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00:02:56 <Samu> seems to be working 00:02:58 <Samu> yay 00:03:11 <Samu> the Info message wasn't displayed 00:03:16 <Samu> let me try turn it on 00:04:38 <Samu> okay, on my AI side, LuDi, i now got this.scp.SCPLogging_Info(true); 00:05:45 <Samu> yay, it works!~ 00:05:51 <Samu> message is displayed 00:08:05 <Samu> it is the AI can turn it on or off, the SCPClient_CompanyValueGS will get to display the info or not, based on what is set in the AI 00:08:11 <Samu> everything can be linked together! 00:08:44 <Zuu> Good night and happy coding. Stay calm and follow the API docs. :-) 00:08:51 <Samu> oki 00:09:10 *** Zuu has quit IRC 00:10:24 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 00:17:12 *** gelignite has quit IRC 00:21:05 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 00:32:50 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 00:50:54 *** lugo has quit IRC 01:38:38 *** Progman has quit IRC 03:46:53 *** glx has quit IRC 04:33:42 *** Samu has quit IRC 05:29:41 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 06:32:15 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttd 07:45:27 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 08:05:56 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:08:13 *** tokai has joined #openttd 08:08:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 08:09:34 *** lugo has joined #openttd 08:10:28 <andythenorth> moin 08:14:57 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 08:30:46 *** erratic has quit IRC 08:40:07 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 08:40:21 *** synchris has joined #openttd 08:42:54 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain requested changes for pull request #6989: Change: use vcpkg integration in Visual Studio https://git.io/fhTl8 08:43:32 <TrueBrain> gooooood morning andythenorth 08:55:03 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 09:01:53 <TrueBrain> hmm, is afxres.h still needed, I wonder .. 09:04:07 <TrueBrain> seems we don't 09:10:26 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 09:12:50 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain opened pull request #6991: Use vcpkg integration in Visual Studio https://git.io/fhT88 09:13:12 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #6989: Change: use vcpkg integration in Visual Studio https://git.io/fhT8u 09:13:13 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain closed pull request #6989: Change: use vcpkg integration in Visual Studio https://git.io/fhUip 09:13:34 <TrueBrain> anyone mind proof-reading #6991 MSVC instructions? :D 09:15:00 <TrueBrain> always a bit tricky to write instructions on something you never used yourself :P 09:16:12 <nielsm> looks okay to me 09:19:40 <TrueBrain> if you can express that with an approval, I would be very greatful :D 09:19:54 <TrueBrain> NO MORE openttd-useful! :D 09:19:57 <TrueBrain> best xmas present EVAH 09:20:48 <Eddi|zuHause> [citation needed] 09:22:39 <TrueBrain> so running all of OpenTTD's infrastructure on Azure costs around 400 dollar a month ... and just 100 dollar when you do the same on DigitalOcean .. why you ask? Well, DO gives bandwidth a lot cheaper ... 30 dollar vs 300 dollar .. 09:22:45 <TrueBrain> not sure why .. 09:23:57 <TrueBrain> did I really wrote greatful? grateful ofc ... 09:23:59 <TrueBrain> lolz .. 09:25:55 <SpComb> 75% of monthly costs are in bandwidth? 09:26:15 <TrueBrain> yup .... 09:26:17 <TrueBrain> odd aint it 09:27:02 <TrueBrain> k8s is about the same price, give or take (and ignoring storage) 09:27:20 <TrueBrain> but DO gives a 4TB a month CDN for ~30 dollar, Azure for ~300 dollar 09:27:49 <nielsm> installing the deps via vcpkg does take a while 09:28:13 <nielsm> caching them as a build artifact and importing into regular CI builds is def. the way to go 09:28:36 <TrueBrain> nielsm: ~10 minutes on Azure. But yeah .. exactly the reason I did that :P 09:28:50 <TrueBrain> and as vcpkg is just a folder you can just pick up and drop 09:28:55 <TrueBrain> super flexible :D 09:49:44 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 09:49:54 <Wolf01> o/ 09:52:58 <Wolf01> So valve lost satisfactory 09:54:49 <andythenorth> ? 