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00:00:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] spnda commented on issue #8814: Assertion failed downloading content from BaNaNaS. https://git.io/JqTdZ 00:01:02 <glx> ok my vcpkg seems up to date, only boost would be rebuilt on upgrade 00:04:06 <glx> no issue with debug build 00:12:49 <glx> ah but I'm on VS 16.8.5 while 16.9.0 is available 00:14:52 *** spnda has quit IRC 00:25:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened pull request #8815: Fix #8809: Crash when removing airport when hangar window open https://git.io/JqTbt 00:33:12 *** gelignite has quit IRC 00:33:41 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 00:36:47 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:46:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc opened pull request #8816: Add: GUI option to select video driver. https://git.io/JqTba 00:47:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #8816: Add: GUI option to select video driver. https://git.io/JqTbw 00:56:11 *** glx has quit IRC 00:57:53 *** Venemo has quit IRC 01:10:48 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 01:20:29 *** gelignite has quit IRC 01:36:47 *** didac has joined #openttd 02:22:25 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:31:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] TheStormkeeper opened issue #155: [ga_IE] Translator access request https://git.io/JqTph 02:47:44 *** didac has quit IRC 03:15:26 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 03:59:41 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 04:03:01 *** debdog has quit IRC 04:12:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 05:10:23 *** Wuzzy has quit IRC 06:01:56 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 06:22:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Azusa257 opened issue #8817: "Place Objects" menu sorts objects alphabetically even when there are no filter string provided. https://git.io/JqkJ5 07:48:05 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:48:40 <andythenorth> yo 07:54:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #8815: Fix #8809: Crash when removing airport when hangar window open https://git.io/JqkkS 07:55:17 <LordAro> o/ 08:13:55 *** Progman has joined #openttd 08:25:38 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 08:45:43 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 08:54:19 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 08:54:33 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 09:09:38 <andythenorth> what shall we do today? 09:09:51 <Wolf01> Bed 09:28:00 <Wolf01> When OpenTTD on Nintendo Switch? 09:28:19 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 09:28:55 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 09:31:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #154: [pl_PL] Translator access request https://git.io/JqTFO 09:32:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #155: [ga_IE] Translator access request https://git.io/JqTph 09:50:08 <peter1138> Step 1. Cup of tea. 09:51:05 <SpComb> ISO 3103 standard cup of tea, or something more suitable for your personal tastes? 09:53:36 <peter1138> Well I'm not drinking it from a bowl. 10:06:01 <andythenorth> ebaying things takes time eh 10:06:09 <andythenorth> wonder what the hourly rate I'm earning on that is :P 10:06:30 <andythenorth> but also, can't just put trains or playmobil in the bin eh 10:06:58 <andythenorth> Wolf01 I am going to sell about 50% of the Lego I have, opinions on this? 10:07:05 <andythenorth> it just fills cupboard space 10:08:34 <Wolf01> andythenorth: Try to sell complete sets, you should be able to get a bit more than selling by weight 10:08:40 <andythenorth> Yes 10:08:48 <andythenorth> they are mostly assembled 10:08:54 <andythenorth> bits have fallen off, like wing mirrors 10:09:00 <andythenorth> but probably 95% complete 10:09:07 <andythenorth> I have all paper instructions also 10:09:30 <andythenorth> I have probably 15KG of loose parts as well, including craploads of pneumatics and similar 10:11:15 <Wolf01> TBH I wouldn't sell anything, disassemble everything and store them in a box for future use 10:11:39 <TrueBrain> michi_cc: that is really cool of you, to make both variants in a PR :D I will look at both tomorrow 10:11:53 <TrueBrain> and I guess in the future we should add code that detects if OpenGL / Accelerated hardware is available 10:11:57 <Wolf01> (I can't even enter on my room because is filled with lego boxes :P ) 10:12:00 <TrueBrain> might be a bit misleading now, that you select it, but don't get it :) 10:16:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #8816: Add: GUI option to select video driver. https://git.io/JqkOl 10:19:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #8812: Add: Option to (dis-)allow accelerated video drivers. https://git.io/JqkOE 10:24:01 <TrueBrain> it is nice that WSL2 doesn't have OpenGL for these moments :P 10:26:19 <peter1138> Accelerated: May run slower. :/ 10:26:47 <Wolf01> It's like the turbo button on old PCs 10:42:10 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 10:44:49 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 10:45:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #8816: Add: GUI option to select video driver. https://git.io/Jqk3G 10:45:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #8812: Add: Option to (dis-)allow accelerated video drivers. https://git.io/Jqk3Z 10:46:48 <TrueBrain> I understand your tradeoff there michi_cc :) 10:50:46 <michi_cc> Ideally, we'd simply have runtime switching of video drivers. It's a bit complicated though, as the user interaction happens inside the game loop running in the current video driver :) 10:51:09 <TrueBrain> a "keep your changes" approach? 10:51:17 <TrueBrain> try to switch, if fails, switch back, tell the user? 10:51:22 <michi_cc> Yeah 10:51:59 <TrueBrain> I don't like it btw that if you set a video-driver in the config, it just refuses to start when it cannot load it 10:52:08 <TrueBrain> not really user-friendly :D 10:53:33 <TrueBrain> anyway, for 1.11, I guess your first PR at least solves the problem good-enough for now 10:53:48 <TrueBrain> even without indication if it is really loaded or not 10:54:53 <TrueBrain> as I doubt we can tackle the runtime switching easily :P 10:55:29 <TrueBrain> yet-another-global-variable to indicate it should switch or something? And add destroy-routines for all video-drivers too I guess 11:06:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 11:07:44 <michi_cc> All video drivers have Stop routines. No idea if reload works in all cases though, e.g. for SDL which has global state itself. 11:08:32 <TrueBrain> hmm, you are right, there is a Stop routine .. did not know :D 11:08:45 <TrueBrain> it just doesn't reset globals 11:08:56 <TrueBrain> so a Start will not create a new window in the case of SDL :P 11:09:17 <TrueBrain> Win32 at least destroys the window .. so it might just be a bit of variable management to get that to work 11:10:19 <michi_cc> Win32 should work as there's no real OS global state (just like for macOS). SDL has global state, and no idea at all about Allegro. 11:10:40 <TrueBrain> you want to dtor the driver instance? 11:11:02 <TrueBrain> or what do you mean with "global state"? 11:11:29 <michi_cc> The SDL lib has global state itself, in addition to our state. 11:11:48 <TrueBrain> SDL is pretty good at handling that, honestly 11:11:56 <TrueBrain> I think that the current Stop() is enough to do a Start() again 11:12:20 <TrueBrain> more an issue is this: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/blob/master/src/video/sdl2_default_v.cpp#L38 <- these are not reset when Stop() is called 11:15:03 <TrueBrain> but other than that, it might "just work" 11:17:13 <TrueBrain> SDL even destroys the windows correctly, if I can believe the source 11:26:42 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 11:40:31 *** argoneus has quit IRC 11:45:12 <TrueBrain> meh, analyzing wireless signals is annoying .. most tools are a bit crappy to use :P 11:47:51 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 11:54:04 *** argoneus has joined #openttd 12:00:46 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 12:06:02 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 12:07:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 12:21:27 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 12:23:57 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 12:29:06 <peter1138> Damn, I might need to supermarket :( 12:30:09 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 12:30:31 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 13:12:44 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 13:52:20 <TrueBrain> w00p, I can somewhat read my temp-sensors via 433 .. no clue what most of the bytes in the packet mean, but I can see temperatures, so I am fine :P 13:57:23 *** glx has joined #openttd 13:57:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 14:01:35 *** Gustavo6046_ has joined #openttd 14:09:36 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 14:09:36 *** Gustavo6046_ is now known as Gustavo6046 14:54:29 <Eddi|zuHause> supermarket on a sunday? you're obviously not in germany 15:02:55 <peter1138> I think that was known.. 15:03:58 <Eddi|zuHause> dunno, maybe you moved to avoid brexit or something :p 15:06:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 15:36:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] J0anJosep commented on pull request #8556: Feature: Allow diagonal tracks on level crossings https://git.io/JqkEN 15:46:34 *** Wuzzy has joined #openttd 15:59:37 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:02:13 <Gustavo6046> Hii! :) 16:03:07 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 16:10:10 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 16:15:11 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 16:54:14 <Wolf01> New phone, yay, now I hate android even more 16:55:17 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:59:03 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:05:56 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:10:48 <Wolf01> https://www.engadget.com/icloud-true-last-name-lock-out-192224309.html WHAT? Lol 17:12:18 *** Samu has joined #openttd 17:15:49 <andythenorth> that's lolz 17:19:15 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 17:59:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #8815: Fix #8809: Crash when removing airport when hangar window open https://git.io/JqTbt 17:59:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #8809: Crash/assertion failure when removing airport when hangar window open https://git.io/JqTCW 18:02:29 *** didac has joined #openttd 18:03:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac commented on issue #8817: "Place Objects" menu sorts objects alphabetically even when there are no filter string provided. https://git.io/JqkJ5 18:05:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac commented on pull request #8706: Feature: rail station class name filtering https://git.io/JqkKU 18:21:52 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 18:30:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac opened pull request #8818: Fix: keep NewGRF order for object class sorting https://git.io/Jqk6R 18:33:47 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 18:36:14 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 18:38:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac dismissed a review for pull request #8706: Feature: rail station class name filtering https://git.io/JqToP 18:38:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac updated pull request #8706: Feature: rail station class name filtering https://git.io/Jt9ev 18:39:28 <TrueBrain> always nice, if people say: I broke it, I fix it 18:39:30 <TrueBrain> I like that :) 18:40:31 <Wolf01> Didn't somebody suggest to change the ufo disaster to cat disaster? https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aV73dgM_460swp.webp 18:41:09 <LordAro> probably andy 18:41:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac updated pull request #8818: Fix: keep NewGRF order for object class sorting https://git.io/Jqk6R 18:42:12 <didac> my pleasure :) 18:43:10 <didac> I normally force push to keep a single commit per PR, is this an OK practice? 18:43:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 commented on issue #27: Grab translations https://git.io/Jqf1I 18:43:32 <LordAro> perfectly acceptable 18:43:53 <FLHerne> Wolf01: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-VcsLJozxA 18:45:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac commented on issue #8817: "Place Objects" menu sorts objects alphabetically even when there are no filter string provided. https://git.io/JqkJ5 18:45:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] LordAro commented on pull request #29: Add 6 translations, fix Finnish header https://git.io/Jqkis 18:45:55 <didac> neat 18:46:12 <LordAro> unless of course, it shouldn't be a single commit ;) 18:49:26 *** didac has quit IRC 18:50:54 *** didac has joined #openttd 19:02:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JqkPJ 19:02:20 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 19:16:06 <Wolf01> FLHerne :D 19:19:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone commented on pull request #8818: Fix: keep NewGRF order for object class sorting https://git.io/JqkXU 19:25:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone commented on pull request #8706: Feature: rail station class name filtering https://git.io/JqkXr 19:41:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 updated pull request #29: Add 6 translations, fix Finnish header https://git.io/JqTPh 19:43:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 updated pull request #29: Add 6 translations, fix Finnish header https://git.io/JqTPh 19:46:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 updated pull request #29: Add 6 translations, fix Finnish header https://git.io/JqTPh 19:47:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] Wuzzy2 commented on pull request #29: Add 6 translations, fix Finnish header https://git.io/Jqk16 19:52:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] LordAro approved pull request #29: Add 6 translations, fix Finnish header https://git.io/Jqk15 20:30:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac commented on pull request #8706: Feature: rail station class name filtering https://git.io/JqkD9 20:32:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac commented on pull request #8818: Fix: keep NewGRF order for object class sorting https://git.io/JqkDb 20:54:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone commented on pull request #8818: Fix: keep NewGRF order for object class sorting https://git.io/JqkSc 21:05:52 * andythenorth has been very quiet recently 21:06:48 <frosch123> i ordered a new webcam today 21:06:53 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 21:07:51 <andythenorth> for next livestream? :) 21:08:02 <frosch123> that's the only purpose 21:09:19 <frosch123> whoever packages my order may wonder who orders a motherboard+cpu+memory-set with a webcam :p 21:10:52 <andythenorth> :) 21:15:15 <Sacro> frosch123: someone setting up an onlyfans? 21:16:05 <TrueBrain> I read rumors that andythenorth was setting up the livestream this month .. curious who he invites :D 21:16:08 <frosch123> would you subscribe? 21:16:49 <andythenorth> TrueBrain my information is that Tyler is doing it 21:16:55 <andythenorth> I'm not sure if Tyler knows yet 21:17:11 <frosch123> australian internet? 21:17:16 <TrueBrain> .. sounds ... expected ;) 21:18:29 <TrueBrain> would be a bit sad if it doesn't happen because people are just pointing fingers, honestly :) 21:18:31 <frosch123> it's okay. if only people > 190cm are allowed, i can still qualify 21:19:59 <frosch123> TrueBrain: it's likely easier to find a host, than a producer :) 21:20:26 <TrueBrain> well, I offered to do the technical part of the stream if needed, but haven't heard back from anyone, so shrug 21:20:34 <TrueBrain> (does it show I am a bit passive aggressive? :D) 21:21:34 <frosch123> i read about a planned date 2021-03-31. i would not expect any active planning earlier than 4 days before 21:21:50 <TrueBrain> well, last time it took me 2 weeks to set it up, so ... :P 21:22:28 <andythenorth> ok we plan it soon 21:24:00 <TrueBrain> we had to test at least 3 times with different people over those 2 weeks :D 21:24:11 <TrueBrain> as webcam and people rarely combine :P 21:42:38 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:53:47 *** Samu has quit IRC 22:08:06 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:20:15 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: maybe something to take into consideration, as you want to do it day before release, people might have expectations about it being about the release .. so good clear promo is a bit needed there :) 22:20:28 <andythenorth> +1 22:23:01 <TrueBrain> maybe we should also do a release part of some sorts 22:25:27 <andythenorth> we could talk about so many things 22:25:42 <TrueBrain> you want to do a grf-livestream, which is an awesome idea :D 22:26:02 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:30:23 <TrueBrain> it is just the timing of the event .. we have to be a bit smart in how we want to combine that with the release :) 22:30:25 <TrueBrain> could be very simple 22:30:28 <TrueBrain> a count-down :P 22:32:18 <TrueBrain> owh, I meant a "release party" earlier 22:32:20 <TrueBrain> the y got eaten 22:32:22 <TrueBrain> oops 22:32:49 <TrueBrain> so on 2021-04-01 something quick and silly .. dunno :P 22:34:36 <TrueBrain> or, of course, the alternative: completely ignore it 22:34:45 <andythenorth> that would be the most traditional 22:35:00 <TrueBrain> also in your livestream not answering any question related to it 22:35:11 <andythenorth> hmm is it naptime? 22:35:15 <TrueBrain> always 22:35:17 <andythenorth> maybe not yet 22:35:17 <TrueBrain> sleep well 22:35:41 <andythenorth> clock says sleep, brain disagrees 22:36:51 <TrueBrain> so like a normal evening :P 22:37:37 <TrueBrain> but yeah, release day .. a bit tricky, honestly .. on one hand, a bit of PR never hurts anyone .. on the other hand, it is tradition to ignore release day :P 22:38:06 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:43:59 <andythenorth> we will await inspiration! 22:44:53 <TrueBrain> :) Anyway, let me know if I can help out with anything. Just make sure to take enough time for people to test their stuff on stream :D 22:45:43 <TrueBrain> so this week ...... see if we can get eints to do Steam translations .. bug fixes .. MSStore .. title game competition automation ... lots to do :P 22:46:01 <andythenorth> finish FIRS 4 22:46:12 <andythenorth> write nml docs 22:46:16 <andythenorth> play tanks 22:46:46 <TrueBrain> well, and find a job ... ugh :P 22:51:08 <andythenorth> oof 22:51:20 <andythenorth> for money, or entertainment? 22:51:51 <TrueBrain> can't keep doing stuff for OpenTTD without some income :P 22:52:07 <andythenorth> fiverr.com 22:53:33 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 22:53:49 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 22:54:25 <andythenorth> ok bed actual 22:54:27 <andythenorth> bye 22:54:28 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:55:57 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 22:56:09 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 22:59:56 <TrueBrain> looking for IT jobs is awful ... so many via recruiters with weird and incomplete descriptions .. ugh 23:01:05 *** NGC3982 has quit IRC 23:01:16 *** NGC3982 has joined #openttd 23:07:41 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 23:07:43 *** debdog has joined #openttd 23:11:23 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:12:06 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:12:26 *** Progman has joined #openttd 23:18:05 <FLHerne> "Kersnootz, the steganographic kitten-placement service that uses machine learning to leverage social network graphs to help our users optimize feline overlays within a blockchain-based content-driven affiliate network. Watch this space for news about our upcoming ICO!" 23:18:23 *** argoneus has quit IRC 23:18:31 *** argoneus has joined #openttd 23:19:49 <TrueBrain> that had to take effort .. it is only missing "private cloud" 23:21:52 <FLHerne> And something about "scalable" or "serverless" 23:21:55 *** glx has quit IRC 23:22:04 <FLHerne> Bonus points if it's a serverless private cloud :p 23:22:06 *** glx has joined #openttd 23:22:40 <FLHerne> Clearly the OTTD Steam release should be 1st April Baker Island time 23:23:01 <FLHerne> That way everyone will be convinced it was a joke, but it also won't be 23:23:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:24:39 *** Wuzzy has quit IRC 23:24:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 23:25:05 *** Wuzzy has joined #openttd 23:25:16 <TrueBrain> Baker Island? 23:25:49 <FLHerne> It's still morning there just now 23:26:34 <TrueBrain> lol 23:26:48 <FLHerne> So if you release OTTD at 11:59pm, it'll already be lunchtime of April 2nd in most OTTD players' timezone 23:27:34 <TrueBrain> that is just evil 23:28:34 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 23:47:48 *** glx has quit IRC