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Log for #openttd on 11th March 2020:
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07:06:12  <andythenorth> LordAro: 2TallTyler has offered to run 1.10 title contest, I've provisionally said voting should close end of Saturday 28th March, leaving Sunday 29th to add the game to 1.10.0 release  Do those dates work?
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09:46:16  <andythenorth> LordAro :) http://webster.openttdcoop.org/?channel=openttd&date=1583884800#1583910372
09:47:32  <LordAro> andythenorth: i saw, i was waiting for you to reappear :p
09:47:34  <LordAro> seems good
09:47:40  <andythenorth> date works?
09:47:56  <LordAro> 2 weeks is a little short, but not anything we can do about that now
09:48:09  <LordAro> go for it
09:49:27  <andythenorth> cool
10:03:49  * peter1138 ponders switching to a bouncer.
10:04:21  <Eddi|zuHause> what's this? 2003?
10:04:34  <peter1138> :/
10:04:45  <peter1138> Or I could just fire up a client when I want to connect to IRC.
10:05:00  <LordAro> dirty
10:05:16  <peter1138> I'm using irssi still, so yeah, still 2003 ;)
10:05:57  * LordAro uses znc & irssi
10:06:11  <LordAro> for extra redundancy
10:06:27  <LordAro> though they're both running on the same server
10:06:30  <LordAro> but shhh
10:06:40  <peter1138> weechat?
10:07:04  <Eddi|zuHause> what's this matrix thing i've been hearing about?
10:07:09  <peter1138> Ew.
10:08:12  <LordAro> pretty sure that's what TB uses now
10:09:25  <peter1138> Anyway, I guess 10am on a working day is not the time to fiddle :p
10:09:44  <andythenorth> sounds ideal
10:09:53  <andythenorth> am I going in the office?
10:10:13  <Eddi|zuHause> might there be corona in the office?
10:10:39  <andythenorth> if I've got it, there will be soon
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10:17:15  <peter1138> I cycled in, obviously.
10:17:26  <peter1138> And I have my salad for lunch, obviously.
10:17:51  <peter1138> And I just ate a rocky road bite (because it's somebody's birthday), obviously.
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10:18:29  <peter1138> It was too much for him.
10:19:24  <milek7> huh, schools closed
10:19:32  <milek7> extra holiday
10:20:28  <peter1138> Study from home...
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12:56:31  <Samu> hi
13:28:51  <Samu> im scared of testing inflation
13:28:55  <Samu> but here goes...
13:32:27  <Samu> noes, it's just too much, can't see it surviving
13:35:27  <Samu> the struggle is real
13:38:09  <Samu> bankrupted after 20 years
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14:10:00  <Eddi|zuHause> so... i clicked "install proton 5.0" in steam, but lutris doesn't seem to pick up on it being installed, it only lists 4.11
14:38:25  <Samu> inflation lasts 190 years?
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14:43:59  <Samu> 170?
14:44:09  <Samu> need to find out
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14:55:02  <Samu> by the way
14:55:16  <Samu> why not let scenario editor load .sav files
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17:15:19  <Samu> oh no, my ai won't survive 170 years of inflation
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18:12:56  <Eddi|zuHause> how do i even find out which game in steam uses proton?
18:15:22  <milek7> all without native build?
18:17:17  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but i don't find that information in the library... only in the shop
18:18:18  <Eddi|zuHause> in the old library it used to say a line like "this game runs using steam play", but in the new one it seems completely hidden
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20:21:58  <TrueBrain> eat work sleep repeat, eat work sleep repeat,wait, what?
20:25:04  <andythenorth> repeat
20:25:42  <TrueBrain> nah, once was enough
20:26:03  <TrueBrain> I just really want to finish the first version of the new BaNaNaS before the end of the month :P
20:26:07  <TrueBrain> must ... finish ....