09:55:21 <Wolf01> 3D factorio 09:55:24 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: we got enough funds? 09:55:27 <andythenorth> :P 09:56:00 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: "lost" .. Epic "won" is a better way of putting it 09:56:09 <TrueBrain> people are getting sick of how much money Steam holds back 09:56:12 <TrueBrain> and it starts to show 09:56:15 <Wolf01> Yep 09:56:26 <andythenorth> I had to install Steam once 09:56:28 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: still, DO is cheaper .. I dont get the pricing of stuff like azure (at all) 09:56:38 <TrueBrain> (or GCP or AWS) 09:56:42 <andythenorth> mostly $$$ 09:56:43 <TrueBrain> guess I must be using the calculator wrong 09:56:50 <andythenorth> AWS is ok on spot instances 09:56:52 <TrueBrain> or they are not meant for our size 09:56:58 <TrueBrain> bandwidth is the issue mostly ;) 09:57:02 <TrueBrain> the rest is comparable 09:57:10 <andythenorth> any guaranteed performance, commity cloud $$ >> self-managed hardware 09:57:17 <Wolf01> But I won't use Epic launcher, I'm just grabbing the free game they give twice a month and let it rot there 09:57:18 <TrueBrain> but DO is just very straightforward in their price .. no non-sense nothing 09:57:21 <andythenorth> commodity * 09:57:35 <Wolf01> Like uplay, like origin, like gog 09:57:50 <TrueBrain> that is the thing I like about Steam .. everything in one place 09:57:57 <andythenorth> Steam kept wanting to do stuff to my computer 09:58:00 <TrueBrain> but .. I can understand publishers moving away 09:58:09 <andythenorth> I just wanted to play ETS2, not have loads of extra shit and tinfoil 09:58:10 <TrueBrain> so we need an Open Source project that combines all those platforms into one :D 09:58:16 <Wolf01> <andythenorth> Steam kept wanting to do stuff to my computer <- like updating games? 09:58:23 <andythenorth> yeah 09:58:26 <andythenorth> and itself 09:58:27 <andythenorth> constantly 09:58:31 <andythenorth> with admin user permissions 09:58:41 <andythenorth> I hate giving sudo to anything 09:58:55 <Wolf01> That happens on windows too 09:59:53 <Wolf01> But usually when games need to update/install runtimes, my games are on a different HDD and don't require permissions to install/update 10:01:46 <Wolf01> Mmmh, my cat talks too much 10:04:45 <Wolf01> I think the best approach is the one like gog, you buy games on steam and you get a copy on gog too (if supported and while you keep it on steam, so no buy-redeem on gog-refund on steam trick) 10:05:41 <Wolf01> Then if you want to use gog for everything in one place you will be able to do it... too bad only 10 games of my 900 are supported 10:09:16 *** Progman has joined #openttd 10:21:06 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 10:24:46 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 10:25:07 <TrueBrain> how does Grafana work .. hmm .. I just want to subtract two queries .. 10:25:10 <Wolf01> NAT is shitty on this router :| 10:27:18 *** nielsm has quit IRC 10:31:44 *** cHawk has quit IRC 10:32:00 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 11:33:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i wish TF had a more modular station setup 11:34:18 <Eddi|zuHause> like i could freely combine passenger platforms, freight platforms and through platforms 11:34:32 <Eddi|zuHause> in any order 11:34:34 <Wolf01> Just build them side by side 11:41:57 <andythenorth> 91% 11:47:52 <Wolf01> Did you remove more things? 11:48:25 <LordAro> andythenorth: 1 Jan release? 11:49:58 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:55:21 <Eddi|zuHause> that question killed him 12:00:49 *** Jayvdw has joined #openttd 12:01:33 <Jayvdw> Hello! Wow, sure are a lot of people in here. I was wondering if I could ask a question as a starting OTTD player. 