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13:05:05 <peter1138> Gears. 13:05:15 <SpComb> copper coils 13:14:21 <andythenorth> yeti 13:14:27 <andythenorth> what is plural of yeti? 13:14:38 <V453000> yetis I guess 13:29:18 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 13:29:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 13:29:29 <Alberth> o/ 13:37:29 <planetmaker> \o 13:43:46 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:51:53 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 14:27:16 *** Arveen has quit IRC 14:28:40 *** Progman has joined #openttd 14:52:45 <nielsm> solved! https://0x0.st/sWm1.png 14:56:07 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 14:58:18 <andythenorth> nielsm: \o/ :) 15:00:04 <andythenorth> I guess nml needs patched next :) 15:00:06 <nielsm> frosch123: I think I'll make a separate PR for extended house cargo acceptance, without the callback support 15:01:41 <nielsm> andythenorth: I think my own test grf has already exercised the "basic" new properties, so it's all the callbacks that are interesting to test :D 15:02:14 <andythenorth> yeah 15:02:23 <andythenorth> frosch123 how 'done' is nml -> github? o_O 15:06:08 <frosch123> there were no complains about the author mapping 15:06:20 <frosch123> so i guess the repo is fine, i need to look into issues 15:08:37 <andythenorth> I wondered if there are so few I could manually migrate them 15:08:45 <andythenorth> but I think not :P 15:09:17 <andythenorth> I looked for some that could easily be closed 15:09:19 <andythenorth> not many 15:09:22 <andythenorth> although.... 15:09:32 <andythenorth> quite a lot are 'this is the roadmap' and just aren't that useful 15:10:02 <frosch123> if it works once it can be used for any devzone project 15:10:23 <andythenorth> yes 15:10:33 <andythenorth> I hadn't thought of that :P 15:11:35 *** Progman has quit IRC 15:25:03 <nielsm> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6872 house extended accepts :P 15:29:55 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:45:45 <nielsm> okay let's try this! https://0x0.st/sWmy.txt 15:47:50 <andythenorth> :) 15:50:26 <frosch123> https://github.com/frosch123/nml/issues/2 15:51:09 <frosch123> i think i need truebrain to whipser me the dorpsgek access token 15:51:58 <nielsm> rebase completed with just two conflicts to resolve! 15:53:36 <Kippers> Oh hey o/ 15:55:18 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 15:56:45 <andythenorth> :D 16:00:01 <frosch123> https://github.com/frosch123/nml/issues/4 <- added the redmine issue number to the title 16:00:32 <andythenorth> that will cause confusion at some point :D 16:00:39 <andythenorth> due to global vs local numberspace 16:01:34 <frosch123> it makes searching for old issues easier 16:01:42 <andythenorth> yes 16:01:44 <frosch123> should i add a "RM" or something? 16:01:52 <andythenorth> maybe :) 16:01:58 <andythenorth> coop 16:02:00 <andythenorth> devzone 16:02:01 <andythenorth> dunno 16:03:11 <frosch123> i wonder whether planetmaker gets mails, when i link those issues to him 16:04:24 *** debdog has quit IRC 16:16:46 *** rp4k has quit IRC 16:26:21 <FLHerne> Is there any documentation for the 'default' nml properties, i.e. the behaviour when no value is specified? 16:26:32 <FLHerne> (I can't find it) 16:26:47 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 16:27:29 <FLHerne> If NML just doesn't create action<n>s then it depends on OTTD behaviour, but I can't find that either 16:31:06 <nielsm> most things are based on "copy existing item and change properties" 16:31:13 <nielsm> so the defaults for everything is littered all over 16:31:24 <FLHerne> Default intro date seems to be '0', which surprised me a bit 16:31:49 <FLHerne> (I assumed it would be 1920 or something similarly weird) 16:32:00 <frosch123> vehicles have no defaults, you need to set all properties 16:32:02 <FLHerne> Blegh 16:32:29 <FLHerne> frosch123: That's clearly not true 16:32:39 <FLHerne> /* cargo_age_period is left at default */ 16:32:56 <FLHerne> (unless the official demo files are completely wrong) 16:33:20 <frosch123> it's didactically true 16:33:22 <FLHerne> Oh, that one actually has a default listed on the list'o'props 16:34:17 <FLHerne> "Coefficient of the relative air drag, in arbitrary units. The default value is approximately (8 / max_speed), with max_speed in km/h, clamped to the range 0.004 .. 0.75." 16:34:32 <FLHerne> Now /that's/ the sort of arbitrarily absurd default I was expecting 16:35:27 <nielsm> I wonder why it's the burning towers and not the tanks on the oil refinery that accept oil... 16:36:02 <FLHerne> frosch123: Sadly, it's not useful for what I want to do with it 16:37:04 *** DanMacK has joined #openttd 16:37:08 <FLHerne> If someone starts editing a property that wasn't previously set, the initial value should obviously correspond to the behaviour with no value specified 16:37:17 <DanMacK> Hey all ltns 16:38:25 <FLHerne> So apparently I need to go and read the source to figure out what those actually are... 16:39:37 *** dvim has joined #openttd 16:40:20 <nielsm> frosch123: worth a try taking +R off the channel again? 