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01:04:36 *** Hunter has joined #openttd 01:06:02 *** Hunter has quit IRC 01:07:07 *** Hunter has joined #openttd 01:07:55 *** J_Hunter has joined #openttd 01:13:40 <J_Hunter> Howdy 01:33:41 *** Afdal has joined #openttd 01:33:51 <Afdal> Anyone remember what that feud between Freenode and OFTC was all about? 01:34:18 <Afdal> There was a thing that made people move to OFTC a while back, wasn't there? What was the thing? 01:40:58 <Eddi|zuHause> there was never a "feud". there were reasons for moving this channel. 01:41:30 <Eddi|zuHause> there might have been other people who moved for different reasons at different times 01:41:57 <Afdal> Wasn't there like 01:42:10 <Afdal> annoyance at bad Freenode management in the mid-'00s or something? 01:42:20 <Eddi|zuHause> or something 01:42:22 <Afdal> @_@ 01:43:18 <Afdal> Memory holed 01:48:43 <Afdal> I guess there was a time when Freenode didn't have SSL support 01:48:46 <Afdal> while OFTC did 01:54:34 <milek7> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html https://www.openttd.org/news/2006/08/12/new-irc-network.html 01:56:31 <Afdal> I think people were getting cranky at the Freenode ruler's spammy donation requests at the time 01:57:30 <milek7> that seems earlier, in 2002, https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2002/08/msg00046.html 01:57:35 <Afdal> and then he got run over by a car :( 02:07:35 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 02:07:45 <J_Hunter> Yikes 02:46:11 <supermop_Home_> snail_UES_ nyc health & hospitals 02:46:33 <supermop_Home_> the main nyc finder is worthless 02:46:41 <snail_UES_> what’s the URL? I’m using vax4nyc.nyc.gov 02:46:46 <supermop_Home_> the one that Javits is on 02:47:13 <snail_UES_> https://www.nychealthandhospitals.org/ ? 02:47:23 <supermop_Home_> https://covid19.nychealthandhospitals.org/COVIDVaxEligibility 02:47:40 <supermop_Home_> it took a ton of refreshing 02:48:20 <supermop_Home_> like moving the calendar date back and forth to refresh without having to re-do all the attestations 02:49:57 <supermop_Home_> I was also trying the walgreens and rite aid sites (worthless), the nyc city one, and the weil cornell / NYP patient portal 02:51:01 <supermop_Home_> there were a handful of easter sunday spots on staten island this evening 02:52:28 <supermop_Home_> i got lucky and got one on Broome St tho 02:52:50 <supermop_Home_> (although i was eager to have an excuse to ride the SIR) 02:56:07 <supermop_Home_> hopefully the frenzy has died down! 02:58:31 <snail_UES_> thanks, let me try that one 02:58:35 <supermop_Home_> this morning i went on foot to all of the downtown duane reads i could 03:00:06 <snail_UES_> that site seems to redirect you to https://vax4nyc.nyc.gov/patient/s/vaccination-schedule 03:00:14 <snail_UES_> which is the website I’ve been using all day… 03:01:05 <snail_UES_> a few appointments do pop up every now and then, but as soon as I click on them, they’re regularly not available anymore 03:01:29 <supermop_Home_> yes 03:01:34 <supermop_Home_> i had the same issue 03:01:46 <supermop_Home_> i just kept clicking them... for like hours 03:02:18 <supermop_Home_> i think today is just an insane influx of of traffic 03:02:41 <supermop_Home_> but it will be worse next week when they open it to all 16+ 03:02:46 <snail_UES_> I know...!! 03:03:08 <supermop_Home_> so it's a race for us 30+ to get it in before then! 03:03:44 <snail_UES_> exactly :/ 03:03:59 <snail_UES_> I don’t mind driving to staten island or brooklyn… as long as I can secure one 03:04:07 <snail_UES_> yours on broome street sounds quite sweet 03:04:12 <supermop_Home_> sometime the Javits one would show me a spot in like late may 03:04:23 <supermop_Home_> and even that would be gone by the time i clicked it 03:04:38 <supermop_Home_> yes i am quite pleased to get one within walking distance 03:04:53 <supermop_Home_> SI would have been a pain to go for both doses 03:05:47 <supermop_Home_> all of the local Chinatown pharmacies seem to be getting very small / irregular allotments, so they can only do like a pen and paper waitlist 03:06:12 <snail_UES_> so you went there to check? 03:06:23 <snail_UES_> maybe I should do the same with the CVS and Duane Reade around me 03:06:30 <supermop_Home_> i called the Chinatown places 03:06:43 <supermop_Home_> cvs doesn't have anything yet 03:06:51 <supermop_Home_> but DR you might get lucky 03:07:07 <supermop_Home_> if you have a car you could try Citi Field 03:07:12 <supermop_Home_> as a walk in 03:07:48 <supermop_Home_> i was unsure how to balance an hour of walking in to places vs an hour of refreshing pages 03:09:03 <snail_UES_> I see, where is citi field? 03:09:16 <snail_UES_> I do have a car, don’t mind driving somewhere to get the vaccine 03:09:19 <supermop_Home_> if there are independent pharmacies near you i'd try calling them 03:09:28 <supermop_Home_> Mets stadium! 03:10:16 <supermop_Home_> i heard it's the easiest of the big borough-wide centers to get a spot at 03:10:27 <snail_UES_> I see, not that far from here 03:11:22 <supermop_Home_> iif you have the energy to stay up late, i'd advise keep refreshing 03:11:34 <supermop_Home_> and then call some spots in the morning 03:12:20 <supermop_Home_> and if you have a patient profile with one of the big hospital groups try them too. My wife also got an appointment through NYU hospital 03:13:54 <snail_UES_> that’s good for her… 03:14:26 <snail_UES_> guess I’ll try again tomorrow in the early morning 03:14:34 <snail_UES_> thanks for your tips :_ 03:14:35 <snail_UES_> :) 03:20:33 <supermop_Home_> good luck! 03:21:21 <supermop_Home_> finally getting appointments has been a huge benefit to our moods and mental states today! 03:21:32 <supermop_Home_> hope you get yours soon 03:21:36 <snail_UES_> thanks 03:23:13 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 03:33:12 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 04:00:05 *** jgx has quit IRC 04:02:51 *** jgx has joined #openttd 04:19:23 *** jgx has quit IRC 04:19:40 *** jgx has joined #openttd 04:41:42 *** jgx has quit IRC 04:46:04 *** Wuzzy has quit IRC 05:08:28 *** Hunter has joined #openttd 05:09:01 *** Hunter has quit IRC 05:14:16 *** J_Hunter has quit IRC 05:14:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 05:37:25 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:31:56 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 06:32:09 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 06:34:24 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 06:45:32 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 06:45:45 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 07:29:42 *** y2kboy23 has joined #openttd 07:34:09 *** y2kboy23_ has quit IRC 08:06:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain updated pull request #8914: Doc: Prepare for 1.11.0 release https://git.io/JY0wu 08:06:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain updated pull request #8913: Backport master into 1.11 https://git.io/JY0VL 08:13:52 *** urdh has quit IRC 08:14:13 *** supermop_Home_ has quit IRC 08:14:38 *** urdh has joined #openttd 08:23:03 <TrueBrain> just 9 (out of 28) languages left on Steam to translate the Store Page for :D 08:23:04 <TrueBrain> that is not bad 08:24:26 <LordAro> TrueBrain: what about #8904 ? 08:25:05 <TrueBrain> what about it? 08:25:14 <LordAro> no one's reviewed it :( 08:25:28 <TrueBrain> has OpenTTD really become a 2-man-show? :( 08:25:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #8904: Fix #8803: Automatically removing signals on rail construction would … https://git.io/JYzqz 08:27:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #8904: Fix #8803: Automatically removing signals on rail construction would … https://git.io/JYnTt 08:27:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #8803: Signals on slope removed when using «auto remove on construction» with dragging https://git.io/JqvA7 08:27:39 <LordAro> TrueBrain: ta 08:27:54 <LordAro> everyone else does seem to have gotten a bit quieter this week 08:31:59 <TrueBrain> not only this week ;) 08:34:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain updated pull request #8913: Backport master into 1.11 https://git.io/JY0VL 08:35:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain updated pull request #8914: Doc: Prepare for 1.11.0 release https://git.io/JY0wu 08:38:54 *** Venemo has joined #openttd 08:40:51 *** Ttech has quit IRC 08:41:23 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 08:42:02 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 08:43:22 *** Ttech has joined #openttd 08:45:53 <TrueBrain> Steam considers Major Updates "events", which is rather weird for OpenTTD :P 08:46:51 <TrueBrain> okay .. Steam news is also prepared 08:46:54 <andythenorth> \o/ 08:46:55 <TrueBrain> that means I only need reviews now :) 08:47:05 <andythenorth> oof I have so much FIRS to do before release tomorrow 08:47:11 * andythenorth self imposed stupid deadlines 08:47:57 <_dp_> haha, you're not alone in that 08:48:12 * _dp_ has half-broken citymania to fix and yolo into production today 08:49:39 *** crem2 has quit IRC 08:49:50 *** crem2 has joined #openttd 08:51:15 *** luaduck has quit IRC 08:51:46 *** luaduck has joined #openttd 08:55:43 *** Cursarion has quit IRC 08:55:44 *** Cursarion has joined #openttd 09:08:41 <andythenorth> so could we have dynamic company colour rules for groups 09:08:56 <andythenorth> like conditional formatting in a spreadsheet? 09:09:09 <andythenorth> e.g. 