12:08:41 <TrueBrain> @topic get 3 12:08:42 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Don't ask to ask, just ask 12:09:04 <TrueBrain> and hi :) 12:12:30 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 12:30:23 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 12:35:36 <andythenorth> 92% 12:42:25 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 12:51:00 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: done by this evening? 12:51:19 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: could technically still call it christmas release :p 12:52:23 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/changelog.html 12:52:30 <andythenorth> I am doing the docs then shipping it 12:52:33 <andythenorth> 92% is enough 12:53:04 <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause: there's some station mods, but tbh those are even less modular 12:53:12 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: yeah 12:53:28 <SpComb> like curved stations... yeah, you have a selection of fixed radii to choose from 12:53:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't really tried mods, some looked interesting but not quite what i need 12:54:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i wish that stations could bend along existing tracks if extended 12:54:26 <SpComb> I should try OpenTTD again some day, because some things work better... not as flexible, but also less fiddly 12:54:54 <Jayvdw> I'm noticing there are a lot of NEWGRF's to download. 12:55:14 <Jayvdw> As a newish player, would it be better to stay away from adding some of those? 12:55:21 <Eddi|zuHause> there's still loads of tiny features missing from TF 12:55:22 <SpComb> building flyovers seems to have just been intentionally made so damn difficult... "bridge supports collision" 12:56:14 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: i can think of two easy fixes for flyovers: a) lower minimum height to trigger the option of building a bridge, and b) short bridges with 0 pillars 12:57:36 <Eddi|zuHause> minimum bridge height seems to be way larger than is needed to actually fit through the bridge, especially for bridges over roads 13:01:44 *** lugo has quit IRC 13:09:05 <Wolf01> <SpComb> building flyovers seems to have just been intentionally made so damn difficult... "bridge supports collision" <- flyover junction mod 13:09:44 <Wolf01> I have installed every mod which enhances the build of things 13:10:07 <Wolf01> But I need to try the latest patch which fixed some other problems 13:11:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm still getting a bunch of freezes, especially before autosave 13:13:22 <Wolf01> The previous patches solved that for me 13:18:21 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 13:18:42 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 13:25:43 *** Jayvdw has quit IRC 13:27:41 <Eddi|zuHause> but they seem to have significantly improved the economy, no more industries dying to any tiny hiccup in the supply chain 13:27:42 *** Flygon has quit IRC 13:38:19 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 13:39:24 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #6991: Use vcpkg integration in Visual Studio https://git.io/fhTam 13:40:05 *** glx has joined #openttd 13:40:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 13:43:47 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 13:44:07 *** Progman has quit IRC 13:51:30 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest1019 13:51:32 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 13:58:57 *** Guest1019 has quit IRC 14:07:12 <SpComb> I tried playing with the beta patch but it kept crashing, couldn't revert back to stable because of the newer savegame version 14:11:21 <TrueBrain> glx: is openttd the first project? As there has to be a reason someone added it in the first place? :D 14:11:26 <TrueBrain> (can you check? I cannot :D) 14:12:01 <glx> it's the first project in vs140.sln 14:12:10 <TrueBrain> and vs141 too? 14:13:01 <glx> same in vs141 14:13:20 <TrueBrain> good 14:13:22 <TrueBrain> less is more 14:13:27 <TrueBrain> guess someone fixed it and never updated the docs :D 14:13:30 <glx> I think it was not the case a long time ago, but for that I need to check the history 14:13:42 