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01:04:23  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] EmperorJake commented on discussion #10100: [macOS] Benchmarks wanted: does hardware acceleration improve performance? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/10100
01:07:12  <reldred> andythenorth: Absolutely.
01:18:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on discussion #10100: [macOS] Benchmarks wanted: does hardware acceleration improve performance? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/10100
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01:36:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] EmperorJake commented on discussion #10100: [macOS] Benchmarks wanted: does hardware acceleration improve performance? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/10100
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03:26:53  <wallabra> openttd is fun, and mindustry is fun too
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07:56:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl updated pull request #10001: Feature: [GS] Scriptable league tables https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10001
08:10:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl commented on pull request #10001: Feature: [GS] Scriptable league tables https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10001#issuecomment-1293152384
08:11:25  <dP> ^^ would be nice to get it in 13.0 ;)
08:26:25  <LordAro> i've created the 13.0 milestone
08:26:46  <LordAro> TallTyler: you can add all the issues/PRs you highlighted to it as well
08:30:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on discussion #10100: [macOS] Benchmarks wanted: does hardware acceleration improve performance? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/10100
08:32:54  <andythenorth> Hmm I don’t have my github creds to hand, but
08:32:57  <petern> Morning. Beer was a bad idea, I fell asleep in this chair...
08:33:04  <andythenorth> Oops
08:33:50  <petern> I need a rebase-undo.
08:33:58  <andythenorth> For mac performance, using the GPU might cause throttling on some macs
08:34:05  <petern> As in, not as far back as rebase --abort
08:34:16  <andythenorth> Only after a few minutes of sustained load
08:35:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] krysclarke closed pull request #10107: Codechange: Moved Sound Driver Parameter list in commandline help text https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10107
08:35:55  <petern> MacBook Air M2 ... £300 more for 2 extra GPU cores and 256GB SSD
08:36:59  <petern> Fortunately I don't need a laptop 😄
08:38:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] krysclarke commented on pull request #10107: Codechange: Moved Sound Driver Parameter list in commandline help text https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10107#issuecomment-1293186113
08:38:53  <petern> Mac Studio pricing is amusing, Pay double, two get double the numbers.
08:39:06  <petern> ...
08:39:20  <petern> Pay double to get double the numbers
08:39:27  <petern> I should go back to bed.
08:41:12  <andythenorth> Double to bed
08:41:40  <andythenorth> Is there not an m1 mini for about 50p?
08:42:58  <andythenorth> Studio is mega money
08:50:04  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #10107: Codechange: Moved Sound Driver Parameter list in commandline help text https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10107#issuecomment-1293200067
08:50:08  <andythenorth> Oh the Studio is the one where the dies for the SoC include the big connector
08:50:38  <andythenorth> So yeah, double price, double SoC
09:04:03  <andythenorth> Hmm 20 cores eh
09:04:24  <andythenorth> That will make single-threaded nml soooo much faster :p
09:26:52  <petern> I still hate bootstrap. `c2022-10-27T09:33:30  <petern> Shift-F12 play Elite
10:34:52  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] SoapGentoo commented on pull request #16: Gentoo patches https://github.com/OpenTTD/grfcodec/pull/16#issuecomment-1293326866
10:43:39  <LordAro> perl -0777 -i -pe 's/(static WindowDesc(.|\n)*?\);)/\/* clang-format off *\/\n\n\/* clang-format on *\//mg;' -pe 's/(static const NWidgetPart(.|\n)*?};)/\/* clang-format off *\/\n\n\/* clang-format on *\//mg' src/*_gui.cpp
10:43:43  <LordAro> this is fine.
11:04:12  <petern> What does that do?
11:04:36  <petern> Special magic to avoid reformatting I guess.
11:04:56  <LordAro> yeah
11:05:14  <LordAro> except for the one that is "static const struct NWidgetPart", because of course there was one
11:05:36  <petern> Heh
11:07:24  <petern> I wonder if changing the array to be actually nested could work.
11:08:02  <petern> Although at that point you are effectively building the window rather than describing the window.
11:08:12  <petern> And being dynamic would be very much harder.
11:08:13  <petern> So no 😄
11:08:25  <LordAro> mm
11:17:05  <petern> Thought I was taking it easy last night but still reached 184 on the ol' ticker.