16:40:30 <frosch123> @mode -R 16:40:30 *** DorpsGek sets mode: -R 16:41:27 <DanMacK> Bot issues? 16:42:46 <FLHerne> DanMacK: The freenode-mod-spam ones seem to be spreading 16:42:59 <DanMacK> Ahhhh 16:44:47 <nielsm> frosch123: the old industry tile accepts callbacks, should they add or replace tile acceptance? what if the "accepts everything industry itself accepts" flag is set? 16:46:27 <nielsm> I think "replace", including also effectively disabling the out the "accepts all" 16:46:36 <nielsm> disabling the "accepts all" flag 16:47:04 <frosch123> i wouldn't bother with them 16:47:32 <frosch123> they can only address the first 32 items in the cargo translation table, so what does it matter 16:47:51 <nielsm> good point :D 16:50:19 <Alberth> FLHerne: just invent your own default settings 16:50:42 <FLHerne> Alberth: I should probably do that for now 16:51:09 * FLHerne has a tendency towards depth-first problem-solving... https://xkcd.com/761/ 16:52:02 <nielsm> like the reset.css files that set every single property on every single tag 17:00:52 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 17:01:47 <Alberth> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't :) 17:05:49 *** debdog has joined #openttd 17:13:07 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 17:17:03 *** arahael1617 has joined #openttd 17:18:16 *** dvim has quit IRC 17:20:58 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 17:24:18 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:26:24 *** wsm has joined #openttd 17:34:09 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 17:34:16 *** DanMacK has joined #openttd 17:40:16 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 17:40:49 *** DanMacK has joined #openttd 17:44:25 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:44:52 <Wolf01> o/ 17:45:42 <Wolf01> Did something nice happen this weekend? 17:46:18 <Wolf01> an[tab][tab][tab]... where is the cat? 17:46:48 <frosch123> you need to wait for dm to leave, before cat can return 17:47:07 <Wolf01> Ahaha 17:55:11 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 18:02:43 <Wolf01> Ok, now the cat should come in minutes 18:05:23 <Kippers> How do I make the git commit checker check my pull request once more? 18:05:55 *** Wojtek has joined #openttd 18:06:05 <nielsm> Kippers: the ruble one? 18:06:16 *** DanMacK has joined #openttd 18:06:56 <nielsm> the issue now (which I forgot before) is that every commit indivudually must follow the style requirements, even if the style issues are fixed by a later commit 18:07:24 <nielsm> so you have to squash your commits together and force-push the branch to overwrite the original commit 18:16:19 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 18:17:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:19:05 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 18:24:51 <Wolf01> andythenorth 18:24:51 *** wsm has quit IRC 18:25:01 <andythenorth> hi Wolf01 18:25:09 <andythenorth> ever broken the end off a big LA? 18:25:38 *** c0c0dril0 has joined #openttd 18:25:51 <Wolf01> I tried to purchase the cardboard box only, but the seller didn't want to sell it without the Bugatti inside :D 18:26:12 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 18:26:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 18:27:51 <andythenorth> :P 18:27:52 <andythenorth> oof 18:32:55 *** DanMacK has joined #openttd 18:33:00 <LordAro> 19:16:19 -!- DanMacK [~androirc@CPEf81d0f8a7353-CMf81d0f8a7350.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:33:03 <LordAro> 19:17:20 -!- andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc87219-aztw31-2-0-cust178.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:33:06 <LordAro> amazing. 18:33:11 *** tokai has quit IRC 18:34:15 <Alberth> it's not the first time :p 18:35:35 *** DanMacK has left #openttd 18:35:51 <Kippers> nielsm Ok, so I have to do some git magic? 