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain updated pull request #6991: Use vcpkg integration in Visual Studio https://git.io/fhT88 14:16:52 *** Borg has joined #openttd 14:19:13 <TrueBrain> glx: what it was is less important than what it is :D 14:19:18 <TrueBrain> and less documentation is better :P 14:19:50 <glx> indeed, it's better now 14:27:34 *** Samu has joined #openttd 14:27:39 *** Progman has joined #openttd 14:28:02 <Samu> hi 14:32:20 <glx> found it https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/a7914ca0b4e73bd6aa518ac5e7cbeb7a110d4827#diff-35a2864c314e4367eb1684bfe126a967 14:32:46 <glx> almost 12 years ago 14:33:09 <TrueBrain> this happens when people don't update docs :P 14:34:14 <TrueBrain> there was more non-sense in there btw 14:34:16 <TrueBrain> dead-links etc 14:34:26 <TrueBrain> hopefully all is good now :) 14:43:56 * andythenorth forgot how to release newgrfs 14:44:55 * TrueBrain wants someone to approve his PR :P 14:46:10 <Samu> my 12th function 14:46:13 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/puya3ikkl 14:46:21 <Samu> good english? good description? 14:46:37 <Samu> and good mechanic usage? 14:47:16 <Samu> i should be removing functions instead of adding :( 14:48:32 <andythenorth> lol bananas error handling only applies after the 11MB upload is done 14:48:36 <andythenorth> then I have to upload again :P 14:49:07 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: make it better! :P 14:49:16 <andythenorth> nah 14:49:18 <andythenorth> frog job 14:50:23 <andythenorth> faster jenkins please 14:50:26 <andythenorth> thanks bai 14:50:29 <andythenorth> (coop) 15:00:50 <andythenorth> Horse 2 alpha shipped 15:00:53 <andythenorth> now chores 15:06:44 <Samu> made a few slight changes to the function 15:07:02 <Samu> to ensure it always returns the expected values 15:07:26 <Samu> meh, feels bad to talk alone 15:25:51 <Samu> my AI is still slow in management 15:26:23 <Samu> i see stopped vehicles in the depot from 5 years ago, waiting to be renewed or sold 15:26:51 <Samu> i just dont know what to do anymore to speed this process at this point :( 15:28:57 <Xaroth> that moment when you open up your github activity 15:29:01 <Xaroth> and you see you're being stalked by planetmaker. 15:29:05 * Xaroth eyes planetmaker 15:44:23 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 15:49:46 <Samu> need to create a tl;dr readme 16:02:36 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jottyfan opened pull request #6992: Patch 1 https://git.io/fhTKB 16:03:55 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:26:37 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #6991: Use vcpkg integration in Visual Studio https://git.io/fhT6G 16:27:01 <glx> even if it's like approving my own PR ;) 16:29:02 <TrueBrain> haha :D 16:29:14 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain merged pull request #6991: Use vcpkg integration in Visual Studio https://git.io/fhT88 16:29:17 <TrueBrain> there we go, no more openttd-useful! \o/ \o/ 16:29:19 <TrueBrain> PARTYYYYY 16:29:25 <TrueBrain> tnx glx :D 16:31:43 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 16:51:24 <andythenorth> boom 17:08:53 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 17:09:14 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 17:10:37 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 17:11:11 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 17:24:57 <andythenorth> so more-cargos-FIRS time 17:27:22 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 17:27:44 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 17:37:03 <Eddi|zuHause> <glx> even if it's like approving my own PR ;) <-- the point of "approving" is to make sure at least 2 people were involved? 17:37:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i think that's the case here :) 17:37:53 <glx> yes it's to have a double check 17:40:00 <Samu> Zuu! how do I handle 2 different SCPClients, trying to detect if the game is NoCarGoal or CompanyValueGS or neither, can't get this to work properly 17:43:10 <Samu> especially the "neither" part 17:44:43 <Samu> you see, I have a do/while loop trying to detect if there's NoCarGoal or CompanyValueGS or neither. 