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By done I mean "pushed the bike up cos it was too steep" 12:01:09 * peter1138 updates his Veloviewer stats. 12:01:52 <peter1138> KOMs: 6. Well that's going down :-( 12:02:11 <LordAro> :( 12:02:17 <LordAro> still, 6 more than me 12:02:25 <peter1138> Hmm, 10,800 miles on my road bike. 12:03:10 *** Samu has joined #openttd 12:04:07 <LordAro> i've got a 7th, apparently 12:06:21 <peter1138> Mine are very mediocre local things, of course :p 12:07:10 <LordAro> so is mine :p 12:08:27 <LordAro> and the KOM is a full 40s faster (over 2.5miles) 12:10:13 <peter1138> Two of my KOMs were due to lucky wind and being behind favourable traffic. 12:11:29 <peter1138> One large mobile crane that blocked the wind, dragged me along, and didn't go fast enough to leave me behind. 12:11:45 <LordAro> hehe 12:12:14 <Eddi|zuHause> what's a KOM? 12:12:46 <peter1138> First place on a segment on Strava. "King of the Mountains" but a bit more generic than actual mountains. 12:13:22 <LordAro> or even hills 12:13:38 <peter1138> Yeah, they can be flat or down hill. 12:13:48 <peter1138> Whatever somebody sets up, heh. 12:14:04 <LordAro> just some segment of road (or not road) 12:14:09 <LordAro> a route 12:14:44 <Eddi|zuHause> so, someone draws a line on a website, and others try to beat them on their time? 12:15:26 <LordAro> more or less, yes 12:16:55 *** spnda has joined #openttd 12:26:07 <FLHerne> I think I'm abouut as far from any of those as it's possible to get in the UK :P 12:26:36 *** gareppa has joined #openttd 12:27:00 <FLHerne> At the weekend I reached >100m above sea level for the first time this year, having gone to the other side of the county 12:30:47 <FLHerne> https://cycle.travel/map/journey/102386 - that far eastern bit of Cambs is a really nice area to ride, especially on a nice sunny evening 12:35:24 <LordAro> i can imagine so 12:35:40 <LordAro> nicely done though, nearly 80 miles is nothing to be sniffed at 12:38:18 <FLHerne> In fairness, I did stop in the middle to ring some church bells 12:39:15 <FLHerne> For some reason I refuse to cycle purely for its own sake, but to get somewhere I wouldn't otherwise go via a circuitous route is fine... 12:39:58 <LordAro> circuitous route for coffee and cake is fine for me :p 12:40:40 <LordAro> to change the subject completely, i came across https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0513/ recently, it might be helpful in "restoring" the generic linux builds 12:41:18 <peter1138> I tend to skip the cake these days, most cafes like to serve ginormous pieces at ginormous prices... 12:42:03 <peter1138> Portable can be restored, it just needs someone to put time into creating the docker images. Same with Ubuntu 19.04. 12:42:20 <peter1138> And as I use Debian, it's not on my itch list. 12:42:47 <LordAro> aue 12:42:48 <LordAro> aye* 12:54:21 *** supermop_work_ has quit IRC 12:55:59 *** Laedek has quit IRC 12:58:01 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 13:05:14 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 13:32:13 <peter1138> Veloviewer says if I keep up this rate, I'll hit 9000 miles this year, woo. 13:33:34 <andythenorth> I should tank less 13:33:40 <andythenorth> maybe I should start cycling for leisure 13:33:42 <andythenorth> instead of commute 13:33:48 <peter1138> Also, 6th out of 15,301 riders is not too bad. 13:33:58 <andythenorth> regular long-distance cyclists get health benefits 13:34:03 <andythenorth> especially if you're all weather 13:34:03 <peter1138> I commute and also leisure it... 13:34:18 <peter1138> Yeah I benefit from not being 18st any more. 13:34:52 <andythenorth> allegedly https://www.cycleplan.co.uk/blog/does-cycling-strengthen-your-immune-system 13:36:16 <peter1138> Let's do an audax together! 13:36:57 <peter1138> Oof, Sat 25th May, 400km from Mytholmroyd, West Yorks. 13:36:59 <peter1138> Maybe not :p 13:37:08 <Eddi|zuHause> <FLHerne> At the weekend I reached >100m above sea level for the first time this year, having gone to the other side of the county <-- i'm at 130m and the only way out of the village is up 13:38:01 <FLHerne> Fun 13:38:38 <FLHerne> The only way I could go downhill from here would be to jump in the river 13:38:40 <Eddi|zuHause> one of the main reasons why i haven't been biking in the last, say, 10 years 13:38:50 <andythenorth> it's definitely time for less coding 13:38:54 <andythenorth> and more something-elsing 13:39:27 <andythenorth> Openttd: it's finished now, right? :) 13:39:34 <andythenorth> we won all the prizes? 