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01:21:33 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 01:37:39 *** Mazur has joined #openttd 01:47:41 *** Mazur has quit IRC 02:42:24 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 03:13:08 *** glx has quit IRC 03:39:08 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 03:39:42 *** haudrauf has quit IRC 03:41:01 *** haudrauf has joined #openttd 03:43:47 <snail_UES_> anybody here? :P 04:29:56 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 04:30:18 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 04:33:15 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 05:32:23 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 05:32:45 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 05:34:31 *** Smedles has quit IRC 05:35:03 <LordAro> TrueBrain: that is much more friendly than i would've been :> 05:35:11 <TrueBrain> I know; that is why I replied :P 05:35:56 <TrueBrain> hmmm .. why did nobody review #6868 yet, but newers of similar content were reviewed? 05:35:57 <TrueBrain> that is odd 05:41:08 <TrueBrain> right, off to work! 06:30:08 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 06:31:45 <andythenorth> OpenBU.com 06:31:54 <andythenorth> oof wrong window 06:55:21 <peter1138> Nothing there though. 07:39:19 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 08:18:19 <planetmaker> moin 08:20:09 <peter1138> Hi 08:21:45 <planetmaker> he, this openbu guy is funny. He always has these funky ideas :D He's not new, though 08:35:10 <andythenorth> will it rain today? 08:35:36 <andythenorth> dislike cycling in rain 08:39:37 <V453000> I'd pay for rain 08:42:21 <andythenorth> hmm 08:42:22 <andythenorth> bbl 08:42:24 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:02:23 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:22:39 <peter1138> That moment when you realise you didn't push the thing you were working on on your laptop. 09:33:54 *** gentz has joined #openttd 09:34:36 <gentz> Hello OpenTTD irc, hopefully some of you have knowledge with the openttd codebase 09:34:46 <gentz> My goal is as follows: 09:35:37 <gentz> I want to implement a "Smart" level terrain feature, which, if the user bumps into the terraform limit, it restarts that terraform the next day 09:36:13 <dihedral> so if the user does not bump into that limit, the limit will not be reset the next day? 09:36:24 <dihedral> so you are looking for a daily terraforming limit? 09:36:49 <gentz> If the user doesn't bump into the limit, then it is done teraforming 09:38:01 <gentz> Every tried to level a mountain in a server with a daily terraforming limit? It's very inconvenient 09:38:29 <dihedral> that's what the terraforming limit is there fore 09:38:32 <dihedral> ... for 09:38:39 <gentz> Anyways, I added a function called "SmartLevelDailyLoop", and it get's called every day 09:39:21 <gentz> But I'm not sure how to swich to the appropriate companies and issue a new "CmdLevelLand" for them. 09:40:29 <gentz> dihedral, I'll still be respecting the limits imposed. Only difference is that now I won't have to keep re-issuing the command repeatedly 09:42:48 <dihedral> now i get what you are after 09:42:51 <dihedral> ha! 09:43:48 <dihedral> i was under the imression you wanted to further restrict the terraforming limit, as to only reset it once per day - i.e. limit is not per terraforming action but per day 09:45:23 <LordAro> there's a config variable to increase/remove the limit 09:45:28 <LordAro> much better to use that 09:46:33 <dihedral> ^ what he sais 09:47:19 <gentz> I'm not the one running the server. I get that intention is to stop people from leveling the world to sea level, but I only want to lower the height of a couple mountains without getting carpel tunnel syndrome 09:47:33 <gentz> *I get that their 09:47:59 <LordAro> maybe the server owner wants to stop people from leveling mountains 09:49:09 <gentz> Well, then It's an ineffective counter measure. Currently I just use an autoclicker + the lower land tool 09:52:43 <dihedral> perfect - you have a solution :-) 09:53:03 <andythenorth> 64 cargo FIRS then? 09:53:20 <LordAro> i believe the original intention of the feature was to stop accidental/abusive "level the entire map" 09:54:31 <dihedral> gentz, you do not need to implement that feature server side, it would suffice for you to patch your client 09:54:48 <gentz> I'm not trying to implement it server side. 09:55:18 <dihedral> then there is no need to loop over every company 09:55:20 <dihedral> only your own 09:56:34 <dihedral> but quite frankly, I personally dislike the idea 09:56:38 <gentz> But don't I need to loop over all of them to get access to my "Company*"? 