17:44:57 <Samu> if there's NoCarGoal, the loop breaks 17:45:06 <Samu> if there's CompanyValueGS, the loop breaks 17:45:20 <Samu> if there's neither, the loop doesn't break, but I need it to break 17:46:59 <Samu> i tried with a counter with a limit of 500 tries 17:47:08 <Samu> but that can be a too long time 17:47:14 <Samu> before giving up 17:49:01 <Samu> halp https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pm8nykyc1 17:51:55 <Samu> if i check it against false, it breaks the loop too early 17:52:58 <Samu> is there a way that these clients could give another answer? 18:12:53 <Samu> trying a different approach 18:13:27 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pvyl4y1v5 18:13:33 <Samu> the counter outside the two whiles 18:14:09 <Samu> but it still has to timeout if there's "neither" 18:17:11 <Samu> why isn't the counter stopping? 18:17:12 <Samu> t.t 18:17:22 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 18:17:32 <Samu> oh, right 18:17:43 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 18:17:53 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i must have gotten a "wrong" mod, now i have silly "multiple unit" self-driving freight wagons, and i can't find which mod adds them 18:18:43 <andythenorth> is it a modern modding API? 18:18:47 <andythenorth> with XML and stuff 18:18:48 <andythenorth> ? 18:20:04 <Eddi|zuHause> who knows... 18:20:24 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/psveifvzx 18:20:51 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 18:41:26 <TrueBrain> funny, on Azure Pipelines it would mean that every PR change we fetch the docker from hub.docker :D That will be a lot of bandwidth 18:41:33 <TrueBrain> wish it could be cached somehow .. 18:47:32 <TrueBrain> how to get gfx files on the macos machine .. hmm 18:48:12 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 18:48:19 <Samu> isn't there a simpler way to get my company id? 18:48:30 <Samu> if (action_price.GetCosts() < cvgs.GetCompanyIDDiffToNext(AICompany.ResolveCompanyID(AICompany.COMPANY_SELF), false)) { 18:51:57 <glx> I think you can call ResolveCompanyID() once and store the result for use in other calls 18:52:49 <glx> because the index should not change in a running game 18:53:52 <Samu> hmm, sounds like something i should have done a long time ago 18:56:01 <TrueBrain> yippie, regression on MacOS passes :D Sweet :D 19:02:26 <andythenorth> nice TrueBrain 19:03:14 <nielsm> Eddi|zuHause, andythenorth, transport fever modding API? it's based on static data defined via Lua 19:03:25 <TrueBrain> Windows is SLLLOOOWWWW :P 19:03:45 <nielsm> i.e. it executes the lua scripts on game start and stores the data generated, then never calls into lua again during play 19:03:55 <TrueBrain> MacOS was done in 3 minutes .. linux in 6 ... Windows ... in 7 19:03:57 <TrueBrain> lame 19:04:19 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 19:04:20 <nielsm> TrueBrain, the windows build is not very good at multithreading, unfortunately 19:04:35 <TrueBrain> the linux builds are still with -j1 19:04:39 <TrueBrain> about to push them to -j2 :D 19:04:57 <nielsm> huh, I had to run the linux builds with -j2 to get them down from 5-6 mins 19:05:25 <TrueBrain> running just 'make' doesnt do CPU detection, does it? 19:05:40 <TrueBrain> fun fact: running 'make -j' is horrible :D 19:05:41 <nielsm> no 19:06:04 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 19:07:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i once made an alias so it would run -j12 19:07:54 <Eddi|zuHause> without me forgetting it all the time 19:09:37 <nielsm> TrueBrain, do you think it might be worth to find some contact at MS/azure and verify that using build artifacts as storage for docker images/dependencies isn't considered "abusive" (to avoid risk of nasty surprises later on) 19:10:17 <TrueBrain> nielsm: the docker images that are stored will fall off with retention; the only ones published as artifacts are only to be used by the job itself 19:10:23 <TrueBrain> so I assume they meant it to be used like that 19:10:42 <TrueBrain> (so the traffic is also only internal) 19:10:59 <TrueBrain> the Windows Dependencies .. they are only to be used by other pipelines on the same account .. but .. they are open for anyone 19:11:15 <TrueBrain> I am indeed not sure how they would like that to be used for the free accounts 19:11:17 <TrueBrain> that is very vague 19:14:06 <TrueBrain> nielsm: I will see if I can find a contact to ask this question :) 19:14:34 <TrueBrain> I guess I set it up, and ask them if they are okay with this way of using their Azure Pipelines :) 19:20:51 <LordAro> #6992 needs closing 19:21:17 <TrueBrain> well, someone first has to explain to him how to do it properly 19:21:20 <TrueBrain> in a nice tone 19:21:22 <LordAro> or pointing in the direction of the thing that resizes the window 19:21:24 <TrueBrain> then you can close it :) 19:21:43 <TrueBrain> but feel free :) 19:21:48 <TrueBrain> such a pointer sounds like a wonderful idea! 19:23:32 <TrueBrain> nielsm: tools like 'Atom' use it in the same way; still I will drop them an email :D 19:23:36 <TrueBrain> nielsm: or do you want to? :) 19:24:25 <nielsm> you set it up, and you have more seniority in the project, so I'll leave it to you :) 19:25:53 <TrueBrain> meh; seniority is overrated 19:25:56 <TrueBrain> I just want this done :D 19:36:21 <Samu> how do I get the 2nd item from an AIList? 19:36:56 <TrueBrain> nielsm: did you know it also integrates with GitHub Checks perfectly? Took me a bit to figure out how exactly, but damn, that is sweet :D 19:37:00 <Samu> list.GetItem doesn't do what I want 19:37:46 <TrueBrain> https://github.com/TrueBrain/OpenTTD/runs/44453205 19:37:50 <TrueBrain> I hope that URL works 19:37:54 <TrueBrain> but yeah .. awesomeness :D 19:38:29 <Samu> list.Begin() gets me the first item 19:38:49 <Samu> but if i want to get the item in the nth position, what would I do? 19:39:16 <Samu> list.Begin().Next().Next().Next() etc.?? 19:40:50 <TrueBrain> nielsm: linux builds are now down to 4 minutes :D 19:44:08 <nielsm> and the entire first minute is waiting for checkout isn't it :) 19:48:16 <TrueBrain> ofc! 19:49:49 <TrueBrain> okay, pipeline works. Now I just need to find out how to run the regression on Windows .. 19:50:02 <TrueBrain> that is for tomorrow :D 19:50:47 <Samu> I wonder if I should enforce asserts 19:50:53 <Samu> in a library 19:51:46 *** Kaiser has joined #openttd 19:51:59 <Kaiser> "Unfortunately due to new improvements in Toyland environment, we ran out of room in the map array, so we have chosen to eliminate train signals." 19:52:03 <Kaiser> What does it mean? 19:52:52 <nielsm> look at the date it was written 19:53:01 <Samu> it means devs should stop making jokes 19:53:27 <Kaiser> 2018-04-01 19:53:29 <Kaiser> Oh... 19:53:32 <Kaiser> Now i see 19:53:41 <Kaiser> 1st of april 19:53:44 <ST2> it was so perfect that at Dec. 26th someone still falling for it :D 19:54:16 <Kaiser> Feelin like a fool 19:54:37 <ST2> no worries Kaiser :) 19:54:43 <Samu> hi st2 19:54:47 <Kaiser> One more question 19:54:50 <ST2> hi :) 19:55:19 <Kaiser> Where's situated config file? I just wanna change in-game fonts 19:55:28 <nielsm> on windows? 19:55:31 <Kaiser> yep 19:55:51 <nielsm> in your Documents folder, it should have made an OpenTTD folder 19:55:57 <nielsm> then look for openttd.cfg in there 19:56:05 <ST2> https://wiki.openttd.org/Openttd.cfg 19:56:22 <ST2> location for some OS's 19:57:37 <Borg> Kaiser: looking for multiplayer game? :) 19:58:06 <andythenorth> 6992 happens for english translation too 19:58:09 <andythenorth> it's bad UI 20:00:43 <Kaiser> Maybe 20:04:25 *** Borg has quit IRC 20:11:57 <glx> TrueBrain: of course it integrates with github, it's even available from github market place https://github.com/marketplace/azure-pipelines/ 20:12:48 <Samu> Anybody can help me simplify this function? https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pwjr1knwo 20:12:55 <Samu> there's some repetition :( 20:14:28 <TrueBrain> glx: that is how the integration works; but it is not a given :) 20:14:37 <TrueBrain> travis