20:29:30  <andythenorth> completionist
20:29:38  <TrueBrain> yeah, I am the worst :P
20:30:06  <frosch123> i only know "eat rave sleep repeat"
20:30:18  <TrueBrain> your boss wouldn't like that :P
20:31:39  <Samu> https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html - woah, europe looks scary
20:32:07  <Samu> and i was thinking it was an italy thing
20:32:17  <TrueBrain> it is a "world thingy"
20:32:30  <TrueBrain> just because some countries, I am looking at you USA, doesn't test people, doesn't mean it doesn't exist
20:32:31  <frosch123> also, i wondered when work would order people to work from home because of virus... but guess what, they found a ww2 bomb 150m from work, so we have to work from home because the area will be blocked
20:32:43  <TrueBrain> frosch123: LOL!
20:32:46  <TrueBrain> does it have corona? :P
20:33:40  <Samu> spain: 2231, and portugal only 59?
20:33:57  <TrueBrain> it is weird like that .. like ... there are more people in spain .. dunno
20:34:00  <TrueBrain> my math is not that good
20:34:34  <Samu> anyways, things got serious over here
20:34:46  <Samu> numbers for portugal will
20:34:51  <Samu> fast
20:34:51  <frosch123> it's easier for large countries with less dense population
20:35:09  <Samu> and considering spain has that many, i fear the worst
20:36:10  <frosch123> china has a infection rate of like 0.00006, europe is way ahead of that
20:36:35  <milek7> testing rates differ by country
20:37:17  <TrueBrain> for example, it was found out that over here you cannot get yourself tested if you have not been to a risk-area :P
20:37:21  <frosch123> move to greenland, you are probably safe there
20:37:34  <TrueBrain> well, don't move now, you will take it with you :P
20:37:48  <frosch123> TrueBrain: yes, you need to have at least some symptoms. otherwise there is not enough test equipment
20:37:59  <andythenorth> it seems
20:38:00  <andythenorth> that
20:38:11  <TrueBrain> even with all the symptoms, if you haven't been in that region, they just consider it is most likely a common flu
20:38:15  <TrueBrain> and I am not disagreeing :)
20:38:17  <andythenorth> today lots of people are catching up with the panicking I did weeks ago
20:38:24  <TrueBrain> but it makes these numbers a bit ... useless :P
20:38:49  <TrueBrain> (numbers between countries)
20:38:53  <frosch123> andythenorth: never run with panicing people
20:38:58  <andythenorth> there is a medium post going round called something like 'why policy makers must act or people will die'
20:39:02  <andythenorth> which is going round UK
20:39:10  <frosch123> also do not run against them, 90° is probably best
20:40:08  <andythenorth> whatever the post says or prescribes, people are going to die
20:40:16  <andythenorth> and the dude is a professional blogger
20:40:21  <andythenorth> not an epidemilogist
20:40:38  <andythenorth> epidemiologist *
20:40:51  <andythenorth> funny how charts look official though
20:42:03  <andythenorth> still
20:42:12  <frosch123> Samu: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Fallzahlen.html <- there are huge regional differences, also here
20:42:25  <andythenorth> people in the uk being interviewed saying 'it's all a myth isn't it'
20:42:48  <andythenorth> frosch123: are they differences in infection, or differences in reporting and testing
20:42:57  <andythenorth> obvs you won't know :)
20:43:22  <TrueBrain> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES07spXWAAEGjO_.jpg <- they put this all over our office today (some collegas)
20:43:26  <TrueBrain> I thought it was funny :)
20:44:07  <frosch123> andythenorth: i think there is a strong correlation between rural/urban and low/high rates
20:44:23  <andythenorth> TrueBrain: is it the shapes that amuse you?
20:44:37  <TrueBrain> no, just the vibe: WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE, lets just even out when we die, k?
