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00:01:43 <Thedarkb1-X40> YAPF is great but when it goes wrong it makes me want to kill people. 00:08:11 *** KouDy has quit IRC 00:47:05 *** Cthulhux has quit IRC 01:00:07 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest3825 01:00:09 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 01:04:09 *** Guest3825 has quit IRC 01:04:20 *** dreadnot has quit IRC 01:14:39 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 01:21:43 *** KouDy has quit IRC 01:41:32 *** Laedek has quit IRC 01:42:44 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 01:51:11 *** beno__ has joined #openttd 01:55:58 *** Thedarkb1-X40 has quit IRC 02:07:18 *** Mazur has quit IRC 02:15:41 *** Mazur has joined #openttd 02:17:10 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:18:38 *** muffindrake has joined #openttd 02:20:28 *** muffindrake4 has quit IRC 02:47:23 *** KennyleinAZ01AS has joined #openttd 02:47:24 <KennyleinAZ01AS> IRC.SUPERNETS.ORG #SUPERBOWL MEMORIAL DAY PARTY PLEASE NO NIGGERS 02:47:24 <KennyleinAZ01AS> IRC.SUPERNETS.ORG #SUPERBOWL MEMORIAL DAY PARTY PLEASE NO NIGGERS 02:47:32 <KennyleinAZ01AS> NO NOIGGAS NO CHNIGGERS BNIGGGASBERE DMONKEYS 02:47:32 <KennyleinAZ01AS> NO NOIGGAS NO CHNIGGERS BNIGGGASBERE DMONKEYS 02:47:40 <KennyleinAZ01AS> YLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL LOLLOL R YOURMOMISAFATNIGGERYOUR MOMISA WHOREILOLDLOLLOLLOLSUPERNETS ISDDOSPROOF NICEITRYFAGGOTSLOL LOLLOLLOLLOLSLOLLOL LOLLOLKEKKEK KEK 02:47:40 <KennyleinAZ01AS> YLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL LOLLOL R YOURMOMISAFATNIGGERYOUR MOMISA WHOREILOLDLOLLOLLOLSUPERNETS ISDDOSPROOF NICEITRYFAGGOTSLOL LOLLOLLOLLOLSLOLLOL LOLLOLKEKKEK KEK 02:47:48 <KennyleinAZ01AS> STUPIDOFATNIGGERSLOL LOLLOLLOLLOL LOLLOLLOLLOL LOLLOLLOL LOLLOLILOLLLOLLOL NONIGGERSINVITED TOTHEPARTYLOLOL LOLOLLOLOLLOLOL LOLTHISNETWORKHAS FURRYFAGSIN ITKEKKEKKEK KEKKEKKEKKEK 02:47:48 <KennyleinAZ01AS> STUPIDOFATNIGGERSLOL LOLLOLLOLLOL LOLLOLLOLLOL LOLLOLLOL LOLLOLILOLLLOLLOL NONIGGERSINVITED TOTHEPARTYLOLOL LOLOLLOLOLLOLOL LOLTHISNETWORKHAS FURRYFAGSIN ITKEKKEKKEK KEKKEKKEKKEK 02:47:56 <KennyleinAZ01AS> YOUCAN'TEVENDDOS LOLLOLLOLLOL FUCK ON THIS 02:47:56 <KennyleinAZ01AS> YOUCAN'TEVENDDOS LOLLOLLOLLOL FUCK ON THIS 02:48:04 <KennyleinAZ01AS> █▀▀▀▀▀█ █ ▄▄██▀▄ █▀▀▀▀▀█ ███████╗██╗ ██╗██████╗ ███████╗██████╗ ███╗ ██╗███████╗████████╗███████╗ 02:48:04 <KennyleinAZ01AS> █▀▀▀▀▀█ █ ▄▄██▀▄ █▀▀▀▀▀█ ███████╗██╗ ██╗██████╗ ███████╗██████╗ ███╗ ██╗███████╗████████╗███████╗ 02:48:12 <KennyleinAZ01AS> █ ███ █ ██▄ ▀▄ ▄▄ █ ███ █ ██╔════╝██║ ██║██╔══██╗██╔════╝██╔══██╗████╗ ██║██╔════╝╚══██╔══╝██╔════╝ 02:48:12 <KennyleinAZ01AS> █ ███ █ ██▄ ▀▄ ▄▄ █ ███ █ ██╔════╝██║ ██║██╔══██╗██╔════╝██╔══██╗████╗ ██║██╔════╝╚══██╔══╝██╔════╝ 02:48:20 <KennyleinAZ01AS> █ ▀▀▀ █ ▄██ █▀█▀▀ █ ▀▀▀ █ ███████╗██║ ██║██████╔╝█████╗ ██████╔╝██╔██╗ ██║█████╗ ██║ ███████╗ 02:48:20 <KennyleinAZ01AS> █ ▀▀▀ █ ▄██ █▀█▀▀ █ ▀▀▀ █ ███████╗██║ ██║██████╔╝█████╗ ██████╔╝██╔██╗ ██║█████╗ ██║ ███████╗ 02:48:28 <KennyleinAZ01AS> ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▀ █▄█ █ █ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ╚════██║██║ ██║██╔═══╝ ██╔══╝ ██╔══██╗██║╚██╗██║██╔══╝ ██║ ╚════██║ 02:48:28 <KennyleinAZ01AS> ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▀ █▄█ █ █ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ╚════██║██║ ██║██╔═══╝ ██╔══╝ ██╔══██╗██║╚██╗██║██╔══╝ ██║ ╚════██║ 02:48:36 <KennyleinAZ01AS> █▀▄▄▀█▀ ▄ ▀█▀▄ ▄█ ▀▄▀▀▀▀ ███████║╚██████╔╝██║ ███████╗██║ ██║██║ ╚████║███████╗ ██║ ███████║ 02:48:36 <KennyleinAZ01AS> █▀▄▄▀█▀ ▄ ▀█▀▄ ▄█ ▀▄▀▀▀▀ ███████║╚██████╔╝██║ ███████╗██║ ██║██║ ╚████║███████╗ ██║ ███████║ 02:48:44 <KennyleinAZ01AS> ▀▀▀▀ ▄▀▄██▀▀█▀▄▀ ▄█ ▀▄▄▄▄ ╚══════╝ ╚═════╝ ╚═╝ ╚══════╝╚═╝ ╚═╝╚═╝ ╚═══╝╚══════╝ ╚═╝ ╚══════╝ 02:48:44 <KennyleinAZ01AS> ▀▀▀▀ ▄▀▄██▀▀█▀▄▀ ▄█ ▀▄▄▄▄ ╚══════╝ ╚═════╝ ╚═╝ ╚══════╝╚═╝ ╚═╝╚═╝ ╚═══╝╚══════╝ ╚═╝ ╚══════╝ 02:48:52 <KennyleinAZ01AS> WHY ARE NIGGERS SO DUMB NIGGAS BE DUMB HI OPALOPAL KITTEN 02:48:52 <KennyleinAZ01AS> WHY ARE NIGGERS SO DUMB NIGGAS BE DUMB HI OPALOPAL KITTEN 02:49:00 <KennyleinAZ01AS> muffindrake 02:49:00 <KennyleinAZ01AS> muffindrake 02:49:08 <KennyleinAZ01AS> Flygon 02:49:08 <KennyleinAZ01AS> Flygon 02:49:16 <KennyleinAZ01AS> Mazur 02:49:16 <KennyleinAZ01AS> Mazur 02:49:24 *** KennyleinAZ01AS has quit IRC 02:53:42 <Flygon> jesus fucking christ 02:54:02 <Flygon> I want them to piss off the fucking Mafia or something. Maybe they'll shut up after that. 02:59:06 *** DorpsGek sets mode: +b *!