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He is such a meany ... 08:33:40 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 08:33:45 <TrueBrain> seems he cannot recover from a netsplit :D 08:33:55 <LordAro> ha 08:34:01 <LordAro> not uncommon 08:34:50 <TrueBrain> the problem is, it is because I forgot to add code for it! :( I FEEL SO SAD 08:35:25 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 08:36:04 <Wolf01> Moin 08:42:03 <TrueBrain> hi Wolf01 08:42:14 <TrueBrain> hmm, so I see everyone in here is as sleepy as I am :) Little actively lately ;) 08:43:35 <Wolf01> What do you expect from saturday morning? 08:43:48 <TrueBrain> I meant an august week :P 08:43:56 <Wolf01> Also 08:45:36 <TrueBrain> well, at least DorpsGek_ii should reappear when needed :) 08:46:08 <Wolf01> I'm always here, only I don't have anything to say :P 08:46:20 <TrueBrain> you talk a lot for someone that has nothing to say :D 08:46:49 <Wolf01> I think that the real problem is that I'm literally always here 08:47:04 <TrueBrain> a problem for who? :D 08:47:19 <Wolf01> My health 08:47:32 <TrueBrain> yes; don't do IRC over sports :) 08:48:46 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:48:57 <TrueBrain> talking about addictions, hi andythenorth :D 08:49:00 <Wolf01> Another one which is always here also when on vacation 08:49:08 <TrueBrain> ;) 08:49:17 <Wolf01> :D 08:49:35 <TrueBrain> is it me, or is the Minecraft modding scene dying ... 08:50:32 <Wolf01> Maybe, but when I have worldedit, dynmap, and treecapitator/treeassist I'm fine 08:50:43 <TrueBrain> :D 08:50:54 <andythenorth> moin 08:50:59 <Wolf01> o/ 08:51:02 <TrueBrain> \o 08:53:13 <TrueBrain> Pfft, OpenTTD is the worst! Even Factorio has copy/pasting! 08:54:29 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:54:38 <TrueBrain> I made andy quit :( 08:55:01 <Wolf01> We tried to bring copy/paste come to OTTD but it wasn't well accepted 08:55:12 <TrueBrain> it ruins the game a bit :D 08:55:43 <Wolf01> Yeah, but sometimes takes out the boring parts 08:55:51 <TrueBrain> right, time to make myself useful this saturday; bb! 08:56:01 <Wolf01> Bye 08:57:17 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:58:26 <andythenorth> important FIRS developments https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9076/F404678C-D360-4146-A143-BBC292F2347F.jpeg 08:58:53 <Wolf01> But still, you aren't enjoying it :P 09:00:53 <andythenorth> I would be if my phone would hold an irc connection :p 09:01:26 <Wolf01> You shouldn't be allowed to have internet :D 09:02:53 <andythenorth> then I really would be bored 09:03:13 <andythenorth> I used to self-imposed ban internet on holiday 09:03:27 <andythenorth> but life is too short for that crap 09:03:54 <Wolf01> 12 days without internet access were the best days of my life :) 09:04:48 <andythenorth> ho ho 09:04:58 <andythenorth> I could do a smelting economy 09:05:07 <andythenorth> call it Mine Craft 09:05:15 <Wolf01> :D 09:05:34 <andythenorth> then people can repeatedly tell me it’s Minecraft 09:06:25 <andythenorth> is pizza a valid town cargo? 09:06:32 <Wolf01> Why not? 09:06:59 <andythenorth> do you order a trainload of pizza? 09:07:11 <andythenorth> rebalance all grfs? 09:07:20 <andythenorth> scooters instead of trucks 09:07:21 <Wolf01> Just make a set with pizza delivery scooters 09:08:02 <andythenorth> I miss the days when making grfs was only fun :) 09:08:19 <andythenorth> just draw any old crap and put it in for lolz 09:08:32 <andythenorth> like all of HEQS 09:08:56 <andythenorth> I blame V453000 09:09:14 <andythenorth> for making grfs serious business 09:09:32 <Wolf01> He made it a job :P 09:10:43 <Alberth> o/ 09:10:47 <Wolf01> o/ 09:11:57 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:13:34 *** synchris has joined #openttd 09:16:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:16:48 <andythenorth> Wolf01: eurobricks technic forum is having some kind of MOC meltdown drama :p 09:16:56 <Wolf01> Mmmh 09:16:58 <Wolf01> Must see 09:17:22 <andythenorth> I don’t have my login here so I can’t post :p 09:18:12 <Wolf01> This one? "Difference Between Criticisms"? 