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I think I'll have to buy it at full price 07:51:13 *** Gja has joined #openttd 08:00:56 <Wolf01> https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-reportedly-held-talks-about-acquiring-github 08:03:16 <Eddi|zuHause> why wouldn't they? 08:03:33 <Eddi|zuHause> as a proper evil corporation i would hold talks about acquiring EVERYTHING 08:04:13 <Wolf01> Those are EA and Disney 08:04:40 <Wolf01> MS is less evil than Google as today 08:06:19 <Eddi|zuHause> really, all corporations are evil... as they aren't guided by morale principles they automatically get evil 08:28:55 <Wolf01> Uhm, FFF#245 made me think about I never played the campaign 08:29:37 <Wolf01> Actually I did once, on the demo before purchasing the game 08:34:18 *** synchris has joined #openttd 08:43:07 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 08:43:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 08:44:44 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 08:54:43 <Wolf01> o/ 09:00:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 09:11:24 *** muffindrake has quit IRC 09:36:16 *** muffindrake has joined #openttd 09:38:51 <Alberth> o/ 09:51:05 *** Progman has joined #openttd 09:59:07 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 10:03:37 <LANJesus> Eddi|zuHause: eh non-profits could be worse, though they're expected to exist in the same playing field as for-profit entities and it makes shit difficult 10:16:02 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 10:16:44 *** Progman_ has joined #openttd 10:18:31 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 10:21:17 *** Progman has quit IRC 10:21:30 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 10:37:01 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, problem with trying to solve all spider games is sometimes it just sits there for a few days until you see the solution 10:50:46 <Alberth> oh, I always thought there are too many to bother :) 10:57:36 *** Compu has quit IRC 10:57:44 *** Compu has joined #openttd 11:31:28 *** Gja has quit IRC 11:38:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i guess my brain works different to yours :p 11:54:16 *** APTX| has joined #openttd 11:55:17 *** APTX has quit IRC 12:02:20 *** Gja has joined #openttd 12:03:10 <peter1138> And... I'm back. 12:03:40 <peter1138> Hmm, 29.5 km/h average o_O 12:18:19 *** Gja has quit IRC 12:22:24 <nielsm> hmm shouldn't the error() function have a "does not return" annotation? 12:23:31 <nielsm> so the compiler won't complain about uninitialized variables that can only be left uninitialized by code paths going through error() 12:33:13 <frosch123> it does have one 12:33:29 <nielsm> I don't see it 12:33:33 <frosch123> void NORETURN CDECL error(const char *str, ...) WARN_FORMAT(1, 2); 12:33:38 <frosch123> the "NORETURN" part 12:34:34 <LordAro> peter1138: nice 12:35:01 <nielsm> apparently that one doesn't get caught by the compiler I tested a linux build with right now 12:36:03 <nielsm> g++ 5.4 12:37:39 <LordAro> nothing with newer compilers 12:39:40 <nielsm> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6775/files#diff-561c04b6a6573b21f9bc97ec58c2e83dR825 12:39:56 <nielsm> that particular case causes a warning here :s 12:40:04 <nielsm> it's easy to just init the variable of course 12:40:46 *** gelignite has quit IRC 12:42:44 <LordAro> nielsm: you could rewrite the function to not use the result variable 12:43:24 <nielsm> lots of options :) 12:46:06 <frosch123> nielsm: you misread the warning 12:46:20 <frosch123> the issue is with song.filetype == MTT_MPSMIDI && songdata == NULL 12:47:04 <frosch123> it's right next to the { with the wrong \n :p 12:47:18 <frosch123> bugs are always near to code style issues :p 12:47:22 <LordAro> haha 12:47:51 <LordAro> i feel like it might be better as a switch anyway 12:48:01 <nielsm> BAH 12:52:02 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 12:57:45 <nielsm> there, that's a fix 13:01:21 *** Pikka has joined #openttd 13:06:32 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 13:08:36 <nielsm> anything else that need fixing before dosmusic can be merged? 13:52:04 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 14:12:02 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 14:43:46 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:52:44 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 14:53:58 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 15:00:57 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 15:09:35 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:10:08 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 15:10:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 15:11:12 <andythenorth> o/ 15:12:51 <peter1138> hi 15:12:57 <Pikka> o/ 15:13:36 *** Gja has quit IRC 15:14:24 <snail_UES_> o/ 15:16:18 <andythenorth> wow a snail, a bird, and a peter :o 15:17:07 *** tokai has quit IRC 15:20:43 <andythenorth> any wolves? 