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Stick to OpenTTD :P 10:59:34 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i'm definitely ordering a new computer in the next days 11:39:16 <Eddi|zuHause> bridge construction seems to have become worse 12:16:17 <Eddi|zuHause> on the plus side, game uses only like 40% CPU (of one core) 12:16:38 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure that's helping anyone 12:37:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i'm done with this experiment :p 12:52:50 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:06:30 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 13:09:39 *** Samu has joined #openttd 13:17:18 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 13:17:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 13:24:16 *** tokai has quit IRC 13:34:14 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 13:55:47 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:30:20 *** supermop_work has joined #openttd 14:59:11 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 15:04:58 <nielsm> oh no, my games SSD is running out of space, need to uninstall train simulator to get space for transport fever 2 15:05:23 <Eddi|zuHause> nielsm: hope it doesn't look for you like it looked for me 15:06:11 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 15:08:10 <peter1138> nielsm, just get another SSD. 15:09:31 <nielsm> I ought to do a major system upgrade some time soon :) 15:09:31 <peter1138> £28.79. Not buying. 15:10:35 <Eddi|zuHause> btw, i played around a bit without stream, and noticed that if i set terrain to high details, the glitches are less pronounced 15:10:56 <Eddi|zuHause> and it's only the terrain that glitches, all other things are fine 15:18:39 <nielsm> could be a miscompiled shader? i.e. something with your gpu driver 15:24:24 <Eddi|zuHause> probably 15:26:45 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 15:29:43 <Eddi|zuHause> <peter1138> £28.79. Not buying. <-- what price is that? the game? 15:36:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i give the game another go in the evening 15:43:23 <nielsm> working fine for me: https://0x0.st/zUVB.jpg 15:43:42 <nielsm> except I can't find the option to invert rotation direction 15:44:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i was looking for that as well 15:44:54 <Eddi|zuHause> for mouse scrolling 15:53:59 *** supermop_work has quit IRC 16:06:34 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 16:09:16 <nielsm> okay the options to invert the movement are only available from the main menu, not in the during-gameplay menu 16:18:08 <nielsm> inverted panning with rmb is terrible, the movement speed of the terrain does not match the cursor movement, and if you move the mouse outside the window while dragging, movement stops 16:27:05 <peter1138> 15:43 < nielsm> except I can't find the option to invert rotation direction 16:27:08 <peter1138> ^ deja vu ;p 16:27:50 <peter1138> Maybe someone renamed it :D 16:32:44 *** supermop_work has joined #openttd 16:36:36 *** lugo has joined #openttd 16:37:07 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, have no clue why anyone would invent that, let alone set it as default 16:40:20 <lugo> Hi, ever since i changed my windows account name and hence the users folder name, i got problems with newgrf recognition in jgrpp; when starting a new game and go to the newgrf settings it tells me it can't find the file; funny enough using openttd-trunk i get no such message.. 16:40:52 <lugo> is there possibly a hard coded path for newgfrs in jgrpp? 16:41:59 <Eddi|zuHause> lugo: are you using a desktop link to start it? check the working directory of that link 16:45:35 <lugo> Eddi|zuHause: nope starting from within the installation folder 16:47:52 <Eddi|zuHause> lugo: try running "openttd -d misc=3" and check which locations it uses? 16:49:25 <lugo> when clicking rescan files, it recognises the files and boxes left from the newgrfs turn from red to blue, but when closing and reopening newgrf settings they are red again 16:49:30 <lugo> Eddi|zuHause: i'll try that 16:50:21 <Eddi|zuHause> lugo: most likely a problem with your .cfg file location (e.g. file/directory not writable) 16:54:09 <lugo> well i ran .