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02:18:30 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:34:11 *** glx has quit IRC 02:46:19 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 02:58:45 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 03:02:12 *** debdog has quit IRC 03:35:33 <CornsMcGowan[m]> https://i.imgur.com/blrBK0c.png should we change the default sort of cargo payments from alphabetical to highest value first? 03:42:26 <CornsMcGowan[m]> i feel its easier to read down the list to find the cargo i want than it is to try match the cargo colour to the chart 04:28:06 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 04:36:00 <Eddi|zuHause> but would that be the value at the start or the end of the graph? 04:36:28 <CornsMcGowan[m]> yes 04:36:39 <CornsMcGowan[m]> the start i reckon 04:36:58 <CornsMcGowan[m]> greatest dispersion of values usually there 04:37:54 <CornsMcGowan[m]> at least in vanilla and firs3 economies, the lines are most spread out at the start 04:37:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not convinced it's a good idea 04:41:34 <CornsMcGowan[m]> hm 04:41:55 <CornsMcGowan[m]> are you happy with the current way the cargo payment rates graph is laid out? 04:55:27 <Eddi|zuHause> no, the whole window and the graph itself are horrible, the list order is the least of the problems 04:55:39 <CornsMcGowan[m]> lmao 04:57:54 <CornsMcGowan[m]> well, until somebody does a full remake of the window, i reckon for now this will be a good improvement 05:16:30 *** k-man has quit IRC 05:17:43 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 05:18:18 *** k-man has joined #openttd 05:40:39 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 05:58:20 *** keoz has joined #openttd 06:12:46 <andythenorth> yo 06:19:16 *** EER has quit IRC 06:35:27 *** berndj has quit IRC 07:14:27 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:32:58 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:33:21 <CornsMcGowan[m]> are we guarunteed that only one of the rail/road/tram/canal/airport build toolbarsa will be open/activate at one time? 07:33:47 <CornsMcGowan[m]> or that the toolbar instances will exist simultaneously 07:47:16 <Eddi|zuHause> for what purpose do you need that guarantee? 07:54:27 <andythenorth> hmm 07:54:54 * andythenorth wonders what the most performant way is to find out if an industry tile is at the edge of a layout 07:55:25 <andythenorth> pre-compute in python by checking offsets to other positions in layout (x, y)? 07:55:42 <andythenorth> or just do it in openttd by checking if neighbouring tiles are same industry? 07:57:29 <andythenorth> and whether it really matters :P 07:58:08 <Eddi|zuHause> intuitively i'd say you should encode that into the ID of the industrytile 07:59:09 <andythenorth> considered that, but (1) it consumes IDs too fast, there aren't that many (2) the ID is already used for animated / non-animated / differently animated 07:59:41 <andythenorth> I think it's probably 5 minutes work in python, if I think about it for a day first :P 08:12:51 <LordAro> andythenorth: don't try optimising before profiling 08:13:04 <LordAro> premature optimisation is the root of all evil, etc etc 08:14:57 <andythenorth> how do you profile newgrf tile varact 2 chain during industry placement? :P 08:15:09 <andythenorth> other than A-B testing, maybe with a GS 08:15:15 *** berndj has joined #openttd 08:15:19 <LordAro> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 08:15:22 <andythenorth> I do tend to agree :) 08:15:54 <LordAro> you could write the algorithm in something that can be profiled? 08:16:08 <andythenorth> I could just ship the change and await complaints 08:16:15 <LordAro> that works too 08:16:41 <andythenorth> I want to enforce a bigger minimum gap between industries 08:16:44 <andythenorth> currently 1 tile gap 08:17:02 <andythenorth> 2 tiles is potentially 4 times as many checks, depending how many vectors are checked 08:23:12 <_dp_> how's that even a question? ofc pre-computed stuff will be faster unless it's stored awfully ineffecient 08:31:24 *** cHawk- has joined #openttd 08:34:50 <andythenorth> efficient for who? 08:34:54 <andythenorth> OpenTTD or me? :) 08:35:04 <LordAro> whom 08:35:07 <andythenorth> too right 08:35:14 <LordAro> sorry, too obvious 08:35:18 <andythenorth> no I admire grammar pedantry 08:35:20 <andythenorth> genuinely 08:35:34 <andythenorth> 'to lunch' or 'at lunch' not 'on lunch' is the hill I will die on 08:35:57 * LordAro should of pushed andythenorth off of his hill 08:36:00 <LordAro> urgh 08:36:03 <LordAro> that hurt a bit 08:36:13 <andythenorth> ouch 08:36:16 <andythenorth> my eyes 08:43:26 <andythenorth> meanwhile in South Wales https://twitter.com/SalopianLyne/status/1280996984044822529 08:45:24 *** EER has joined #openttd 08:51:13 *** Sacro_ has quit IRC 08:55:18 *** Sacro has joined #openttd 09:18:37 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 09:38:33 <CornsMcGowan[m]> Eddi|zuHause: was wondering if i could get away with a singleton for the route planner tools or not 09:39:14 <CornsMcGowan[m]> LordAro: isn't it "should have" instead of "should of" 09:39:35 <LordAro> CornsMcGowan[m]: thatsthejoke.jpg 09:42:18 <LordAro> also "off of" is absolutely never correct 09:43:16 <CornsMcGowan[m]> i have been wooshed 09:49:24 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 09:52:52 *** Laedek has quit IRC 09:54:52 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 09:57:05 *** Osai has quit IRC 09:57:53 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 09:57:53 *** Yexo- has quit IRC 09:57:53 *** avdg has quit IRC 09:57:53 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 09:57:53 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 09:59:41 *** Webster has joined #openttd 10:01:49 *** tneo has joined #openttd 10:04:35 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttd 10:06:10 *** planetmaker has joined #openttd 10:06:10 *** Yexo has joined #openttd 10:06:10 *** avdg has joined #openttd 10:06:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 10:13:48 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 10:18:25 *** Hazzard has joined #openttd 10:19:16 *** Hirundo has joined #openttd 10:19:16 *** Ammler has joined #openttd 10:19:16 *** Osai has joined #openttd 10:19:46 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttd 10:44:28 *** blathijs has quit IRC 10:48:22 *** blathijs has joined #openttd 10:58:50 *** Laedek has quit IRC 11:00:12 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 12:59:45 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:35:56 *** heffer has quit IRC 13:45:12 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #8260: Codechange: Spell 'Viewport' consistently https://git.io/JJmhB 13:45:49 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #8263: Fix: refresh coverage on option switch https://git.io/JJmh0 13:46:48 *** heffer has joined #openttd 13:46:53 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #8264: Add: [CMake] Source group definitions for MSVC project filters. https://git.io/JJmhE 13:47:09 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #8258: Codechange #8258: Remove unused town cargo caches from the savegame https://git.io/JJmhg 13:47:59 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #8247: Fix #8162: Improve Error Message When Converting Town Owned Road https://git.io/JJvUx 13:48:05 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #8162: Converting town-owned road returns ambiguous/unhelpful error message https://git.io/Jfu9j 13:48:25 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #8236: Fix #7772: Show destination on mouseover when vehicle stopped (and not in depot) https://git.io/JfpUS 13:48:26 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #7772: Showing destination when stopped or waiting https://git.io/Je4C2 13:48:50 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #8196: Fix: Adjust .gitignore to CMake build system. https://git.io/JfMLt 13:48:59 <LordAro> crap, should've squashed that one 13:52:28 <CornsMcGowan[m]> lol 13:58:45 *** glx has joined #openttd 13:58:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 14:05:16 <CornsMcGowan[m]> hm, inflation affects prices by a fixed multiplier 14:05:42 <CornsMcGowan[m]> so should i use cargo->initial_payment for sorting or cargo->current_payment? they should result in the same outcome right? 14:09:06 *** tokai has joined #openttd 14:09:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 14:10:33 *** cHawk- has quit IRC 14:16:04 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 14:40:04 <CornsMcGowan[m]> https://i.imgur.com/9WWoCxI.png there we go 14:40:12 <CornsMcGowan[m]> sorted by initial cost 14:41:40 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 14:42:30 <CornsMcGowan[m]> https://i.imgur.com/7NN7de9.png with FIRS extreme 14:44:01 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 14:44:15 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 14:44:54 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Hexus-One opened pull request #8268: Change: Sort cargo payment rates legend in order of (initial) cost instead of alphabetically https://git.io/JJYvO 14:48:05 <glx> CornsMcGowan[m]: could it be configurable ? 