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It is my major achievement today. 14:18:09 <LordAro> peter1138: congrats! 14:18:36 <peter1138> Nearly reached 850 kcal! 14:25:08 <andythenorth> I had lunch 14:25:41 <andythenorth> pls send motivation 14:25:49 <andythenorth> I haven't done much OpenTTD-ish 14:28:07 <peter1138> What was confusing about lunch, then? 14:28:34 <peter1138> Here's some enlightenment, though... https://www.enlightenment.org/ 14:29:29 <andythenorth> thanks 14:29:51 <andythenorth> my current motivation is mostly to drive this tank https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Blitz:T95 14:29:58 <andythenorth> and do ISO 27001 compliance 14:30:59 <peter1138> Yes yes. 14:31:07 <peter1138> I'm going to 'drive' my bike later. 14:31:20 <peter1138> Lights are on charge :p 14:31:29 <peter1138> Forceast is wet... 14:32:13 <peter1138> Forecast, too... 14:35:38 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 14:41:53 <andythenorth> oof 14:42:02 <andythenorth> Apple have released a non-fucked Macbook 14:42:05 <andythenorth> hell froze over 14:42:13 <andythenorth> they've probably bizarrely broken it somehow 14:48:33 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:53:41 <andythenorth> hey, this is approved :D \o/ https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/7807 14:53:45 <andythenorth> just needs merged 15:22:07 *** Markk has quit IRC 15:29:42 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 15:35:24 *** Markk has joined #openttd 15:42:31 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:49:27 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #7831: Crash on placing vehicle in group that used to contain 1 vehicle https://git.io/JerJc 15:55:46 *** y2kboy23 has quit IRC 15:56:01 *** y2kboy23 has joined #openttd 16:05:10 *** NGC3982 has quit IRC 16:06:08 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 16:23:26 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:34:00 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 17:18:39 *** NGC3982 has joined #openttd 17:40:16 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #7831: Crash on placing vehicle in group that used to contain 1 vehicle https://git.io/JerJc 17:40:29 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:40:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:45:07 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #7831: Crash on placing vehicle in group that used to contain 1 vehicle https://git.io/JerJc 17:46:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:47:18 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 17:53:41 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #7827: Codechange: [AzurePipeline] add developer files section in manifest https://git.io/Jea88 17:57:43 <frosch123> andythenorth: does the website build stuff allow executing arbitrary tools? 17:58:12 <frosch123> it would be cool if it could osie on the screenshots and automatically add infos about the used newgrfs 17:58:17 <andythenorth> depends on how the question is framed 17:58:28 <andythenorth> jekyll is extensible with plugins 17:58:35 <andythenorth> there's no generic makefile or similar 17:59:12 <andythenorth> how would it detect the newgrfs? o_O 17:59:51 <frosch123> screenshots made using ottd's ctrl+s (so no external screengrab) include a magic png text chunk with the used newgrfs 18:00:04 <andythenorth> ooh 18:00:06 <frosch123> i have no idea how many screenshots are made using ctrl+s though :p 18:00:37 <frosch123> https://github.com/OpenTTD/osie <- i have not used it in years 18:00:43 <frosch123> so it may also be totally broken :p 18:05:10 <glx> something like https://jekyllrb.com/docs/plugins/generators/ could work ? 18:07:41 <frosch123> hmm, quite a lot of screenshots have no menubar 18:08:04 <frosch123> so likely no info available for most of them 18:12:02 <andythenorth> maybe we should get the savegame, not the screenshot :P 18:12:07 <andythenorth> massive overkill :) 18:12:09 <andythenorth> biab 18:12:10 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:32:02 *** Samu has quit IRC 18:45:49 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JerWM 18:45:49 <DorpsGek_III> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 18:53:57 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:54:34 <andythenorth> automatic screenshot upload from in-game, I curate and approve the best? :P 18:54:44 <andythenorth> or... 18:54:58 <andythenorth> €1 donation = 3 screenshots published? 18:55:03 <andythenorth> patreon levels? 18:55:15 <andythenorth> gotta pay for the new infra somehow eh TrueBrain? :D 18:55:30 <frosch123> that still adds work 18:56:05 <frosch123> how about: you must provide a mobile number with your screenshot, so people can phone you to ask about the used newgrfs 18:58:13 <TrueBrain> ding ding ding, we have a winner! 19:00:16 <frosch123> andythenorth: build 10 pieces of rail, wait 1 minute or pay 0.05€ to continue immediately? 19:02:56 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: the highest cost in there is the manual labour. you want a system where nobody actually has to do anything, and externalize all work to the users 19:03:37 *** D-HUND is now known as debdog 19:03:50 <andythenorth> some patreons give access to an exclusive discord 19:03:54 <andythenorth> I could be on that 19:04:08 <andythenorth> or we could let Zuck in, and use whatsapp 19:04:19 <andythenorth> I think it's important that whatever we do, Zuck gets revenue from it 19:04:24 <andythenorth> Bezos is already included 19:04:44 <andythenorth> I like this business model where you just lift a few dollars from everyone on the planet 19:04:45 <frosch123> do you want to turn this channel into a podcast? 19:05:07 <andythenorth> I already do a work podcast, not sure which is more interesting 19:05:14 <Eddi|zuHause> we don't even manage a consistent monthly blog 19:05:16 <andythenorth> we could get my mac to read out the channel? 