'red if this train made no profit last year' 09:09:12 <andythenorth> 'blue if stopped' 09:09:16 <andythenorth> might be lolz 09:10:59 *** grossing has quit IRC 09:11:01 *** grossing has joined #openttd 09:19:27 <Timberwolf> 'yellow if this train would have made a profit, except for the cost of painting it a different colour every few days' 09:21:52 <TrueBrain> right, except cutting out the faces from Discord webcams, I also prepared all images etc for livestream 09:21:58 <_dp_> rather than company color that can actually be a viable highlight 09:23:09 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 09:24:41 <andythenorth> Timberwolf obviously we'd need stacking rules, and OR / XOR / AND and exclusions 09:24:44 <andythenorth> full yolo 09:29:53 *** roadt__ has joined #openttd 09:30:43 *** Markk has quit IRC 09:30:47 *** Markk has joined #openttd 09:31:38 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 09:32:40 <TrueBrain> okay .. I think that is all I had to do for OpenTTD .. we will see if not :P 09:33:45 <LordAro> https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2021/03/cnnix-steership/ 09:36:01 *** roadt_ has quit IRC 09:36:51 *** twpol has quit IRC 09:37:04 *** twpol has joined #openttd 09:43:48 <andythenorth> I have a ship crashing game from 20 years ago 09:43:52 <andythenorth> but it's Flash 09:46:27 <Timberwolf> I was reading about some of the early Bullfrog games (having only really played Populous, Theme Park and a demo of Syndicate) and Powermonger apparently had a mechanic where your orders have to be delivered by carrier pigeon. 09:46:39 *** Artea has quit IRC 09:46:43 <Timberwolf> We should do this for vehicle orders in early start games. 09:46:48 *** Artea has joined #openttd 09:47:02 <Timberwolf> Start with pigeons, then you can build telegraph wires, then radio transmitters. 09:47:31 *** lastmikoi has quit IRC 09:49:09 *** lastmikoi has joined #openttd 09:50:07 *** michi_cc has quit IRC 09:50:11 *** michi_cc has joined #openttd 09:50:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v michi_cc 09:51:00 <Timberwolf> Everything you build has to be created by workers, who emanate from your HQ and will use your passenger network to get closer if it's available. 09:55:07 *** Samu has joined #openttd 09:56:11 <Timberwolf> And now I think if you're going to do that, you may as well require shipping the necessary raw materials from industries. 09:56:42 <Timberwolf> There's probably quite a fun "early Victorian railway company" game in that somewhere, shame I have an actual job. 09:56:47 *** Hobbyboy has quit IRC 09:56:47 *** Hobbyboy has joined #openttd 10:02:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 10:06:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 10:37:09 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 10:44:07 <andythenorth> if I get fired as MD of my business 10:44:21 <andythenorth> I might do the 'yet another derivative of OpenTTD' thing 10:44:44 <TrueBrain> ambitions? :D 10:45:01 <andythenorth> 'ambitions' 10:45:09 <andythenorth> I think I'd rather not get fired TBH 10:52:30 <TrueBrain> :D 10:54:19 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 10:58:43 *** Westie has quit IRC 10:59:15 *** Westie has joined #openttd 11:02:07 *** jeremy[m] has quit IRC 11:02:11 *** jeremy[m] has joined #openttd 11:06:43 *** jinks has quit IRC 11:06:47 *** jinks has joined #openttd 11:25:03 *** natmac[m] has quit IRC 11:25:07 *** natmac[m] has joined #openttd 12:05:55 *** Afdal has quit IRC 12:06:18 *** Afdal has joined #openttd 12:12:18 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 12:28:49 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 12:51:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 12:54:39 *** yoltid[m] has quit IRC 12:54:46 *** yoltid[m] has joined #openttd 12:57:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 13:01:44 *** supermop_Home_ has joined #openttd 13:01:49 <supermop_Home_> yo 13:10:16 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:10:27 <supermop_Home_> any luck snail_UES_? 13:10:56 <snail_UES_> none yet... 13:12:01 <supermop_Home_> keep trying! 13:12:43 <supermop_Home_> andythenorth release flume tomorrow? 13:14:59 <LordAro> hmm, opensfx-*-all.zip just contains a tar file... which is weird. 13:15:21 <andythenorth> supermop_Home_ maybe :) 13:15:23 * andythenorth back to work 13:15:26 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:17:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] LordAro commented on issue #40: Stop calling OpenSFX a "replacement" in BaNaNaS https://git.io/JYngQ 13:17:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] LordAro closed issue #40: Stop calling OpenSFX a "replacement" in BaNaNaS https://git.io/JYngQ 13:17:47 <orudge> LordAro: hm, interesting, 0.2.3 included the untarred directory 13:17:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] supermop commented on pull request #63: Change: Improved infra06.png Monorail and Maglev roof sprites https://git.io/JYg64 13:18:39 *** gretel[m] has quit IRC 13:18:42 *** gretel[m] has joined #openttd 13:22:32 <LordAro> orudge: i'm not sure it's an issue as such, as the tar is what OTTD would use anyway 13:28:03 *** innocenat_ has quit IRC 13:28:12 <peter1138> Jo 13:28:15 *** innocenat_ has joined #openttd 13:28:15 <peter1138> Hi even 13:28:29 <LordAro> peter1138: hello 13:28:38 <LordAro> peter1138: i hope you are no longer in need of help 13:28:39 <peter1138> Can't add it on Steam yet ;( 13:28:54 <peter1138> LordAro, hah, going to take a bit of work to get my legs back up to speed... 