for example doesn't integrate yet (at least, not last month) 20:14:44 <TrueBrain> it still uses the old ways of doing 20:14:47 <TrueBrain> so it was a nice surprise :) 20:15:50 <glx> but azure is a MS thing, and github too, so I guess their respective team can communicate together ;) 20:16:01 <TrueBrain> that is not a given 20:16:04 <TrueBrain> so again, a nice surprise :) 20:18:13 <glx> travis is more a gitlab thing IIRC 20:18:56 <glx> anyway it looks nice 20:25:30 *** synchris has quit IRC 20:37:07 <LordAro> glx: gitlab has its own ci system 20:38:32 *** Kaiser has quit IRC 20:49:12 * andythenorth should newgrf or something 20:50:21 <andythenorth> eh TrueBrain I'll reply to this https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=84525 21:04:03 <andythenorth> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1216513#p1216513 21:09:23 *** Zuu has joined #openttd 21:10:42 <Zuu> Samu: Don't detect if it is NoCarGoal or CV permanently, just query it where it makes sense to affect the logic. Or if you really need, detremine which it is at the start of your main loop and pass that along. But I wouldn't do that. I would assume that the boolean IsXYZ-method is cheap enough to use it inline. 21:12:21 <Zuu> Ie start building your first connection when the AI starts and it probably have not resoved yet which type of game it is, and then it will likely be known for connection 2+. But no need for seeing decisions so binary. 21:13:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 21:14:30 <Zuu> And for simplifying your function, it looks like there is repetion of some blocks. Maybe you can make a second method that implement one of those block generic enough (with parameters) that you can call it from your existing method for each of the blocks parameterized so it does the same thing as before. 21:15:01 <Wolf01> Chat buffer mode: on - <TrueBrain> there we go, no more openttd-useful! \o/ \o/ <- So if I want to compile now what steps do I need to do? 21:15:57 <Zuu> If you can record a state before you call your large method and after, it is possible to run the changed one and assert that it produce the same new state. 21:19:28 <glx> Wolf01: docs\readme_windows_msvc.md ;) 21:20:43 <glx> but it's really easy, follow quick start from https://github.com/Microsoft/vcpkg 21:21:15 <glx> then install the required libs 21:22:58 <Wolf01> +1 21:23:55 <FLHerne> andythenorth: 0ad (for example, I can think of several) has the dev revision log in a sidebar https://play0ad.com/ 21:24:13 <FLHerne> I think that's quite nice 21:33:46 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] agentw4b opened issue #6993: Enhancements: Allow the scenario (.scn) to run by using the parameter in the openttd.cfg file. https://git.io/fhTQd 21:37:57 <nielsm> TrueBrain, "# TODO -- Add a way to test (currently needs bash)" --- they do have bash (from git-packaged mingw) on the windows vm's 21:38:17 <Wolf01> Mmmh, it doesn't recognize vcpkg as a command system wide, even after the PS integration (I restarted PS yes) 21:39:08 <nielsm> it possibly needs you to log out and back in entirely 21:39:13 <nielsm> to update the default environment 21:39:30 <Wolf01> Strange, it should do it instantly 21:39:47 <Wolf01> At least with other things it worked 21:41:47 <Wolf01> Maybe I need to close all the PS shells 21:46:17 <Wolf01> Do I need to run the package install from the checkout folder or any folder is fine? 21:47:05 <nielsm> it installs the packages in the checkout folder regardless 21:47:59 <Wolf01> Of the vcpkg project? 21:48:17 <nielsm> yes 21:48:25 <Wolf01> Ok, then it worked 21:48:56 <Wolf01> Got a brand new clone of ottd master, it doesn't find the packages 21:51:23 <glx> specified x86-windows-static or x64-windows-static when installing the packages ? 