*@93.126.231.134 03:03:14 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 03:04:04 *** glx has quit IRC 03:23:02 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 05:02:15 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 05:02:15 *** KouDy has quit IRC 05:57:55 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 05:58:54 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 06:05:51 *** KouDy has quit IRC 06:20:14 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 06:22:45 <andythenorth> o/ 06:25:23 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 07:22:09 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 07:24:03 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 07:28:03 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 07:28:34 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 07:29:46 *** beno__ has quit IRC 07:36:08 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 07:47:46 *** Guest2883 has quit IRC 07:53:03 *** planet has joined #openttd 08:13:33 *** KouDy has quit IRC 08:24:12 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 08:47:35 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 09:11:23 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 09:13:48 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 09:26:05 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 09:56:13 *** berndj has quit IRC 09:57:50 *** berndj has joined #openttd 10:18:07 * Sacro grumbles about having to accept the GPL to install OpenTTD 10:21:05 <Eddi|zuHause> by "accept" you mean "press a button that has no legal binding anyway"? 10:45:44 <Flygon> But do you have at least 16 megabytes of RAM for Heralds? 10:46:10 <Eddi|zuHause> those never worked for me 10:46:35 <Flygon> You need the .avi folders inside your CIV2 install folder. 10:46:45 <Flygon> Or the CD-ROM in the tray. 10:47:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i kept those 10:47:30 <Flygon> I can .zip up the two folders necessary, if you want. 10:47:41 <Flygon> (Glad you get the reference. :D) 10:47:43 <Eddi|zuHause> also, last time i tried in wine, it didn't run properly anyway 10:47:50 <Flygon> Whelp. 10:48:51 <Eddi|zuHause> also, i don't have 16GB of ram :p 10:49:21 <Flygon> A-hahaha, as a kid, I never thought 16GB of RAM would be casual. 10:49:27 <Flygon> Now it's almost low-end... 10:49:36 <LordAro> Civ2 best game 10:50:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i should still have an old laptop where the only games i had on were Civ2, SC2000 and Transport Tycoon 10:51:06 <Flygon> I do wish it supported some niceties that FreeCiv does supply nowadays. 10:51:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i never could enjoy freeciv 10:52:01 <LordAro> it's been a long time since i tried freeciv, but i always felt it was missing something 10:52:06 <Flygon> I just want CivII. 10:52:09 <Flygon> But better. @_@ 10:52:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Civ II HD remake? :p 10:53:04 <Flygon> Apparently the source code is lost. :( 10:53:33 <Flygon> And disassembling is... finnicky. 10:53:34 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure if that would be much help anyway 10:53:52 <Eddi|zuHause> just get a modern engine, and reconstruct the game rules? 10:54:17 <LordAro> Flygon: well it seems to have worked quite well for OTTD & ORCT2 :p 10:54:33 <Flygon> Gotta capture those weird edge quirks, that made CivII CivII. 10:54:37 <Flygon> Well... yes, true. :D 10:55:37 <Eddi|zuHause> any quirks you have in mind? 10:56:21 <Flygon> Not immediately. 10:56:40 <Flygon> I suspect it's one of those things you don't notice all the little weirdnesses until they're missing. 10:57:31 <Flygon> But yes I want HD Elvis. 10:57:35 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, at least since i got into civ4, i haven't been able to enjoy the civ2 rules anyway 10:57:59 <Flygon> I want CivII... with SMACX rules. 10:58:03 <Flygon> If that makes sense. 10:58:19 <Eddi|zuHause> not really :p 10:58:47 <Flygon> Actual national borders. 