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08:18:13 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 08:18:33 <Stablean> <sharpy> you said testing new stuff? 08:18:35 <Stablean> <V453000> sure 08:19:13 <Stablean> <V453000> well the staon is special from the scratch, the logics just support that :) 08:19:23 <Stablean> <V453000> without them the trains would just be looping around the ring 08:19:29 <Stablean> <V453000> and not join the platforms 08:19:31 <Stablean> <V453000> the logics force them there 08:20:09 <Stablean> <V453000> it is basically "just because" I want them to be able to go anywhere, which way it kind of re-balances the network 08:20:19 <Stablean> <sharpy> yeah 08:20:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> V, why is RV set to 200, cant it be higher? 08:20:43 <Stablean> <V453000> only lags server 08:20:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k 08:21:06 <Stablean> <sharpy> i love the cyclic design of it, means you can have a lot of trains circling waiting for space too 08:21:20 <Stablean> * greenlion has already reduced number of RVs from 200 to 165 :) 08:21:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P 08:21:56 <Stablean> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 08:23:28 <Stablean> <V453000> the best thing about unordered trains is that you sometimes cant really say what will they do :D 08:46:17 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 08:47:48 <Stablean> <V453000> hi Mks 08:49:54 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 08:51:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is there a tool of some sort to measure how many trains go over the rail 08:51:15 <Stablean> <V453000> no 08:51:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> in trains/month or so? 08:51:31 <Stablean> <V453000> you could make a train counter with logic 08:51:31 <Stablean> <greenlion> and waypoints does not count? 08:51:33 <Stablean> <V453000> but ... 09:27:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> V? 09:27:23 <Stablean> <V453000> yes? 09:27:46 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can you change a little rail forme? 09:27:56 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i want to build a tunnel 09:28:04 <Stablean> <V453000> if I new where 09:28:06 <Stablean> <V453000> knew 09:28:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but because of the height of your track 09:28:13 <Stablean> <V453000> oh that shit 09:28:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> see sign 09:28:33 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> even better 09:28:34 <Stablean> <V453000> even likethis 09:29:22 <Stablean> <V453000> oh, Mks going for Mono :O 09:29:46 <Stablean> <Mks> gona upgrade to maglev also later on 09:29:50 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 09:29:56 <Stablean> <Mks> wana see that new track 09:30:02 <Stablean> <V453000> its nice 09:30:08 <Stablean> <V453000> but upgrade all bridges before you do so 09:30:08 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh your logic gates are monorail :) 09:30:20 <Stablean> <Mks> I have upgraded all bridges now 09:30:22 <Stablean> <V453000> all bridges look the same on maglev 09:30:24 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 09:30:32 <Stablean> <V453000> well not all, just the ones that need speed 09:30:39 <Stablean> <V453000> (gates) 09:30:56 <Stablean> <Mks> only thing is I am not sure if I should use the dual loco or 2 single locos 09:31:06 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 09:31:12 <Stablean> <V453000> depends what you want to use :) 09:31:19 <Stablean> <Mks> well I want fast but 09:31:32 <Stablean> <Mks> on monorail for example the pax loco is so slow with cargo 09:31:40 <Stablean> <Mks> so not gona use that and it ain't much faster 09:31:42 <Stablean> <V453000> Z1 is quite a shit 09:31:46 <Stablean> <Mks> but on maglev its quite a bit diffrence 09:31:55 <Stablean> <Mks> and I belive the maglev loco isn't that bad either? 09:32:17 <Stablean> <V453000> depends what you like really 09:32:23 <Stablean> <Mks> speed :P 09:32:25 <Stablean> <V453000> but Lev3 is more practical 09:32:27 <Stablean> <V453000> I know :) 09:35:01 <Stablean> <Mks> is lev 4 good enough to replace two lev3? 