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00:05:13 *** ZirconiumY has joined #openttd 00:06:23 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 00:08:08 *** Artea has quit IRC 00:08:28 *** Artea has joined #openttd 00:39:44 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:00:56 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] extrazi closed issue #91: [pl_PL] Translator access request https://git.io/JklYx 02:00:56 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] extrazi commented on issue #91: [pl_PL] Translator access request https://git.io/JklYx 02:09:38 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 02:25:59 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttd 02:58:59 *** urdh has quit IRC 03:32:31 *** glx has quit IRC 03:44:36 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 04:45:44 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 04:47:04 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 05:10:42 *** heffer has quit IRC 05:11:38 *** heffer has joined #openttd 06:49:29 *** longtomjr has joined #openttd 07:04:45 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 07:11:59 *** urdh has joined #openttd 07:32:55 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:55:57 *** heffer has quit IRC 07:56:36 *** heffer has joined #openttd 08:05:59 *** heffer has quit IRC 08:06:41 *** heffer has joined #openttd 08:35:00 *** heffer has quit IRC 08:35:22 *** heffer has joined #openttd 08:40:27 <andythenorth> yo 08:40:39 <longtomjr> hi 09:14:54 *** heffer has quit IRC 09:15:32 *** heffer has joined #openttd 09:16:59 <TrueBrain> LordAro: so you let me reboot something without know what you changed ... that sounds like a disaster waiting to happen :P But sure :D 09:17:12 <TrueBrain> and we are not going to rent an extra VPS for staging, sorry :P 09:19:38 <LordAro> TrueBrain: i copied the OVH stuff into /etc/network/interfaces.d/60-ipv6 and filled in the values, if you feel like taking a look 09:19:52 <LordAro> i do get that, it just makes things more complicated :p 09:21:50 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest6197 09:21:52 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd 09:21:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek 09:26:45 *** michi_cc_ has joined #openttd 09:26:45 *** michi_cc has quit IRC 09:30:26 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] TrueBrain requested changes for pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkBdc 09:30:57 <TrueBrain> I think you made it look more complicated by not templating all you could, basically :) 09:31:42 <TrueBrain> but mostly, you blocked me out from logging in, so I cannot test IPv6 :P 09:32:02 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #8342: Feature #8095: Allow automatically separating vehicles in shared orders https://git.io/JkBdj 09:32:15 <LordAro> TrueBrain: heh 09:33:07 <TrueBrain> at least I now know you indeed cannot login via password :P :D \o/ 09:33:53 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkBF4 09:36:26 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] TrueBrain commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkBFF 09:37:26 <TrueBrain> https://github.com/truebrain.keys <- okay, this is a cool feature of GitHub .. another way to easily distribute your public key :) 09:38:56 <LordAro> TrueBrain: ansible also supports that "format" too 09:39:09 <LordAro> i.e. just using a url 09:39:19 <TrueBrain> funny; but let's not use that in this case :D 09:39:26 <TrueBrain> not sure I like the security aspect of that, honestly :P 09:39:58 <LordAro> mm 09:40:07 <TrueBrain> (as that means if my account is taken over, one can publish a new key there, and on a new ansible run, it would change that, without anyone really noticing :P) 09:40:20 <LordAro> you should have access again now 09:40:23 <TrueBrain> \o/ 09:40:39 <TrueBrain> and indeed I do :P 09:40:58 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro updated pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkCEU 09:41:23 <TrueBrain> my key is longer than yours :P 09:43:24 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro updated pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkCEU 09:43:29 <LordAro> yeah, my key is very old 09:43:38 <LordAro> these days i tend to use ed25519 everywhere 09:43:48 <TrueBrain> okay, this IPv6 config is not going to work :P 09:43:52 <LordAro> aw 09:43:57 <TrueBrain> not sure where you confused IPV6_GATEWAY I gave you with ::1 :P 09:44:18 <TrueBrain> seems we don't talk the same IPv6 language :D 09:44:22 <LordAro> 18:27:43] <TrueBrain> the gateway is at ::1 09:44:29 <LordAro> i did think it odd 09:44:30 <TrueBrain> what we mean with: the gateway is on ::1, not that it is on the literal string ::1 09:44:36 <TrueBrain> but on the <ipv6>::1 :) 09:44:51 <TrueBrain> ugh, this vim has a stupid copy/paste mode 09:44:54 <TrueBrain> I cannot deal with that .... 