19:05:20 <andythenorth> and record it 19:05:40 <andythenorth> there is a YT channel my kids watch, which just reads out the minecraft changelog 19:05:58 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: the disincentive to blogging is high :P 19:06:04 <andythenorth> I won't do another, fairly certain 19:06:37 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a famous video about the sims (3?) changelog 19:15:24 <andythenorth> oh wow PR count is down 19:15:25 <andythenorth> 48 19:15:30 <andythenorth> could be 47 trivially :P 19:15:46 <andythenorth> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+review%3Aapproved 19:26:06 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:31:29 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 19:32:06 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:38:26 <andythenorth> has anyone done the November blog post also? 19:39:59 <frosch123> wasn't there a release post? or was that october? 19:40:22 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #7807: Doc: revised README to be more helpful to casual GitHub visitors https://git.io/JeEde 19:40:50 <frosch123> oh, blog and release was 3 days apart 19:40:55 <frosch123> what a waste :p 19:41:48 <andythenorth> no comment 19:42:07 <andythenorth> michi_cc: thanks :D 19:42:18 <andythenorth> rewriting README was a surprising lot of work 19:42:28 <andythenorth> I had to read all of dev pages in wiki as well and fix them 19:42:44 <frosch123> docs are lot of work, that's why noone ever does them 19:43:42 <frosch123> but i don't think you can hire more wiki editors via a blog 19:45:15 <andythenorth> pleasingly, it was mostly deleting stuff 19:45:26 <andythenorth> signal to noise ratio wasn't great for dev pages 19:49:15 <frosch123> https://www.reddit.com/r/openttd/comments/dvsged/what_is_openttd_where_can_i_get_it/ <- extend the faq? :p 19:50:00 <andythenorth> just read that 19:50:19 <andythenorth> special page on OpenTTD website 19:51:20 <andythenorth> the subreddit doesn't actually explain anything about the game 19:52:06 <frosch123> that post is kind of the uncanny valley of trolls 19:52:49 <frosch123> you can't imagine how anyone would get to that place to ask such a question, but you also can't imagine someone fake-posting such a question 19:53:37 <frosch123> maybe someone lost their memory and checked their browser bookmarks 19:55:34 <andythenorth> maybe it's a bot 19:55:46 <andythenorth> I'm starting to wonder how much of the world is bots 19:56:31 <frosch123> 90% according to german politicians 19:56:51 <andythenorth> when I worked in adtech, I concluded that most ad 'clicks' were bots :P 19:57:24 <frosch123> most of my ad clicks are accidential clicks 19:57:27 <glx> hmm nightly failed (well manifest failed) 20:00:58 <TrueBrain> glx :( 20:01:19 <TrueBrain> poorly tested! :P :P 20:01:27 <glx> it works here :) 20:02:07 <TrueBrain> at least there is a clear error, that is a nice :) 20:03:16 <TrueBrain> euh, yes, += doesn't exist :) 20:03:22 <TrueBrain> please use a decent shell to test with :D 20:03:35 <glx> I use mingw shell 20:03:44 <glx> it's bash 20:03:47 <TrueBrain> I repeat: use a decent shell please :D 20:04:34 <TrueBrain> DEV_FILES+=" ${filename}" <- should be DEV_FILES="${DEV_FILES} ${filename}" 20:04:36 <TrueBrain> :) 20:07:25 <LordAro> hmm 20:07:36 <LordAro> is += really a bash only thing? 20:07:50 *** supermop_work_ has joined #openttd 20:07:57 <supermop_work_> yo 20:24:23 <TrueBrain> LordAro: yes, that is really really only a bash thing :) 20:24:59 <LordAro> interesting 20:25:24 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:29:27 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #7832: Fix e3511ecac: don't use bash specific syntax https://git.io/Jer8E 20:39:48 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 20:43:50 <TrueBrain> LordAro: not really; there isn't really a list I know of that tell you about these things 20:43:53 <TrueBrain> so it is just annoying as fuck 20:44:01 <TrueBrain> bash is evil, from that perspective :) 20:44:32 <glx> and whenever you search for shell script stuff you only find bash doc :) 20:45:32 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #7832: Fix e3511ecac: don't use bash specific syntax https://git.io/Jer8b 20:45:32 <Eddi|zuHause> man 1p sh 20:46:43 *** Samu has joined #openttd 20:48:48 <glx> of course the check doesn't want to start 20:50:15 <andythenorth> so all core docs done? 20:50:19 <andythenorth> just NRT to sort out? 20:52:37 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:56:59 <frosch123> i have to do dishes 21:02:10 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:10:35 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7832: Fix e3511ecac: don't use bash specific syntax https://git.io/Jer48 21:11:04 <TrueBrain> now you have 2 approvals glx, how about that 21:11:33 <glx> I'll just force merge :) 21:11:48 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #7832: Fix e3511ecac: don't use bash specific syntax https://git.io/Jer8E 21:13:04 <glx> haha and this time the CI starts 21:56:51 *** supermop_work_ has quit IRC 22:11:06 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:17:39 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:25:25 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:30:41 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened pull request #7833: Fix: Out of bounds tile access in ErrmsgWindow::OnInitialPosition https://git.io/JerBH 22:34:20 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7833: Fix: Out of bounds tile access in ErrmsgWindow::OnInitialPosition https://git.io/JerB5 22:44:36 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 22:49:03 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 23:30:19 *** tokai has joined #openttd 23:30:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 23:37:08 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 23:45:02 *** Samu has quit IRC