10:58:54 <Flygon> Better Government system. 10:59:18 <Flygon> Upgrading for Cash, not Leonardos. 10:59:47 <Eddi|zuHause> all those things are in Civ4 11:00:06 <Flygon> true dat. 11:00:18 <Flygon> Hehehe. 11:00:30 <Flygon> I miss the GetInfo.exe things. 11:00:35 <Flygon> That showed a photo whenever you got a tech. 11:01:21 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure what you mean 11:01:26 <Flygon> In CivII Classic. 11:02:06 <Flygon> When you got a tech researched, it showed a really cool thing showing some stuff about the technology you got. 11:02:09 <Flygon> MGE lacks that stuff. 11:02:21 <Flygon> No photo and such on MGE. 11:03:21 <Flygon> Researching Steam Engine showed a photo of a Steam Locomotive. 11:05:08 <Flygon> And Warrior Code a... Warrior. 11:05:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly sure they could have made that in civ4 11:05:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, you could have pictures for events and stuff 11:05:53 <Flygon> Yeah, that's what CivII Classic did. 11:06:16 <Flygon> The Gold version lacked it because GetInfo.exe was troublesome for modding. 11:06:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i had any of those 11:07:37 <Flygon> Yeah, a lot of people on 64-bit systems also lack it. 11:07:43 <Flygon> Classic was a 16-bit .exe 11:09:12 *** Pikka has joined #openttd 11:18:08 *** synchris has joined #openttd 11:20:15 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:56:44 <peter1138> Yeah, Civ2 was the best one. 11:57:00 <peter1138> Civ4win was nice too :) 12:23:07 *** Ikaheishi has quit IRC 12:31:06 *** Arveen2 has joined #openttd 12:34:40 *** muffindrake has quit IRC 12:35:03 *** Arveen has quit IRC 12:36:51 *** muffindrake has joined #openttd 12:39:25 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 12:44:25 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 13:16:48 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 13:18:47 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 13:52:24 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 14:01:45 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:12:25 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 14:12:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 14:51:26 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:01:53 *** muffindrake has quit IRC 15:02:56 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 15:05:49 *** muffindrake has joined #openttd 15:05:53 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 15:07:43 *** Fuco has joined #openttd 15:14:59 *** berndj has quit IRC 15:15:04 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 15:17:00 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 15:17:16 *** berndj has joined #openttd 15:19:33 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:26:24 *** supermop has joined #openttd 15:28:21 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 15:31:21 <supermop> yo 15:33:13 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 15:35:36 <Alberth> oi 15:38:44 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 15:39:29 <peter1138> oi oi 15:41:44 <Pikka> o/ 15:47:17 <supermop> hows it going 15:47:51 <RedJimi> stumped with the Klingon translation of ottd 15:48:21 <RedJimi> you? 15:58:02 <supermop> nothing much 16:06:24 *** srhnsn has joined #openttd 16:13:56 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:15:53 <Alberth> o/ 16:18:47 <frosch123> moo 16:19:34 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:19:37 <andythenorth> o/ 16:19:57 <supermop> hi andy 16:20:32 <andythenorth> lo supermop :) 16:21:10 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:22:35 <supermop> how are the horses? 16:24:28 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 16:25:50 <andythenorth> supermop: horses are good 16:25:56 <andythenorth> 46% sprites done 16:27:39 <andythenorth> I am waiting for peter1138 to patch buy menu groups :P 16:27:57 <andythenorth> then I can put all the 'short', 'medium', 'long' etc wagons in one entry :P 16:28:47 <peter1138> I need a new keyboard :S 16:32:02 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:33:46 <Thedarkb> Argh, YAPF fucked up on me again. 16:36:08 <peter1138> No it didn't 16:36:55 <Thedarkb> Allow me to rephrase that 16:37:19 <Thedarkb> YAPF sent my train on a long and circuitous route and I needed to make a waypoint for it it take the shorter route. 16:37:45 <peter1138> That means something is wrong on your layout somewhere. 16:37:50 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:38:18 <peter1138> Probably ended up going to a depot that you hadn't planned for. 16:38:48 *** supermop has quit IRC 16:39:23 <Thedarkb> Servicing is off. 16:39:27 <Thedarkb> Breakdowns are off. 16:41:47 <Alberth> or the intended route cannot be used due to missing rail piece or wrong track-type or so 16:41:49 <andythenorth> YAPF is never wrong 16:41:52 <andythenorth> except for RVs 16:42:50 <Thedarkb> It's going fine now. 16:42:59 <Thedarkb> With the waypoint in place. 16:43:03 *** KouDy has quit IRC 16:44:32 <andythenorth> nice fix for 5998 16:44:42 <andythenorth> have we got a git issue bot btw? 16:44:49 <Thedarkb> https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HnigEu1.png 16:44:54 <Thedarkb> This is my junction. 16:45:01 <Thedarkb> It went straight on instead of left. 16:45:08 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 16:45:47 <Thedarkb> It just did it again on the other end of that line. 16:48:35 <peter1138> You have to consider the complete network, not just the junction. 16:49:22 <peter1138> Pathfinding chooses the shortest complete path. It doesn't just look at the junction. 16:49:51 <andythenorth> signal penalties and stuff 16:50:09 <peter1138> If it's an electric train you may be missing a piece of electrified track. 16:50:43 <_dp_> this junction is disgusting, I would totally go straight there too :P 16:51:24 <Thedarkb> How would you do it? 16:51:48 <peter1138> Flat path signals. 16:52:13 <Thedarkb> Really? 16:52:16 <peter1138> Yeah. 16:52:43 <Thedarkb> I have one junction so mangled and disgusting, I had to use pre signals to get it to work properly. 16:52:54 <peter1138> And at the crossings at the bottom left, I'd remove the signals that are in the wrong places. 16:53:09 <peter1138> The key to correct path signalling is safe-waiting-points. 16:53:51 <Thedarkb> Define wrong places. 16:54:12 <peter1138> The 4 non-path-signals after the crossings are wrongb. 16:54:13 <peter1138> -b 16:55:16 <peter1138> Those positions are not safe-waiting-points, because if a train is waiting there, it is blocking the junction. 16:55:38 <peter1138> Often with path signals, less is more. 16:55:58 <andythenorth> auto-signalling :P 16:56:06 <andythenorth> ha ha 16:56:08 <_dp_> doesn't rly matter for pathfinder tho 16:56:22 <andythenorth> auto-signalling with the heuristic modifiable in newgrf :P 16:56:27 * andythenorth is terrible 16:56:47 <_dp_> afaict there is nothing on this screenshot that would explain patfinder acting up 16:57:15 <peter1138> A savegame would show it. 16:57:19 <andythenorth> hmm 16:57:19 <Thedarkb> I stuck a waypoint there and it's fine now. 16:57:24 * andythenorth should make a list of new ponies 16:57:28 <andythenorth> there are so many 16:59:25 <Thedarkb> Wanna see something horrifying? 16:59:29 <peter1138> Your savegame? :p 16:59:44 <Thedarkb> https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HninWiZ.png 16:59:56 <Thedarkb> This is the end of that line heading north. 17:01:28 <andythenorth> I should build more big train lines 17:01:31 <andythenorth> mine never look like that 17:01:38 <andythenorth> also I should fix that hotel sprite 17:01:42 <andythenorth> it's abominable 17:01:51 <Thedarkb> I like it. 17:02:08 <Thedarkb> I had a lot more traffic on that line. 17:02:08 <andythenorth> looks like it's traced from a photo, which it isn't 17:02:19 <Thedarkb> Which is why it's massive. 17:02:25 <_dp_> andythenorth, judging by screenshots he builds lines, not trains :D 17:02:28 <Thedarkb> That, and for futureproofing. 17:02:42 <Thedarkb> I only have 132 trains at the moment. 17:02:59 <andythenorth> who allowed supermop to leave? :P 17:03:05 <andythenorth> I have train sprites to discuss 17:03:36 <Thedarkb> I'm playing on a private server for a small retro gaming community. 17:03:47 <Thedarkb> If you think my lines are horrifying..... 17:04:29 <Thedarkb> https://drive.google.com/open?id=11fqlE3P86KoiP_8sr0YKhTkHvnG0S-1P 17:04:36 <Thedarkb> Here's the .sav for you 17:04:44 <peter1138> Black Mesa, heh 17:04:50 <_dp_> I regret not saving solo's srnw cb experiment 17:05:00 <peter1138> So you start with an incredibly slow annoying monorail that you can't skip :p 17:05:11 <_dp_> that looked more like a birdnest than a train network :D 17:05:15 <Thedarkb> I was in fucking awe the first time I saw that sequence. 17:05:41 <Thedarkb> Besides, after the first run you can skip it. 17:05:55 <peter1138> Sure. It was amazing in 1998. 17:06:20 <Thedarkb> It obviously looks crap now, but I still appreciate it. 17:06:25 *** supermop has joined #openttd 17:07:10 <Thedarkb> andythenorth, supermop is ready to receive your wrath. 17:07:14 <peter1138> Right, I put WD-40 on my spacebar and it's a bit better now. 17:07:23 <Thedarkb> 3 in 1 is good for keyboards. 17:07:30 <peter1138> I know it's not quite the right stuff, but I was seriously frustrated :p 17:08:11 <andythenorth> can I fix my mac that way? 17:08:12 <peter1138> andythenorth, what uncommitable branch should I work on today? 17:08:17 *** tokai has joined #openttd 17:08:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 17:08:19 <andythenorth> peter1138: 2 secs 17:08:34 <Thedarkb> Did anyone have a look at my awful network. 17:08:42 <andythenorth> here we go peter1138 https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1207687#p1207687 17:09:11 <andythenorth> does 64 cargos break any newgrf spec stuff? 17:09:23 <andythenorth> besides renum, which is useless anyway 17:09:40 <andythenorth> supermop: railcars innit http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html#deasil 17:09:49 <andythenorth> also tube trains http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html#serpentine 17:10:04 <_dp_> peter1138, how can it not be right? http://www.taproot.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/wd40-ducttape.jpg 17:10:16 <peter1138> :D 17:10:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:10:52 <peter1138> andythenorth, refit masks are still 32 bit so you can only set the first 32 cargos as refittable. However. 17:11:11 *** Thedarkb has left #openttd 17:11:14 <andythenorth> _dp_: is there ever a case for both? 17:11:17 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 17:11:20 <Thedarkb> Finger slipped. 17:11:29 <andythenorth> peter1138: non-refittable cargos are totally useful 17:11:35 <andythenorth> not sure what for but eh :P 17:11:37 <peter1138> andythenorth, however, if a set uses the refit include list, it's already a list of cargo types, so can exceed that limit. 17:11:50 <Thedarkb> If you want to join for a look, the server is called Kelium95 and the password is weed 17:12:07 <peter1138> andythenorth, or, indeed, cargo classes will still work fine. 17:12:40 <peter1138> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action0/Vehicles/Trains#List_of_always_refittable_cargo_types_.282C.2C_2D.29 17:12:57 <peter1138> ^ 2C/2D for trains, that does not use the bit mask directly so will work fine with more than 32. 17:13:23 <andythenorth> ok 17:13:49 <andythenorth> so 1D is game overed for > 32? 17:14:00 <andythenorth> I can't remember which one nml uses 17:14:08 <andythenorth> but not using 2C/2D would be bonkers 17:15:08 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 17:15:12 <peter1138> 1D is limited to 32. Bear in mind that's the first 32 cargo types in the set's cargo translation table. 17:15:35 * andythenorth reads nml src 17:15:57 <peter1138> So if there are 64 cargo types and the translation table references the top 32 bits (somehow) it will still work. 17:16:23 <andythenorth> " # 1D (refittable cargo types) is removed, it is zeroed when setting a different refit property 17:16:23 <andythenorth> " 17:16:26 <andythenorth> nml 17:16:43 <peter1138> I would say cargo classes is the preferred way, then explicit list. 17:16:44 <peter1138> Hmm 17:16:48 <andythenorth> " 'cargo_allow_refit' : [{'custom_function': lambda value: ctt_list(0x2C, value)}, zero_refit_mask(0x1D)]," 17:16:57 <peter1138> Heh. 17:17:06 <Thedarkb> lambda value? 17:17:14 <Thedarkb> Half-Life 3 confirmed? 17:22:33 <supermop> looking good andythenorth 17:26:33 *** berndj has quit IRC 17:28:08 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 17:29:42 *** berndj has joined #openttd 17:34:42 <peter1138> andythenorth, shot myself in the foot by making 2 versions ;( 17:41:22 <andythenorth> peter1138: such branch :P 17:41:44 <peter1138> peter1138's patch pack? 17:42:12 <andythenorth> probably 17:42:23 <andythenorth> I think you'd get a lot of users 17:42:31 <andythenorth> you could make a support bot for them 17:45:44 <peter1138> Nah, people would want their savegames to be upgradable. 17:50:14 <nielsm> peter1138 this chunk looks wrong: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6803/commits/8e5bf372c2b34bc5586e625a1fa25a92cfec7c80#diff-5118ae4803da644dc63903142cc3f8b2 17:50:26 <nielsm> change from constant to magic number? 17:51:14 <andythenorth> isn't that just specifying versions? 17:51:20 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:52:19 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:52:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:52:46 <nielsm> even if it's correct I think a comment to why that is would be appropriate 17:55:16 <peter1138> Actually I'm not sure it is correct. 17:55:38 <peter1138> It's only executed for pre-version 44 savegames, which is quite old. 17:57:47 <peter1138> Pre-version 55 there were only 12 cargo types anyway. 17:58:02 <peter1138> So I guess leaving it at NUM_CARGO would be fine. 17:58:12 <peter1138> Will just be operating on empty data. 18:13:03 *** Fuco has quit IRC 18:19:40 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:19:52 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 18:20:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 18:22:28 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 18:33:01 *** srhnsn has quit IRC 18:34:06 *** Pikka has quit IRC 19:01:29 *** Fuco has joined #openttd 19:04:27 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 19:04:44 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 19:05:37 <peter1138> Hmm, my bitset stuff breaks on OS X anyway :p 19:07:44 <LordAro> bit weird 19:15:08 *** Alberth has left #openttd 19:16:05 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 19:16:16 <Wolf01> o/ 19:30:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:32:50 <V453000> ho 19:32:56 <V453000> rse? 19:36:05 <andythenorth> 46% 19:36:47 <V453000> I just made a simple python for putting together NML files :D now it needs to automatically compile the final file 19:36:51 <V453000> windoze ftw 19:36:53 <V453000> gg 19:38:18 <andythenorth> winner winner 19:38:20 <andythenorth> chicken dinner 19:38:25 <peter1138> LordAro, dunno, I guess it's something different in the OS X SDK? 19:38:33 <andythenorth> you can't use Make V453000? o_O 19:38:53 <LordAro> peter1138: my bet is on something c++11 related 19:40:35 <V453000> n andythenorth 19:40:49 <V453000> and honestly I'd rather make a py script to do this simple action instead of learning make atm 19:40:50 <andythenorth> subprocess.Popen should do it 19:40:58 <andythenorth> but you end up learning shell either way 19:41:16 <V453000> yes I think Popen works 19:41:46 <andythenorth> https://python-forum.io/Thread-launch-exe-from-python-script-in-windows?pid=12804 19:41:49 <V453000> arr 19:41:55 <V453000> I'm pretty sure I already used it somewhere, too 19:41:57 <andythenorth> not exactly a tutorial :P ^^^ 19:42:03 <andythenorth> other people failing to win it 19:42:09 <andythenorth> I just googled though 19:42:17 <V453000> yeah me too https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5469301/run-a-bat-file-using-python-code 19:42:29 <andythenorth> usually the problem with subprocess is getting the parameters shell formatted 19:42:43 <andythenorth> there's a shlex(?) module that can help with that if it's a PITA 19:42:56 <andythenorth> https://docs.python.org/2/library/shlex.html 19:43:09 <andythenorth> but you might not need it 19:44:11 <V453000> well I don't have parameters for my compile 19:44:19 <V453000> I'll just literally run the bat command that I normally run 19:44:34 <_dp_> os.system is probably the easiest to use 19:44:43 <_dp_> not sure if it works on windows tho 19:48:18 <andythenorth> what's the .bat do? 19:48:37 <V453000> just run nmlc :D 19:48:45 <V453000> I know, I could run the nmlc from python directly 19:48:56 <V453000> but this way the compile settings stay in 1 place in the bat command 19:49:03 <V453000> so I can run the bat without running the whole thing 19:49:15 <V453000> it seems to actually work now :? 19:49:17 <V453000> :> 19:49:22 <V453000> gg iWin 19:49:40 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 19:51:40 <andythenorth> WR: 51.27% 19:51:53 <andythenorth> oh we're not playing Blitz? o_O 19:53:22 <V453000> that's kind of mediocre isn't it? :P 19:53:29 <andythenorth> I'm not very good 19:53:32 <V453000> 99% or auschwitz 19:53:36 <andythenorth> nobody has 99% 19:53:44 <V453000> all to auschwitz \o/ 19:53:50 * andythenorth apologises to world for V453000 :| 19:53:52 <V453000> :D 19:57:04 <andythenorth> hmm 19:57:29 <andythenorth> my WR is almost same as damage caused vs. damage received 19:57:45 <andythenorth> so basically, in enough games, skill of other players is irrelevant 19:57:52 <andythenorth> if I get shot less, I'll win more 19:58:01 * andythenorth lost in stats, nobody else will care :) 20:01:11 <V453000> hmmm, it's doing weird shit 20:01:30 <V453000> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pslgxtt2n 20:01:55 <V453000> for some reason I need to press enter to proceed after the combining, and I don't see the console output from the script, it gets overridden by the shell thing? 20:02:46 <V453000> OH 20:02:54 <V453000> the bat command clears the console :D 20:02:55 <V453000> XD 20:03:13 <andythenorth> lol 20:03:16 <andythenorth> GG 20:03:28 <andythenorth> hey let's pretend we're playing Blitz 20:03:32 <andythenorth> "delete game" V453000 20:03:46 <V453000> I must say I didn't remember the subprocess to clean the console :D 20:03:49 <V453000> U WOT M8 20:03:55 <V453000> GRIEF REPORT 20:04:15 <V453000> Let me go historically accurate on your vehicle. 20:04:21 <V453000> Sir. 20:04:34 <andythenorth> you are kid playing on daddy's account 20:04:40 <andythenorth> go back to Barbie 20:04:55 <V453000> :D 20:05:10 <V453000> I hate modern multiplayer games :D 20:05:10 <andythenorth> Blitz comments ;p 20:05:15 <andythenorth> they're so dumb 20:05:26 <V453000> yeah I had my fair share of this nonsense back in Heroes of Newerth 20:05:36 <andythenorth> I had one telling me to "catch cancer", which for personal personal reasons, was massively inappropriate 20:05:49 <V453000> less daddy account because money don't do anything in that game, but much more cancer and just genuine assholism 20:06:03 <V453000> ye 20:06:07 <V453000> "internet" 20:06:09 <andythenorth> it's just feral kids 20:06:15 <V453000> "pinnacle of society" 20:06:20 <V453000> "the technological revolution" 20:06:20 <andythenorth> I think internet is over 20:06:23 <andythenorth> but eh 20:06:27 <andythenorth> trains 20:06:40 <V453000> well now internet is considered to be the basic standard like phone signal :) 20:06:44 <V453000> trains it is. 20:06:56 <V453000> got a python to tame 20:07:54 <V453000> it's still doing really hideous shit 20:08:40 <V453000> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pan2nw0dh 20:08:42 <V453000> see line 6-8 20:08:52 <V453000> I needed to press Enter 3 times in order to actually start the command :D 20:09:01 <andythenorth> dunno 20:09:09 <andythenorth> is that a Windows feature 20:09:16 <V453000> CouldBeNew 20:09:55 <andythenorth> it's a known thing I think 20:09:58 * andythenorth using google skills 20:10:02 <andythenorth> better than yours 20:10:08 <V453000> :D 20:10:14 <andythenorth> oh what? 20:10:21 <andythenorth> I have to sign in to google to search? :O 20:10:23 <andythenorth> since when? 20:12:05 <V453000> :D 20:12:09 <andythenorth> lame 20:12:10 <V453000> totally not interested in your date :P 20:12:17 <andythenorth> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18765429/how-can-i-surpass-press-any-key-to-continue-in-python 20:12:34 <V453000> no I don't need to log in to search 20:12:56 <andythenorth> I do for some results 20:13:10 <andythenorth> I click the result, and Google wants my password 20:13:15 <andythenorth> and it's not a phishing site 20:13:24 <andythenorth> anyway nvm try that link above 20:13:25 <V453000> nice 20:13:55 <V453000> yeah I see it, the issue isn't a pause after the NML, but a pause before the NML would run. I'll try to solve it myself and then also do some search, or ask fuckers at work :P easiest solution usually 20:14:02 <V453000> thank you though <3 20:15:11 <andythenorth> seems windows-ish 20:15:27 <andythenorth> my future :( 20:15:57 <V453000> :D 20:16:11 <V453000> I'll instead go and see if I can make a custom syntax highlighting for NML 20:16:12 <V453000> just cause yes 20:16:26 <V453000> I'm guessing not easily though 20:16:30 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:16:32 <andythenorth> planetmaker made one 20:16:40 <V453000> for npp+ afaik 20:16:46 <V453000> I'm using VS code like the cool kids now 20:17:13 <V453000> I could reconsider that rather quickly though 20:17:20 <V453000> the find and replace in VS code is atrocious 20:17:33 <V453000> and npp has a chameleon 20:21:37 <V453000> oh yeah I found the fact that VS code can do 3 columns where npp can do just 2 20:21:46 <V453000> handy for full retard wide screen monitor 20:22:05 <V453000> but with the imported files, they get generally shorter so that's less of an issue 20:22:53 <andythenorth> yair, but does it have vertical column guides? o_O 20:23:21 *** Gja has quit IRC 20:24:18 <V453000> I guess 20:24:24 <V453000> google says it does, I haven't used it 20:24:34 <andythenorth> can't imagine python without them 20:24:37 <V453000> sounds handy 20:24:38 <V453000> yeah 20:24:41 <andythenorth> other people don't seem to care, but eh 20:24:58 <V453000> I understand that entirely, when you get many indents and shit, it gets weird quickly 20:25:40 <Wolf01> I think I must to bed 20:25:45 <Wolf01> 'night 20:25:52 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 20:27:48 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 20:28:41 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 20:32:18 <andythenorth> peter1138: newgrf trees next? o_O 20:32:36 <V453000> omg yes please 20:33:07 <andythenorth> also reduces savegame size 20:33:14 <andythenorth> allegedly 20:33:56 * andythenorth plans how to use 64 industry cargos also 20:45:10 <V453000> hmm, I kind of like how VS code highlights all the occurences of thing I double click in the scrollbar 20:45:16 <V453000> now I have to use both or what? :D 20:46:33 <andythenorth> dunno 20:46:40 <andythenorth> anything like that I turn off or ignore 20:47:17 <V453000> iz like though 20:49:06 <andythenorth> why 8 graphical options for every mail car eh? o_O 20:49:09 <andythenorth> why did i do that? 20:49:35 <V453000> answer is yes 20:49:59 <andythenorth> player me likes it 20:50:04 <andythenorth> sprite drawing me hates it 20:50:09 <andythenorth> fight club 20:51:43 <V453000> :D 20:52:02 <V453000> is similar to my decision of making ships have 9 loading stages 20:52:18 <andythenorth> obviously regrettable 20:52:57 <V453000> it's something that absolutely makes me NOT want to update them for FIRS3 cargoes :D 20:52:59 <V453000> at the moment at least 20:53:09 <V453000> especially knowing that FIRS4 is behind the corner 20:53:19 <V453000> probably teaming up with FIRS5 there 20:56:49 <andythenorth> FIRS9000 20:56:52 <andythenorth> ultimate 20:57:08 <andythenorth> you should just generate cargos :P 21:05:06 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:05:41 <andythenorth> bed 21:05:41 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:07:08 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:14:14 *** synchris has quit IRC 21:19:04 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:28:31 *** KouDy has quit IRC 21:30:06 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 21:33:29 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:51:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:52:35 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 22:06:58 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 22:18:14 <Thedarkb-X40> Are roundabout junctions actually practical? 22:19:48 <ST2> for F... sure! for OpenTTD... eh! 22:33:43 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 22:35:56 <Eddi|zuHause> unlikely 22:44:32 <Thedarkb-X40> I saw someone in the subreddit recommend one to someone. 22:48:59 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean someone was WRONG. on the INTERNET?!? 22:57:10 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:34:36 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 23:34:52 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 23:36:13 *** Fuco has quit IRC