13:39:44 <peter1138> Just let JGR get on with it. 13:39:51 <peter1138> It's the standard anyway. 13:40:53 <peter1138> 200km from Aylesbury. Well that's local. 13:41:04 <peter1138> And I did it last year, so a bit tedious :/ 13:41:56 <peter1138> 200km tour of the lake district. That's gonna have some climbing... 13:42:49 <peter1138> LordAro, Inverness 1200! Let's do it! 13:43:52 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds fun, can i come? :) 13:44:13 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:45:28 <planetmaker> we definitely need a new vehicle type: bicycle ;) 13:45:54 <planetmaker> refittable, to 1,2, and maybe 4 people. Or 0.1t of cargo 13:46:19 <peter1138> 100kg? Oof 13:46:22 <nielsm> cargo is measured in 1/8 ton iirc 13:46:30 <planetmaker> ok. 1/8t. That's ok 13:46:31 <andythenorth> elbicycle 13:46:32 <nielsm> or was it 1/16 ton 13:46:43 <andythenorth> can I KOM on my electric bike? 13:46:52 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: https://www.flosstouren.de/images/conference-bikes-1000-2.jpg 13:46:59 <peter1138> Speaking of 1/16, when are we tackling the sub-tile resolution issue? :p 13:47:10 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, "bike" 13:47:12 <peter1138> Yeah... 13:47:20 <planetmaker> surely sounds and looks like an euphemism to call it "conference" bike 13:47:27 <planetmaker> and "bike" yeah :P 13:47:51 <Eddi|zuHause> it has peddals and is driven by foot power, how is that not a bike? 13:47:55 <planetmaker> http://www.bierbike.de/ is the more leasure version :P Or more honest 13:48:08 <peter1138> It's a cycle. 13:48:13 <peter1138> But not a bi-cycle. 13:48:25 <peter1138> Therefore, not a bike. 13:48:45 <andythenorth> quadricycle/ 13:48:47 <andythenorth> ? 13:48:50 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, that might be a particularly narrow definition that doesn't translate well 13:49:05 <andythenorth> can I have a three-wheeled bike? 13:49:08 <Eddi|zuHause> the german "fahrrad" doesn'T imply two-ness 13:49:09 <peter1138> What did you think the "bi" meant? 13:49:14 <andythenorth> is a bike 1:1 with bicycle? 13:49:15 <peter1138> trike 13:49:27 <peter1138> Is short for tricycle. 13:49:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i think "trike" is already taken for a motorized vehicle 13:49:42 <andythenorth> children have trikes 13:49:51 <peter1138> Only by motorists, and because trikes are less common. 13:49:59 <peter1138> Adult trikes exist... 13:50:11 <andythenorth> I have a three wheeled truck 13:50:13 <peter1138> I still want a recumbent trike but I clearly have no room for one. 13:50:21 <andythenorth> folding trike! 13:50:35 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, and "bike" also refers to a two wheeled motorcycle. 13:50:54 <peter1138> andythenorth, yes. 13:51:05 <peter1138> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RKscWeMg-s 13:51:31 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: it depends how you make assumption about the default understanding, i guess... 13:51:32 <andythenorth> hmm 13:52:35 <LordAro> peter1138: sure :D 13:53:39 <LordAro> peter1138: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J2gAY-WZhU i watched this the other day 13:59:41 * andythenorth tries to remember how musa works 13:59:47 <andythenorth> probably documented 14:03:58 <andythenorth> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/extra/musa.hg 14:04:22 <andythenorth> is redirected to openttd repo on github 14:04:28 <andythenorth> presumably there's another way? 14:09:32 <peter1138> Dunno. I don't know where the bananas source lives either. 14:09:39 <peter1138> Nor where bananas even runs, actually. 14:09:58 *** supermop_work has joined #openttd 14:10:07 <peter1138> Is it home time yet? 14:14:07 <peter1138> £53 for a bicycle tyre. FML. 14:14:48 <peter1138> Ah, £27, better. 14:18:51 <peter1138> Could go with Marathon Plus just to make my life hard. 14:19:06 <peter1138> (They're 3x the weight of other tyres) 14:41:25 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:45:41 *** WWacko1976-work has quit IRC 14:47:04 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 14:52:15 <FLHerne> Quite happy with my Pro 4 Endurance (v2) as a compromise 14:53:27 <FLHerne> They're a bit heavy and not very compliant compared to lightweight road tyres, but not like the Schwalbe things 14:53:47 <FLHerne> Next time I'll probably go for 25s instead of 23s 15:03:05 <peter1138> 53 might've been a pair. 15:18:54 <nielsm> https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20190515-00/?p=102495 wild! 15:21:52 *** gareppa has quit IRC 15:22:22 *** Fillipuster has joined #openttd 15:22:35 <Fillipuster> Hello? 15:23:34 <Fillipuster> Having some trouble connecting to a dedicated server running on my local network. I was hoping someone here could be of assistance :) 15:24:03 <LordAro> @topic get 3 15:24:03 <DorpsGek> LordAro: Don't ask to ask, just ask 15:24:07 <LordAro> :) 15:26:13 <Fillipuster> I've set up a dedicated server using docker on a linux machine. The server is seemingly running just fine, but I cannot seem to connect to it via my game client here on my main device. 15:27:25 <nielsm> can you ping between the machines? 15:29:38 <planetmaker> is it advertizing? are the ports open and routed? 15:29:41 <planetmaker> @ports 15:29:41 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 15:30:00 <planetmaker> (or whatever you configured in your config file for the server) 15:30:27 <planetmaker> 3978 is not configurable ofc 15:30:52 <planetmaker> make sure both, the OS as well as any routers allow these ports also for *incoming* 15:32:38 <andythenorth> wait what 15:32:44 <andythenorth> there is only one tyre in the world 15:32:51 <andythenorth> and it seems they've discontinued it :( 15:32:51 <andythenorth> http://www.cyclerepairman.co.uk/26%60-x-1.6-Continental-Sport-Contact-ATB-Commuting-tyre/www.cyclerepairman.co.uk/26%60-x-1.6-Continental-Sport-Contact-ATB-Commuting-tyre/2639.htm 15:32:53 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 15:32:58 <andythenorth> the ultimate tyre 15:33:17 <andythenorth> that shop has old stock, continental no longer make it 15:37:21 <andythenorth> should I file a ticket for bananas? 15:37:28 <andythenorth> or can I just re-open the previous issue? 15:37:49 * andythenorth thinks re-open 15:37:53 <andythenorth> it's just an ops thing 15:38:17 *** cHawk- has joined #openttd 15:39:24 <spnda> Does BaNaNaS not work again? 15:39:25 *** cHawk has quit IRC 15:40:30 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlu9 15:40:37 <andythenorth> doesn't work for upload 15:40:39 <andythenorth> to be specific 15:42:30 <andythenorth> fuck me, when did I last use svn 15:42:37 * andythenorth has to look up how that works 15:42:46 <andythenorth> musa is now svn-only 15:43:19 <Fillipuster> @planetmaker I have opened up my ports. I've been running a non-dedicated server using the same port setup without any problems previously. 15:43:38 <Fillipuster> Now that I've moved it to my server instead of my main machine (updating the referenced IP of course), it seems to break. 15:44:02 <Fillipuster> To clearify: Even a local LAN connection doesn't seem possible, so maybe it isn't the ports? :/ 15:44:04 <andythenorth> ok so musa is gone? 15:44:46 <andythenorth> nope I was doing svn wrong 15:45:57 <rubenwardy> using svn is doing svn wrong 15:47:47 <andythenorth> thanks :) 15:48:08 <andythenorth> that repays all the useless comments I make here ;) 15:49:54 <andythenorth> ok so musa is python2 and my projects are all now python3 15:49:57 <andythenorth> yum 15:50:36 <andythenorth> wonder if 2to3 works 15:50:53 <andythenorth> and how we get it out of an old svn repo, and onto GH 15:53:37 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] spnda commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlzI 15:54:06 <Sacro> \o/ 15:55:09 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 15:59:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:00:39 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 16:00:54 <andythenorth> spnda: thanks, I wonder if the problem is with my grf 16:01:12 <andythenorth> no easy way to test though 16:01:37 <spnda> I could try 16:01:42 <spnda> But I have nothing to update 16:05:53 <Fillipuster> Ah, I found the problem. For people running a server using a Synology NAS server + Docker: remember to inherit the network settings when creating the docker container. Otherwise the ports wont carry over. 16:06:00 *** Fillipuster has quit IRC 16:07:34 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas updated pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0 https://git.io/fhamZ 16:41:36 <peter1138> I chocolated. 