09:19:35 <andythenorth> yair 09:19:44 <andythenorth> escalates from nothing 09:19:50 <andythenorth> to stupidity 09:20:13 <Wolf01> We'll see if leads to a new ban wave 09:22:14 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 09:22:26 <Wolf01> BTW I wanted to make a mod to the Claas Xerion back when I purchased it, some guys told me that it won't be anymore a Claas because real ones don't have the mods I wanted to add and I should have changed name and colours 09:22:36 <Wolf01> My reply was "WTF?" and gave up 09:23:42 <andythenorth> fortunately, I was into model trains when I was a kid 09:23:52 <andythenorth> in a club with adult train fans 09:24:11 <andythenorth> so I quickly learnt all variants of the bullshit 09:25:00 <andythenorth> from “it must be super real” to “omg why have you even taken it out of the box, now you have devalued it as a collectable toy” 09:29:10 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:35:23 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:36:47 <Wolf01> BTW, you look a bit like Sariel :P 09:37:00 <Wolf01> Same talking on different forums 09:37:38 <andythenorth> maybe I am Sari 09:37:48 <andythenorth> Sariel * 09:37:57 <andythenorth> so 09:38:21 <andythenorth> ios disconnects network connections after 3 minutes, as policy 09:38:37 <Wolf01> Wtf 09:38:40 <andythenorth> so does coop still run a bouncer service? 09:39:14 <Wolf01> I think yes, I've seen some bouncers from cooplately 09:46:27 *** Samu_ has joined #openttd 09:51:18 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 09:51:53 <Samu_> oh, look who's here :) 09:52:42 <Samu_> i peaked at your wormai code, and wow it's so professional looking 09:52:50 <Samu_> makes my own look like puke 09:53:28 <Alberth> being aware of a problem is the first step :) 09:54:07 <Wormnest> Well I feel honored ;) 09:54:15 *** Samu_ has quit IRC 09:56:13 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:56:35 *** Samu has joined #openttd 09:56:55 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:57:17 <michi_cc> andythenorth: Try Colloquy, IIRC it manages up to 10 minutes in background (which is a hard iOS limit). 09:57:46 <andythenorth> I’ll try it 09:57:55 <andythenorth> I use colloquy desktop 09:59:11 <Samu> sorry, my connection dropped 10:00:32 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:02:11 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 10:04:51 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:46:56 <Samu> what's the difference between AIVehicleList_Station and AIStationList_Vehicle 10:48:08 <Samu> only now I noticed they were 2 11:08:21 <Alberth> Documentation says "Creates a list of vehicles that have orders to a given station" resp "Creates a list of stations which the vehicle has in its orders" 11:15:34 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 11:16:22 <Samu> i wand to create a list of vehicles that have orders to a station 11:16:37 <Samu> that would be AIVehicleList_Station, right? 11:17:40 <Samu> i think i figured it out, i had a problem with counting the number of vehicles, it was because I was giving a tile id and not a station id 11:18:14 <Samu> just testing for confirmation 11:18:51 <Samu> yep, it was it 11:22:02 <Samu> no wonder my min_air_distance was broken 11:22:06 <Samu> :( 11:27:52 *** Mahjong has joined #openttd 11:49:09 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 11:58:29 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 12:10:36 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 12:12:36 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 12:23:13 <Samu> how do I get the monthly supply of a station? 12:23:49 <Samu> i can only check cargo waiting :( 12:24:10 <Samu> cargo planned, cargo from by via... bla bla which doesn't interest me 12:24:44 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 12:49:00 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 12:54:01 *** ProSou has joined #openttd 12:54:50 *** ProSou has quit IRC 13:02:08 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:29:26 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 13:29:58 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 13:31:41 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:43:56 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 13:49:09 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:50:06 <Wolf01> BTW, andythenorth, almost all [MOC] of real vehicle has "it does not resembles the original vehicle" posts 13:51:01 *** Gja has joined #openttd 13:51:44 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:59:28 <Samu> i've got a strange helicopter that isn't being sold 13:59:46 <Samu> it's past his max age, and i got code that