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01:04:39 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:31:43 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/nml] FLHerne opened pull request #168: WIP: Various CodeQL fixes https://git.io/JTbA9 02:50:00 <supermop_Home> still not looking great 02:51:23 <FLHerne> The election, or my patches? :p 02:51:30 <FLHerne> (I think it's true of either) 03:01:56 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 03:50:39 *** debdog has joined #openttd 03:54:04 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 03:54:36 *** Greg_V has joined #openttd 04:32:15 <supermop_Home> ugh 05:54:00 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 06:11:48 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 06:22:21 *** longtomjr has joined #openttd 06:24:42 *** reldred has joined #openttd 06:31:08 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 06:32:03 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 07:06:42 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 07:43:39 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:00:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 08:37:14 *** arikover has joined #openttd 08:55:30 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 08:55:43 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 10:59:50 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] akoscomp opened issue #77: [hu_HU] Translator access request https://git.io/JTN6U 11:54:13 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 12:12:06 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 12:58:00 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:41:55 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 13:42:15 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 13:55:25 <supermop_Home> hello 14:07:04 <longtomjr> hi 14:10:59 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 commented on pull request #168: WIP: Various CodeQL fixes https://git.io/JTNpG 14:11:24 *** glx has joined #openttd 14:11:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 14:11:46 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #75: [cs_CZ] Translator access request https://git.io/JTdKf 14:12:59 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #77: [hu_HU] Translator access request https://git.io/JTN6U 14:13:26 <andythenorth> yo 14:14:05 <andythenorth> ships are such a pissy thing to add to the game 14:14:34 <TrueBrain> so .. don't! :P 14:14:55 <andythenorth> no! 14:15:03 <andythenorth> that's accepting defeat! 14:15:05 <andythenorth> we must win 14:15:21 <glx> TrueBrain: somehow the bot didn't see https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/76 14:15:38 <TrueBrain> "somehow" is easy, because it doesn't have the right label 14:15:45 <TrueBrain> I think one of the mobile apps doesn't do this correctly 14:16:02 <glx> oh so if I manually add it it's ok ? 14:16:03 <TrueBrain> you have 1 of 2 choices: ask the user to make a new ticket, this time with a real browser, or add the user manually to the right time and act like you are DorpsGek :) 14:16:15 <TrueBrain> time? team .. 14:16:43 <TrueBrain> it is always okay to do it manually; DorpsGek is just here to make life a bit easier and less repetitive :) 14:19:50 <TrueBrain> I btw thing more specific that it is the iOS app from GitHub, that is failing in to its job properly :) 14:27:08 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #76: [fr_FR] Translator access request https://git.io/JTbKi 14:27:08 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 closed issue #76: [fr_FR] Translator access request https://git.io/JTbKi 14:30:06 <TrueBrain> https://wiki.staging.openttd.org/File/en/OpenttdManual.png <- now tells you where images are being used :D 14:32:55 <TrueBrain> and I fixed many small bugs and other odds and ends 14:33:15 <TrueBrain> https://wiki.staging.openttd.org/Template/en/Table%20of%20contents.mediawiki <- also tells you on templates where it is being used 14:46:24 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/nml] FLHerne commented on pull request #168: WIP: Various CodeQL fixes https://git.io/JTAeN 14:53:51 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 14:55:46 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 15:15:02 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 15:21:38 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:54:08 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:37:24 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] glx22 commented on pull request #9: Fix various issues with MinGW build https://git.io/JTA3U 16:39:01 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:40:07 <andythenorth> beer tanker http://www.irishships.com/images/Photo%20Album/Guinness%20boats/Lady%20Patricia%20and%20Pilot%20boat%201992.JPG 16:43:44 <Eddi|zuHause> what makes that different from any other liquid? 16:45:04 <FLHerne> You get drunk if you drink it 16:45:26 <FLHerne> And if there's a shipwreck, all the whales get tipsy 16:45:27 <Eddi|zuHause> as opposed to killing you outright, you mean? 16:48:28 <FLHerne> I know road milk tankers are much harder to drive than fuel tankers 16:48:31 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause it's mostly regulatory :P 16:48:42 <FLHerne> Because they're not allowed to have slosh bulkheads, for easier cleaning 16:48:52 <FLHerne> But ship tanks are so big I doubt that's relevant 16:48:58 <andythenorth> oh is that why the rollover a lot FLHerne? 16:49:05 <FLHerne> Yes 16:49:06 <Eddi|zuHause> what's a slosh bulkhead? 16:49:13 <andythenorth> for Hog, most of the milk tanker photos I found were on their side 16:49:15 <FLHerne> A bulkhead to stop the contents sloshing 16:49:20 <andythenorth> due to newsworthy-ness 16:49:36 <andythenorth> road tanker slosh animations is a whole YouTube sub-genre 16:49:43 <andythenorth> things I learnt 16:51:19 *** arikover has quit IRC 16:51:33 *** arikover has joined #openttd 16:53:40 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:59:25 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 17:00:54 <TrueBrain> https://wiki.staging.openttd.org/File/es/OpenttdManual.png <- some people translated the text on the image :D 17:01:08 <TrueBrain> https://wiki.staging.openttd.org/File/it/OpenttdManual.png 17:01:10 <TrueBrain> etc :P 17:01:15 <TrueBrain> people are WEIRD 17:01:29 <TrueBrain> who does that :D 17:02:51 <andythenorth> that is a comprehensive i18n strategy 17:03:26 <TrueBrain> it is possibly the weirdest thing I have seen on our wiki :) 17:13:28 <frosch123> TrueBrain: i can beat that :p 17:14:22 <frosch123> TrueBrain: https://wiki.openttd.org/Szablon:-/Pl <- that page is in the pole position on my list 17:23:34 <TrueBrain> frosch123: lol ... poor people ... 17:24:12 <TrueBrain> I fixed that you cannot make pages in odd places .. folders are created otherwise automatically .. Files is nearly there .. 17:24:23 <frosch123> \o/ 17:24:25 <TrueBrain> main issue currently: you can make a page in File/ folder .. which should of course be: upload a file :P 17:24:28 <TrueBrain> but that is on the TODO 17:24:49 <TrueBrain> case-checking is not in there yet, neither is renaming .. something for tomorrow I think 17:25:22 <LordAro> just host it on a windows server, will do case checking for free! 17:25:22 <TrueBrain> I tried to make it so that if you link to a page of another language, that language is added in the title, so: "OpenTTD's Wiki (nl)", etc 17:25:42 <TrueBrain> LordAro: we have a Dutch saying for that: dusssssss 17:26:16 <TrueBrain> frosch123: I couldn't really find a nice way to tell people to make an issue/PR for folder renaming btw .. not sure where that should go honestly 17:26:53 <TrueBrain> maybe a help-section of some kind 17:27:42 <TrueBrain> Firefox insists I have a network portal active ... which I do not :P 17:27:45 <frosch123> TrueBrain: we need some wiki-dialect page. we accumulated some differences from mediawiki :) 17:28:02 <TrueBrain> we have wiki-pages for that, not? :D 17:28:11 <frosch123> i trashed them 17:28:17 <TrueBrain> :D 17:28:29 <TrueBrain> I was thinking of putting a link on the Edit page, which explains a thing or two 17:29:22 <TrueBrain> btw, really curious what performance is going to do if every file has a mediawiki attached to it .. 17:29:28 <frosch123> i am not sure what to put on ottd wiki pages, and what into md in truewiki 17:29:28 <TrueBrain> it doubles the amount of mediawiki files we will have :D 17:29:53 <frosch123> ok, i'll push File: today then :p 17:29:57 <TrueBrain> :D 17:30:10 <TrueBrain> fun other fact, you can transclude files there 17:30:24 <TrueBrain> so you could make a File which transcludes a Page which transcludes a Template ... it is really silly 17:32:42 <frosch123> let's hope we do not have to forward declare prototypes 17:44:12 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:44:39 *** glx has quit IRC 17:52:39 *** otetede has joined #openttd 17:57:36 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:07:48 *** otetede has quit IRC 18:11:59 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:13:48 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:31:13 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:48:45 <andythenorth> hmm 18:48:56 <andythenorth> if I work on 2 Horse rosters simultaneously 18:49:01 <andythenorth> but only plan to release one initially 18:49:04 <andythenorth> what % done is it? 18:57:13 <frosch123> TrueBrain: those stupid emoticon images have licenses in their File: texts 18:58:49 <TrueBrain> frosch123: is that a problem? 18:59:12 <TrueBrain> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324004491612618752 <- if it wasn't so sad, it would be funny .. 18:59:22 <frosch123> no, i just finally found an image where the text contained something noticeable 18:59:48 <TrueBrain> :D SOMETHING USEFUL FOUND! OWH NOOOOO :p 19:00:35 <TrueBrain> owh, right, "Random Page" on mediawiki gives you one from ANY language 19:00:39 <TrueBrain> I never understood that anti-feature 19:01:24 <frosch123> originally it was meant to be "delete random page" 19:02:56 <TrueBrain> but you are reviewing all those 4000+ file mediawiki files, or what? :P 19:11:20 <frosch123> only enough to train the script :) 19:11:32 <TrueBrain> :D 19:11:51 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:21:04 *** longtomjr has quit IRC 19:27:36 <frosch123> TrueBrain: https://wiki.openttd.org/Category:Translatable_files <- i guess that belongs to your image 19:28:12 <TrueBrain> sorry? My english translator fails on that sentence :( 19:28:49 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 19:45:38 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:47:04 <andythenorth> so...how many generations of ships 19:47:05 <andythenorth> ? 19:47:11 <supermop_Home> 0 19:47:12 <supermop_Home> ? 19:47:24 <andythenorth> I was thinking 2 19:47:31 <andythenorth> also is rice + vegetables valid for dinner? 19:47:42 <supermop_Home> what vegetables? 19:47:50 <Eddi|zuHause> generations over what timeframe? 19:48:14 <andythenorth> yes 19:48:15 <Eddi|zuHause> 1700-1900, 1900-1950, 1950-? 19:48:16 <supermop_Home> dugout canoes 19:48:17 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 19:48:31 <andythenorth> 1860-2050 19:48:45 <andythenorth> there have only been 4 evolutions in ship appearance in that time 19:48:50 <andythenorth> and I don't want to draw all of them 19:49:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i think they built sail ships until like 1920 or so 19:49:26 <andythenorth> they did, but I have ruled out sailing ships 19:49:28 <andythenorth> sails are hard 19:50:11 <Eddi|zuHause> you can do wheel-driven steam ships, but those would be river-only 19:50:20 <andythenorth> there were ocean going paddle steamers 19:50:24 <andythenorth> I have a plan for those.... 19:50:34 <andythenorth> the hull and structure in many cases were the same 19:50:43 <andythenorth> and ships were converted to/from screw/paddles 19:50:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd say one generation every 50 years-ish? 19:51:33 <andythenorth> I think that would be optimum 19:51:34 <Eddi|zuHause> that'd be 4 generations 19:51:36 <andythenorth> yes 19:51:49 <andythenorth> I would like to do that, but each ship takes 1 week to draw 19:52:33 <andythenorth> I am thinking 1860-1900 limited selection 19:52:39 <andythenorth> 1900-1970 full selection steam 19:52:46 <andythenorth> 1970-end full selection diesel 19:53:05 <andythenorth> that doesn't really account for LNG, hydrogen power, innovative hull shapes etc 19:53:25 <Eddi|zuHause> 1970 seems a tad late for diesel? 19:54:01 <andythenorth> it's late to new-build steam yes 19:54:12 <andythenorth> 1940 would be better from an IRL perspective 19:54:35 <andythenorth> hmm the appearance of 1940 steam / diesel is identical except funnel details 19:54:36 <andythenorth> and smoke 19:54:49 <andythenorth> maybe I could transition the power type without changing anything else 19:55:14 <Eddi|zuHause> could settle for 1950-ish 19:55:27 <andythenorth> supermop_Home carrots, black kale, beans, rice? 19:55:32 <andythenorth> no meat or cheese 19:55:35 <Eddi|zuHause> and have 2000+ variants as "stretch goal" :) 19:55:47 <Eddi|zuHause> in case you're ever bored :p 19:55:59 <andythenorth> well yes 20:34:51 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:57:11 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 21:03:22 *** glx has joined #openttd 21:03:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 21:07:16 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:16:07 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 21:16:19 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 21:18:19 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 21:18:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 21:25:12 *** tokai has quit IRC 21:36:38 <frosch123> TrueBrain: pushed the result of today 21:36:54 <frosch123> all File:*mediawiki are new 21:37:04 <frosch123> Page transclusions are still missing 21:37:30 <frosch123> i trashed some more categories 21:37:52 <frosch123> and tried to magically sort templates/categories/files into folders like the pages 21:38:04 <frosch123> works in a lot of cases, but not all 21:44:33 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 21:44:55 <TrueBrain> frosch123: cool; will benchmark tomorrow what the impact is on the server :D 21:46:01 <TrueBrain> well, I can take a quick look ofc :D 21:46:08 <TrueBrain> memory consumption is up, no surprise :P 21:46:22 <TrueBrain> 60MB instead of 55MB :P 21:47:23 <TrueBrain> hmm ... an exception when loading 21:47:38 <TrueBrain> it cannot find a file ... which is a bit odd :D 21:48:37 <TrueBrain> ah .. a file that has been moved .. hmm 21:48:38 <TrueBrain> interesting 21:49:02 <frosch123> most files have been moved :p 21:49:15 <TrueBrain> issue with my caching 21:49:26 <TrueBrain> it has a page as dependency, it tries to invalidate it,but OWH NO, IT IS NOT THERE :D 21:49:33 <frosch123> btw. "/Folder" without trailing / gives 500 21:50:17 <TrueBrain> hmm .. why is Sentry not picking it up when I do that on staging .. 21:50:25 <TrueBrain> ah, just slow 21:50:47 <TrueBrain> k, got the traceback, will fix :) 21:51:23 <frosch123> i edited the url manually, there was no link to that url 21:51:36 <TrueBrain> no [[Translation]] in File mediawikis? 21:52:30 <TrueBrain> no, seems there are none; I expected a few :) 21:52:50 <TrueBrain> okay, total RAM went up from 55 to 70, with these extra pages, which is all because of the metadata cache :) 21:52:54 <TrueBrain> not aweful 21:54:21 <TrueBrain> okay, otherwise this seems to work just fine :D Sweet .. mostly missing the translation tag 21:54:52 <TrueBrain> nice folder structure :) 21:55:50 <TrueBrain> you btw can't have a file called "Main Page" (as that is the index marker) 21:56:37 <frosch123> luckily there is none :) 21:57:24 <TrueBrain> but the translation, bug on your side, bug on my side? 21:57:43 <frosch123> but on my side 21:58:03 <TrueBrain> k :) 21:58:13 <TrueBrain> hmm ... folders in File don't list anything, that needs fixing 21:58:16 <TrueBrain> but not today :) 21:58:30 <TrueBrain> found some other bugs, will fix them up and deploy tomorrow to staging :D 21:58:41 <frosch123> the folders worked for me 21:58:41 <TrueBrain> means we also have working files \o/ 21:58:50 <frosch123> missing indexing on your side? 21:59:11 <TrueBrain> http://127.0.0.1:8000/File/en/Manual/Intro%20screen.png <- won't work for you, but you get the idea: you can click on the breadcrumb there for Manual 21:59:16 <TrueBrain> which leads to http://127.0.0.1:8000/File/en/Manual/ 21:59:20 <TrueBrain> which does not list the folder 21:59:25 <TrueBrain> (it tries to load Main Page, which does not exist) 21:59:35 <TrueBrain> it does work for http://127.0.0.1:8000/File/en/ 21:59:47 <TrueBrain> and if you click on Manual there, you end up http://127.0.0.1:8000/Folder/File/en/Manual/ (it now has /Folder in the URL) 21:59:54 <TrueBrain> minor boo-boo on my side :) 22:00:15 <TrueBrain> dir-listing is really fast, I am happy with that. I was a bit afraid it would be slow with this many files, but it is fine 22:00:40 <TrueBrain> sweet :) This slowly is getting together :D 22:02:14 <frosch123> TrueBrain: haha, 127.0.0.1:8000 works for me :p 22:03:03 <frosch123> i had to check whether i cleaned the most obvious blood after moving all files 22:03:30 <TrueBrain> :D 22:05:45 <frosch123> i pushed the file translations 22:05:50 <TrueBrain> that is quick 22:06:09 <frosch123> either it does not work, or the indexer did not notice it 22:06:42 <frosch123> http://127.0.0.1:8000/File/en/Manual/ShowVehicleSpeed.png <- if you need an example 22:07:09 *** tyteen4a03 has quit IRC 22:07:31 <TrueBrain> works fine for me ...... after you add 3 lines of code :P 22:07:39 <TrueBrain> File namespace didn't render a language bar yet :) 22:08:00 <TrueBrain> sometimes I really surprise myself ... it "just works" :o 22:08:11 <TrueBrain> I think I found the correct balance of abstraction with namespaces :) 22:09:25 <TrueBrain> that image you gave, is a bit odd, as in: 22:09:37 <TrueBrain> in your export there is also the It language, which is nice 22:09:42 <TrueBrain> but on the current wiki there is also a de version 22:10:18 <TrueBrain> ah, not on any page 22:10:23 <TrueBrain> I guess that is why 22:10:41 <frosch123> ah, yes, translate an image, and then don't use it :) 22:10:51 <TrueBrain> cool, this works \o/ 22:11:07 <TrueBrain> have some fixing to do, but nothing spectacular :) 22:11:14 <TrueBrain> guess tomorrow I will also try to allow file uploads :D 22:12:14 *** tyteen4a03 has joined #openttd 22:13:06 <TrueBrain> nice work frosch123 , seriously.. nice work :D 22:13:22 <TrueBrain> Who would have seen this coming ... from migrating to new software to restructuring and cleaning out the bullshit :D 22:13:37 <TrueBrain> soon our wiki will be (slightly more) USEFUL :D 22:13:44 <TrueBrain> and frosch123 now knows every page .. so yeah :P 22:13:50 <TrueBrain> and now, zzzzz 22:14:18 <frosch123> yep, night :) 22:14:32 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:17:36 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 22:17:53 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:17:58 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 22:24:14 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:40:30 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:55:48 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:59:31 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 23:09:57 *** gelignite has quit IRC 23:18:09 *** arikover has quit IRC 23:18:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:27:09 *** moll has quit IRC 23:45:49 *** moll has joined #openttd