11:23:59  <LordAro> well done
11:32:02  <petern> Probably need to be careful at my age 😛
11:37:24  <LordAro> hehe
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11:53:35  <petern> 220 - 184... guess I am actually 36.
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13:34:22  <fullHD4k> BRO, FRЕЕ GIFТ DISСОRD NIТRO - https://clck.ru/32VTGN
13:35:09  <andythenorth> Definitely clicking that twice
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16:23:43  <Arastais> LordAro: That reminds me, 2TT said he wanted to add #10058 before bc it was trivial, but since then its been discussed and i’ve split the windows as minimally as possible so its still a relatively small change. Since it’s not trivial anymore is it still part of the 13 milestone?
16:24:18  <LordAro> i have no idea :p
16:24:29  <LordAro> i just added the one because someone asked for it
16:24:33  <LordAro> i've not thought any further than that
17:06:21  <petern> Road bike tonight, woo
17:06:26  <petern> Less shit...
17:10:44  <frosch> has anyone heard or read about https://opensourcehub.io/ or https://www.codesee.io/ ?
17:11:20  <frosch> they are inviting us (though anyone can join, so i guess they ask us to join)
17:11:37  <frosch> main point would be to have access to the codesee PR review tools
17:11:44  <frosch> but all the videos are about css and crap :p
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17:19:16  <petern> What does it even do?
17:20:10  <frosch> two things: it offer some configureable bots, which check PRs based on some conditions
17:20:40  <frosch> and it has some kind of fancy PR review interface, which tries to guess other relevant code parts
17:22:43  <frosch> i guess we don't need the bots, otherwise tb would have written them already :p
17:22:53  <frosch> i have no idea about the review thingie
17:23:02  <frosch> i was hoping someone else has used it before 🙂
17:23:33  <petern> Heh
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18:57:09  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/b0fd51a5ef271e0dcde266747062e0f19ef79534
18:57:10  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
19:24:26  <Bouke> andythenorth: You have some more information about this?
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19:31:12  <andythenorth> My 16” i9 does it, but it’s in a cupboard 100 miles away right now 😛
19:31:28  <andythenorth> With a flat battery 😛
19:32:23  <andythenorth> It might also do it without the GPU
19:34:08  <Bouke> Lol the 16" i9 throttles when just idling 🫣
19:37:38  <TallTyler> Arastais: I added it to the milestone but if others disagree we can always remote it
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19:43:36  <andythenorth> Bouke: This would be funnier if it wasn’t true 😬
19:47:44  <Arastais> TallTyler: Thanks. Are you guys planning on adding anything else to the milestone? Also, don't know if you saw but i made #10110 to add your honking pr to a hotkey like u suggested.
19:49:08  <Bouke> andythenorth: I have this on my 2019 to keep it from throttling (disables turbo boost when hot): http://tbswitcher.rugarciap.com/
19:50:03  <Bouke> (Which is somewhat similar to the "low power mode" introduced in Monterey, but can disable dynamically based on temperature / fan speed / other triggers)
19:51:27  <andythenorth> Ha ha I forgot about Turbo
19:51:35  <andythenorth> It’s quite 486
19:51:54  <andythenorth> “Turbo” on i9 = slower
20:18:56  <petern> I had 8 and 16 MHz modes on my 386sx 🙂
20:19:41  <petern> Never ran Doom on that as it had 1MB RAM
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20:21:01  <frosch> only factor 2? i remember my 386 turbo button doing 4x
20:21:19  <frosch> the 8088 may have had a 2x switch, but it was on the back 😒
20:22:11  <petern> Well tbh it might've been 4.77MHz, but the 7 segment display was set to 8 and 16
20:23:42  <petern> There were 25 MHz and I think AMD even had a 40 MHz 386s, but ours wasn't
20:28:02  <petern> Damn, stupid speed on the tourer tonight
20:45:41  <LordAro> not bad
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21:01:49  <petern> Negating the benefits with a Krispy Kreme... tut
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21:18:58  <andythenorth> Was it lunch?
21:22:41  <petern> Well
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21:33:59  <petern> NewDisasters? https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1585046090742890497
21:40:18  <FLHerne> Isn't that just a standard train:RV collision?
21:40:58  <FLHerne> just needs a grf that adds delivery robots as an RV that's a single white pixel
21:41:16  <petern> Basically yeah
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22:30:51  <Eddi|zuHause> i had a 386 with 25MHz and it had no "turbo" button
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