always sends old vehicles to depots 13:59:53 <Samu> but this helicopter is still flying 13:59:58 <Samu> the code doesn't detect it 14:00:01 <Samu> why 14:01:04 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:02:05 <andythenorth> Wolf01: if only real vehicles were made of ABS beams and panels :p 14:02:53 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pg2rkpgsq 14:02:58 <Samu> this is the code 14:03:24 <andythenorth> so I am designing NARS Horse 14:03:35 <andythenorth> on paper at least 14:04:21 <Wolf01> The only thing I didn't like about Sariel's reply it was some arrogance on showing what is a real liebherr moc, he could have taken an example of the 1060 and compared to the guy's moc like another one really did 14:05:03 <andythenorth> it’s also a really limited definition 14:05:24 <andythenorth> but eh 14:05:34 <andythenorth> ceci n’est pas un pipe 14:05:37 <andythenorth> etc 14:06:53 <andythenorth> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images 14:06:58 <Wolf01> Yeah 14:06:59 <andythenorth> such old news 14:07:11 <Samu> is it because of aircraft crashes? 14:07:32 <Samu> i can't keep track of all crashes 14:07:42 <Samu> some of them have already expired 14:08:02 <Samu> can't get the vehicle id if it expired 14:08:53 <Samu> can only think of a new vehicle getting the id of the old vehicle that crashed while it was being sent to a depot 14:09:13 <Samu> help! 14:09:31 <andythenorth> so 14:10:05 <andythenorth> NARS nerfs wagon capacity to encourage long trains 14:10:47 <andythenorth> I’m tempted instead to buff capacity to make use of relatively higher HP of NA locomotives 14:11:04 <Wolf01> Hmm 14:11:22 <andythenorth> so TL5 train is 30% heavier than UK Horse train at TL5 14:11:46 <andythenorth> that assumes there is 30% more cargo to move :l 14:13:09 <Samu> i think i know how to solve this... 14:13:45 <andythenorth> also NA Horse is relatively slower 14:14:04 <andythenorth> so capacity-per-tile-per-minute is lower 14:14:10 <Samu> on vehicle purchase, reset sendings to depot stuff 14:37:22 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:43:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:46:12 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:47:46 <Wolf01> Samu, I don't think that's the problem, maybe the problem is on how those vehicles are replaced, try without replacing crashed vehicles and see if the problem persists 14:50:53 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:53:14 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:56:22 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:58:00 *** Gja has quit IRC 14:58:44 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:59:33 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 14:59:36 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:03:24 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 15:09:03 <Samu> ok 15:09:06 <Samu> might be an idea 15:09:27 <Samu> but if the vehicle crashes after i've given the order 15:09:36 <Samu> hmm... 15:30:14 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 15:39:36 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 15:44:04 *** Gja has quit IRC 15:48:10 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 15:49:13 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 15:50:21 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 16:00:54 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 16:10:29 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 16:12:35 <Samu> wow, i got an unexpected assert which was actually helpful 16:17:09 <Samu> it's strange, the adjacentstation code is still failing me 16:28:04 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 16:29:49 *** Thedarkb1-T60 has joined #openttd 16:31:10 *** Gja has joined #openttd 16:35:39 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 16:44:38 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:47:01 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:50:40 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:52:57 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 16:52:59 <andythenorth_> well 16:53:30 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:55:15 <Samu> is there an abs in squirrel? 16:55:41 <andythenorth_> irl maximum power of US diesel trains has decreases 16:55:44 <Samu> if x1 - x2 is negative, how do i turn it possitive? 