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00:22:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 00:26:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Milek7 commented on pull request #9017: Feature: play easier together with friends from behind home routers https://git.io/JsPiw 01:42:04 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 01:42:17 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 02:05:19 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 02:05:30 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 02:19:39 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 02:20:18 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 02:25:13 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 02:38:43 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 02:42:04 *** debdog has quit IRC 03:05:15 *** glx has quit IRC 03:26:31 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 03:32:10 *** didc has joined #openttd 03:52:47 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 03:52:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 03:59:37 *** tokai has quit IRC 05:58:32 *** didc has quit IRC 06:08:59 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:43:03 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:27:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #9285: Fixes for Haiku https://git.io/JsXdx 07:37:15 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:45:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 07:54:22 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 07:54:36 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 08:02:55 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:16:00 <peter1138> Yessir 08:16:22 <andythenorth> yo 09:20:24 <peter1138> Is it? 09:22:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LC-Zorg commented on issue #9281: Company Takeover Maths not correct. https://git.io/JsVIj 09:46:13 *** Samu has joined #openttd 10:01:05 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 10:01:18 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 10:08:00 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 10:08:14 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 11:54:24 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:54:25 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 12:14:22 *** JamesRoss[m] has quit IRC 12:23:08 *** Venemo has joined #openttd 12:25:12 *** supermop_Home_ has joined #openttd 12:52:40 *** glx has joined #openttd 12:52:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 12:56:39 <andythenorth> is naptime? 12:56:42 *** tonyfinn[m] has quit IRC 13:17:05 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:19:49 <TrueBrain> Yes 13:43:11 <peter1138> Ooops. I did actually :/ 13:43:29 <andythenorth> I should 13:43:37 <andythenorth> I never do, except by accident 13:51:47 <TrueBrain> frosch123: here is a nice one .. we call vanilla "master" in BaNaNaS :) Not sure why we ended up picking that name in the end, as wasn't our idea here to allow other patchpacks etc? 13:53:50 <TrueBrain> enum is called OFFICIAL_OPENTTD :) 13:54:04 <TrueBrain> guess we should just rename it to "vanilla" :) Might make more sense :D 13:54:16 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:54:23 <TrueBrain> (it is used on the compatibility part of uploads) 13:55:02 <TrueBrain> makes no sense to call it "master" (or "main" for that matter); it is a version range to start with :D Lolz .. not sure what our idea was there :P 13:56:38 <Rubidium> hmm s/master/vanilla/ instead of s/master/main/? ;) 13:56:51 <TrueBrain> no, it is a completely different context 13:56:51 <TrueBrain> https://github.com/OpenTTD/BaNaNaS/blob/1de4b772b1263e6a225b900578dbb03612c59822/newgrf/454e2601/versions/20180611T200232Z.yaml#L7 13:56:54 <TrueBrain> as example 13:57:08 <TrueBrain> it marks that the upload is compatible with "master" from version 1.6.0 and above 13:57:22 <TrueBrain> but "master" in this context is weird .. I believe our idea was to allow uploads for specific patchpacks 13:57:32 <TrueBrain> so you could say: JGRPP >= 0.40.0 too 13:58:07 <TrueBrain> (which isn't implemented btw) 13:58:53 <TrueBrain> I believe back when we were working on this we were struggling a bit how to call us vs patchpacks 13:59:22 <TrueBrain> personally I think "vanilla" is fine 14:01:38 <milek7> upstream? 14:01:41 <TrueBrain> https://bananas.openttd.org/package/newgrf/454e2601/2018-06-11T20:02:32+00:00 <- funny, the lookup translated it into "Official OpenTTD" 14:02:57 <TrueBrain> no, "upstream" is a relative term. For a fork of JGRPP, JGRPP is upstream. So that will only add confusion 14:06:31 <Xaroth> vanilla works, you could also use "openttd" since you're indicating the versioning used by openttd itself 14:10:26 <TrueBrain> https://github.blog/changelog/2021-05-18-github-discussions-labels-and-announcements-category-format/ <- labbbeeeelllllssssss 14:29:35 *** Venemo has quit IRC 14:43:06 *** gelignite has quit IRC 14:50:46 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 14:53:40 *** Venemo has joined #openttd 14:55:05 <peter1138> vanilla, official, standard, lessbuggy... 16:04:15 <supermop_Home_> hi 16:09:50 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:17:16 <Artea> "so Thanks to everyone that modernize my childhood game(s)" 16:17:26 <Artea> I just said this on OpenRA discord 16:17:48 <Artea> since I was talking about C&C be apart of my childhood and how helped me with sequels of meningitis 16:17:51 <Artea> OpenTTD 16:17:54 <Artea> is no fucking exception 16:18:08 <Artea> TTD was my favorite game to pass all night awake 16:18:29 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 16:18:32 <Artea> I used to pause TTD at midnight / 1 am just to go see Seinfeld on TV 16:18:57 <Artea> I miss OTTD 16:18:58 <Artea> :( 16:20:18 *** Venemo has quit IRC 16:25:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rel1c opened issue #9286: Fast forward is bound to SHIFT not TAB in latest Fedora release https://git.io/JsMXH 16:27:43 <LordAro> i was talking to ^ on reddit 16:28:35 <LordAro> seems like official fedora packages are debug builds? 16:34:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rel1c commented on issue #9031: Rivers going uphill are nearly impossible to distinguish from flat river https://git.io/JOq2J 16:35:42 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:39:42 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:40:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #9286: Fast forward is bound to SHIFT not TAB in latest Fedora release https://git.io/JsMXH 16:40:52 <glx> hehe was about to comment about it being a debug build 16:41:34 <milek7> why though debug changes hotkeys..? 16:41:43 <glx> because alt tab 16:41:45 <LordAro> hysterical rasins 16:42:00 <LordAro> alternative question - why is it hardcoded 16:47:11 <milek7> eh, why drivers are weird mix of classes and static vars 16:52:22 <Rubidium> they used to be C "classes" 17:06:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rel1c commented on issue #9286: Fast forward is bound to SHIFT not TAB in latest Fedora release https://git.io/JsMXH 17:07:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #9286: Fast forward is bound to SHIFT not TAB in latest Fedora release https://git.io/JsMXH 17:22:41 *** tokai has joined #openttd 17:22:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 17:27:37 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:29:32 <andythenorth> yo 17:29:38 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 17:34:05 <peter1138> Yes 17:34:35 <peter1138> Pasta tonight. 17:34:42 <peter1138> Pasta and chunky bevels 17:37:50 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 17:38:50 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 17:40:31 <andythenorth> pasta maybe 17:42:55 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:46:14 <frosch123> TrueBrain: yes, i picked the branch names in bananas: "jgrpp" and "master". but meh, "vanilla" is also fine 17:46:37 <peter1138> Hmm, music keyboard or computer keyboard. 17:46:42 <peter1138> Or, indeed, flight yoke. 17:46:59 <frosch123> i just wanted a nice slug, so i did not use "OpenTTD official" or "openttd_official" (latter is ugly :p ) 17:51:08 <frosch123> hmm, i associate "vanilla" mostly with "no newgrf" 18:30:42 *** Progman has quit IRC 18:42:09 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:49:08 *** jellyknight has joined #openttd 18:53:14 * Timberwolf plays the "how many times can I crash OpenTTD changing the newgrf files from under it" game. 18:55:31 *** gelignite has quit IRC 18:57:12 <andythenorth> 'some' 18:57:16 <andythenorth> mostly strings though 18:57:29 <andythenorth> or if you get really unlucky and hit reload_newgrfs just as the file is rm-ed 19:01:07 <TrueBrain> frosch123: yeah, I agree, "vanilla" can be strange in this context. "official" ? 19:01:13 <TrueBrain> feels weird too 19:01:19 <TrueBrain> guess we are back to: there is no right word for this :D 19:02:07 <peter1138> trunk 19:02:12 <TrueBrain> owh, I like peter1138's suggestion of "standard 19:03:32 <andythenorth> default :P 19:03:44 <TrueBrain> not-jgrpp? 19:03:49 <frosch123> true ttd 19:03:51 <michi_cc> If you don't want to stop offending somebody, call it mainstream :P 19:03:52 <andythenorth> outdated 19:04:12 <TrueBrain> michi_cc: haha :D 19:05:56 <TrueBrain> well, I guess if the human readable text is "OpenTTD official", the key name could be "official" just as well 19:06:07 <TrueBrain> I like sync'd key/value pairs :) 19:06:58 <TrueBrain> takes two deployments anyway to make this change :P 19:16:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JsDmq 19:16:28 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 19:20:43 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 19:52:56 *** Samu_ has joined #openttd 19:58:01 *** Samu has quit IRC 20:27:07 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 20:28:13 *** jellyknight has quit IRC 20:55:22 <glx> <LordAro> alternative question - why is it hardcoded <-- it's deep inside video drivers, probably not easy to not hardcode 20:56:06 <TrueBrain> honestly, shouldn't be hard to make it configurable .. it is in a weird place now anyway :P 20:56:24 <TrueBrain> I guess a more truth answer is: because when it was written configurable keys wasn't a thing 20:56:46 <glx> it sets a variable in the driver, and this variable is used only there 20:58:10 <TrueBrain> the main issue is most likely that this is the only (?) key we have that is only doing something during key-down 20:58:13 <TrueBrain> and stops when going key-up 20:58:17 <TrueBrain> normally we react only on key-up 20:58:35 <glx> yeah it's active only when down 20:59:10 <TrueBrain> but otherwise, it is just setting a single boolean to true, so that can be done from any place :P 20:59:31 <TrueBrain> just one of those: nobody cared and so it is where it is doing what it does :D 21:24:28 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:25:22 *** Samu_ has quit IRC 21:30:56 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:31:36 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:35:45 <frosch123> TrueBrain: there is also scrolling with cursor 21:35:52 <frosch123> people want to map it to wasd 21:36:13 <frosch123> but yes, we do not support remapping keys which must be held down 21:44:00 <glx> haha there's a hotkey (not set by default) for FFWD toggle 21:44:23 <glx> but it's hard to use when autosave is enabled 22:09:03 *** Progman has joined #openttd 22:27:51 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:40:40 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:46:51 *** milek7 has left #openttd 22:54:00 *** milek7 has joined #openttd 22:58:22 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 23:04:20 *** murr5y is now known as murr4y 23:47:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Ben79487 opened issue #9287: Autoreplace protection doesn't apply to sub-groups https://git.io/JsDSZ