09:57:11 <dihedral> I find it a lot more challenging and interesting to build with unchanged terrain and minimize the need for terraforming 09:57:22 <LordAro> _current_company, or something iirc 09:57:59 <dihedral> the price for terraforming should be increased drastically :-P 09:58:16 <dihedral> that would actually force people to use those tools less 09:58:30 <gentz> They can increase the price if they want to (the server operators), I just want to level mountains till that happens :p 09:58:32 <peter1138> _local_company 09:58:40 <dihedral> hehe - terraforming is not a fixed cost but rather percentage of your bank balance 09:59:21 <dihedral> that would actually be a nice idea - make it 10% and you have a natural limit :-D 10:01:08 <LordAro> terraforming EU style :) 10:01:13 <dihedral> :-D 10:01:27 <dihedral> i genuinly like that thought 10:04:22 <dihedral> LordAro, where you first have to get the permission for the docmd before it gets scheduled and executed? 10:04:27 <dihedral> with a random factor 10:04:50 <dihedral> "Your request to build the 5th Trainsstation in x has been denied" 10:04:54 <LordAro> hey, people wanted a more realistic financial model 10:04:57 <LordAro> turn it up to the max 10:05:19 <andythenorth> add more politics too 10:05:31 <andythenorth> and geographical borders 10:05:32 <dihedral> that would be easy: initial loan = 0, buy credit with paypal and transfer it into the game with a bot and the ai 10:05:41 <andythenorth> so you have to do different compliance in different areas 10:05:52 <andythenorth> and territories also re-weight industry probability 10:05:59 <andythenorth> and mess with payment curves 10:06:03 <dihedral> hehe 10:06:06 <andythenorth> random offsets from the defaults 10:06:27 <andythenorth> then all those track sets with 14 kinds of electrification make sense 10:06:37 <gentz> Hmmm, another question, I see "DoCommandP" gets sent 5 parameters from terraform_cmd.cpp, but I can only find 2 definitions of it in command.cpp, one which wants 2 parameters and another which wants 7 10:06:40 <dihedral> :-D 10:06:43 <andythenorth> eh why don't the railtype grfs also have types for different signalling systems? 10:06:49 <andythenorth> that affects speed 10:06:56 <andythenorth> and we could have them adjust the pathfinder 10:06:59 <gentz> Anyone know where the third definition is? 10:07:59 <dihedral> what if stations never belong to a company but to the town, and you can only service the stations a town builds 10:08:25 <LordAro> gentz: probably default parameters, check the relevant header file 10:09:06 <LordAro> http://docs.openttd.org/command__func_8h.html#af56e7f6f41e2c8ba64abe224f5ca2b9d alternatively... 10:09:28 <LordAro> ...i realise that link isn't all that helpful 10:09:33 <LordAro> but the documentation in general probably is 10:09:35 <LordAro> maybe 10:12:13 <peter1138> Hmm, can I track how many times something has occurred in the past 24 hours (rolling) without keeping a history of every time it has occurred? 10:12:51 <LordAro> map of thing to number? 10:19:06 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 10:40:55 <gentz> Network-game sychronization failed... 10:40:56 <gentz> damn 10:41:14 <gentz> I've implemented it wrong :/ 10:44:25 <gentz> And in local games: "Can't level land here... land sloped in wrong direction" 10:50:18 <gentz> The thing is making docks... docks with no water 10:50:48 <gentz> https://i.imgur.com/iMaBSiV.png 10:51:59 <gentz> Err locks, and they do have water. Forgot abase was disabled. 11:20:01 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 11:46:48 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 11:52:09 <gentz> Hold on, that is abase... hmm for some reason I remember the water brighter 11:53:28 <peter1138> I recommend TTD graphics ;) 11:58:22 <LordAro> ^ 12:22:13 <gentz> Can someone explain to me why the CcTerraform callback isn't called when it fails to terraform (and gives a read message)? 12:25:46 <gentz> Well, it's called in single player games 12:26:01 <gentz> Not multiplayer games however... augh 12:34:00 <peter1138> In multiplayer the command is sent to the server and there is no immediate response. 12:35:31 <gentz> So, when the "only_sending" flag in DoCommandP is set true, I wont see the response? 12:36:05 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 12:36:41 <gentz> Time to add an "always run" callback, I guess :/ 12:39:08 <peter1138> Good luck with that. 12:39:57 <peter1138> Anyway, the callback should be called when the command comes back to you from the server. 12:40:46 <gentz> I want to add failed commands to a vector of them, so that I can keep retrying them 12:41:21 <gentz> When they come back (if they do) they don't appear to be calling my callback if it failed 12:42:16 <gentz> (I know my callback isn't being called cause I can't see the message in the log, nor hear the sound terraforming makes) 12:46:31 <peter1138> Looking at the code, I suspect the server also needs to know about the callback. 12:46:59 <gentz> By my callback I mean "CcTerraform" 12:47:12 <peter1138> Ah, modifying existing callback. 12:48:39 <gentz> I suspect there is a way to examine all the commands we are getting back? 12:56:20 <gentz> It's 6am and I've been working at this way too long. I think I'll go to bed and hope a sudden understanding of how openttd works internally pops into my head. (I wish that was how it works) 13:03:56 <peter1138> Nah, it'll keep you awake wondering, and frustrated. 