13:29:08 <LordAro> aha 13:29:12 <LordAro> i suspected it might be something like that 13:29:13 <peter1138> Felt good being out though 13:29:40 <LordAro> i felt similar after my first outing in a few months a few weeks ago 13:30:03 <peter1138> At least my lungs were okay. Just the legs not happy. 13:31:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] LordAro opened pull request #19: Prepare for 1.0.0 release https://git.io/JYg1X 13:32:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] LordAro merged pull request #58: Fix #49, #51: Correct sprite offsets for toy factory https://git.io/JqvXM 13:33:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] LordAro closed issue #51: Toy factory "hammer" sometimes disconnects https://git.io/Jt2WI 13:33:28 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:36:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] LordAro closed pull request #63: Change: Improved infra06.png Monorail and Maglev roof sprites https://git.io/JYTCr 13:36:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] LordAro updated pull request #63: Change: Improved infra06.png Monorail and Maglev roof sprites https://git.io/JYTCr 13:36:45 <LordAro> ah fuck, i broke it 13:39:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] LordAro commented on pull request #63: Change: Improved infra06.png Monorail and Maglev roof sprites https://git.io/JYgyO 13:42:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] Wuzzy2 commented on pull request #19: Prepare for 1.0.0 release https://git.io/JYgSw 13:43:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] LordAro commented on pull request #19: Prepare for 1.0.0 release https://git.io/JYgSF 13:43:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] LordAro commented on pull request #19: Prepare for 1.0.0 release https://git.io/JYgSx 13:45:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] Wuzzy2 commented on pull request #19: Prepare for 1.0.0 release https://git.io/JYg9W 13:51:57 *** aejess[m] has joined #openttd 14:02:39 *** tonyfinn[m] has quit IRC 14:02:42 *** tonyfinn[m] has joined #openttd 14:13:51 *** fiddeldibu[m] has quit IRC 14:13:54 *** fiddeldibu[m] has joined #openttd 14:19:30 *** aejess[m] is now known as Jess[m] 14:31:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] orudge approved pull request #19: Prepare for 1.0.0 release https://git.io/JY2vr 14:38:22 <supermop_Home_> LordAro i should make a new PR? 14:38:42 <LordAro> supermop_Home_: yes please 14:39:08 <supermop_Home_> but not compared to opengfx master? 14:39:32 <LordAro> no, use a different branch (name) at your end 14:39:46 <LordAro> new-maglev-stations or whatever 14:42:40 <supermop_Home_> ok, not sure how to do that, trying to find out 14:43:11 <LordAro> supermop_Home_: https://pasteboard.co/JVaOvqn.png 14:43:35 <LordAro> then ensure you're on that "tree" before making changes 14:43:40 <LordAro> (if using the GH interface) 14:44:43 <TrueBrain> LordAro: what did you do that it matters how he calls his branch? :D Push to upstream? :D 14:45:04 <LordAro> TrueBrain: something like that 14:45:16 <LordAro> i rebased and squashed his branch 14:45:21 <TrueBrain> what I do, as a lot of people use "master" of their fork, I check it out in my own local branch name 14:45:21 <LordAro> which GH decided it didn't like 14:45:24 <TrueBrain> which I push back in his 14:45:39 <TrueBrain> works fine for me in all the times I did that 14:46:23 <TrueBrain> git fetch https://github.com/...." target="_blank">https://github.com/.... branch && git checkout FETCH_HEAD -b username && git push https://github.com/...." target="_blank">https://github.com/.... HEAD:branch 14:46:39 <LordAro> mm, probably should've done that 14:46:41 <TrueBrain> what worries me, is that "master" is just a name 14:46:52 <TrueBrain> so if he changes it .. what difference does it make for what-ever you made go boom? :P 14:47:52 <TrueBrain> that said, I have pushed to OpenTTD master where I wanted to push to a branch on my fork .... :D That was hilarious :D 14:48:01 <TrueBrain> bypassing PRs like there is no tomorrroowowwwww 14:48:37 <LordAro> oh hang on, it says "no new commits" 14:48:41 <LordAro> what did i do...? 14:49:09 <TrueBrain> did you remove his commit from the branch? 14:49:22 <TrueBrain> a PR is autoclosed when you push HEAD of master to the branch 14:49:27 <TrueBrain> which is weird as fuck :P 14:49:36 <LordAro> i think yes 14:49:48 <TrueBrain> yeah, I did that too :D 14:49:50 <TrueBrain> git reflog! 