21:51:35 <Wolf01> x64 21:51:50 <glx> vcpkg list will tell what packages are installed 21:52:05 <Wolf01> Maybe I should also compile for x64 instead of win32 21:52:38 <glx> if you installed only x64 packages yes 21:53:05 <Wolf01> I was used with my config which allowed to compile both 21:53:20 <Wolf01> Oook, compiled, fine, kthbye :D 21:53:31 <glx> if you want both you can also install x86 packages 21:54:14 <nielsm> I was just about to suggest you add a .vcxproj.user file next to the supplied .vcxproj to augment the build: https://gist.github.com/nielsmh/2aef12fbda4334b004365b8ab645b7d7 21:54:50 <Wolf01> That's the one I had previously :P 22:03:56 <Wolf01> VS2017 is really faster compared to VS2015, I miss some little utilities but finally I decided to switch :P 22:04:58 <Wolf01> Also bed, tomorrow work 22:05:02 <Wolf01> 'night 22:05:10 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:07:06 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 22:15:16 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:21:02 <andythenorth> bed 22:21:07 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:25:19 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:39:12 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #6987: Fix: [Win32] WIN32 may not be defined, always prefer the compiler pre… https://git.io/fp9vd 22:45:13 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pwcf1wdzf 22:45:27 <Samu> i'm such a terrible coder 22:46:30 <Samu> AITown.TOWN_ACTION_BUILD_STATUE is everywhere 22:48:23 <Samu> well, the AILog line is to be eliminated 22:48:37 <glx> but it's for 3 different calls so nothing you can do 22:49:04 <glx> yes except the duplicate call due to AILog line 22:49:13 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/ptjsvzrdg 22:49:16 <Samu> without it 22:51:02 <Samu> the ai company resolve should have been handled by now 22:52:01 <Samu> LuDiAIAfterFix.my_company_id 22:52:20 <Samu> kek, still big because... 22:52:39 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 22:53:03 <Samu> maybe an util 22:55:03 <Samu> function Utils::MyCID() { return AICompany.ResolveCompanyID(AICompany.COMPANY_SELF); } 22:55:35 <Samu> at least Utils.MyCID() is shorter 23:00:26 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 23:04:54 <Samu> the method 23:04:56 <Samu> the other is 23:05:11 <Samu> something that Albert teached me 23:05:57 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p3eeyjkqe. 23:06:06 <glx> you could just do local myCID = AICompany.ResolveCompanyID(AICompany.COMPANY_SELF); 23:06:35 <glx> and use myCID when needed 23:14:12 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:15:28 <Samu> I wonder how other AIs handle an AI that founds towns 23:16:05 <Samu> do they notice the new towns? 23:21:15 <Samu> done that 23:23:20 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:25:17 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p7uvaedf7 23:26:17 <Samu> oops, https://paste.openttdcoop.org/psh2zd1js 23:26:21 <Samu> without the AILog 23:29:31 <Samu> oops again 23:30:23 <Samu> if (perform_action && TestPerformTownAction.TryPerform(town, action)) { 23:30:58 <Samu> wait... 23:31:04 <Samu> if (perform_action && TestPerformTownAction().TryPerform(town, action)) { 23:31:21 <Samu> thats better 23:31:48 <Samu> the amount of redundancy in the names 23:31:52 <Samu> oh gosh 23:41:23 <Samu> hi zuu 23:42:09 <Samu> i start right away to decide not building HQ 23:42:16 <Samu> if CVGS is running 23:42:43 <Samu> NoCarGoal delay is much longer with 14 AIs 23:43:07 <Samu> CompanyValueGS seems to be fast enough, about 3 days 23:43:12 <Samu> with 14 AIs 23:47:22 *** Progman has joined #openttd 23:49:01 <Zuu> NoCarGoal has to register cargo delivery counters for all sources or destinations. If the map is not too large, it will be able to do so within mapgen, but if your map is too huge, then the mapgen ticks are not eounght. 23:52:15 <Samu> oh no 23:52:20 <Samu> let me test in a 4k map brb 23:54:51 <Zuu> But I don't see how it is a problem if you get to know that it is a NoCarGoal game after building your first connection or having built the HQ. If that is a problem, your AI is not robust enough. 23:56:52 <Samu> the monthly report signs seem to pile up 23:57:16 <Zuu> Then don't ask for them. :-) 23:57:49 <Zuu> Or turn them off if they are on by default, but you don't read them fast enough. 23:58:04 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC