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00:50:30 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] bebechien opened issue #43: [ko_KR] Translator access request https://git.io/JUNJJ 00:56:30 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:07:51 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 02:39:08 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 02:39:38 *** glx has quit IRC 02:42:33 *** debdog has quit IRC 03:25:58 *** Extrems has quit IRC 04:16:46 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 05:23:01 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 06:04:09 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:24:26 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:01:03 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] clzls opened issue #44: [zh_CN] Translator access request https://git.io/JUNuX 07:05:49 *** SpComb^_ is now known as SpComb 07:21:35 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 08:09:01 *** Extrems has joined #openttd 08:30:39 *** orudge has joined #openttd 08:31:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 09:43:10 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] StepanIvasyn opened issue #45: [uk_UA] Translator access request https://git.io/JUNM3 09:54:46 <LordAro> such translate 09:54:48 <LordAro> very language 09:54:56 <LordAro> so international 10:01:15 *** skrzyp1 has quit IRC 10:01:28 <TrueBrain> clearly we should support basesets and NewGRFs on our installation too :P 10:01:31 <TrueBrain> as we have the peeps 10:04:34 <LordAro> indeed 10:17:17 <andythenorth> such newgrf 10:17:27 <andythenorth> all those FIRS translations I've orphaned :P 10:28:37 *** pina[m] has quit IRC 10:28:37 *** yur3shmukcik[m] has quit IRC 10:28:37 *** cawal[m] has quit IRC 10:28:37 *** DorpsGek has quit IRC 10:30:13 <TrueBrain> only 2 matrix user disconnected? Not everyone? 10:30:15 <TrueBrain> awwwhhh 10:30:34 <LordAro> netsplit, not a matrix issue :p 10:30:42 <LordAro> took dorpsgek with it 10:30:51 <TrueBrain> okay, seems we have a solution for mail; we just migrate it to zernebok :) 10:30:58 <TrueBrain> funny, I do not see that in this client :P 10:31:02 <TrueBrain> it is not the best in join/leave :D 10:31:17 <TrueBrain> so with mail done, that means I only have to do supybot 10:31:49 <TrueBrain> almost done ... I can smell it ..... :D 10:31:55 <LordAro> :D 10:32:04 <TrueBrain> and I need to prepare the DNS zone on AWS for migration 10:32:13 <TrueBrain> openttd.com seems to work just fine, so that is now possible :) 10:41:18 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd 10:41:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek 10:44:03 *** cawal[m] has joined #openttd 10:44:14 *** yur3shmukcik[m] has joined #openttd 10:59:24 *** pina[m] has joined #openttd 11:02:32 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:04:27 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 11:16:39 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 11:25:45 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 12:08:18 *** glx has joined #openttd 12:08:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 12:31:12 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #43: [ko_KR] Translator access request https://git.io/JUNJJ 12:31:29 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #44: [zh_CN] Translator access request https://git.io/JUNuX 12:31:44 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #45: [uk_UA] Translator access request https://git.io/JUNM3 12:42:00 *** heffer has quit IRC 12:42:34 *** heffer has joined #openttd 12:56:38 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:17:50 *** Flygon has quit IRC 13:58:21 * andythenorth considers ripping the bandage off 13:58:28 <andythenorth> and blackening newgrf python 13:58:43 <andythenorth> enough life has been spent moving spaces around 14:03:02 <andythenorth> fuck me that's more readable generally 14:12:01 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:17:25 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 14:34:51 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:44:50 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 14:45:21 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 15:09:38 <supermop_Home> hi andythenorth 15:10:32 <andythenorth> yo 15:10:37 <andythenorth> alright? 15:10:58 <supermop_Home> ha 15:11:03 <supermop_Home> no, but who is 15:11:14 <andythenorth> human condition 15:11:14 <supermop_Home> congrats on horse 15:11:17 <andythenorth> ta 15:11:21 <andythenorth> such trains 15:11:55 <supermop_Home> haven't played any in a couple months so sorry for lack of feedback/ etc 15:12:31 <andythenorth> nah it's fine 15:18:19 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 15:18:56 <supermop_Home> https://www.johnlewis.com/kin-sarah-fennell-nakagin-print-t-shirt-blue/p3451545 15:19:04 <supermop_Home> never saw this 15:40:18 *** debdog has joined #openttd 15:43:43 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 16:13:55 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:14:59 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 16:16:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:24:13 *** Afdal has quit IRC 16:40:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 16:42:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:21:04 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:42:28 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 17:42:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 17:49:28 *** tokai has quit IRC 17:51:57 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JUAaP 17:51:57 <DorpsGek_III> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 17:59:31 <TrueBrain> msys still down? Holy crap ... Microsoft, fix your vcpkg plzzzzzz 18:00:09 <TrueBrain> Linux is also failing :( 18:00:12 <TrueBrain> LordAro: saaaadddddd 18:00:21 <TrueBrain> not your fault, from what I can tell ... apt fails .. 18:00:32 <TrueBrain> ah, there is no apt update first .. 18:01:21 <TrueBrain> the Windows action also fails with a very verbose error: "Error: Last command execution failed with error code '1'." 18:01:21 <TrueBrain> lol 18:02:10 <TrueBrain> https://github.com/microsoft/vcpkg/commit/76a7e9248fb3c57350b559966dcaa2d52a5e4458 18:02:15 <TrueBrain> vcpkg did patch their system 18:02:24 <TrueBrain> maybe glx knows what to fix now :) 18:03:09 <TrueBrain> 4 mirrors are china, 1 is russian .. there are 7 mirrors 18:03:14 <TrueBrain> should we be worried? 18:06:13 <TrueBrain> LordAro: apt-get update && apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends 18:06:21 <TrueBrain> that is what I normally use when I want to install apt-something in an automated way 18:54:28 <andythenorth> hmm 18:54:46 <andythenorth> sorry for being dense, but how does the black pipeline work for our projects? 18:54:57 <andythenorth> is it a post-commit code format? 18:55:05 <andythenorth> or does it just fail CI if you don't match black? 18:55:15 <TrueBrain> a human post-commit, and CI :) 18:55:44 <andythenorth> so far I am thinking I just apply it manually occasionally 18:55:58 <andythenorth> can't see an integration for my editor, and can't see how else to run it 18:56:52 <TrueBrain> that is what I do :) 18:56:59 <TrueBrain> "occasionally" being every commit 18:57:02 <TrueBrain> mostly after I made the PR 18:57:04 <TrueBrain> but what-ever :P 18:58:23 <frosch123> there are projects, which run code formatters on PRs and force push them back. 18:59:05 <andythenorth> seems overkill 18:59:05 <frosch123> but that does not apply to the single-auther case without PRs :) 18:59:37 <frosch123> andythenorth: it also removes a metric for judging the code quality :) 18:59:56 <andythenorth> I am dubious about auto code formatting 19:00:05 <andythenorth> but I have spent enough life doing it manually, I am bored of it 19:00:22 <TrueBrain> it is exactly that 19:00:23 <frosch123> "dubious" about what? are you worried it breaks your code? 19:00:30 <TrueBrain> why do something yourself if a computer can do it .. 19:00:49 <TrueBrain> that "ego" part has little place in development :) 19:00:50 <andythenorth> I am dubious about programming without learning abut readability 19:00:54 <andythenorth> about * 19:01:23 <frosch123> ah, don't worry. code formatter won't name your variables properly :) 19:01:59 <andythenorth> the rest of it, all the linebreaks and whitespace indenting blah blah 19:02:06 <andythenorth> I could happily never touch again 19:02:17 <TrueBrain> so stop touching it already 19:02:22 <TrueBrain> you really already spend too much words on it 19:02:23 <andythenorth> I installed black and ran it 19:02:45 <andythenorth> I am preparing to try and win a debate somewhere else 19:03:07 <andythenorth> you are practice :P 19:03:23 <andythenorth> debate practice, how Trump got covid :| 19:03:36 <frosch123> andythenorth: ah, in that case: only use code formatters to format code 19:03:51 <frosch123> as nml and eints show: data tables are not code :p 19:04:00 <TrueBrain> he is now immune, who knows! 19:04:10 <glx> oh I see https://github.blog/changelog/2020-10-01-github-actions-deprecating-set-env-and-add-path-commands/ in the logs 19:04:26 <frosch123> andythenorth: did he even have it? 19:05:10 <frosch123> i already wondered when that brazilian guy was reported to have it... it's also convenient to say "i survived it easily" 19:05:16 <TrueBrain> it was fake news .. just media .. 19:05:43 <glx> TrueBrain: ah vcpkg still fails for the same reason, but I think it's because we rely on the installed vcpkg and don't try to get latest version 19:05:45 <frosch123> the russian guy is probably too strong to even get it :) 19:06:24 <andythenorth> I wondered about data tables, but I didn't find any I made 19:06:41 <andythenorth> mostly just lots of lists, which blackening improves 19:07:20 <andythenorth> went looking for html / css auto-formatting, might try this https://prettier.io/ 19:07:38 <andythenorth> dunno if it's good 19:07:50 <frosch123> xmllint has a pretty-printer 19:08:03 <frosch123> but it probably only works for proper xml, not for templates and stuff 19:15:47 <andythenorth> I wrote some proper xml once 19:15:48 <andythenorth> in 2003 19:16:04 <TrueBrain> then you spend a year in a clinic recovering? :D 19:21:57 <andythenorth> I am more resilient than that 19:22:04 <andythenorth> I went home after 2 days and gave a speech 19:22:07 <FLHerne> Once I read an entire textbook on how to write proper XML, while on a plane to New York 19:22:21 <FLHerne> When I got home, I implemented the thing in not-XML :p 19:22:22 <andythenorth> I had an O'Reilly book about it 19:22:24 <andythenorth> very boring 19:33:59 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 19:55:50 *** gnu_jj_ has quit IRC 20:54:21 <frosch123> andythenorth: https://youtu.be/8kjRx8vo6y4?t=2620 <- how on topic :) 20:55:27 * andythenorth watches 20:56:02 <andythenorth> is this now just one of those settled issues? 20:56:22 <andythenorth> or will it run forever, like 'which editor' debate? 20:56:26 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 20:56:27 <frosch123> sometimes problems shift :) 20:56:52 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 20:56:58 <andythenorth> I long ago settled on automated validation of output 20:57:01 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 20:57:03 <andythenorth> despite initial opposition 20:57:47 <andythenorth> we have 2 rules for work code formatting 20:57:51 <andythenorth> 1. format how you think best 20:57:59 <andythenorth> 2. don't waste time arguing other people's formats 20:58:11 <andythenorth> 1 without 2 is a total train wreck 21:00:27 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:11:46 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:13:02 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 21:19:48 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:30:08 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:43:14 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 22:06:22 *** orudge has quit IRC 22:07:55 *** orudge has joined #openttd 22:33:01 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:53:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:42:09 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] spnda opened pull request #47: Change: Some minor layout and css improvements https://git.io/JUxep 23:44:58 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] spnda updated pull request #47: Change: Some minor layout and css improvements https://git.io/JUxep