09:44:54 <LordAro> that does make more sense 09:45:13 <longtomjr> What is wrong with the copy paste? 09:45:23 <TrueBrain> well, especially as ::1 is localhost LordAro 09:45:46 <LordAro> well, quite 09:46:07 <LordAro> but given the IPv4 address is apparently done via dhcp, i clearly don't understand how this networking is set up 09:46:47 <TrueBrain> you consider it odd that the IPv4 is via DHCP, or? 09:47:08 <LordAro> i would expect servers to have static(ly defined) IPs 09:48:16 <TrueBrain> I guess it is easier for them to provision this way 09:48:43 <TrueBrain> owh, it is cloud-init 09:49:33 <TrueBrain> in that case I don't know why they don't provision IPv6 honestly 09:53:13 <TrueBrain> LordAro: -1 is done, but I want to reboot to validate it keeps on working; that okay with you? 09:54:20 <LordAro> sure 09:54:38 <LordAro> i should do actual work now 09:54:42 <TrueBrain> enjoy :P 09:55:11 <TrueBrain> okay, IPv6 comes back up correctly 09:55:16 <TrueBrain> just nginx doesn't bind to it now 09:56:01 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] TrueBrain commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkBN9 09:56:11 <LordAro> ah yes, on it 09:56:17 <TrueBrain> <3 09:58:45 <TrueBrain> should we enable a firewall on these machines, I wonder .. 09:59:28 <LordAro> ah crap, this ansible role can't do multiple listen directives 09:59:38 <TrueBrain> you can change it how I suggested 09:59:42 <TrueBrain> that works for both IPv4 and IPv6 09:59:45 <TrueBrain> nginx is dualstack 10:00:01 <TrueBrain> ::ffff:<ipv4> works fine on IPv6 :) 10:00:06 <LordAro> i was looking at that, some documentation suggested that wouldn't work 10:00:12 <LordAro> but i'll happily try it 10:00:42 <TrueBrain> I can be wrong, ofc :) 10:00:54 <TrueBrain> can I reboot -2 real quick? 10:00:57 <LordAro> https://serverfault.com/questions/638367/do-you-need-separate-ipv4-and-ipv6-listen-directives-in-nginx specifically 10:01:06 <LordAro> 1 sec to complete ansible run 10:02:14 <TrueBrain> owh, so they changed defaults .. shrug 10:02:20 <LordAro> yup, doesn't work 10:02:44 <LordAro> i'll try with ipv6_only=off, but that'll probably have the other issues suggested 10:03:00 <TrueBrain> silly ... dualstack is very useful 10:03:03 <TrueBrain> I reboot -2 real quick now :) 10:03:28 <TrueBrain> I don't like molly-guard .. it doesn't say: okay, I will reboot now 10:03:31 <TrueBrain> it just stops 10:03:33 <TrueBrain> that is annoying 10:03:51 <TrueBrain> right, -2 rebooted 10:03:54 <dwfreed> I mean, it would say if you failed the test 10:03:56 <TrueBrain> both now also have IPv6 10:04:06 <TrueBrain> yeah, but only negative feedback is poor design :) 10:04:24 <TrueBrain> your connection just stalls .. which is annoying :P 10:04:36 <TrueBrain> for all you know, you have a network outage JUST AT THAT MOMENT :P 10:06:43 <TrueBrain> LordAro: seems people have been trying to get IPv6 in the nginx role for a while now .. 10:06:49 <TrueBrain> there is even a PR for it :P 10:07:10 <TrueBrain> but all of them went stale .. 10:07:22 <TrueBrain> because the owner doesn't reply, not because of the authors :P 10:07:28 <LordAro> yeah... 10:07:38 <LordAro> geerlingguy is a very busy person 10:07:43 <LordAro> he has hundreds of ansible roles 10:07:54 <TrueBrain> not an excuse, really 10:08:01 <TrueBrain> for that you have a community .. start to delegate :) 10:08:07 <TrueBrain> but 2 years of no response ...... :P 10:08:18 <TrueBrain> it is not a new issue, lets put it that way :) 10:08:39 <TrueBrain> Sep 5, 2017 10:08:41 <TrueBrain> wait, 3 years :) 10:09:06 <LordAro> there is a response from him about 6 months ago 10:09:10 <LordAro> but then... nothing 10:09:36 <TrueBrain> and I get it, listening by default to IPv6 is a huge change 10:09:44 <TrueBrain> so the PR dude should have made it optional, off by default, tbh 10:10:19 <TrueBrain> seems you have to clone and change the role after all :P 10:10:42 <LordAro> there is an "official" nginx role that i couldn't make any sense of at first glance 10:10:49 <LordAro> i could go back and look at that 10:11:00 <LordAro> in the meantime, i've come up with a hack... 10:11:04 <TrueBrain> :D 10:11:51 <LordAro> aha, yes 10:13:02 <LordAro> /etc/hosts just got changed again, did you change something? 10:13:11 <TrueBrain> a reboot 10:13:20 <TrueBrain> and I think /etc/hosts is under control of cloud-init 10:13:28 <LordAro> ah yeah, probably 10:13:47 <TrueBrain> which is a bit of a problem, if you want to change it, honestly 10:13:57 <TrueBrain> but I am not sure why you wanted to change it :P 10:14:20 <LordAro> tbh i'm not sure either 10:14:27 <TrueBrain> so that solves that problem :D 10:14:29 <LordAro> given we're not changing the actual hostname of the machine, it doesn't really matter 10:14:59 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro updated pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkCEU 10:15:32 <TrueBrain> I like that solution; it is what I would have done too :P 10:15:38 <LordAro> :D 10:16:38 <LordAro> right, actual actual work time now 10:16:46 <TrueBrain> enjoy 10:18:18 <TrueBrain> okay, the different caches work (as the links I gave differ SLIGHTLY :P) 10:18:42 <TrueBrain> staging/production work 10:18:45 <TrueBrain> IPv4 / IPv6 work 10:18:47 <TrueBrain> -1 and -2 work 10:19:09 <TrueBrain> cache hits work 10:20:43 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] TrueBrain commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkBp3 10:23:35 <LordAro> \o/ 10:24:48 <TrueBrain> if someone reviews my PR before the weekend, I will see about deploying this to staging so we can test it :D 10:28:01 *** tokai has joined #openttd 10:28:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 10:34:55 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 11:24:07 <andythenorth> I need some lolz 11:24:15 <andythenorth> pls send 11:25:10 *** matt21347 has joined #openttd 11:27:40 <LordAro> andythenorth: lols 11:29:07 <andythenorth> ta 11:31:25 <TrueBrain> http://img.memecdn.com/lolz_o_669433.jpg 11:31:57 <andythenorth> funny, that looks just like me 11:35:25 *** Samu has joined #openttd 11:55:17 <Eddi|zuHause> lots of jpeg-rot and watermarks? 12:15:14 *** longtomjr has quit IRC 12:19:24 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 12:19:37 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 12:26:28 *** Samu has quit IRC 12:41:13 *** qwer has joined #openttd 12:45:13 *** longtomjr has joined #openttd 13:21:58 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 13:27:10 *** qwer has quit IRC 13:37:31 <TrueBrain> frosch123: seems our favorite wiki editor found his way there :) 13:37:54 <andythenorth> dorpsgek will announce every wiki edit? 13:38:07 <frosch123> TrueBrain: yes, i send them a mail the other day, where their stuff ended up 13:38:28 <frosch123> andythenorth: if it would, that would have ended last night 13:39:02 <TrueBrain> yeah ... it was spammy :P 13:47:46 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 13:53:33 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] twpol updated pull request #8342: Feature #8095: Allow automatically separating vehicles in shared orders https://git.io/JklGO 13:57:09 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] twpol commented on pull request #8342: Feature #8095: Allow automatically separating vehicles in shared orders https://git.io/JkREv 14:11:45 *** rptr_ has joined #openttd 14:17:43 <frosch123> oh, bananas is older than ottd's ldap 14:36:09 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:43:55 <TrueBrain> sorry? 14:44:15 <TrueBrain> feels like a completely random finding :P 14:45:49 <frosch123> in anticipation of you shutting down ldap, i exported the necessary data for bananas author migration. but 21 bananas authors are not in ldap, because they were only active in the first months of the bananas era 14:47:10 <frosch123> more weird is that i recognise 3 names of those 21 14:48:09 <frosch123> can you imagine being so annoying for a few months, that you are still recognised 10 years later? 14:51:06 <TrueBrain> haha :D 14:51:13 <TrueBrain> and yes, BaNaNaS lived very briefly without ldap :) 14:51:31 <TrueBrain> and good, you did that already, means I don't have to :) Sweet! 14:56:02 *** longtomjr has quit IRC 15:00:54 *** longtomjr has joined #openttd 15:18:56 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 15:22:44 *** mirrorb2rd has joined #openttd 15:24:56 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:29:14 *** rptr_ has quit IRC 15:47:48 *** longtomjr has quit IRC 15:53:53 *** longtomjr has joined #openttd 16:31:37 *** rptr_ has joined #openttd 16:37:44 *** mirrorb2rd has quit IRC 17:08:06 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:20:21 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:48:07 <andythenorth> what day is it now? 17:50:37 <frosch123> it's the 5th day of truewiki 17:51:59 <andythenorth> nice epoch 17:56:16 <LordAro> March 262nd 17:56:19 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:00:42 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest6234 18:00:44 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:07:09 <Wolf01> The frequency of network drivers updates for my system is alarming... like once a week I get disconnected like this time without warning... what if I'm on a conference call? 18:07:20 *** Guest6234 has quit IRC 18:08:41 <frosch123> good excuse to leave it? 18:09:20 <Wolf01> At