14:50:10 <LordAro> ! [remote rejected] supermop-master -> master (permission denied) 14:50:11 <LordAro> lol 14:50:39 <TrueBrain> don't push to the wrong git repo :P 14:58:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] supermop opened pull request #64: Revised Monorail and Maglev Roof https://git.io/JY2qg 15:02:29 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 15:09:19 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:09:57 *** Flygon__ has joined #openttd 15:10:47 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest233 15:10:49 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 15:15:19 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 15:16:48 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 15:16:54 *** Guest233 has quit IRC 15:16:57 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 15:21:18 *** Flygon__ has quit IRC 15:21:24 *** Flygon__ has joined #openttd 15:23:48 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:24:10 *** Samu has quit IRC 15:24:34 *** Samu has joined #openttd 15:25:03 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 15:25:50 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 15:27:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] Wuzzy2 commented on pull request #19: Prepare for 1.0.0 release https://git.io/JY2na 15:29:27 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 15:32:31 *** Flygon__ has quit IRC 15:32:31 *** Flygon__ has joined #openttd 15:36:18 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:36:47 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 15:38:18 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 15:41:08 *** Progman has joined #openttd 15:41:38 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 15:41:48 *** Flygon__ has quit IRC 15:44:40 *** glx has joined #openttd 15:44:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 15:48:18 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:03:19 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 16:08:41 *** Afdal has left #openttd 16:12:15 *** didac has joined #openttd 16:18:24 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:29:19 *** CornsMcGowan[m] has quit IRC 16:29:24 *** CornsMcGowan[m] has joined #openttd 17:09:17 *** Eddi|zuHause2 has joined #openttd 17:09:26 *** Samu_ has joined #openttd 17:09:31 *** glx_ has joined #openttd 17:10:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:10:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 17:10:02 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 17:10:02 *** Samu has quit IRC 17:10:03 *** luaduck has quit IRC 17:10:03 *** glx has quit IRC 17:10:03 *** Artea has quit IRC 17:10:03 *** lastmikoi has quit IRC 17:10:03 *** Hobbyboy has quit IRC 17:10:04 *** luaduck has joined #openttd 17:10:05 *** Hobbyboy has joined #openttd 17:10:15 *** lastmikoi has joined #openttd 17:10:15 *** michi_cc_ has joined #openttd 17:10:18 *** michi_cc has quit IRC 17:10:39 *** Artea has joined #openttd 17:12:15 *** ciet[m] has quit IRC 17:12:23 *** ciet[m] has joined #openttd 17:12:28 *** Venemo has quit IRC 17:24:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rpwjanzen commented on pull request #8894: Replace IConsolePrint*(F)( calls with specific console level calls https://git.io/JY2Qx 17:26:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rpwjanzen commented on pull request #8909: Feature 7957, banlist: load/save ban lists from/to external files https://git.io/JY27o 17:36:35 <supermop_Home_> LordAro is the new pr better? 17:51:00 <glx_> commit message is wrong, but at least it's now in a branch :) 17:53:13 <TrueBrain> can someone please review https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/202 and https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/8914, so I can merge them tomorrow when-ever I feel like it? 17:53:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JY2b9 17:53:56 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 17:56:02 <LordAro> supermop_Home_: new PR is good :) 17:56:11 <LordAro> (well, can't particularly speak for the content) 17:58:04 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:58:09 *** Xaroth5 is now known as Xaroth 17:58:40 <supermop_Home_> hah 17:58:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] LordAro commented on pull request #202: Add: OpenTTD 1.11.0 release post https://git.io/JY2Nu 17:59:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #8913: Backport master into 1.11 https://git.io/JY2NV 18:00:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #8914: Doc: Prepare for 1.11.0 release https://git.io/JY2NX 18:02:22 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:02:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain commented on pull request #202: Add: OpenTTD 1.11.0 release post https://git.io/JY2AI 18:02:33 <TrueBrain> tnx LordAro 18:03:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] LordAro commented on pull request #202: Add: OpenTTD 1.11.0 release post https://git.io/JY2As 18:04:11 <andythenorth> yo 18:04:23 <TrueBrain> LordAro: I dunno .. it is in part of so many small things we did 18:04:41 <LordAro> indeed 18:04:46 <LordAro> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:04:52 <TrueBrain> yeah, I really had trouble with that one 18:04:55 <TrueBrain> the others were easy :P 18:06:12 <TrueBrain> no, I think we just leave it for what it is .. I also wanted to mention 60fps 18:06:14 <TrueBrain> but I also failed in that 18:06:49 <TrueBrain> sentences become really long if you try to stuff all that into it :D 18:07:04 <LordAro> indeed 18:07:31 <LordAro> you want to mention all the tiny little technical details, but users don't care about that stuff 18:07:42 <LordAro> they care about the stuff that took 30s to implement 18:07:42 <TrueBrain> it is a difficult balance 18:07:53 <TrueBrain> and our changelogs are rubbish to make it easy to read for users :P 18:08:07 <TrueBrain> I have been fiddling a bit with another way of presenting the changelog 18:08:10 <TrueBrain> but it takes a lot of effort 18:08:23 <TrueBrain> lot of games do things like group it per category 18:08:25 <TrueBrain> which is really nice 18:08:35 <TrueBrain> or have "highlighted features", which they spend a sentence of 3 on 18:08:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain commented on pull request #202: Add: OpenTTD 1.11.0 release post https://git.io/JY2AA 18:08:57 <TrueBrain> but it takes so much time doing that 18:09:04 <TrueBrain> none of us wants to spend that on a release :D 18:09:50 <TrueBrain> https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3009157 <- per category; you can skip all the stuff you don't care about 18:10:30 <TrueBrain> https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/457140/view/4859919684517930748 <- per type per category, also a nice way of doing it 18:11:25 <TrueBrain> FFFs as "release changelog" ... :D 18:12:05 <TrueBrain> https://github.com/longhorn/longhorn/releases/tag/v1.1.0 <- highlights 18:13:12 <TrueBrain> some projects enforce that the title of the PR is that what gets in Changelogs (fully automated) 18:13:18 <TrueBrain> which is also a nice take on things 18:13:33 <LordAro> certainly simplifies generation 18:13:48 <TrueBrain> also makes it clear when to make a new PR and when not to :) 18:18:45 <andythenorth> we have internal changelogs and external release announcements 18:19:00 <andythenorth> the internal changelog tends to relate to tickets not commits 18:19:18 <andythenorth> there seems to be absolutely no point in having people copy the wording from commits and paste it 18:19:23 <andythenorth> (we = at work) 18:19:29 <andythenorth> context andythenorth 18:19:48 <andythenorth> FY andythenorth 18:22:53 <TrueBrain> Our PR titles only aren't that great, so we would have to work on that :) 18:23:03 <TrueBrain> Like always mentioning the ticket it fixes etc 18:31:59 *** orudge has quit IRC 18:31:59 *** orudge has joined #openttd 18:35:05 <LordAro> TrueBrain: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/compare/master...LordAro:release-warnings hmm 18:35:35 <TrueBrain> go for it :D 18:36:01 <TrueBrain> would make a few people happy :P 18:37:14 <LordAro> :) 18:37:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro opened pull request #8916: Codechange: Suppress warnings when asserts are disabled https://git.io/JY2jZ 18:38:08 <TrueBrain> "_table(_thread(_root_vm)->_roottable)->CountUsed();" <- statement has no effect other than the check? 18:39:20 <TrueBrain> it returns a variable 18:39:21 <TrueBrain> lol 18:39:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #8916: Codechange: Suppress warnings when asserts are disabled https://git.io/JY2jK 18:41:03 <LordAro> i'd hope so 18:41:13 <LordAro> i'll be honest, i didn't check that one 18:41:24 <TrueBrain> silly bean 18:41:33 <LordAro> but it doesn't look like it does anything :p 18:41:36 <TrueBrain> never assume a Count function has no effects :P 18:41:48 <TrueBrain> but yeah, it returns a variable, so it should be fine :) 18:41:49 <LordAro> and the squirrel code is well known for being perfectly sane :p 18:43:12 <LordAro> hmm, there are quite a few other usages of _DEBUG 18:43:23 <LordAro> i'm not quite sure of the distinction 18:43:37 <supermop_Home_> is there a way i can make the commit checker test run again? 18:43:55 <LordAro> supermop_Home_: not without force pushing to correct the commit message 18:44:03 <LordAro> which you can't do via the GH interface 18:44:11 <supermop_Home_> oof 18:44:11 <LordAro> don't worry about it, it can be fixed "in post" 18:44:22 <TrueBrain> LordAro: how is _DEBUG set? 18:44:31 <LordAro> i don't know... 18:45:29 <TrueBrain> its a bit weird 18:45:35 <TrueBrain> the tab/shift for FF is linked to it 18:45:39 <TrueBrain> for all OSes 18:45:47 <TrueBrain> owh, is _DEBUG not Debug vs Release 18:45:53 <TrueBrain> ? 18:45:58 <LordAro> that would make sense 18:46:26 <LordAro> is it linked for all OSes? i only see it in allegro & win32 18:46:45 <LordAro> oh, my grep was suboptimal 18:46:45 <TrueBrain> sdl2_v.cpp, line 603 18:46:57 <LordAro> " _DEBUG" doesn't catch defined(..) 