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Log for #openttd on 22nd June 2023:
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13:50:45  <truebrain> let's fix that
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14:11:34  <truebrain> it isn't really quick, to catch up on 3 years of old files πŸ˜›
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14:18:09  <truebrain> okay .. the script actually seems to work fine .. I still don't like deleting files from a CDN πŸ™‚
14:21:24  <LordAro> keep everything forever!
14:23:31  <truebrain> 2020 and 2021 done ... this is taking for evvvaaaahhhhh
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14:35:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/workflows] TrueBrain opened pull request #31: Add: a way to clean up old nightlies https://github.com/OpenTTD/workflows/pull/31
14:35:32  <truebrain> right .. someone can review that if they like πŸ˜„
14:38:44  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] BPplays commented on issue #11054: [Bug]: font (A-OTF Shin Go Pr6N) not working https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11054
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15:29:38  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #11057: Codechange: improve name of method and prepare for std::string_view https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11057
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17:18:50  <LordAro> truebrain: fun problem that will probably make you scream - somewhere, the internal docker IP range (172...) for a couple of servers is getting added to DNS, making sshing into them mildly more difficult than it should be
17:19:33  <truebrain> With an open mouth: how?
17:19:40  <truebrain> how does that even happen ...
17:19:44  <truebrain> EasyDNS installed? πŸ˜›
17:20:05  <LordAro> it's something to do with how we add linux servers to AD DNS
17:20:16  <LordAro> (i.e. poorly)
17:20:32  <truebrain> yeah, okay, I can already envision why this happens ... yeah, that is a bit annoying πŸ˜„
17:20:50  <truebrain> I also always love companies that use 172 for their internal network
17:20:55  <truebrain> that doesn't break at all with WSL, Docker, ... πŸ˜›
17:21:11  <LordAro> oh, we don't
17:21:24  <LordAro> but it gets added to DNS all the same
17:23:44  <dwfreed> I mean, there's only 3 RFC1918 ranges applicable
17:24:12  <dwfreed> if anything, WSL, Docker, and others need to learn how to use a range that is not in use
17:24:35  <dwfreed> if anything they should just use 169.254 instead
17:27:43  <truebrain> like Windows isn't using that at all .. constantly ..
17:27:51  <truebrain> not sure, if I were Docker, I would avoid that range as the plague πŸ˜›
17:28:33  <truebrain> (169.254/16 is the zeroconf range .. you shouldn't have static IPs on a zeroconf range .. that is just asking for trouble :D)
18:19:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #11058: Codechange: simplify string formatting for the viewport https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11058
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18:38:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/9016d4a5b5fb2b48f46c4092860b614d578a5d70
18:38:09  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
18:38:42  <truebrain> tnx eints!
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18:52:26  <truebrain> 100GB cached, 115GB not .. so close ...
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19:27:03  <peter1138> Hmm
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19:47:54  <jfs> can I ask again for someone to review #7786 soon...
19:50:22  <peter1138> To make it easier, <https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/7786>
19:54:53  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #7786: Add: Help and manuals window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/7786#issuecomment-1603234332
19:57:29  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #11059: Remove: support for not having getifaddrs https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11059
20:00:49  <Eddi|zuHause> too many nested inversions :p
20:09:57  <pickpacket> Based on this discussion (https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=91012&sid=bad9db23241a3964abbe6c52a636ee68), what's the chance of this solution being accepted (after testing of course)? https://lounge.warmedal.se/uploads/b82be23c7a697ca1/fix_exclusive_rights.txt
20:13:41  <truebrain> (I am not in a serious mood): 50/50. Either it happens or it doesn't πŸ˜›
20:19:22  <pickpacket> lol
20:20:07  <Rubidium_> well... welcome to bike-shedding. Everyone has an opinion about it. Have you thought about the simplest solution? Changing the description in the UI to mention "until another company buys exclusive rights"
20:20:54  <pickpacket> Rubidium_: any reason that solution would have a better chance at being accepted? πŸ˜‚
20:21:31  <talltyler> Because that’s not a change, it’s just a better tooltip to describe how it already works
20:21:47  <pickpacket> true
20:22:31  <talltyler> And better tooltips are _always_ welcome
20:24:00  <Rubidium_> the real question is: how do we want the town to behave? Given that you can already bribe them, they're not really thinking about integrity and that giving exclusive rights to another company is "fine"
20:24:32  <pickpacket> I mean that *would* be an improvement. Right now everyone I've talked to who hasn't used or seen it used before expect it to be a binding contract that lasts a year. They're surprised to learn that someone else can buy it whilst they have it.
20:24:57  <talltyler> Bike shedding about a change or new feature is sometimes inevitable, but you’ll generally get more if you start an open-ended discussion with people who don’t really understand the development process, and less if you open a PR that actually implements a solution you want.
20:25:28  <pickpacket> The opinions about the mechanic differ, but expectation and reality differ more.
20:25:57  <pickpacket> talltyler: yeah, I'm trying to get the discussion focused on whether or not my suggested change is an improvement or not
20:27:20  <pickpacket> I wasn't as clear about that as I should have been from the start, sadly
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20:29:15  <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1121537402956165270/image.png
20:29:24  <andythenorth> grf has changed on disk
20:31:44  <peter1138> Build that version again :p
20:33:14  <andythenorth> worked
20:33:27  <andythenorth> save might be slightly broken as it was saved with newer grf
20:34:20  <andythenorth> "probably fine"
20:34:34  <pickpacket> "what could possibly go wrong?"
20:39:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh opened pull request #11060: Fix: FallbackParagraphLayouter reverse-mapping to characters https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11060
20:41:07  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh updated pull request #11060: Fix: Fallba

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