least tell me to install at the next reboot 18:10:18 <Wolf01> Updating to 20H2... now I have to reboot 18:13:58 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:17:00 <Wolf01> BBL 18:17:03 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 18:19:05 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:19:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:20:45 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:22:43 <Wolf01> Let's see which new crashes they added with this update 18:23:35 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 18:35:35 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 18:36:01 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 18:40:10 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:41:35 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:55:09 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 18:55:13 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 19:14:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 19:16:39 *** longtomjr has quit IRC 19:17:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 19:22:32 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/Jk0qs 19:22:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 19:39:32 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TinCanTech commented on issue #8339: [Question] Rate limit password entry for multiplayer https://git.io/JkTYo 19:45:34 *** heffer has quit IRC 19:46:00 <Wolf01> Too much quiet 19:46:11 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 19:46:15 *** heffer has joined #openttd 19:46:21 <Wolf01> Is andythenorth plotting something? 19:53:00 <frosch123> plotters only have a few colours 19:53:11 <frosch123> don't think andy can draw cc with them 19:56:20 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 19:56:49 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 20:06:32 <andythenorth> I am plotting nothing 20:06:34 *** rptr_ has quit IRC 20:06:38 <andythenorth> I have fallen in a motivation hole :P 20:06:59 <Wolf01> Welcome to my life 20:07:58 <Wolf01> I'm on the event horizon of a motivation black hole since I was born 20:07:58 *** heffer has quit IRC 20:08:03 <andythenorth> I thought I was implementing something cool, which was fun 20:08:16 <andythenorth> but it turns out to be nearly-cool-but-just-not 20:08:52 <andythenorth> TL;DR offering players choices via newgrf parameter is stupid, but I remembered that too late 20:09:10 <andythenorth> now I am 80% into completing my idea, but I am demotivated because it's pointless 20:09:20 <andythenorth> pls send more lolz 20:09:51 <Wolf01> It's not stupid, it's just not well designed 20:10:05 <andythenorth> _most_ players won't be able to use it 20:10:17 <andythenorth> because I forgot, most players can't change parameters in game 20:10:34 <Wolf01> But you satisfy the ones which can and want to use it 20:10:38 <andythenorth> I don't mind designing features just for me, but it's not that kind of feature 20:11:56 *** heffer has joined #openttd 20:13:18 <Wolf01> I usually don't do stuff to be liked from others, I do what I need and in the way I would use it... then if others like it too, well... nice 20:14:04 <Wolf01> Job is the opposite: I do things I won't even use and in the most complicate way my boss could think 20:15:01 <Wolf01> So I might get annoyed doing things I would like to do better 20:20:51 <andythenorth> I have replaced 2 broken lightbulbs 20:20:55 * andythenorth happy again 20:20:58 <andythenorth> goals achieved 20:21:31 <Wolf01> My current goal is to live to the weekend 20:29:16 <andythenorth> well make sure you do 20:30:18 <Wolf01> I do the bare minimum 21:01:07 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:11:11 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 21:15:32 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 21:15:42 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 21:49:50 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:49:50 *** heffer has quit IRC 21:53:37 *** heffer has joined #openttd 22:20:57 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:22:54 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:36:31 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:50:10 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:57:58 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:13:29 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:15:19 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 23:16:54 *** Artea has quit IRC 23:20:32 *** Artea has joined #openttd 23:28:53 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TinCanTech commented on issue #8034: Text in cheat menu window is excessively dramatic https://git.io/Jvrdw 23:37:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 23:40:30 *** matt21347 has quit IRC