18:36:35 <Kippers> Gee, I sure don't hope future generations look to my repos as a shining example of how to do git 18:37:15 <andythenorth> oof 18:37:19 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 18:39:10 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 18:43:04 *** Eddi|zuHause2 has joined #openttd 18:43:04 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 18:59:22 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 19:08:03 <andythenorth> LordAro: 19:08:05 <andythenorth> oops 19:08:08 <andythenorth> keyboard fail 19:09:13 <LordAro> andythenorth: 19:10:30 <Wolf01> 19:11:37 <Kippers> Huh, I actually made git do what I wanted it to 19:11:38 <Kippers> That's a first 19:14:49 <murr4y> git, not unlike a computer, does exactly what you tell it to do, regardless of what you want 19:22:59 <Kippers> It truly is both a blessing and a curse 19:25:09 *** c0c0dril0 has quit IRC 19:27:37 *** cyberlard has joined #openttd 19:30:04 *** glx has joined #openttd 19:30:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 19:30:58 *** cyberlard has quit IRC 19:32:10 *** [itchyjunk] has joined #openttd 19:35:40 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 19:36:44 *** [itchyjunk] has quit IRC 19:36:47 *** dworf has joined #openttd 19:37:36 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 19:38:31 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 19:40:10 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 20:00:26 *** Progman has joined #openttd 20:02:39 <andythenorth> just 81 more trains to draw for Horse 20:02:45 <andythenorth> and the ones I've forgotten to add 20:03:46 <Eddi|zuHause> as long as the overall trend is negative... 20:04:22 *** dworf has quit IRC 20:04:25 *** ilera has joined #openttd 20:04:50 <andythenorth> so far 20:07:38 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:15:50 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 20:24:54 *** ilera has quit IRC 20:25:24 *** exaeta has joined #openttd 20:43:27 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:22:21 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:24:53 *** exaeta has quit IRC 21:25:24 *** averell has joined #openttd 21:27:05 *** get has joined #openttd 21:27:22 *** tigerman has joined #openttd 21:29:14 <tigerman> hi I am new to this 21:32:57 <tigerman> how do you get cars and plaines an 21:35:33 *** tigerman has quit IRC 21:36:54 *** get has quit IRC 21:37:27 *** affliction has joined #openttd 21:37:41 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. 21:40:32 *** affliction has quit IRC 21:40:42 *** szt has joined #openttd 21:41:13 *** szt has quit IRC 21:43:46 *** tigerman has joined #openttd 21:43:59 *** harzilei1 has joined #openttd 21:44:58 *** tigerman has quit IRC 21:45:52 *** elios has joined #openttd 21:46:19 *** cool_fire has joined #openttd 21:46:57 *** bigpresh has joined #openttd 21:47:55 *** bigpresh has quit IRC 21:48:17 <frosch123> the bots woke up again :) 21:48:39 *** brethil has joined #openttd 21:49:16 <LordAro> oh dear 21:50:43 *** brethil has quit IRC 21:51:14 *** ricardus has joined #openttd 21:52:46 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:52:55 *** ricardus has quit IRC 21:53:18 *** tharkun has joined #openttd 21:54:34 *** barjac_ has joined #openttd 21:55:02 *** barjac_ has quit IRC 21:55:13 *** sitri has joined #openttd 21:55:44 *** zaberdampfer has joined #openttd 21:56:03 *** tallguy has joined #openttd 21:59:14 *** tallguy has quit IRC 21:59:33 *** sam_ has joined #openttd 22:00:34 *** siso_ has joined #openttd 22:01:09 *** webpigeon has joined #openttd 22:04:14 *** webpigeon has quit IRC 22:04:40 *** planetma1 has joined #openttd 22:06:27 *** planetma1 has quit IRC 22:06:48 *** linuxdae1 has joined #openttd 22:07:45 *** linuxdae1 has quit IRC 22:08:02 *** justjann1 has joined #openttd 22:08:41 *** keoz has quit IRC 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uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate 22:37:47 *** l2y has quit IRC 22:37:57 *** johtso has quit IRC 22:38:04 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 22:38:26 <Supercheese> not this again... 22:38:43 *** suim4 has joined #openttd 22:46:38 <debdog> prolly some discord (or such) guys trying to drive people away from IRC 22:48:34 *** suim4 has quit IRC 22:49:49 *** jan\ has joined #openttd 22:52:33 *** jan\ has quit IRC 22:54:00 *** revi has joined #openttd 22:54:30 *** revi is now known as Guest2473 22:55:24 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 22:55:41 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 23:07:59 *** memoryno- has joined #openttd 23:08:03 <memoryno-> With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ 23:08:07 <memoryno-> I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ 23:08:10 <memoryno-> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/ 23:08:13 <memoryno-> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate 23:09:40 *** memoryno- has quit IRC 23:09:57 <ST2> well, maybe +R is needed again :( 23:10:19 <Kippers> Most definitely is 23:11:21 <ST2> is peter1138 or LordAro or anyone with rights for it ^^ 23:12:20 <LordAro> not i 23:12:43 <ST2> oh, sorry the ping then :) 23:14:49 <ST2> I'm glad our servers use a small network that not attractive to spammers :D 23:17:26 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 23:24:59 *** Guest2473 has quit IRC 23:26:25 *** fuzzysockets has joined #openttd 23:26:54 *** DorpsGek sets mode: +R 23:27:22 <glx> done 23:28:08 <ST2> thx glx :) 23:28:44 <ST2> it's a pain that unregistered nicks can't join, but all for the greater goo :) 23:28:55 <ST2> good*