\openttd.exe -d misc=3 in powershell, where can i check which location it´s using? 16:55:48 <lugo> also the newgrf file scan when starting up the game seems to get skipped after the first file 16:56:40 <lugo> again, only when using jgrpp, everything is fine with trunk 16:57:35 <lugo> both using the same openttd.cfg located in my users folder 16:57:48 <Eddi|zuHause> lugo: it should be one of the first output lines 17:07:29 <lugo> small excrept from the debug https://pastedb.io/paste/966fee62-ea7b-4dea-5211-1e00060b5752#6cd5b456b16519ec198aa10f48a617f76428b88aee65a13ab20613dab6d92b46 17:08:50 <lugo> scratch that 17:08:53 <Eddi|zuHause> dbg: [grf] [OPENTTD.GRF:2775] LoadNewGRFFile: Unexpected sprite, disabling <-- that should not happen 17:09:07 <lugo> https://pastedb.io/paste/2731fd0f-84de-4a03-6ea4-63196de59018#350c63e0efe910575d35856705a3b7596bc716846e82fa7023578a010bce3642 17:09:21 <Eddi|zuHause> you mixed two installations together or somthing 17:15:16 <lugo> i can't really rule that out yes 17:15:27 <lugo> i´ll try with a clean install 17:16:51 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 17:29:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:41:54 <lugo> ok, using a new installation and not using the openttd.cfg from the users folder, i still get that unexpected sprite warning 17:53:17 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:57:55 <lugo> apparently jgrpp doesn't use openttd.grf? so i might have mistakenly copied it to the basesets folder; deleting it didn't change anything besides the warning not being displayd 17:58:28 <lugo> *to the basesets folder of the grpp installation 17:59:55 *** supermop_work has quit IRC 18:02:11 <lugo> it still failes to find files which where scanned seconds earlier 18:07:25 <lugo> same story when downloading _new_ files from bananas, it does a rescan recognizing the newly downloaded file, but when adding to a clean preset list and closing the windows i get a debug message of the newly downloaded file not being found 18:21:58 <lugo> hard problem to describe for a bug report; i have no idea how this could be reproduced 18:26:08 *** supermop_work has joined #openttd 18:35:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:37:52 <andythenorth> yo 18:37:57 <andythenorth> my internet connection is down 18:38:01 <andythenorth> this is troubling 18:56:34 <supermop_work> oof 19:08:03 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 19:11:13 *** lugo has quit IRC 19:19:07 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 19:23:48 *** Wormnest_ has quit IRC 19:47:24 <Wolf01> Wtf, transport fever 2 has been released today and the workshop is already filled with mods 19:50:44 <nielsm> lots of people have had it for testing/review 19:50:55 <nielsm> and also there's probably stuff ported from TF1 19:59:40 <Arveen> hmm, is TF2 worth taking a look ? i'm basically just interested in building OTTD-like train network madness 20:03:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: the modders had some fun with the press-prerelease, i guess 20:04:01 <Wolf01> The night one looks interesting, too bad you can't see anything... 20:06:11 <nielsm> I haven't looked at the modding in TF2 at all yet, is it still as limited as in the earlier games? 20:06:18 <nielsm> where it was pretty much only static data 20:06:50 <nielsm> no ways to change the base behaviour 20:07:03 <Eddi|zuHause> it uses lua, but i think it's still only run at initialisation 20:08:37 <Eddi|zuHause> new try? https://www.twitch.tv/eddijk 20:10:01 <nielsm> that's rather low framerate... 20:12:04 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 20:12:17 <Eddi|zuHause> it's also glitchy, like i said 20:13:07 <Wolf01> Just a bit, one won't even notice 20:14:29 <Eddi|zuHause> it's only the terrain, once everything is plastered with infrastructure, it should be gone :p 20:21:19 <Eddi|zuHause> it's slightly annoying that you can't loan money without cancelling the construction 20:22:52 *** glx has joined #openttd 20:22:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 20:40:46 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:57:24 *** Arveen has quit IRC 21:17:25 <Eddi|zuHause> waiting for money is mildly annoying 21:18:05 <andythenorth> cheat menu? 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