyed :P 15:43:02 <LordAro> i do tend to go for the "move fast and break things" type of sysadmining 15:43:24 <Rubidium> so you're running gentoo? 15:43:25 <TrueBrain> good thing is that Bamboo is now working .. finally 15:43:39 <LordAro> Rubidium: i'm not quite that mad 15:43:41 <LordAro> Arch :p 15:43:44 <supermop> though i am in proces of quitting my job as architect to work for a developer, so i will then get to abuse the architects 15:45:00 <LordAro> speaking of, ooh, clang6 15:45:40 <TrueBrain> now where are my agents! :@ 15:46:28 <TrueBrain> they ... crashed .. lol 15:49:03 <TrueBrain> okay .. the build-agents I dont dare to upgrade, as I am afraid no binaries will ever again come out of it :D 15:49:15 <TrueBrain> frosch123: farm is online again :D 15:49:29 <TrueBrain> I forgot .. we still build simutrans nightlies :D 15:49:47 <Rubidium> and ttdp, right? 15:49:52 <TrueBrain> nope 15:50:00 <TrueBrain> we stopped doing that long long long ago not? 15:50:03 <TrueBrain> are they still alive? 15:50:24 <Rubidium> well, I guess we stopped that during the migration to bamboo then 15:50:35 <TrueBrain> I think we stopped as there were no commits :P 15:51:55 <frosch123> yay \o/, now we just need a commit of the day to test it 15:52:32 <TrueBrain> now going to install docker slaves 15:52:58 <TrueBrain> and link them to GH 15:58:40 *** keoz has quit IRC 15:59:13 <TrueBrain> Bamboo wants the password of the GitHub account :o 15:59:18 <TrueBrain> tokens dont work ... wuth?! 15:59:59 <TrueBrain> ah ... no, they do, pfew 16:19:37 <TrueBrain> weird .. GitHub and Bamboo integrate, but not on PR level 16:21:51 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 16:30:26 <peter1138> hi 16:41:19 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:42:52 <TrueBrain> grr, the GitHub Status plugin for Bamboo is not available for the latest Bamboo :D 16:52:23 <TrueBrain> ha! Works :D 16:59:20 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 17:00:33 <TrueBrain> now how do we get PRs to work ... 17:03:50 <TrueBrain> seems I do need a custom script for that .. ugh 17:07:41 <TrueBrain> oaky, this needs more work than I would expect ... I really expected things to be a bit further along in terms of integration 17:22:17 <rocky1138> where are you reading this? 17:24:14 <TrueBrain> on the interwebz? Your question is a bit too vague 17:32:16 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:32:37 <Wolf01> o/ 17:32:53 *** Chucky2 has joined #openttd 17:33:14 <sim-al2> is anyone else not seeing results from https://www.openttd.org/en/servers ? 17:33:39 <Chucky2> it seems that master-server is down .. 17:34:01 <TrueBrain> poor Master Server .. 17:34:06 <TrueBrain> he didnt survive the MySQL upgrade? :( 17:34:43 <Wolf01> It sure hates you for that 17:35:20 <TrueBrain> SELECT list is not in GROUP BY clause blablabla 17:35:41 <sim-al2> "people always bitch about what you don't do, they never compliment on what you DO do" 17:35:50 <TrueBrain> :D 17:35:51 * sim-al2 gets introspective 17:36:17 <sim-al2> heh whoops 17:41:34 *** Chucky2 has left #openttd 17:43:25 <TrueBrain> okay, 2 unrelated errors because of the 5.7 upgrade .. one is a more strict approach of MySQL queries 17:43:27 <TrueBrain> that is solved 17:43:35 <TrueBrain> the other is that the tables need an upgrade .. which is tricky :D 17:44:03 <TrueBrain> just 30 MiB of table data, but it is still busy trying to do it :D 17:44:27 <Rubidium> didn't the master server survive? The author of that must have messed up seriously 17:44:41 <TrueBrain> the author just messed up some SQL knowledge :D 17:44:56 <TrueBrain> the rest is just MySQL being silly 17:46:44 <TrueBrain> hmm .. it still wants a table upgrade ... 17:51:58 <Wolf01> https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aR37gRA_460sv.mp4 lol, we should make this 17:54:06 <TrueBrain> the tables are invalid :D 17:54:07 <TrueBrain> owh boy 17:55:10 <TrueBrain> 2 default values are wrong; I cannot change 1 because the other is invalid. Euh ... yes ... fml 17:56:16 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 17:58:32 <TrueBrain> dammit, needs a code update :) 18:00:10 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 18:00:36 <TrueBrain> 0000-00-00 00:00:00 is no longer a valid DATETIME 18:00:38 <TrueBrain> I mean .. seriously 18:00:44 <Wolf01> No, it's not 18:01:05 <Wolf01> 0000-01-01 is 18:02:02 <TrueBrain> no, it's not 18:02:04 <TrueBrain> 1000-01-01 is 18:03:03 <TrueBrain> where can I find the functions via phpmyadmin... 18:09:14 <TrueBrain> well, first some food .. MSU is offline till then I guess :( 18:12:47 <TrueBrain> lol .. it tries to fix an ARCHIVE .. it wont succeed :D 18:13:08 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:13:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:14:06 <TrueBrain> it is once again marked as crashed ... I really hate the ARCHIVE shit we started to use :P 18:14:09 <TrueBrain> owh well, first food I said 18:21:04 <Wolf01> Make a new table, copy data, delete old table, rename table 18:22:38 <Wolf01> Don't forget to disable foreign keys first :P 18:23:29 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 18:27:16 *** Oletimer has joined #openttd 18:30:39 <Oletimer> I'm having a problem with OTTD, when I build new trains to carry either mail or pax, they won't load at stations even tho the station has many hundred of both available, any suggestions please? 