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01:56:45 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 02:08:58 *** tokai has joined #openttd 02:08:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 02:15:56 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 02:24:44 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 02:28:14 *** debdog has quit IRC 02:50:44 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 02:53:53 *** gnu_jj_ has quit IRC 04:42:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/01c75fc5781efd494a0bbe91dcbe435c838e660b 04:42:40 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 05:43:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc started discussion #12749: Can the version of OpenGFX affect gameplay beyond graphics? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12749 05:59:05 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 06:40:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ladysadie commented on pull request #12690: Feature: Add font resizing sliders to the game options UI. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12690#pullrequestreview-2092904114 06:41:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ladysadie commented on pull request #12690: Feature: Add font resizing sliders to the game options UI. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12690#pullrequestreview-2092905640 06:43:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on discussion #12749: Can the version of OpenGFX affect gameplay beyond graphics? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12749 06:43:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on discussion #12749: Can the version of OpenGFX affect gameplay beyond graphics? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12749 06:45:37 <LordAro> some of my colleagues would beg to differ 06:46:02 <LordAro> extrapolate? actually think about the change (request)? pah 07:10:29 <peter1138> ? 07:12:21 <pickpacket> hrrm. My if statement is all wrong 07:13:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/survey-web] survey-summary[bot] pushed 1 commits to main https://github.com/OpenTTD/survey-web/commit/d45e7b536db404c6f433933910963c21d8980064 07:13:05 <DorpsGek> - Add: summary for week 22 of 2024 (by OpenTTD Survey) 07:29:27 <peter1138> I'm spreading floats throughout the game, perfect. 07:48:49 <peter1138> Okay, it no longer blows up Xorg. 07:51:24 <peter1138> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1247095276888522752/image.png?ex=665ec77b&is=665d75fb&hm=3c592220cd1c9fe1462178d1a1cee779ed0f8c8519558d966ce8b6b71b1bafff& 07:51:24 <peter1138> This is not quite right 😄 07:51:47 <pickpacket> hate negated statements.. 07:53:46 <peter1138> (Last time I tried this branch was before I changed the meaining of ZOOM_LVL_NORMAL.) 07:54:45 <peter1138> It looks about 4x too small, which is most probably not a coincidence 😄 08:40:58 <LordAro> heh 08:41:08 <LordAro> clearly used the wrong constant before! 08:45:40 <peter1138> Yeah, 3c94e816 fixed that in master of course. 09:30:18 <peter1138> Build states for fishing grounds in FIRS 5 eh? 09:33:45 <johnfranklin> dinner was far more spicy than expected. icecream was consumed consequently. 09:35:45 <peter1138> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1247121538189365248/image.png?ex=665edff1&is=665d8e71&hm=2dc96259f2d574de748aba259e959d77ca77c602793e3aff79c333df65db5aa3& 09:35:45 <peter1138> Is this fine? 09:45:57 <LordAro> seems a bit wibbley 09:50:56 <peter1138> It's 1.5x scaling. 10:02:43 <dwfreed> truebrain: think I could talk you into supporting multiple channels in dibridge? <3 10:17:14 <andythenorth> peter1138: bulldozers at sea? 10:17:38 <andythenorth> peter1138: 'maybe' 10:17:40 <peter1138> Such piles of dirt. 10:18:32 <andythenorth> Horse sprites scale 'ok'. Train Whack has a scaling parameter in the query string https://grf.farm/iron-horse/3.21.0/html/train_whack.html?sprite_size_factor=1.5 10:25:50 <peter1138> That uses bilinear scaling it seems. 10:27:12 <andythenorth> wonder how much the browser decides 10:27:15 <peter1138> Even 2x there looks blurry. 10:27:34 <peter1138> There's a css property to tell it to not apply bilinear filtering. 10:27:57 <peter1138> `image-rendering: pixelated;` I believe. 10:28:06 <andythenorth> ooh 10:28:39 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1247134850205356032/image.png?ex=665eec56&is=665d9ad6&hm=59a8fb44a801bed29a8c8aee867faa63fa7c525b87505fdb20ea464f56b414a5& 10:28:39 <andythenorth> I get by default in Chrome 10:29:37 <peter1138> That image does not have sharp edges. 10:30:04 <peter1138> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1247135208654770286/image.png?ex=665eecac&is=665d9b2c&hm=7d6b1fc6b6e3a79ad9353ec03f0df5546c9e91f01646882273d40346eb75de82& 10:30:11 <andythenorth> pixelated rendering does indeed make it crisp 10:30:13 <andythenorth> thanks 10:30:54 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1247135419330596914/image.png?ex=665eecde&is=665d9b5e&hm=56d879f64c9102eff149c8a4282a7020f9c33ef81155d8163356f381883cf19a& 10:31:06 <peter1138> That does 🙂 10:33:48 <peter1138> And my scaling does not do bilinear interpolation. Maybe it should for 32bpp graphics. 10:34:35 <peter1138> MIght look bad when mixing them. 11:15:04 *** reldred has quit IRC 12:19:12 *** SigHunter has quit IRC 12:19:24 <talltyler> The new Simutrans release has Steam achievements 👀 12:19:40 *** SigHunter has joined #openttd 12:20:14 <talltyler> I wonder if they’re using plugins or just braver than we are about integrating Steam code into their codebase 12:21:27 <talltyler> I guess achievements would probably be possible with our plugin 12:22:07 <talltyler> Of course, the concern about not providing a different game to users on different platforms still applies 🙂 12:22:15 <squirejames> I've been suspicious of Steam code injections since they totally borked an old strategy game I play with their integrations and never fixed it 12:22:40 <squirejames> GoG and original CD versions work fine, Steam one constantly crashes 12:47:27 <truebrain> dwfreed: What do I get for it? 😄 12:47:55 <peter1138> A (tracking) cookie. 13:04:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 13:32:40 *** XYZ has joined #openttd 13:40:42 *** XYZ has quit IRC 13:45:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #12745: Upgrade: Bump Apple-Actions/import-codesign-certs from 2 to 3 in the actions group https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12745 13:51:00 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 14:05:25 *** XYZ has joined #openttd 14:13:27 *** XYZ has quit IRC 14:36:51 *** gelignite has quit IRC 14:44:18 <peter1138> I keep typing `nullptr` in my C# code... 14:51:30 <audigex> peter1138: Just throw a `private readonly Object nullptr = null;` in every class, problem solved 14:51:47 <audigex> Follow me for more weekly .NET tips 14:52:02 <peter1138> I think "solved" is doing heavy lifting there. 14:52:39 <audigex> https://tenor.com/view/office-the-bankruptcy-declare-gif-26483263 14:52:49 <audigex> Too late, solved 16:14:52 *** Ox7C5 has joined #openttd 16:23:36 <andythenorth> hi DiscordGPT 16:23:48 <andythenorth> OpenTTDGPT 16:23:48 *** _zephyris has joined #openttd 16:23:48 <_zephyris> peter1138: It's _ok_... Presumably doesn't come with newgrf 1.5x support 😉 16:24:19 <peter1138> Actually it does. 16:25:29 <peter1138> But good luck convincing GRFCodec/NML to handle it. 16:26:27 <peter1138> I fudged grf-py to do it. 16:26:35 <peter1138> But then I also have the SVG stuff. 16:26:54 <peter1138> Although SVG doesn't do "texture" very well. 16:28:39 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1247225448388235365/image.png?ex=665f40b7&is=665def37&hm=194c11973e4cf1dd474448c8ac1a2067cd82cc21486653b74d8876b532254d14& 16:28:39 <andythenorth> I am assigning industries on the map to GS-generated 'manufacturers'. Manufacturers have a category ('steelmaker', 'chemicals' etc), which governs which industry types they can 'own'. Manufacturers have a HQ town. Industries need to be distributed relatively evenly across the manufacturers in each category (for example there can be n steelmakers. Assignment of industries is from a list of al 16:28:39 <andythenorth> relevant candidates on the map. Candidates nearer the manufacturer's HQ town should be assigned to that manufacturer first. Different manufacturers in the same category can have the same HQ town. 16:28:39 <andythenorth> How do I do it? 16:29:08 <_zephyris> Ooh 16:30:59 *** Smedles has quit IRC 16:31:07 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 16:35:34 <andythenorth> I need some kind of partitioning thing, that will be deceptively simple when someone tells me what it is 😛 16:40:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12743: Codefix: Find GRF override entries properly. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12743#pullrequestreview-2094382943 16:41:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #12743: Codefix: Find GRF override entries properly. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12743#pullrequestreview-2094385861 16:41:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12748: Codechange: Pre-reserve vectors during NewGRF loading. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12748#pullrequestreview-2094386567 16:42:10 <andythenorth> so how about copying all the industries for category into n lists, for n manufacturers in the category. Then valuating each list by distance to 1 manufacturer. Then taking the first industry from the list for manufacturer A, and assigning it to manufacturer A, and removing it from all candidate lists. Then repeat for manufacturer B etc 16:52:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #12741: Add: Show house information in House Selection window. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12741#issuecomment-2145693062 16:53:39 <andythenorth> GPT proposed just using one list and resorting it for each current manufacturer as we loop through them 16:56:23 <andythenorth> it's written me some squirrel for it, although it's not squirrel not GS 16:59:24 <andythenorth> here's the while loop it wrote https://gist.github.com/andythenorth/e4dc0fbe1739c966662fdd56196e147f 16:59:33 <andythenorth> 'wrote' 16:59:46 *** Leopold_ has joined #openttd 17:00:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #12746: Fix: Editbox behaved poorly with RTL languages and when editing long text. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12746#pullrequestreview-2094394002 17:01:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #12746: Fix: Editbox behaved poorly with RTL languages and when editing long text. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12746#pullrequestreview-2094423744 17:06:40 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:40:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #12748: Codechange: Pre-reserve vectors during NewGRF loading. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12748 17:50:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] planetmaker commented on discussion #12749: Can the version of OpenGFX affect gameplay beyond graphics? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12749 17:53:36 <peter1138> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1247246826545877043/image.png?ex=665f54a0&is=665e0320&hm=d975f4c1018481defc6251d5d026f687e0bc1a4cd7a206868f1a3083c269996e& 17:53:36 <peter1138> Imagine if you could make graphics this good. 17:56:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc commented on discussion #12749: Can the version of OpenGFX affect gameplay beyond graphics? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12749 17:57:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc commented on discussion #12749: Can the version of OpenGFX affect gameplay beyond graphics? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12749 17:57:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc commented on discussion #12749: Can the version of OpenGFX affect gameplay beyond graphics? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12749 18:04:40 *** gelignite has quit IRC 18:05:58 <michi_cc> talltyler: Luckily, one can look: <https://github.com/aburch/simutrans/blob/master/src/steam/steam.cc> 18:05:58 <michi_cc> Apparently they are braver, but then Simutrans is not GPL. 18:07:09 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:08:46 <peter1138> Hmm, seems they still use svn and that just a git mirror, heh. 18:09:18 <peter1138> Although it has a failing CI 18:24:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #12746: Fix: Editbox behaved poorly with RTL languages and when editing long text. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12746 18:35:59 <andythenorth> hello OpenGPT 18:36:27 <andythenorth> how can I find which industries in a list are most remote from a specific list of towns 18:36:41 <andythenorth> i.e. those that are most isolated 18:40:10 <peter1138> Urgh, I need to sort my brakes out. 18:40:13 <peter1138> CBA. 18:42:13 <andythenorth> are they disc? 18:42:44 <peter1138> Yeha 18:43:04 <peter1138> Main issue is all the oil came out 18:43:10 <andythenorth> oops 18:43:21 <andythenorth> that will do it 18:44:15 <LordAro> can confirm 18:59:42 *** bigyihsuan has joined #openttd 18:59:43 <bigyihsuan> andythenorth: maybe take the distance of each industry to each town and take the largest? 18:59:43 <bigyihsuan> though that's `O(n*m)` in both space and time so probably not the best way of doing it 19:02:55 <bigyihsuan> andythenorth: maybe voronoi with points on each manufacturer's headquarter town (for each category) and prioritize assigning to the manufacturers industries within their headquarters cell? 19:06:33 <andythenorth> bigyihsuan: that was GPT's suggestion 19:07:31 <andythenorth> it is possible to break early for the case where another industry is already known to be more remote 19:11:49 <andriydohniak> andythenorth: what if you just reverse your algorythm, instead of spawning industries first, and then assigning them to the correct manufacturer, you just spawn them yourself close to every manufacturer 19:12:28 <bigyihsuan> andriydohniak: can game scripts even do that? 19:12:30 <andriydohniak> But I might have missunderstood the problem statement 19:12:41 <andriydohniak> bigyihsuan: They cant? 19:12:52 <bigyihsuan> where's those api docs, i need to check this 19:14:10 <andythenorth> andriydohniak: this is the alternative route 19:14:19 <andythenorth> but it requires clearing the map at game start 19:15:03 <andythenorth> and it requires reimplementing some of the core game's placement routine 19:15:23 <andythenorth> it's viable, but I suspect it will lead to a degradation of the grf 19:15:40 <andythenorth> as I will spend more time on the GS placement rules, and less time on the grf placement rules 19:16:06 <bigyihsuan> doing it on the gs side is probably not a good idea 19:16:53 <andriydohniak> andythenorth: Ok, can you from GS check if a tile is an industry? 19:17:48 <andriydohniak> If so, you can start with the list of manufactureres, and go in a spiral and "collecting" all unclaimed industries, untill you have enough per manufacturure 19:18:01 <bigyihsuan> bigyihsuan: https://docs.openttd.org/gs-api 19:18:16 <andriydohniak> How many times do you need to do that? Can you just store the result? If so, n**2 algorythm is fine 19:18:25 <bigyihsuan> looking at the docs, it looks like the api makes a list of industries public 19:19:03 <andythenorth> andriydohniak: I need a more or less equal distribution per manufacturer 19:20:00 <bigyihsuan> bigyihsuan: then you could probably sort by distance to a specific tile and go from there 19:20:21 <andriydohniak> andythenorth: yea, so you start with a number of manufactureres, for example 10, you have the number of industries of the correct type, for example 100, then you just go through each of the 10 industries, and spiriling collect 10 19:20:34 <andriydohniak> It won't be perfect, but it will be fine 19:20:57 <andriydohniak> The other option is to do voronoi, to make it actually perfect, but it's kinda hard 19:21:15 <andriydohniak> bigyihsuan: The spiral will do that too, so no need 19:21:48 <andythenorth> it needs to round-robin between manufacturers 19:21:58 <andriydohniak> andythenorth: it can 19:22:03 <andriydohniak> that shouldn't be hard 19:22:22 <andythenorth> there are two different challenges I'm trying to solve 19:22:33 <andriydohniak> but then the industries of manuf.. will overlap 19:22:40 <andythenorth> assigning industries by distance is relatively easy, it's probably about 15 lines 19:22:43 <andriydohniak> So they won't be segmented 19:22:52 <andythenorth> but finding the most remote industries seems very hard 19:22:56 <andythenorth> computationally 19:23:05 <andriydohniak> andythenorth: How often do you need to do that ? 19:23:13 <andythenorth> only once at game start 19:23:17 <bigyihsuan> andythenorth: https://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/89411/how-to-efficiently-compute-the-most-isolated-point 19:23:17 <bigyihsuan> maybe related 19:23:25 <andythenorth> but we can't predict map size or number of industries or towns 19:23:41 <andriydohniak> bigyihsuan: That is too expencive, here we are dealing with easy distances 19:23:53 <andriydohniak> andythenorth: give me a max bound 19:24:06 <andythenorth> 16k x 16k tiles 19:24:18 <andythenorth> not sure on number of industries or towns 19:24:32 <andythenorth> I made a JGRP map that took about 5 hours to generate 19:24:33 <bigyihsuan> andriydohniak: but it's only happening once at game start, so expensiveness isn't that important of a factor (yet) 19:24:50 <andriydohniak> andythenorth: Let's just say they are small towns, and you can't place them closer than ~50 tiles in between each other 19:24:51 <andythenorth> there are limited opcodes for GS 19:25:26 <andriydohniak> bigyihsuan: It's more expencive, and uselessly complicated, this is not a graph 19:25:40 <bigyihsuan> andythenorth: what's your definition of "most remote" 19:28:32 <andythenorth> furthest from any town in list of n towns 19:30:24 <andriydohniak> I don't get it, you have manufacturures, that want to have industries close by, what are the towns again? 19:31:27 <andythenorth> manufacturers have a HQ town, but that's an extraneous detail for the purposes of calculating 19:32:44 <bigyihsuan> andythenorth: so a list of industries that are "most remote", or just one industry? 19:32:58 <andriydohniak> I would recommend to start with the simplest solution possible: 19:32:58 <andriydohniak> - have a list of avilable industries 19:32:58 <andriydohniak> - iterate through all the manufacturures 19:32:58 <andriydohniak> - sort the list by proximity to the curr manuf 19:32:58 <andriydohniak> -while not enough industries for this manuf 19:32:59 <andriydohniak> - pop the top one in the list for itself 19:36:22 <andythenorth> yes 19:36:28 <andythenorth> that's also what GPT wrote 19:37:26 <andythenorth> I don't know how expensive the sort is 19:37:50 <andriydohniak> andythenorth: n logn 19:37:53 <andriydohniak> it's fine 19:38:08 <andriydohniak> and the distance compute is is O(1) 19:38:17 <andythenorth> well we have to calculate all the distances every time the sort is called 19:38:28 <andriydohniak> andythenorth: but that is O(n) 19:38:31 <andythenorth> 'probably fine'? 19:38:59 <bigyihsuan> the sort method doesn't have a complexity guarantee so that's fun: https://docs.openttd.org/gs-api/classGSList#a120b83e0e14eb8a695958cc13379b746 19:39:50 <andriydohniak> It's fine, at this scale you will hit other limitations way before time complexity problems with the sorting 19:40:39 <andriydohniak> And the total complexity is not n**2, because you are popping from the list 19:40:47 <bigyihsuan> if it were me i'd go with the simple solution first and optimize later 19:40:54 <andriydohniak> so it should still be n log n 19:41:48 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 19:50:25 <peter1138> Is the simple solution something like "spend 2 months trying to train ChatGPT to write GS first"? 19:56:02 <andythenorth> peter1138: can let you know in 7 weeks? 19:56:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc opened pull request #12750: Add: [Script] GSController::TriggerSave to trigger saves from game scripts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750 19:57:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc updated pull request #12750: Add: [Script] GSController::TriggerSave to trigger saves from game scripts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750 19:57:38 <truebrain> That ... is asking for a lot of trouble 19:58:09 <truebrain> That should not be part of the GS API 19:58:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc updated pull request #12750: Add: [Script] GSController::TriggerSave to trigger saves from game scripts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750 19:58:55 *** Ox7C5 has quit IRC 19:59:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc updated pull request #12750: Add: [Script] GSController::TriggerSave to trigger saves from game scripts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750 20:00:50 <LordAro> does it correctly limit it to GSes ? 20:02:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc commented on discussion #12496: Autosaving in game time rather than real time https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12496 20:03:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc updated pull request #12750: Add: [Script] GSController::TriggerSave to trigger saves from game scripts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750 20:06:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc updated pull request #12750: Add: [Script] GSController::TriggerSave to trigger saves from game scripts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750 20:08:00 <peter1138> This is very andy... trying to work around something by doing it in GS. 20:08:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #12750: Add: [Script] GSController::TriggerSave to trigger saves from game scripts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750#issuecomment-2146028033 20:08:53 <andythenorth> it's the next wave 20:09:05 <andythenorth> "this is the year of GS on the desktop" 20:10:04 *** michalc5706 has joined #openttd 20:10:04 <michalc5706> truebrain: Oh no! 20:10:16 <truebrain> We already have three places that do this .. console, rcon, adminprotocol .. we could better focus on improving those to supply this functionality, than to add a fourth 🙂 20:10:51 <truebrain> michalc5706: Sorry, not sure who steered you in this direction, but it really isn't a good idea (in my opinion) 20:11:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on pull request #12750: Add: [Script] GSController::TriggerSave to trigger saves from game scripts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750#issuecomment-2146033327 20:11:10 <michalc5706> truebrain: Er... I just steered myself! 20:11:28 <truebrain> GameScript should not be able to interact with the game like this .. Just imagine the DoS potential here 🙂 20:12:53 <truebrain> I once did fantasise about creating a Scripting addition for the console 20:13:03 <truebrain> Instead of the current console .. "langauge" 😛 20:13:18 <truebrain> ConsoleScript when? 🙂 20:13:34 <truebrain> ServerScript? 20:13:46 <truebrain> SudoScript? 😛 20:14:37 <truebrain> But more short term, maybe a nice idea to make a console command that triggers a console script every N ticks? 20:15:35 <peter1138> In a different language? Something obscure and obsolete, of course. 20:16:08 <peter1138> GameScript really means GameplayScript. 20:18:12 <truebrain> There is already a new-game console hook, that calls a script when a new game starts 20:18:51 <truebrain> So maybe better to have a "trigger <script> <interval-in-ticks>", which calls the console script after N ticks 20:19:02 <truebrain> If you want to repeat that, call it again in that script 20:19:16 <truebrain> "Script" .. they are just files with console commands to execute 😄 20:19:33 <truebrain> Not actual scripts like GS 20:19:59 <michalc5706> truebrain: Ah that is very almost what I would like, but I did actually like the save happening on the 1st of every month... so not _exactly_ a fixed amount of game ticks 20:20:19 <truebrain> So much demand 😛 😛 20:20:48 <_jgr_> michalc5706: If you're happy with saves being output at a fixed deterministic interval you can run with `-d desync=3` 20:20:56 <_jgr_> This will write saves to the autosave folder 20:21:10 <truebrain> `trigger bla.scr on-month-change` 😄 20:22:22 <truebrain> `schedule bla.scr */30 * * *` 20:22:22 <truebrain> `schedule bla.scr * 1 * *` 20:22:25 <truebrain> 😄 20:22:36 <truebrain> Not sure any of these are good ideas 😛 20:23:29 <truebrain> Ticks, day, month, year, was my imaginary units for schedule btw 20:25:29 <michalc5706> _jgr_: Oh will have a nose around the desync thing! 20:26:39 <truebrain> Btw, don't ask why the extension is scr .. I just don't want to talk about that 😛 20:27:03 <michalc5706> truebrain: I wonder if `trigger bla.scr monthly`? Is reasonable... can be added to later with daily or whatever 20:28:03 <truebrain> Either "trigger next month" or "schedule monthly", but yeah, console is a bit of a mess anyway. I wouldn't have an issue with that. 20:28:37 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:28:42 <michalc5706> Ah: so I don't need it for my case, but should there be a way of stopping the schedule? 20:29:01 <truebrain> That is why I like the trigger idea a bit more 20:29:13 <truebrain> You can set a new on in your script if you want to keep going 20:29:30 <michalc5706> Oh I see 20:29:36 <truebrain> There is no branching btw 20:29:41 <truebrain> So there is that 20:30:30 <michalc5706> To check something, do games progress during the script? It's not in a thread or anything like that? 20:30:51 <truebrain> Console is very old, like, very old 20:31:00 <truebrain> It runs in the game thread, blocking 20:31:08 <michalc5706> That is actually what I want! 20:31:35 <_glx_> but GS also run when game is paused 20:32:17 <_glx_> as it can pause and unpause 20:32:34 <michalc5706> _glx_: Ah I wasn't too conscious of that - but for my case I would have checked the game date before doing anything (but understood, Game Script is not the place for what I want) 20:33:01 <truebrain> GameplayScript would have been such a better name 😄 20:36:07 <michalc5706> Thanks for all your time! Next step: I will have a nose around the console code and see if I can add something (and close https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750) 20:36:27 <truebrain> No worries. Here to help (and judge 😛 ) 20:37:05 <michalc5706> Always happy for some (friendly!) judgement 😀 20:42:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc closed pull request #12750: Add: [Script] GSController::TriggerSave to trigger saves from game scripts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750 20:42:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc commented on pull request #12750: Add: [Script] GSController::TriggerSave to trigger saves from game scripts https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12750#issuecomment-2146086959 23:48:30 *** Flygon has quit IRC