20:44:56  * andythenorth assumed some sort of gutter reaction to the curves
20:45:10  <frosch123> TrueBrain: don't worry. math knows: if you do nothing it will stop at 70% infection
20:45:13  <andythenorth> it's actually the most useful chart for general comms though
20:45:47  <andythenorth> we have healthcare, in many cases healthcare can keep you alive
20:45:51  <TrueBrain> the chart works very well against the debata: LETS GET IT OVER WITH
20:46:04  <andythenorth> healthcare is the rate limiting step
20:46:13  <andythenorth> no ventilator you die
20:46:20  <andythenorth> with ventilator you might not die
20:47:02  <andythenorth> anyway, we all had it in Jan-Feb anyway
20:47:07  <andythenorth> just wasn't tested :P
20:47:20  <TrueBrain> I refer you to the chart; please don't be "that guy" :P
20:47:23  * andythenorth has NFI if that's true, but we all had *something* that wasn't flu or normal rhinovirus chart
20:47:25  <TrueBrain> (in case you are wrong :P)
20:49:17  <andythenorth> so...bananas
20:52:19  <frosch123> ... is done in 3 weeks
20:52:33  <TrueBrain> not done; first version .. a "beta"
20:52:43  <TrueBrain> 2 weeks after that to production
20:53:12  <frosch123> that's too late
20:53:21  <TrueBrain> 31th of April, last mail said
20:53:25  <TrueBrain> 30th
20:53:26  <TrueBrain> oops
20:53:29  <frosch123> no, 4th/5th
20:53:44  <frosch123> no, 6th/7th
20:54:13  <frosch123> the service is retired end of april, but our yearly contract ends 6th/7th
20:54:21  <TrueBrain> exactly :)
20:54:22  <frosch123> i doubt we can extend for 20 days
20:54:26  <TrueBrain> we should be able
20:55:16  <andythenorth> it could just....go offline for a bit? :)
20:55:19  <andythenorth> maybe not
20:55:40  <TrueBrain> frosch123: I will check with orudge if that is possible :) As it seems we need that time to finish this up
20:56:03  <TrueBrain> the alternative is that we put BaNaNaS in read-only for how-ever long it takes us to finish this up :)
20:56:08  <TrueBrain> the read-part is done
20:59:00  <frosch123> oh, if that is an option.. it's not the first time bananas is broken for a week
20:59:11  <TrueBrain> exactly
20:59:31  <TrueBrain> anyway, I expect that this weekend I finish up a Docker version of the API and ingame-server
20:59:38  <TrueBrain> after that I will switch to infra
20:59:56  <TrueBrain> means we mainly have to fix authentication
21:03:40  <Heiki> how about a coronavirus NewGRF (get money for quickly transporting the virus to as many towns as possible, get even more money for transporting face masks and hand rubs and whatever to possibly infected towns)?
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21:08:14  <andythenorth> oof
21:08:28  <andythenorth> we need mutating cargos
21:10:29  <TrueBrain> NINJA TURTLES!
21:13:02  <andythenorth> cargo starts out as human, arrives as infected human
21:13:16  <andythenorth> cargo starts out as fish, arrives as that scandinavian stuff
21:13:29  <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming
21:13:48  <andythenorth> that gives a new dimension to 'cargo aging'
21:13:49  <andythenorth> :P
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21:15:56  <TrueBrain> okay, without writing files, my API can now create a new version in an existing package :D w00p
21:17:54  <andythenorth> \o/
21:20:52  <TrueBrain>     "Description is not yet set for this package; although not mandatory, highly advisable.",
21:24:23  <TrueBrain> and uploading new packages work :D Nice :)
21:24:42  <TrueBrain>  "upload-date": "2020-03-11T22:23:41.503232", <- that is odly specific
21:25:27  <milek7> is that wrong?
21:25:52  <milek7> at least it's unique
21:26:10  <frosch123> can you use it do reconstruct private keys?
21:26:39  <TrueBrain>       "upload-date": "2020-03-11T21:26:28.206644+00:00",
21:26:41  <TrueBrain> a tiny bit better
21:27:56  <TrueBrain>       "upload-date": "2020-03-11T21:27:42+00:00",
21:27:58  <TrueBrain> perfect :D
21:28:05  <TrueBrain> upload_date = datetime.now(tz=timezone.utc).isoformat(timespec="seconds")
21:28:08  <TrueBrain> things are never easy :)
21:31:12  <Samu> I really don't understand classes / constructors, and that...
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21:45:43  <Samu> maybe one day I'll try to understand them
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