16:55:51 <andythenorth_> decreased* 16:56:13 <andythenorth_> this is a problem for progression :p 16:56:51 <andythenorth_> lower power = more reliable, more flexible 16:58:23 <andythenorth_> irl is bad for game design :/ 16:59:07 <andythenorth_> ideally technology would evolve every 30 years, with all stats evolving by linear fraction 17:04:58 <andythenorth_> also 17:05:53 <andythenorth_> Horse overlaps steam & electric xor diesel & electric 17:06:17 <andythenorth_> but for NARS horse there is also gas turbine for 1 generation :p 17:06:51 <andythenorth_> is that bad? 17:10:48 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 17:13:08 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 17:16:42 *** Thedarkb1-T60 has quit IRC 17:32:49 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 17:33:27 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 17:38:00 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 17:40:28 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 18:01:10 *** Thedarkb1-T60 has joined #openttd 18:02:54 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 18:05:18 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 18:05:42 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 18:06:03 *** tokai has joined #openttd 18:06:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 18:06:49 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 18:12:39 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 18:16:31 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 18:17:17 *** keoz has quit IRC 18:20:08 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 18:22:12 <peter1138> hmm, 18:22:31 <peter1138> odd, irssi's tab-completion isn't working. 18:24:11 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:25:26 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 18:26:32 <peter1138> Hmm, no, turns out my tab key isn't working. Odd. 18:27:07 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 18:32:45 <Samu> i'm so bad at this I get an error when trying to display an error message 18:37:12 <Samu> my poor coding skills 18:37:44 <Samu> that adjacentstation code is always the culprit 18:37:50 <Samu> most of the time 18:38:32 <Samu> assert(AIError.GetLastError() != AIError.ERR_STATION_TOO_SPREAD_OUT); 18:38:43 <Samu> that will help me 18:38:45 *** Thedarkb1-T60 has quit IRC 18:43:04 *** synchris has quit IRC 18:44:03 *** synchris has joined #openttd 18:51:19 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:51:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 19:23:00 *** Thedarkb1-T60 has joined #openttd 19:26:43 *** Gja has quit IRC 19:34:46 <Eddi|zuHause> broken keyboard, or terminal eating the keypress somewhere inbetween? 19:44:05 <Wolf01> Broken keyboard 19:46:11 <peter1138> Not working in firefox either. But alt-tab works. 19:46:46 <Wolf01> FBI redirecting your tab key 19:46:59 <peter1138> Ah, FSCloud! 19:47:26 <Wolf01> Dafuq? 19:48:33 <peter1138> Hmm, I rebound it but now it doesn't work with FSCloud closed :S 19:48:39 <peter1138> Ah, now it's working. 19:48:59 <peter1138> So apparently one program can stop a keypress reaching everything else :p 19:49:06 <Wolf01> Nice 20:01:08 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:08:01 *** HeyCitizen has joined #openttd 20:09:40 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:12:24 *** HeyCitiz- has quit IRC 20:17:43 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:23:26 *** Thedarkb1-T60 has quit IRC 20:26:59 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 20:43:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 21:35:54 *** roidal has quit IRC 21:42:30 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:51:12 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 22:04:39 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:05:05 <Wolf01> 'night 22:05:07 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:09:31 *** APTX_ has quit IRC 22:10:07 *** APTX_ has joined #openttd 22:13:31 *** cHawk has quit IRC 22:17:41 <Samu> once again i'm editing the stationadjacent code... this is so hard 22:20:11 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 22:21:48 *** Thedarkb1-T60 has joined #openttd 22:47:56 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:54:19 *** Thedarkb1-T60 has quit IRC 23:08:23 *** nielsm has quit IRC 23:22:39 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 23:26:48 *** synchris has quit IRC 23:29:55 *** Thedarkb1-T60 has joined #openttd