18:47:16 <TrueBrain> does make me wonder why you had to replace one _DEBUG for NDEBUG 18:47:39 <TrueBrain> owh, CI does Debug build ofc 18:47:40 <TrueBrain> that makes sense 18:48:00 <LordAro> code within it is only used for the assert, so.. 18:48:04 <TrueBrain> yeah 18:48:06 <TrueBrain> it was wrong 18:48:09 <TrueBrain> but happened to go correctly 18:48:11 <TrueBrain> :D 18:48:20 <TrueBrain> as a release release build wouldn't throw that warning 18:48:24 <TrueBrain> only debug release builds :D 18:48:25 <TrueBrain> haha 18:49:00 <LordAro> uh 18:49:01 <LordAro> sure! 18:49:22 <TrueBrain> the CI makes a BuildType=Debug build with NO_ASSERTS 18:50:08 <TrueBrain> bit weird combo :P 18:54:54 <peter1138> Urgh. Shall I open this special bottle of beer... 18:56:46 <supermop_Home_> peter1138 yes 18:57:45 <peter1138> Ok 19:02:12 <peter1138> I don't know what game to play. I went back into Humble account and found several months of unclaimed Monthly games... 19:11:27 *** Timberwolf has quit IRC 19:11:28 *** Timberwolf has joined #openttd 19:11:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #8906: Change: [CMake] Copy AI/GS compatibility files to build dir https://git.io/JYaUs 19:16:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #8880: Feature: Press ctrl to build diagonal rivers in Scenario Editor https://git.io/JYaUb 19:35:59 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 19:36:02 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 19:38:59 <frosch123> it probably was a stupid idea to feed 8k nodes and 11k edges into graphviz 19:39:26 <glx_> depends on available RAM I guess 19:39:53 <frosch123> 500MB currently, but i don't know whether it will finish today :) 19:40:38 *** glx_ is now known as glx 19:42:17 *** DorpsGek sets mode: +v glx 19:43:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #8908: Adds hotkey for the new filter edit boxes. https://git.io/JYaLT 19:44:15 *** welterde has quit IRC 19:44:31 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 19:44:50 *** welterde has joined #openttd 19:44:58 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttd 19:47:29 <andythenorth> frosch123 which grf is that? :D 19:47:40 <frosch123> complete firs 19:47:52 <frosch123> i guess i can only show single industries :p 19:47:59 *** Heiki has quit IRC 19:48:06 *** Heiki has joined #openttd 19:49:41 <supermop_Home_> peter1138 what kind of beer? 19:53:53 <andythenorth> now I want to try graphvizing FIRS :P 19:54:09 * andythenorth wonders how many duplicate nodes 19:56:18 <andythenorth> Iron Horse would probably be worse 19:57:26 *** gelignite has quit IRC 19:59:52 <TrueBrain> LordAro: if you merge your PR, I can rebase mine, so we can see if that fixes all warnings? :D 20:00:10 <TrueBrain> owh, no 20:00:12 <TrueBrain> 2 different PRs 20:00:14 <TrueBrain> nevermind :P 20:02:25 <LordAro> you'd have to backport it as well :p 20:02:37 <LordAro> which you're welcome to do 20:02:42 <TrueBrain> I will, but not tonight 20:02:56 <TrueBrain> so if you merge, I will take care of that tomorrow :P But was hoping I could do that quickly :D 20:03:16 <LordAro> speaking of, ogfx release? would be nice to get supermop_Home_'s things in 20:03:28 <LordAro> need someone to actually test it though... 20:04:22 <TrueBrain> can't help there :( 20:09:57 <supermop_Home_> andythenorth is steeltown plastic meant to be pellets? 20:10:08 <supermop_Home_> does it go in covered hoppers? 20:10:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler dismissed a review for pull request #8880: Feature: Press ctrl to build diagonal rivers in Scenario Editor https://git.io/JYLPS 20:10:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #8880: Feature: Press ctrl to build diagonal rivers in Scenario Editor https://git.io/Jmd3N 20:11:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #8880: Feature: Press ctrl to build diagonal rivers in Scenario Editor https://git.io/JYaqw 20:15:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #8880: Feature: Press ctrl to build diagonal rivers in Scenario Editor https://git.io/JYaqh 20:16:59 *** didac has quit IRC 20:19:55 <frosch123> andythenorth: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/frosch123/889b6478a6d5d7b10f89d9b014845331/raw/cbbe9c1a2526a1e6195ee4a0312e63b6bdf7c1ae/firs_furnace1.png 20:20:11 <andythenorth> supermop_Home_ yes 20:20:12 <frosch123> two very similar industries, they only share "switch_colour" :p 20:20:37 <andythenorth> look at all those location switches :P 20:20:50 <andythenorth> those are early candidates for procedures :P 20:22:21 <frosch123> my graph does not include procedures btw :p 20:22:27 <frosch123> too complicate to extract 20:23:29 *** Smedles has quit IRC 20:24:41 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 20:25:22 <supermop_Home_> what about carbon black? does that go in a tank? 20:26:40 <FLHerne> supermop_Home_: It's a fine powder, so probably equivalent to cement for transport 20:26:48 <FLHerne> But much more flammable 20:27:52 <supermop_Home_> i don't feel like adding silo trailers 20:28:15 <supermop_Home_> so either covered hopper, tank, or in bags in a box truck? 20:30:28 <andythenorth> supermop_Home_ carbon black has dedicated hoppers IRL 20:31:05 <andythenorth> I think carbon black is non-flammable, it's literally fine soot 20:31:17 <andythenorth> but it might be combustible as a powder? 20:31:34 <glx> I guess it's like flour 20:32:05 <glx> safe when compact, dangerous when dispersed in the air 20:32:36 <andythenorth> boom! 20:33:01 <andythenorth> supermop_Home_ https://www.scaletrains.com/time-to-model-custom-carbon-black-covered-hopper-cars/ 20:33:04 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 20:33:31 <supermop_Home_> recolor covered hopper to black? 20:34:28 <andythenorth> that's what I do 20:34:52 <andythenorth> https://grf.farm/iron-horse/2.21.0/html/trains.html#carbon_black_hopper_car_pony_gen_3A 20:37:47 <TrueBrain> LordAro: maybe release OpenGFX without that PR? 20:38:46 <supermop_Home_> :( 20:39:47 <TrueBrain> we can always do a new release shortly after :) 20:40:30 <glx> releases are easy to do (and would be even easier when we find a way to auto upload to bananas ;) ) 20:41:47 <LordAro> mm 20:48:44 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:49:39 *** Smedles has quit IRC 20:50:36 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 20:52:15 <andythenorth> oof I have done no FIRS this evening 20:52:18 <andythenorth> I have done chores 20:52:22 <andythenorth> and so on 20:54:25 *** Samu_ has quit IRC 21:02:25 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 21:03:55 *** y2kboy23 has quit IRC 21:04:55 *** y2kboy23 has joined #openttd 21:17:19 *** joey[m] has quit IRC 21:17:21 *** joey[m] has joined #openttd 21:18:56 <snail_UES_> supermop_Home_: I just got my vaccine :) 21:20:31 *** grag[m] has quit IRC 21:20:40 *** grag[m] has joined #openttd 21:21:08 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:23:09 <TrueBrain> glx: yeah ... guess we need to implement API tokens after all 21:23:10 <TrueBrain> no clue how :P 21:23:15 <TrueBrain> well, I have a clue 21:23:17 <TrueBrain> but .. 21:23:18 <TrueBrain> work :D 21:24:25 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 21:27:27 *** Aileen[m] has quit IRC 21:27:32 *** Aileen[m] has joined #openttd 21:28:00 *** sla_ro|master2 has joined #openttd 21:31:11 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:33:02 <TrueBrain> hmm .. I wonder if we could use a PAT against GitHub OAuth2 21:33:04 <TrueBrain> that would also solve it 21:42:43 <TrueBrain> lol .. even a day before, you get things like "Is this supposed to be april joke? I can't take this seriously by looking at that playscreen gif " 21:42:45 <TrueBrain> :D 21:42:59 <TrueBrain> I cannot believe that after 10 years, releasing on the first of April is still funny :P 21:44:24 <TrueBrain> https://www.reddit.com/r/openttd/comments/mh6bux/111_update/ <- how?! Just: how?! 21:47:01 <michi_cc_> Best April fool's joke ever :P 21:52:18 <TrueBrain> The joke that keeps on joking 21:52:41 <TrueBrain> Shall we not release tomorrow? Postpone by a week or something? :p 21:54:38 <_dp_> "we listened to community and decided to make a joke instead of release"? :p 21:56:33 <FLHerne> TrueBrain: I already told you, pick a weird timezone 21:56:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #8916: Codechange: Suppress warnings when asserts are disabled https://git.io/JYaWH 21:57:05 <FLHerne> On Baker Island it's still 9:56am 22:04:18 *** sla_ro|master2 has quit IRC 22:11:44 <andythenorth> oof bedtime here though 22:12:44 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:27:53 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 22:35:27 *** paulus[m] has quit IRC 22:35:36 *** paulus[m] has joined #openttd 22:36:29 *** glx has quit IRC 22:51:59 <supermop_Home_> snail_UES_ where'd you end up going? 22:52:27 <snail_UES_> Bronx. I was frantically fiddling with that website, until I got an appointment for just 1 hour later... 22:52:40 <snail_UES_> had to jump on my car and rush there :p 22:56:29 <supermop_Home_> nice! 22:56:40 <supermop_Home_> a friend of mine also got one in the Bronx today 22:59:02 <snail_UES_> sounds great :) 23:04:19 <supermop_Home_> ok flumes on bananas! 23:07:59 *** shedidthedog[m] has quit IRC 23:08:02 *** shedidthedog[m] has joined #openttd 23:21:35 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 23:22:36 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:24:53 *** ZirconiumX has joined #openttd 23:28:03 *** nielsm has quit IRC 23:45:51 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 23:46:07 *** tneo has quit IRC 23:46:22 *** planetmaker has joined #openttd 23:46:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 23:46:23 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 23:46:52 *** tneo has joined #openttd 23:47:22 *** Hirundo has joined #openttd