13:10:01 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 13:12:04 <dihedral> you go to bed at 6 AM? 13:13:08 <peter1138> Well he started this around 3.5 hours ago... 13:13:18 <peter1138> And that's just the IRC side. 13:13:32 <peter1138> "A quick fix" no doubt. 13:16:26 <dihedral> hehe 13:23:31 <peter1138> Waking up in the morning... "well, maybe an autoclicker isn't so bad" 13:31:45 <dihedral> terraforming a mountain is bad! 13:31:57 <dihedral> regardles of the method 13:46:43 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:49:21 <peter1138> Morning. 13:49:57 <peter1138> dihedral, know anything about ASP.NET Identity, Single Sign-On, and how to meld it all together? 13:50:50 <nielsm> wazza 13:56:33 <dihedral> i've worked with asp, and with single sign on separate systems however 13:56:35 <dihedral> :-P 13:56:53 <dihedral> never touched .net or asp.net identity 13:57:04 <dihedral> what'cha got? 13:58:17 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 13:59:02 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 13:59:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 13:59:06 <Alberth> o/ 13:59:44 <peter1138> Currently I've got some kind of .net forms authentication 14:02:43 <Alberth> sounds dangerous 14:06:02 <peter1138> Pretty much. It's mixed with 2FA authentication, token-based auth and web services / non-web backend programs. 14:07:46 <dihedral> my contact to sso was mainly shibboleth and cas 14:08:04 <dihedral> a rather simple approach really 14:08:19 <dihedral> but that will not help you, unless you want to reinvent the asp.net wheel for sso 14:12:04 *** cHawk has quit IRC 14:14:24 <nielsm> okay why does timidity (the cmdline program) just produce silence here 14:17:41 <dihedral> have you turned up the volume? 14:17:58 <nielsm> I'm having it dump to a wav file and the wav file is zero all the way through 14:19:20 <nielsm> trying to have it use freepats, but it also complains about no instruments being mapped to all the various programs 14:20:21 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 14:27:38 <nielsm> fluidsynth works 15:09:31 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:12:10 <peter1138> It's a mess, isn't it. 15:13:59 <peter1138> I'm sure I had a patch once™ that implemented SDL_mixer support. 15:14:14 <LordAro> you should find that 15:14:23 <nielsm> there is a patch somewhere that uses fluidsynth as a library to render music 15:14:42 <LordAro> i remember that, should be PR'd, imo 15:14:45 <nielsm> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6611 15:14:49 <peter1138> Or at least, someone else did. Hmm. 15:16:03 <peter1138> Hmm, fluidsynth is nicer than timidity anyway. 15:39:43 <nielsm> so did anyone patch nml yet? :P 16:21:12 *** nielsm has quit IRC 16:24:58 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:41:37 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 17:02:33 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:06:10 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:17:43 *** innocenat has joined #openttd 17:41:23 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:42:23 <Alberth> o/ 17:44:27 <andythenorth> hi 17:56:44 <andythenorth> such cat 18:26:38 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 18:26:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 18:33:37 *** tokai has quit IRC 18:34:59 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 19:07:49 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 19:18:22 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:57:30 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 20:03:02 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 20:03:13 <Wolf01> Moin 20:03:19 <andythenorth> yo Wolf01 20:03:30 <andythenorth> which technic 2018 sets you buying? 20:03:50 <Wolf01> Everyone 20:07:04 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 20:08:50 *** Progman has joined #openttd 20:20:55 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:21:11 *** glx has joined #openttd 20:21:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 20:26:26 <andythenorth> I don't need a giant red crane in my house 20:29:42 <Wolf01> I do, I need it to move the boxes up and down from the top of the wardrobe 20:31:16 <Wolf01> https://www.brothers-brick.com/2018/08/01/the-biggest-lego-technic-set-ever-42082-rough-terrain-crane-review/ 20:41:20 <Wolf01> Also, we'll might have another grf for NRT 20:48:27 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:54:17 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:19:21 <andythenorth> bed 21:19:22 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:35:21 <Wolf01> Me too 21:35:24 <Wolf01> 'night 21:35:32 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:49:30 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:05:36 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:57:23 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC