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07:23:47  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #7673: Unable to completely remove custom text from a town after setting it (via game script) https://git.io/fjSuX
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07:31:19  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on issue #7626: Building drive through road stop on town-owned one-way road crashes game. https://git.io/fjSuj
07:33:59  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #7626: Building drive through road stop on town-owned one-way road crashes game. https://git.io/fjSzf
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09:41:54  <TrueBrain> NOTICE: I am about to roll over to a new kubernetes cluster; if you notice anything weird on www.openttd.org (more than normal), please let me know! (it should be transparent, the roll-over ... but yeah ... you know how that goes :P)
09:44:45  * LordAro waves
09:47:05  * TrueBrain waves back
09:47:16  <TrueBrain> right, around now everyone should have been switched, assuming people obey the TTL
09:49:08  <peter1139> DNS change then?
09:49:19  <peter1139> 178.128.142.182. I don't know what it was before :p
09:49:19  <TrueBrain> yes sir
09:49:24  <TrueBrain> similar, but different :)
09:49:30  <peter1139> 2a02:b0c0:2:d0::dc6:7001
09:49:32  <TrueBrain> I love k8s .. redeploying is easy
09:49:34  <peter1139> .. 2a03 that is.
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09:50:59  <TrueBrain> DigitalOcean doesn't allow assigning floating IPs to LoadBalancer (yet)
09:51:06  <TrueBrain> so I changed the TTL to 60 a few hours ago ;)
09:51:22  <TrueBrain> and indeed, the old cluster is fully silent now
09:52:10  <TrueBrain> damn, this worked a lot better than I expected tbh :P
09:52:45  <TrueBrain> do IPv6 downloads work btw?
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09:54:55  <LordAro> well curl happily printed a zip file to my terminal, i guess so :)
09:54:56  <Samu> kubernetes
09:55:16  <TrueBrain> and I see IPv6s in the logs, so yeah, tnx
09:55:22  <TrueBrain> <3 Proxy Protocol
09:56:26  <Samu> what is kubernetes for dummies?
09:56:46  <Arveen> container system like Docker
09:57:52  <Eddi|zuHause> does that mean no more "ipv6 broke again" ticktets?
09:58:43  <TrueBrain> Arveen: that is dumbing it down a lot :P More: a good orchestration for containers :P
09:58:50  <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: nope, it doesn't mean that at all
09:59:06  <TrueBrain> it does mean: if a host crashes, Flannel doesn't fuck up, and things break
10:00:23  <TrueBrain> someone is polling our RSS feed every 2 minutes ... guess they REALLY want to stay up-to-date on the latest
10:00:23  <Samu> seems like a linux command line stuff
10:01:47  <Eddi|zuHause> send them a 403, and watch them retry every half a second?
10:02:12  <TrueBrain> worst part is, they download both the atom feed and the RSS feed
10:02:23  <TrueBrain> because maybe they are not in sync? :P
10:04:13  <LordAro> iptables -s <ip> -j DROP
10:04:15  <LordAro> :p
10:04:24  <TrueBrain> I used to do that
10:04:39  <TrueBrain> but we used to have people that queried their server every second
10:04:50  <TrueBrain> and were shocked to hear that was not reasonable use of our service
10:05:56  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not a fan of silently dropping these queries
10:06:23  <TrueBrain> that is why you should put your email address in the user agent if you make a bot like that :)
10:06:33  <TrueBrain> allows owners to contact you to ask: wtf?! :P
10:07:27  <Eddi|zuHause> still, replying with actual error messages might be better, unless it's a DDoS or spam
10:07:43  <TrueBrain> every second in those days was a DoS, yes
10:07:50  <planetmaker> hey ho :) a TB, what a delightful sight
10:07:55  <TrueBrain> hi planetmaker :)
10:08:13  <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: these days there are better solutions .. like redirecting IPs to a simple nginx that says: you are doing it wrong
10:08:33  <TrueBrain> resources are less of an issue I guess :)
10:08:57  <TrueBrain> we survived that dude with his fun youtube about OpenTTD just fine for example :P
10:09:25  <TrueBrain> (you did see that, right?)
10:09:35  <Eddi|zuHause> probably not :p
10:09:53  <TrueBrain> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1YlJ9J7_Jo
10:09:57  <TrueBrain> that dude is awesome btw :)
10:10:06  <TrueBrain> (oeh, I missed a Rick Roll moment here, did I? :( )
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10:10:29  <Eddi|zuHause> i've seen that dude before, just not this video
10:10:40  <TrueBrain> too bad people still think OpenTTD stands for something :P
10:14:21  <planetmaker> hm, na, didn't see that yet
10:14:25  <LordAro> i saw a link to it somewhere
10:14:28  <LordAro> apparently not here
10:14:32  <TrueBrain> well, enjoy :) It is hilarious :)
10:14:45  <planetmaker> but I noticed there's some youtuber who has an OpenTTD series
10:15:50  <planetmaker> but in German... so viewer count is rather limited: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLup1XDn_hBdnFfVYCMioEZDZ8hdECenT2 :)
10:16:54  <TrueBrain> 10k views is not bad
10:17:15  <TrueBrain> I like how he is doing it in HD :D
10:17:18  <TrueBrain> with 8bpp :P
10:17:42  <planetmaker> oh, well, yes :) and indeed... so people watch it with some time delay.
10:18:02  <planetmaker> he's now at season 6, not 2 which I linked from beginning of this year
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10:30:41  <Samu> 308 Permanent Redirect
10:30:47  <Samu> on www.openttd.org
10:31:37  <Samu> openresty/1.15.8.1
10:37:22  <peter1139> And?
10:37:54  <Samu> can't access site
10:38:08  <peter1139> You can. Follow the permanent redirect.
10:38:36  <Samu> doesn't redirect to anything
10:38:40  <peter1139> It does.
10:39:03  <Samu> nop, just says that, no redirection occurs
10:39:27  <peter1139> Learn to use your tools.
10:39:38  <peter1139> The new location is provided in the headers of the response.
10:40:26  <Samu> what link?
10:40:55  <peter1139> What?
10:41:02  <LordAro> Samu: go back a bit, what did you use to get the 308 response? because it wasn't a browser
10:41:47  <Samu> entered openttd.org/ and that 308 eerror pops, doesn't redirect anywhere, and no link
10:42:03  <Samu> got to go , take care
10:42:38  <LordAro> hang on, 308?
10:42:43  <LordAro> 301 is permanent redirect
10:43:14  <peter1139> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42136829/whats-the-difference-between-http-301-and-308-status-codes
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10:43:35  <LordAro> TrueBrain: that IP spamming the rss feeds wouldn't happen to be Portuguese, would it?
10:43:43  <peter1139> Haha
10:44:08  <LordAro> `curl openttd.org/` gets me a 301, anyway
10:44:15  <LordAro> (with a valid Location, ofc)
10:44:46  <peter1139> openttd.org has a different IP address to www.openttd.org, heh.
10:45:24  <LordAro> aha
10:45:32  <LordAro> yes, i get the 308 from www.openttd.org/
10:47:25  <LordAro> IE, Edge, FF & Chrome all redirect the 308 just fine
10:47:32  <LordAro> so i've no idea what he's managed to do this time
10:47:41  <LordAro> DNS weirdness somewhere, probably
10:50:17  <peter1139> Not using a web browser, I suspect.
10:50:55  <TrueBrain> depending on your tool, it doesn't follow redirects
10:50:59  <TrueBrain> and if you don't know how to read headers .....
