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:D 17:50:53 <Wolf01> *wich 17:52:32 <TrueBrain> the one that is linked to donations :) Now lets try to never get it charged with anything :) 17:52:39 <TrueBrain> they still didnt reply on my request for sponsoring :) 17:56:25 *** Progman_ has joined #openttd 18:01:35 *** Progman has quit IRC 18:01:46 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 18:04:15 <andythenorth> but is cat? 18:05:59 <TrueBrain> Duration: 0.9ms; Billed: 100ms 18:06:01 <TrueBrain> PFFT :P 18:08:45 <andythenorth> are we buying AWS? 18:08:56 <TrueBrain> not as far as I am aware 18:09:06 <TrueBrain> I am however looking into what they can offer us 18:09:20 <TrueBrain> but a lot of things are totally free 18:09:28 <andythenorth> we use AWS for Jenkins, via some spot pricing thing 18:09:36 <andythenorth> which is sometimes free for n nodes I think 18:09:48 <TrueBrain> currently I want to hook GitHub to our Bamboo 18:10:02 <TrueBrain> 2 choices: either start your own HTTPd, add something to handle the API call, etc 18:10:05 <TrueBrain> or use AWS :P 18:10:13 <andythenorth> AWS :P 18:10:24 <TrueBrain> in the current setup, it can handle 100k commits per month for free :D 18:10:38 <TrueBrain> but AWS is a bit .. difficult to learn .. lot of ambigious sentences etc 18:10:55 <andythenorth> hmm we use this https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/compute/new-amazon-ec2-spot-pricing/ 18:11:11 <andythenorth> we have 20 or so nodes on it for Jenkins 18:12:15 <andythenorth> AWS is confusing as all hell though 18:12:36 <andythenorth> AFAICT, Rackspace have pretty much shifted their entire business model to 'helping you buy AWS' 18:13:10 <TrueBrain> took a bit of time to understand where stuff ends up etc :D 18:13:22 <TrueBrain> what is annoying, that you have to save your Lambda function before you can test it, so it seems 18:18:41 <TrueBrain> weird .. the SNS on GitHub doesn't work .. thatis .. Test works .. but ... nothing else :( 18:20:48 <TrueBrain> ugh, by default it only does push .. stupid ... but in the UI no way to change .. 18:21:25 <TrueBrain> that is just plain stupid 18:33:54 <Eddi|zuHause> now where do we get 100k commits from the next month? 18:36:25 <TrueBrain> good luck with that :) 18:38:00 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 18:39:29 <Wolf01> Merge NRT, maybe you have more than 100 commits 18:40:44 <andythenorth> does it have a bug or not? :P 18:40:51 <andythenorth> I don't understand the forum thread comments :P 18:42:04 <Wolf01> Neither do I 18:42:20 <andythenorth> what is this stuff about other road sets 18:42:25 <Wolf01> One crashes everytime, the other never had a crash since we fixed the latest bug 18:42:27 <andythenorth> I don't understand how that relates 18:42:44 <andythenorth> also I don't understand how plane newgrfs etc are relevant 18:42:57 <andythenorth> I would discount reports from those who don't seem to have a clue 18:43:09 <supermop_work_> indeed 18:43:13 <Wolf01> Standard road vehicles should be able to use all the ROAD compatible roads 18:43:39 <supermop_work_> maybe its old road grfs that are the issue 18:43:47 <supermop_work_> like na roads or whatever 18:44:13 <Wolf01> Maybe, but why use those? Make a NRT grf with those inside 18:44:43 <Wolf01> NRT makes all old roadsetd deprecated 18:45:27 <supermop_work_> are those what are causing the crash? i cant understand anything from the forum post 18:45:54 <Wolf01> Dunno, I didn't try them 18:47:48 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 18:54:23 *** roidal has joined #openttd 18:57:13 *** Thedarkb1 has joined #openttd 18:59:52 <Wolf01> Lol, loaded ARRS and it put asphalt curbs on dirt roads 19:00:33 <supermop_work_> yass 19:01:41 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 19:03:57 <Eddi|zuHause> while NRT kinda makes the old road sets redundant, there's no reason why they shouldn't work anymore 19:04:23 <Wolf01> But they work, they are just ugly combined 19:05:12 <Eddi|zuHause> the user should have all the liberty to make ugly combinations 19:06:19 <Wolf01> So far no crashes, saved and reloaded the game 19:06:50 <Wolf01> But I found a bug 19:07:10 <Wolf01> RVs on stations have speed 0 after loading the game 19:08:30 <Wolf01> Or better, RVs stopped have speed 0 after loading, even if they were queued 19:09:10 <Wolf01> Stopping and starting them seem to fix the problem, so it might be something related to the cache 19:10:03 <andythenorth> I am not convinced that my cache invalidation 'fixes' were correct 19:10:25 <Wolf01> Maybe they are needed on saveload too 19:10:30 <Eddi|zuHause> so you don't properly rebuild the cache upon loading? 19:11:14 <andythenorth> frosch's proposal to unify the two caching functions might be worth considering 19:12:28 <Wolf01> Ok, it crashed upon closing the game 19:13:12 <andythenorth> :| 19:13:14 <Wolf01> minkernel\crts\ucrt\src\appcrt\lowio\close.cpp ? 19:15:48 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't sound like openttd code 19:19:53 <Wolf01> Ok, cargochanged on afterload fixes the problem 19:22:11 <Wolf01> I'll put it into InitializeWindowsAndCaches() 19:23:09 <Wolf01> Seem to work fine 19:23:52 <Wolf01> Maybe it slows down loading a game with 5000 RVs 19:23:58 <Wolf01> But heh 19:28:59 <andythenorth> I should unfuck Road Hog and test NRT :( 19:29:16 <andythenorth> that means I have to actually learn hg properly 19:29:27 <andythenorth> or learn how to set up a compile farm 19:29:27 <Wolf01> Yes 19:29:43 <andythenorth> or learn how to switch coop farm to git 19:30:00 <andythenorth> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yak_shaving 19:30:13 <andythenorth> see also https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/when_you%27re_up_to_your_neck_in_alligators,_it%27s_hard_to_remember_that_your_initial_objective_was_to_drain_the_swamp#English 19:31:08 <Wolf01> Pushed a fuck... ehm a fix :P 19:38:05 *** supermop_work_ has quit IRC 19:38:54 <andythenorth> got it 19:39:01 <andythenorth> need to merge ottd trunk in too 19:39:14 *** Taede has quit IRC 19:43:30 *** Taede has joined #openttd 19:43:36 *** roidal has quit IRC 19:43:43 *** Pikka has joined #openttd 19:56:02 <andythenorth> lo bobb 20:00:27 <Pikka> oh hello 20:05:00 <Wolf01> https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/abMVqpX_460s.jpg ha! 20:09:55 <andythenorth> that is so wrong :P 20:11:49 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 20:13:59 * andythenorth continues playing OpenTTD :P 20:14:28 <Pikka> https://i.imgur.com/4DxkhYF.png d o u b l e s i z e :D 20:14:39 <Wolf01> Niiiiice 20:15:18 <Wolf01> It looks like a train now :PpPpPp 20:15:45 <Pikka> thank goodness for that :P 20:15:46 <andythenorth> wow 20:15:59 <andythenorth> shame about the base set :) 20:16:03 <andythenorth> but the train is great 20:18:16 <Pikka> drawing UKRS at an even smaller scale than normal was a silly idea, why didn't anyone stop me? 20:28:42 <andythenorth> you seemed to know what you were doing :P 20:29:05 <andythenorth> for my UKRS 3, I am making your sprites bigger ;P 20:29:58 <TrueBrain> hmmm .. now the question of the day ... how do you checkout a PR in GitHub .. 20:30:49 <LordAro> pull/ID/head 20:32:27 <TrueBrain> which annoyingly doesnt work during cloning .. 20:32:33 <TrueBrain> which I dont understand :( 20:32:57 <Pikka> hmmmmm 20:33:05 <Pikka> what does ctrl-D do in openttd? 20:33:11 <Pikka> apart from crash the game? 20:33:12 <TrueBrain> in debug mode? 20:33:15 <andythenorth> screenshot? 20:33:29 <TrueBrain> didnt that do a null-pointer reference, so the game crashes? 20:33:46 *** keoz has quit IRC 20:34:10 <TrueBrain> I wonder if Bamboo is the tool for this job .. hmm ... 20:34:35 <TrueBrain> we want to be able to compile multiple forks (and their PR) as much as ours 20:34:45 <TrueBrain> Bamboo configuration cannot be read from a git repo or something .. 20:35:38 * andythenorth reads 'bamboo vs. jenkins' 20:36:53 <andythenorth> well according to Atlassian, Bamboo is the weapon of choice 20:36:56 <andythenorth> and super awesome 20:37:03 <TrueBrain> haah 20:37:09 *** RafiX has quit IRC 20:38:04 <LordAro> not the most unbiased person in the world 20:38:11 <Pikka> ctrl-d appears to take a screenshot when at normal zoom, and crash otherwise. ctrl-s always successfully takes a screenshot. 20:38:30 <LordAro> i'd suggest that's unintentional 20:39:18 <Pikka> r27994. Message: Assertion failed at line 356 of ..\src\blitterbpp_anim.cpp 20:39:47 <TrueBrain> Pikka: I guess you will have to make a bug report :) 20:39:53 <Pikka> damn 20:40:02 <TrueBrain> problem with most of Atlassian products, their configuration is just annoying 20:42:10 <TrueBrain> their idea of configuration-as-code, is a wrapper around the API 20:42:16 <TrueBrain> what travis did, is much more sane/useful 20:45:52 <Pikka> TrueBrain: can I make a bug report about account.openttd.org? :P 20:48:42 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:50:35 <TrueBrain> you can; but I doubt it will be processed :) 20:52:58 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 20:54:01 *** beno has joined #openttd 20:55:38 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 21:00:41 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 21:02:31 * andythenorth needs some names for trucks 21:06:39 <TrueBrain> Bamboo doesn't even support API tokens :( 21:15:03 <Pikka> what sort of trucks, andythenorth? 21:15:14 <andythenorth> Fruit & Veg 21:15:24 <andythenorth> the trams are called Applethwaite 21:15:28 <andythenorth> and Plumley 21:16:36 <Pikka> era? 21:16:48 <andythenorth> 1920 - 1990 21:17:01 <andythenorth> I think they're named after RL quarries or woods 21:17:05 <andythenorth> can't remember 21:17:43 <andythenorth> http://www.oswestry-borderland-heritage.co.uk/?page=60 21:18:07 <Pikka> hmmm :) 21:18:47 <andythenorth> https://www.mindat.org/loc-222160.html 21:18:52 <andythenorth> easy peasy 21:18:53 <andythenorth> ha ha 21:18:54 <andythenorth> peas 21:19:09 * andythenorth looks for pea quarry 21:19:37 *** synchris has quit IRC 21:28:21 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 21:28:21 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 21:29:56 <andythenorth> also bed 21:29:57 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:30:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 21:38:57 *** test12345 has quit IRC 21:50:42 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:50:57 *** keoz has joined #openttd 21:56:44 *** supermop has joined #openttd 22:18:16 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 22:21:12 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:26:28 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 22:29:08 *** beno has quit IRC 22:36:19 *** GT has joined #openttd 22:41:17 <Wolf01> 'night 22:41:22 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:42:39 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:43:16 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 22:43:56 *** bwn has quit IRC 22:46:18 *** bwn has joined #openttd 23:09:58 *** keoz has quit IRC 23:15:45 *** GT has quit IRC 23:30:47 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:32:29 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 23:54:43 *** Flygon has joined #openttd