16:41:48 <andythenorth> me too 16:41:59 <andythenorth> now regret 16:42:11 <peter1138> I was only at 900 kcal, no worries for me. 16:42:19 <peter1138> Got a MTB ride to do. 16:42:41 <Arveen> could eat more while riding it 16:42:55 <peter1138> Mmmm, no. 16:43:54 <Arveen> meanwhile i can let my hands off this can with Macadamia nuts 16:44:28 <peter1138> Moreish 16:44:43 <peter1138> At least nuts are healthy, chocolate is just... sugar. 16:45:31 <Arveen> well, they are honey coated and salted 16:45:34 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 16:46:05 <Arveen> but no chocolate heh 16:46:57 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:50:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i never regret chocolate 17:04:57 <Eddi|zuHause> a propos... 17:05:58 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:07:04 <andythenorth> biomass hoppers then? o_O https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/R6723_3204938_Qty1_1.jpg 17:07:20 <andythenorth> don't have any biomass cargo, but eh, details :P 17:12:57 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:13:36 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:14:16 <Wolf01> o/ 17:16:46 <peter1138> Now I have pitted prunes, yay. But no custard :( 17:20:06 *** arikover has joined #openttd 17:24:40 *** Gumle2 has joined #openttd 17:31:18 <Samu> WmDOT vs DumbAI on Toyland... hah! 17:35:09 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:42:43 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:42:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:52:16 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:52:22 <andythenorth> V453000: yeah 17:52:34 <andythenorth> I literally nearly added to the post 'sorry no lolz' 17:52:40 <andythenorth> It's Very Serious 17:56:33 <V453000> arr 18:02:20 <Wolf01> So, where does firefox downloads the updates? 18:04:11 <andythenorth> frosch123: quak, do we have any logs for bananas? 18:04:13 <andythenorth> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6940 18:04:16 <andythenorth> :) 18:06:58 <andythenorth> V453000: I think the lolz is having insane number of wagon types 18:09:22 <andythenorth> 23 so far 18:09:38 <andythenorth> moar 18:09:38 <spnda> andythenorth actually do you know what, might be because of V453000s NewGRF. It's really big if I remember correctly. Like massive 18:09:52 <andythenorth> V453000 broke bananas? o_O 18:09:59 <spnda> TrueBrain said it's sometimes due to big uploads in earlier messages 18:10:28 <spnda> "rarely all, often some, mostly when they did something weird (UTF-8 character, big upload, ..." 18:10:49 <andythenorth> I interpret that as 'the file that's failing is big' :) 18:11:01 <frosch123> nuts is not that big 18:17:37 <andythenorth> Horse is 15.3MB now 18:17:41 <andythenorth> is that too big for Bananas 1? 18:21:47 <frosch123> did you try iron horse, today 10:09 ? 18:21:57 <nielsm> aren't aBase or zBase something like 200 MB ? 18:22:40 <andythenorth> frosch123: allowing for timezone offset, yes that looks correct 18:27:00 <V453000> NUTS is 50MB uncompressed, 33 compressed 18:28:29 <frosch123> andy uploaded 3.6 MB 18:28:33 <frosch123> i doubt it's the size :p 18:28:37 *** Gumle2 has quit IRC 18:29:35 <andythenorth> the tar file is 15.3MB 18:29:44 <andythenorth> so is the upload getting truncated? 18:29:50 <frosch123> yes, then that'ts the case 18:29:56 <frosch123> i tried to extrac thte upload 18:30:01 <frosch123> and tar says eof 18:30:38 <Wolf01> Ok, after reinstalling it twice, both times with the setting on "never check updates" and deleting the updater exe it stopped to ask to install the update 18:30:58 <andythenorth> I tried switching browser, same result 18:31:03 * andythenorth wonders if the tar is broken 18:32:10 <frosch123> are you trying again? 18:32:28 <andythenorth> I just did 18:32:35 <andythenorth> tar _seems_ ok 18:32:56 <frosch123> 15298560 bytes? 