18:31:21 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to refit them first (unless you have wagons capable of autorefit) 18:31:48 <Eddi|zuHause> also, you should check whether you have cargo distribution enabled, then the cargo may want to go to a different destination 18:31:50 <Wolf01> Or if enabled cargodist, check if the cargo wants to go to the trains' destinations 18:32:16 <Wolf01> Eddi is always faster than me :P 18:32:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't hear that very often :p 18:33:08 <TrueBrain> okay, MSU is back on its feet :) 18:33:27 <Oletimer> Ok, thanks guys, I'll check that out, whats the best setting to ensure even distribution? 18:35:07 <glx> could be the orders too 18:36:46 <Eddi|zuHause> for passengers and mail it should be symmetric, and if you feel your trains are too congested you may tweak the distance penalty 18:36:47 <Oletimer> I'll see what I can change, although the earlier trains will load, it's only new trains that won't load? 18:37:03 <Eddi|zuHause> do you use shared orders? 18:37:29 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 18:37:38 <Oletimer> not sure i know what shared orders are, sorry 18:39:01 <Eddi|zuHause> if two trains go to the same stations, you can share their orders, by ctrl+click on the other train instead of the destination station when assigning orders 18:39:22 <Eddi|zuHause> that way, it will be easier to modify all trains that share the orders 18:39:37 <TrueBrain> ugh, recovering the Archive database is really shitty .. only 1/8th of the data can be recovered by normal means 18:39:53 <Eddi|zuHause> who needs archives anyway 18:40:11 <TrueBrain> it contains the bananas downloads .. which we used to make a timeline of business 18:40:16 <Oletimer> I've only been using TT about 20 years and it still amazes me what I don't know about it 18:40:17 <TrueBrain> I doubt that script has run in a very long time tbh 18:40:44 <Eddi|zuHause> that happens to the best of us :p 18:42:15 <Oletimer> so, if I 'share' the orders of one the 'old' trains with a new one it should behave normally? 18:42:43 <Eddi|zuHause> it might be, i'm a little fuzzy on the details of cargodist 18:43:37 <Oletimer> ok, i'll try it anyway, thanks 18:44:02 *** Oletimer has quit IRC 18:58:00 * Wolf01 > pub 19:08:53 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 19:10:39 *** Pikka has quit IRC 19:15:06 *** supermop has quit IRC 19:15:31 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 19:40:36 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 19:48:23 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 20:26:58 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:34:29 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:37:40 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 20:40:18 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 20:41:18 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 20:43:11 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 20:47:25 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 20:49:54 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 20:52:26 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 20:59:07 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 21:00:45 *** Gja has quit IRC 21:10:06 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 21:30:20 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:33:43 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 21:41:55 *** glx has quit IRC 22:00:13 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 22:20:28 *** glx has joined #openttd 22:20:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 22:50:20 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 22:53:42 *** Gja has joined #openttd 23:04:08 *** gelignite has quit IRC 23:05:44 *** nielsm has quit IRC 23:07:06 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 23:07:47 *** supermop has joined #openttd 23:09:55 *** synchris has quit IRC 23:12:38 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:14:11 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 23:23:50 *** Gja has quit IRC 23:28:29 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 23:31:22 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 23:37:27 <Wolf01> 'night 23:37:30 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:39:50 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:44:20 *** GT has joined #openttd 23:44:34 *** haudrauf has quit IRC 23:45:06 <GT> In multiplayer I don't see any server, is that a known problem? 23:48:19 *** GT has quit IRC 23:52:03 *** GT has joined #openttd 23:53:29 <GT> I don't see any multiplayer server, what is wrong? 23:55:23 <GT> Internet connection is OK, check online content too, but no mplayerservers are shown 23:55:49 *** GT has quit IRC 23:55:54 *** GT has joined #openttd 23:56:09 <GT> !who 23:57:01 <GT> Is this chat even functional? 23:57:29 *** GT has quit IRC