15:45:58 <Flygon> Real men go Peco PEco 15:46:01 <Flygon> G'night. 15:46:02 <Flygon> :3 15:46:15 <Alberth> we had a wolf about 7 hours ago 15:46:24 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:46:46 <Alberth> still here even 15:46:52 <Alberth> just not awake :) 15:48:31 <andythenorth> Wolf01: o/ 15:49:37 <Wolf01> o/ 15:50:05 <Wolf01> Watching a slow movie and on the edge of sleeping 15:51:57 <Wolf01> So, why should I buy the bugatti? 16:02:43 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 16:06:15 <andythenorth> you shouldn't 16:06:40 <andythenorth> it's what, EUR 350? 16:06:45 <Wolf01> 400 16:06:51 <Wolf01> 360 in DE 16:07:02 <Wolf01> Dunno why this difference 16:08:35 <Wolf01> If I can buy it for 300 then I might do it, not for more 16:11:22 <andythenorth> it's not for me 16:11:30 <andythenorth> I need to sell Lego before buying much more 16:13:10 *** gelignite has quit IRC 16:21:27 * andythenorth playing spider solitaire still 16:24:55 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 16:39:16 <Pikka> bew 16:39:17 *** Pikka has quit IRC 16:56:16 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:59:36 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 17:12:08 <andythenorth> well 17:12:11 <andythenorth> is it patches? 17:12:26 <andythenorth> Wolf01: what shall we do with NRT? 17:12:30 <andythenorth> fork Peter's repo? 17:12:40 <andythenorth> or PR that branch to openttd? 17:12:50 <andythenorth> and is it 64 types or not (64 is untested afaik) 17:13:10 <peter1138> Did I push that branch? 17:13:39 <peter1138> Oh I did. 17:15:49 <Wolf01> Mmmh, I don't think I want 64 types 17:17:18 <andythenorth> well let's PR 16 and see what happens 17:17:31 <Wolf01> If we could add those virtual types maybe it could be really a nice addition, they could be loaded in a separate array, not buildable and not count towards the buildable types 17:17:50 <peter1138> Players want more types :p 17:18:10 <peter1138> Virtual types is not an easy issue. 17:19:10 <Wolf01> What about infinite map array storage? Everything which is a variant of the same thing gets its own _mN bitmap 17:19:49 <Wolf01> But then don't whine about "I'm not able to join a 25GB map server" 17:20:39 <Wolf01> 64k roadtypes, 64k railtypes, 64k whatever 17:22:47 <Wolf01> Regarding NRT, I don't know what's better, I would like to continue my work on the town roadtype thing 17:26:42 <nielsm> ever considered having sparse map data? splitting it into e.g. 32x32 blocks and only actually storing blocks having non-blank data 17:27:02 <nielsm> at least it should cut down storage size 17:29:14 <andythenorth> Wolf01: I think you re-merge peter1138's changes to your repo then 17:29:20 <andythenorth> and maybe give me commit rights to it? 17:29:24 <peter1138> Hmm, seems you have build road stops on somebody else's one-way roads./ 17:29:55 <peter1138> nielsm, all blocks have non-blank data. 17:30:30 <Wolf01> Hmm 17:30:41 <peter1138> s/have/can 17:31:38 <Wolf01> Yes, you can build roadstops everywhere if the local authority allows it 17:35:07 <nielsm> continuation of thought is then to have a "pallette" of e.g. road or rail types per block, and some automatic "up-conversion" of a block if it gets more types than the pallette can support - e.g. support 4 type, 16 type, 64 types, 64k types (non-palletted) 17:35:29 <nielsm> but maybe that's just going overboard :) 17:36:08 <nielsm> and the pallette is per block 17:37:42 <peter1138> o_O 17:37:53 <peter1138> Not impossible. 17:37:54 <peter1138> But 17:38:38 <andythenorth> 64 would be 'enough' :P 17:39:06 <andythenorth> to be more accurate, 16 is 'enough', 64 is 'more than enough' 17:40:17 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 17:53:59 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:53:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:58:33 <TrueBrain> hmmm .. I love closing tickets .... 18:00:53 <andythenorth> eh it's triolus[m] 18:01:06 <andythenorth> or even tab-complete TrueBrain 18:01:17 <andythenorth> I though 'tr' would be enough :P 18:02:45 <peter1138> Let's extend the map array and add more companies :p 18:02:45 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 18:10:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 18:12:51 <TrueBrain> peter1138: what is funny, that your 2 bytes extra is percentage-wise less of an increase than when we added the extended map array :P 18:12:55 <TrueBrain> it gets less and less painful :D 18:13:06 <peter1138> :) 18:13:22 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:13:27 <peter1138> I have 32GB RAM, no problem for me ;) 18:14:22 <TrueBrain> lets sell OpenTTD wiith additional RAM :P 18:15:04 <nielsm> extend everything <32 bit up to 32 bit, everything else up to 64 bit 18:18:06 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: we just charge for the RAM? o_O 18:31:46 <peter1138> Does NRT have provision for one-way junctions? 