18:33:48 <andythenorth> yup 18:37:06 <frosch123> can you please try again 18:39:07 *** Gumle2 has joined #openttd 18:41:06 <Wolf01> Wtf, it's still disabling the exstensions 18:41:43 <andythenorth> frosch123: yup just triggered another failure :) 18:42:15 <frosch123> a different one? 18:42:46 <frosch123> hmm, so the upload was complete 18:44:48 <Wolf01> Beta branch with xpinstall.signature.required set to false... not working 18:51:48 <frosch123> well, either the logging is broken, or there is no logging 18:55:29 *** jer_ has quit IRC 18:55:48 *** jer_ has joined #openttd 18:57:45 <andythenorth> oof :) 18:57:59 <andythenorth> I started down the musa alternative :) 18:58:11 <andythenorth> I now have the svn checkout of musa :P 19:04:07 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlaA 19:05:49 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlVe 19:07:16 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlVf 19:12:00 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlVI 19:15:20 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #7591: Fix #7590: decrement allocated_size in ScriptAllocator::Free() https://git.io/fjWHn 19:15:21 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 dismissed a review for pull request #7591: Fix #7590: decrement allocated_size in ScriptAllocator::Free() https://git.io/fjWF7 19:18:21 <andythenorth> python2 ../../tools/musa/musa.py -c musa.ini -u openttdcoop -p PASSWORD iron-horse-2.0.0-alpha-9.tar 19:18:27 <andythenorth> no ['.grf'] file 19:18:33 *** Gumle2 has quit IRC 19:18:56 <andythenorth> I guess I read rthe source :P 19:20:42 <andythenorth> the following files remained unpackaged: 19:20:42 <andythenorth> - /iron-horse-2.0.0-alpha-9/iron-horse-2.0.0-alpha-9/license.txt 19:20:43 <andythenorth> unpackagable files in directory 19:22:18 <andythenorth> is there a latency when using musa? 19:22:25 <andythenorth> metadata validated at server side 19:22:26 <andythenorth> uploaded 1253695 bytes of 1253695 bytes (100%) 19:22:52 <andythenorth> no update appearing in bananas web interface 19:29:15 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlVz 19:33:53 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:36:13 *** spnda has quit IRC 19:41:19 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 19:45:03 <frosch123> IntegrityError: (1062, "Duplicate entry 'Iron_Horse_2-2.0.0Alpha9' for key 'filename'") 19:45:39 <frosch123> so, database is broken from previous attempts 19:46:47 <V453000> :0 19:46:49 <V453000> horses overbred 19:48:55 <andythenorth> oof 19:54:34 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #7591: Fix #7590: decrement allocated_size in ScriptAllocator::Free() https://git.io/fjlVF 20:00:00 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #7591: Fix #7590: decrement allocated_size in ScriptAllocator::Free() https://git.io/fjWHn 20:00:09 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 closed issue #7590: If you change the game mode 9 times in succession, then the game crashes on the ninth attempt. https://git.io/fjWWD 20:04:43 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlwT 20:05:53 <frosch123> andythenorth: btw. your musa.ini contains a silly URL 20:07:12 <andythenorth> oh yes 20:07:20 <andythenorth> my keyboard doesn't work properly 20:07:25 <andythenorth> so paste doesn't work 20:07:28 <andythenorth> Apple quality 20:08:11 <andythenorth> fixed 20:18:54 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlwG 20:19:23 <nielsm> HI TB 20:28:27 <andythenorth> https://bananas.openttd.org/en 20:28:29 <andythenorth> 9a has gone in 20:28:55 <frosch123> :p 20:29:30 <andythenorth> TB suggested 10, but that messes up changelogs etc 20:34:53 <Eddi|zuHause> alpha9-hotfix1 20:34:57 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 20:39:08 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:39:58 <andythenorth> -final-final 20:47:28 <Eddi|zuHause> -real-proper-dirfix 20:48:12 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:50:32 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlwM 20:50:35 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:55:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:56:40 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fjlwx 20:56:41 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain closed issue #6940: Bananas - unhandled exception when updating grf https://git.io/fxait 21:00:51 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:15:53 <peter1138> Well that was a thing 21:17:39 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:19:14 <LordAro> peter1138: me too 21:23:47 <peter1138> And just drank half a protein shake (25g protein!) along with eaten soft figs and some raisins. Oh the sugars... 21:24:19 <Eddi|zuHause> you drank soft figs that were already eaten? 21:24:51 <Eddi|zuHause> (these modern diet things get weirder and weirder) 21:26:14 <peter1138> Yeah I grammared that badly. 21:26:41 <peter1138> 185 bpm, nice. 21:27:44 <peter1138> Last time I reached my max heart rate I felt quite sick for a couple of minutes. But since getting really slim my heart rate doesn't go up as much any more. 21:28:47 <LordAro> i got some nettle stings from when i collapsed in a heap at the top 21:29:12 <peter1138> Oof. 21:29:16 <peter1138> I've not done that. 21:29:27 <peter1138> I hit 193 bpm once iirc. 21:29:35 <peter1138> Which was somewhat excessive at my age :p 21:29:52 <LordAro> in theory my max heart rate should be somewhere above 190, but i've not got there yet :) 21:30:04 <LordAro> still, above 180 at all is new this year 21:30:22 <peter1138> Ah no, a mere 190 bpm. 21:30:55 <peter1138> I think it's 'easier' to reach if you're overweight, as the heart has to work harder than your legs. 21:31:14 <peter1138> Now I'm slimmer I find my legs give out sooner. 21:31:22 <LordAro> makes sense 21:31:25 <peter1138> Well, legs & lunchs. 21:31:26 <peter1138> ... 21:31:27 <peter1138> LUNGS 21:31:45 <LordAro> clearly you miss the cafe stops :p 21:31:46 <peter1138> I've got some rides where it says 229, but that was a faulty sensor :p 21:31:56 <peter1138> No cafe stops on a Wednesday night. 21:32:02 <peter1138> No cafes in the middle of the woods :p 21:32:08 <LordAro> well no, they wouldn't be lunches :p 21:32:33 <LordAro> i've had a few recordings above 200 before, i edit them out 21:32:36 <peter1138> Hmm. we never had lunches, only elevenses (i.e. cake & coffee) 21:32:45 <LordAro> well, sortoflunches 21:32:56 <peter1138> I'm tempted to get a power meter. 21:33:17 <LordAro> i was idly looking at them the other day, which sort were you looking at? 21:34:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i tend to try to stay below 130... 21:34:32 <peter1138> Haven't looked recently. The left-crank-only option seems the cheapest. 21:34:47 <peter1138> Staying below 130 is... not useful for exercising. 21:34:47 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like a way more sustainable rate :p 21:35:17 <peter1138> Although my average used to be 150-160 when I was heavier. 21:35:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i have this booklet that says going beyond that is a bad idea 21:35:37 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:35:49 <peter1138> My normal average now is 120-130. 21:35:58 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, it's not. 21:36:05 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, if you're not exercising it's bad, of course. 21:36:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not exercising nearly enough 21:36:54 <Eddi|zuHause> also, i need to procure some WD40 21:37:15 <Eddi|zuHause> and some R3 (AAA) batteries 21:41:12 <peter1138> I remember when I first started commuting on the bike, about 4 years ago now. 3 miles. Worn out shattered sweaty wreck. 21:41:59 <peter1138> Only took a couple of weeks to fix that to merely sweaty. 21:48:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:49:23 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:55:38 <peter1138> Right, I'm going to shower and then go to bed before I get the urge to continue eating all the things. 22:35:45 <Eddi|zuHause> unfortunately i'm not in a place where bike commute is feasible 22:36:58 <Eddi|zuHause> something like 25km to any place i would reasonably work at 22:37:11 <supermop_work> currently commuting by bike would likely take longer than walking 23:27:53 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stale[bot] commented on pull request #7515: Fix: Really check for start_date once an AI company slot becomes available. https://git.io/fjliJ 23:29:30 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 23:48:17 *** Samu has quit IRC