14:48:16 <CornsMcGowan[m]> oh like, as a setting? 14:48:45 <CornsMcGowan[m]> possible to make it as such - i just swap between the macros in graph_gui.cpp 14:48:50 <glx> I think sometimes you want to show only some cargo, and it's easier to find them alphabetically 14:49:19 <CornsMcGowan[m]> oh like, adding extra buttons to sort, in the same way as industry list or station list can be sorted? 14:49:47 <glx> yeah 14:50:51 <CornsMcGowan[m]> that would be nice 14:51:02 <CornsMcGowan[m]> oh wouldn't that be more strings to mess with 14:51:16 <CornsMcGowan[m]> oh i could just steal the strings from vehicle list (name, cost) 14:51:44 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 14:51:57 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 14:53:14 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Hexus-One updated pull request #8268: Change: Sort cargo payment rates legend in order of (initial) cost instead of alphabetically https://git.io/JJYvO 14:58:27 <CornsMcGowan[m]> hm i'll leave making it configurable to another day 15:12:29 *** EER has quit IRC 15:29:44 <andythenorth> yo 15:40:14 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:44:50 <andythenorth> any further changes needed to this? https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/159 15:46:57 *** supermop_Home_ has joined #openttd 15:47:07 <supermop_Home_> yo 15:55:48 <andythenorth> supermop_Home_ still sharp (cheap, but sharp) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo-FRKYfpZ0 16:01:42 *** Econhero has joined #openttd 16:03:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:04:17 <supermop_Home_> andythenorth https://imgur.com/a/skthZHs 16:04:44 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:06:02 <supermop_Home_> andy looks weird with the flat sided 90s and mk4s, like a poor mans 225 16:06:46 <supermop_Home_> are there that many spare mk4s relative to 91 sets? 16:07:33 *** y2kboy23 has quit IRC 16:07:46 *** y2kboy23 has joined #openttd 16:28:15 <Econhero> Is the translation email id up? I have sent a message there to join. 16:37:59 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:38:11 <Eddi|zuHause> it may take some time 16:42:34 <Econhero> fine. Thanks 16:51:59 *** Flygon has quit IRC 17:05:51 *** Econhero has quit IRC 17:17:29 *** Borg has joined #openttd 17:30:04 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 17:33:04 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #8264: Add: [CMake] Source group definitions for MSVC project filters. https://git.io/JJImg 17:42:40 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 17:42:44 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 18:03:59 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 18:28:07 *** b_jonas has joined #openttd 18:56:34 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 18:58:07 <andythenorth> well 19:02:13 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 19:34:21 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 19:37:39 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 19:38:25 *** cHawk- has joined #openttd 19:43:58 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 19:45:02 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 19:49:07 *** Borg has quit IRC 20:01:35 *** blathijs has quit IRC 20:05:30 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 20:05:44 *** blathijs has joined #openttd 20:05:46 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 20:11:13 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:30:02 <supermop_Home_> well 21:34:27 <andythenorth> exactly 21:34:58 <Wolf01> Yes 21:38:49 <supermop_Home_> andythenorth https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/17600201302/in/photostream/ 21:51:13 *** HoppyHaus has joined #openttd 21:53:02 <HoppyHaus> Hey, is there a command to actually create a company? 21:53:08 <HoppyHaus> like, through rcon 21:55:30 <andythenorth> hmm do I need a OO Hymek 21:55:37 <andythenorth> not today 21:55:44 <andythenorth> also bedtime :) 21:55:46 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:14:23 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:17:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:41:32 *** Smedles has quit IRC 22:42:34 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 22:44:34 *** Smedles has quit IRC 22:44:43 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:46:45 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 22:49:38 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 22:58:03 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 23:44:19 *** Progman has quit IRC