18:32:35 <peter1138> Hmm, so many bits needed for that :p 18:32:54 <andythenorth> not provided afaik :P 18:33:39 <peter1138> Probably better off with state machines 18:40:37 <andythenorth> always better off with things we didn't implement :) 18:55:40 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 18:59:12 *** techmagus has quit IRC 19:10:17 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 19:12:59 *** Alberth has left #openttd 19:13:45 *** Gja has joined #openttd 19:35:13 *** KouDy has quit IRC 19:53:16 <Wolf01> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl-config OMG, this is wonderful 20:16:59 <andythenorth> so how do I github? :P 20:17:22 <andythenorth> can't fork a fork https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6675994/is-it-possible-to-fork-a-fork-in-github 20:18:24 <andythenorth> so I have to merge peter's fork into mine somehow? 20:18:48 <LordAro> just set peter1138's repo as a remote 20:18:53 <nielsm> yeah 20:18:57 <nielsm> and fetch fromit 20:19:11 <nielsm> then checkout the branch from the remote 20:19:14 <andythenorth> and then merge the branch I want 20:19:16 <LordAro> `git remote add petern https://github.com/PeterN/OpenTTD` or w/e 20:19:25 <LordAro> git fetch petern 20:19:32 <LordAro> git branch -a to list all the things 20:19:42 <andythenorth> thanks LordAro 20:28:15 <peter1138> hi 20:30:52 <andythenorth> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6807 20:31:02 <andythenorth> wondering if I should expand the description 20:31:48 <Wolf01> <andythenorth> can't fork a fork <- this was one of the things I wanted to know too :P 20:32:03 <andythenorth> adding a remote worked just fine 20:39:08 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 20:40:09 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 20:40:28 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 20:48:41 <peter1138> Would it be wrong to 'fix' oilrigs so that you can't run other stations to them? 20:48:52 <peter1138> (Didn't someone already start that?) 20:51:05 <nielsm> there's the alternative problem when you run with multiple industries of same type per city, where you get so many oil rigs it can't create more automatic stations 20:51:57 <nielsm> I think my preferred solution might be to prevent raising the sea in a radius around the oil rig 21:01:00 *** agentw4b_ has joined #openttd 21:01:31 <LordAro> peter1138: i'd be tempted to say yes, tbh 21:01:51 <LordAro> raising the sea is already mostly prohibitively expensive 21:02:43 <peter1138> Yeah, no. 21:02:50 <peter1138> It's not at all. 21:04:18 <LordAro> well no, but money is fairly meaningless anyway 21:04:27 <LordAro> what do you have against people running trains to oil rigs? 21:04:38 <LordAro> i always used to like doing it when i could :) 21:06:49 *** agentw4b_ has quit IRC 21:07:21 *** Gja has quit IRC 21:07:23 *** agentw4b has quit IRC 21:08:03 <nielsm> actually I think some kind of protected ocean that can't be raised might be a useful idea for scenarios too 21:08:43 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 21:11:09 <nielsm> and then an alternate rule for oil rigs, "can only construct inside protected ocean regions" 21:11:16 <nielsm> rather than the "close to edges" rule 21:25:29 <LordAro> peter1138: holy hell, 100k @ 29.5kph? 21:26:23 *** supermop has joined #openttd 21:31:41 <peter1138> Hmm, annoying bug with ctrl-build station :( 21:32:05 <peter1138> If distant-join is not enabled, you can't chose to join station part to existing, only build a new part :( 21:43:53 <peter1138> LordAro, yeah 21:44:05 <peter1138> Also, this server has ships disabled, so... bah at oilrigs :( 21:46:05 <LordAro> peter1138: much nice. 22:09:38 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 22:10:39 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 22:11:30 <andythenorth> jenkins hates me :P https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6807#partial-pull-merging 22:12:09 <andythenorth> nvm, bed :P 22:12:11 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:19:51 <Wolf01> 'night 22:19:54 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:34:58 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:38:00 *** supermop has quit IRC 22:40:58 <peter1138> why did you merge like that? 22:41:02 <peter1138> oh he left 22:45:01 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:48:36 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:52:11 *** supermop has joined #openttd 22:58:37 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:16:49 *** synchris has quit IRC