10:51:31  <TrueBrain> LordAro: it is an IPv6, lets see if that is in the whois database
10:51:56  <TrueBrain> Deutsche Telekom AG
10:54:38  <TrueBrain> too bad, would have been funny :D
10:55:08  <TrueBrain> (btw, the 308 is because he hits http instead of https)
10:55:14  <TrueBrain> in case that wasnt clear :P
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11:10:38  <peter1139> Not really. 301 vs 308 is to do with POST staying POST, not http vs https.
11:10:52  <TrueBrain> I wasn't talking about 308 vs 301 :)
11:11:06  <TrueBrain> I was reffering to the fact he got a 308 :)
11:11:09  <TrueBrain> refffffering
11:11:10  <TrueBrain> lol
11:11:13  <TrueBrain> referring :)
11:11:19  <peter1139> Ah, well, we knew that :D
11:11:25  <TrueBrain> I assumed as much :P
11:11:38  <Eddi|zuHause> a propos hering
11:11:47  <peter1139> Is it lunch time yet?
11:11:56  <TrueBrain> yes
11:11:58  <peter1139> Kinda early for me but tummy rumbling.
11:12:18  <Eddi|zuHause> that, and i actually have to go to a place...
11:16:24  <peter1139> Gonna let my brie warm up a bit first.
11:17:02  <LordAro> referering
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11:47:33  <Samu> openttd.org works here
11:47:52  <Samu> didn't work on the other
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11:49:33  <Samu> if they plan to move me to the other side...
11:50:04  <Samu> oh fuck, this is not the life I had in mind
11:50:07  <Samu> :|
11:50:37  <Samu> no admin privileges there either
11:50:50  <Samu> this sucks, I can't do shit
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11:53:41  <Samu> I need my computer, or I'm going insane
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11:55:56  <peter1139> Didn't work in what, though?
11:57:14  <Samu> some other system where I got the 308 error when accessing openttd.org
11:57:29  <peter1139> What *software*?
11:57:31  <Samu> this is kind of an institution
11:57:41  <Samu> has multiple systems on some domain
11:57:55  <Samu> it was internet explorer
11:58:02  <Samu> not sure which version
11:58:15  <Samu> but it was also windows 7
11:59:04  <peter1139> So probably something ancient that shouldn't be on the Internet anyway.
12:00:06  <Samu> didn't look like a dated version, but not sure which one it is
12:00:25  <Samu> probably IE9?
12:01:55  <Samu> whichever IE comes installed with windows 7 as minimum version
12:02:26  <peter1139> That would be something obsolete, yes.
12:03:14  <Samu> youtube worked there
12:05:20  <Samu> here, there's IE11, just checked
12:05:26  <Samu> and google chrome
12:05:48  <Samu>  75.0.3770.142
12:06:31  <Samu> and there there was only IE, but didn't see which one
12:07:02  <Samu> I dont think i can go to the other side anytime soon now
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12:18:33  <Eddi|zuHause> <TrueBrain> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1YlJ9J7_Jo <-- am i the only one thinking finding money exploits in openttd is like shooting fish in a barrel?
12:23:13  <Eddi|zuHause> and he didn't even do the tree exploit "correctly"
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12:44:45  <Arveen> hehe, le interesting
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13:04:15  <Eddi|zuHause> "what portion of your audience wasn't born when this game came out?" ~ "45%"
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16:52:23  <andythenorth> o/
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17:14:40  <frosch123> 100% ?
17:17:02  <Wolf01> >9000
17:23:02  <Arveen> √1
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18:35:55  <andythenorth> 2 trains to draw
18:35:57  <andythenorth> both small
18:36:02  <andythenorth> small is hardest
18:36:12  <andythenorth> except for big
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21:31:35  <Samu> iamamiwhoami; drops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw0JmSRMXkY
21:31:56  <Samu> just some insanity music videos
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21:40:22  <Samu> the most interesting song names ever! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPFM3DUVT-8&list=PL0F146BDCE83D3371&index=1
21:40:57  <Samu> and videos too while at it
21:41:14  <Samu> ok, im off to sleep, take care
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