09:35:13 <Stablean> <V453000> in what terms? :) 09:35:42 <Stablean> <Mks> or well rather is 09:36:00 <Stablean> <V453000> well if you have like 1x Lev3 or 1xLev4 for TL3, I would say they are equal in terms of cargo througput 09:36:10 <Stablean> <Mks> lev4 equally acceleration as 2 X2001? 09:36:34 <Stablean> <V453000> because you have 25% more capacity from the extra wagon for Lev3 ... and the speeds are 483 vs. 643 which is like 30% more for Lev4 09:36:44 <Stablean> <V453000> Lev4 acceleration is very bad :) 09:36:59 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (leaving) 09:37:11 <Stablean> <Mks> so better to have 2x lev3 then for acceleration? 09:37:15 <Stablean> <V453000> for sure 09:37:35 <Stablean> <V453000> even 1 Lev3 is much better than Lev4 in this regard 09:38:00 <Stablean> <Mks> I know the Z1 has really bad acceleration 09:38:14 <Stablean> <Mks> but all the maglev should be better? 09:38:17 <Stablean> <V453000> consider it as pax locomotive and ignore it for cargo :p 09:38:59 <Stablean> <V453000> well ... in compare with X2001 they might be a bit better 09:39:01 <Stablean> <V453000> but about the same 09:39:07 <Stablean> <V453000> in acceleration trail lengths 09:39:13 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 09:39:33 <Stablean> <V453000> (for Lev1,2,3) 09:39:43 <Stablean> <Mks> they should add a new track type vacum tubes :) 09:39:49 <Stablean> <V453000> lol 09:39:52 <Stablean> <Mks> for higher speed like 6000km/h 09:40:02 <Stablean> <V453000> use logic engine :) 09:40:08 <Stablean> <Mks> well you can't put wagons on that one 09:40:14 <Stablean> <V453000> you can 09:40:16 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh 09:42:26 <Stablean> <Mks> the logic train only goes in 99km/h 09:42:32 <Stablean> <Mks> is it a parameter for the speed? 09:42:34 <Stablean> <V453000> set parameter 09:43:32 <Stablean> <Mks> where to find out about parameters tho 09:43:40 <Stablean> <V453000> just set the speed you want 09:43:45 <Stablean> <V453000> it is in the info afaik 09:44:17 <Stablean> <Mks> ohhh 09:44:19 <Stablean> <Mks> nice 09:44:27 <Stablean> <Mks> is there any limit how fast a train can go? 09:44:31 <Stablean> <V453000> 65k I think 09:44:34 <Stablean> <V453000> not sure tho 09:47:37 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh 60k mm 09:47:45 <Stablean> <Mks> can hardly see the train when it passes by :P 09:47:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P 09:47:54 <Stablean> <V453000> pointless speed imo :) 09:48:00 <Stablean> <Mks> thought it does take a very long time to accelerate to 60k 09:48:02 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 60000 kph? 09:48:08 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 09:48:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which train is it? 09:48:47 <Stablean> <V453000> logic engine 09:49:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> in this game? 09:49:12 <Stablean> <V453000> no 09:49:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ahh 09:49:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still 60.000 kph 09:49:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> O.O 09:49:53 <Stablean> <Mks> ohhh 09:50:03 <Stablean> <Mks> 20 logic engine locos means instant 60 000 km/h :) 09:50:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :S 09:50:31 <Stablean> <V453000> TL12 = 2 wagons? :D 09:51:01 <Stablean> <Mks> no TL10 09:51:09 <Stablean> <Mks> and only locos 09:51:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so 20 locs = 1/5 speed of light? instantaneous? 09:51:46 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nobody would survive such g-forces 09:51:48 <Stablean> <V453000> light is 300k 09:51:48 <Stablean> <Mks> 60 km/h isn't 1/5 speed of light 09:51:58 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah light is 300 000 km/ second 09:52:03 <Stablean> <Mks> so quite far from that 09:52:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it was 60.000 kph 09:52:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah 09:52:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> never mind 09:52:25 <Stablean> <Mks> 09:53:48 <Stablean> <Mks> I don't really get your station V 09:54:05 <Stablean> <Mks> why don't trains enter the closests empty plattform 09:54:11 <Stablean> <Mks> only seem to wana enter some of them 09:54:14 <Stablean> <V453000> cause they dont go there actually? :) 09:54:42 <Stablean> <V453000> the station isnt done completely btw 09:54:45 <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh 09:54:54 <Stablean> <V453000> north and east are incomplete 09:54:54 <Stablean> <Mks> sure is a big station :P 09:55:16 <Stablean> <V453000> no, the size is kept, only some details are missing 09:55:41 <Stablean> <Mks> well station it self isn't quite big still but I mean all the tracks for the station makes it take up ALOT of space 09:55:59 <Stablean> <V453000> good :) 09:57:35 <Stablean> <Mks> I noticed some strange thigns of your station 09:57:45 <Stablean> <V453000> thats possible :) 09:57:46 <Stablean> <Mks> there are several plattforms free at the same spot they enter 09:58:00 <Stablean> <Mks> but they still queue up for the filled ones 09:58:03 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 09:58:23 <Stablean> <Mks> is it really suppose to work like that? 09:58:33 <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt supposed to do anything against it :) 09:58:36 <Stablean> <V453000> almost 09:58:46 <Stablean> <V453000> it is supposed to work :) any possible way 09:58:56 <Stablean> <V453000> this is quite ok 09:59:18 <Stablean> <Mks> whats that extra rail piece just before the plattform for? 09:59:28 <Stablean> <V453000> to make it work :) 09:59:32 <Stablean> <V453000> pathfinder fucking 09:59:39 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh 09:59:46 <Stablean> <Mks> so if you remove that it won't work? 09:59:50 <Stablean> <V453000> indeed 09:59:57 <Stablean> <Mks> strange 10:00:09 <Stablean> <V453000> lost trains :) 10:00:27 <Stablean> <V453000> look !here 10:00:29 <Stablean> <V453000> I will remove it temporarily 10:00:39 <Stablean> <V453000> they will deadlock 10:00:42 <Stablean> <Mks> ok 10:00:46 <Stablean> <V453000> when someone comes -.- 10:00:46 <Stablean> <Mks> lets se some trains 10:01:40 <Stablean> <V453000> see 10:01:48 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 10:01:50 <Stablean> <V453000> possible solutions: 10:01:53 <Stablean> <V453000> a) PBS 10:01:57 <Stablean> <V453000> see what happens now 10:02:17 <Stablean> <V453000> I will unjam it first 10:02:51 <Stablean> <V453000> well now they are supposed to break :) 10:02:53 <Stablean> <V453000> like this 10:02:57 <Stablean> <V453000> until other train comes 10:03:13 <Stablean> <Mks> why don't they leave station now 10:03:19 <Stablean> <V453000> it is a "bug" 10:03:47 <Stablean> <V453000> the "" is because devs did it on purpose ... kind of 10:03:51 <Stablean> <Mks> so in this case a PBS won't work 10:03:54 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 10:04:02 <Stablean> <V453000> and with any other lost trains PBS does the same 10:04:11 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh yes I've noticed 10:04:28 <Stablean> <V453000> one of the reasons why not to use PBS at the current stage ... 10:05:27 <Stablean> <Mks> so basicilly PBS if you have orders check the entire way to the end at once and if something isn't right the trains just acts dumb? 10:05:38 <Stablean> <V453000> well quite 10:05:44 <Stablean> <V453000> but the "get dumb" can happen very easily 10:05:54 <Stablean> <V453000> for example if your train goes to autoreplace in a depot 10:06:00 <Stablean> <V453000> and cant get back from it 10:06:04 <Stablean> <V453000> it will deadlock forever 10:06:21 <Stablean> <V453000> just because lost trains are treated that way 10:06:26 <Stablean> <Mks> you mean like it goes to a depot nextbefore a terminus station? 10:06:31 <Stablean> <V453000> it is retarded, it breaks the game, but devs consider it right 10:06:34 <Stablean> <V453000> anywhere 10:06:37 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 10:06:47 <Stablean> <Mks> why do they think its right? 10:06:49 <Stablean> <V453000> but there isnt a straight path for the pathfinder from the depot to the destination 10:07:04 <Stablean> <Mks> I mean if I am not entierly misstaken it haven't always worked like that has it? 10:07:16 <Stablean> <V453000> it was changed because of some other """"bug"""" (someone just built wrongly and it was considered a bug) 10:07:26 <Stablean> <V453000> It never worked that way 10:07:36 <Stablean> <V453000> until like ~r19600? 10:07:42 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont remember the exact number :) 10:07:48 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 10:08:10 <Stablean> <Mks> I mean I still think if a train is lost it should at least take a path thats possible to go 10:08:16 <Stablean> <V453000> exactly 10:08:18 <Stablean> <V453000> that would make sense 10:08:48 <Stablean> <V453000> the problem is ... nothing was fixed but PBS now breaks 10:09:18 <Stablean> <Mks> well its the same if you forgot to upgrade 1 tile to erail trains can get really stuck then 10:09:28 <Stablean> <Mks> and since they don't go there can be hard to find 10:10:22 <Stablean> <V453000> quite 10:10:36 <Stablean> <V453000> but I would consider that "just a network mistake" 10:10:54 <Stablean> <V453000> where who has all autoreplace depots able to go anywhere else on the network? 10:11:24 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 10:11:26 <Stablean> *** Marian323 joined the game 10:11:34 <Stablean> <Marian323> hello ;d 10:11:44 <Stablean> <Mks> hi 10:11:50 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 10:12:26 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 10:12:32 <Stablean> *** Marian323 has left the game (leaving) 10:12:36 <Stablean> <V453000> bye ;o 10:14:16 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 10:14:33 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 10:14:44 <Stablean> <Mks> only orderless network I've ever built is a pax city network 10:14:47 <Stablean> <Mks> with maglev trains 10:14:59 <Stablean> <Mks> and it didn't use logics :P 10:15:01 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 10:15:53 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont mind building logics :) 10:16:11 <Stablean> <Mks> well I've had them explained sometime but still 10:16:29 <Stablean> <Mks> not sure how to build them :) 10:16:31 <Stablean> <Mks> mm 10:16:41 <Stablean> <V453000> you need to know what you want to do :) 10:16:43 <Stablean> <Mks> a full trains is waiting to load at a station now :P 10:16:49 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 10:16:56 <Stablean> <V453000> I disconnected one part of the drop badly 10:17:02 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 10:17:06 <Stablean> <V453000> should work now 10:17:45 <Stablean> <Mks> I don't even know what your logic trains do :) 10:17:52 <Stablean> <V453000> depends which one :p 10:18:00 <Stablean> <Mks> at the loading stations 10:18:06 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 10:18:12 <Stablean> <V453000> well when trains have no orders they dont have full load 10:18:24 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 10:18:26 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah I get the part for the dummy train 10:18:36 <Stablean> <V453000> so the logic trains release them into the station, when there is enough cargo for them :) easy 10:18:38 <Stablean> <Mks> it full loads and unloads 10:18:56 <Stablean> <V453000> and when the dummy train loads, it goes past the 2way signal and the NOT gate blocks ... tha way it releases them 10:19:09 <Stablean> <V453000> look at it for a little, it should be clear :) 10:19:57 <Stablean> <Mks> so the dummy train has 9 wagons? 10:19:59 <Stablean> <V453000> yeeey, I have Eastern quarter done as well now :) one last sector od the drop 10:20:02 <Stablean> <V453000> 12 10:20:04 <Stablean> <V453000> 4x3 10:20:09 <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh 10:20:21 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 10:20:45 <Stablean> <Mks> what would happen if you build the loading station without the logic gate? 10:20:49 <Stablean> <Mks> it wouldn't work? 10:21:09 <Stablean> <V453000> it would 10:21:19 <Stablean> <V453000> it is like for example Plundwood Station #194 10:21:22 <Stablean> <V453000> but see station ratings 10:21:37 <Stablean> <V453000> 50 vs 70-80% 10:21:59 <Stablean> <V453000> the logic design is just faster :) 10:22:43 <Stablean> <Mks> well how does the 194 station worsk 10:22:45 <Stablean> <Mks> works 10:22:51 <Stablean> <V453000> simply 10:22:54 <Stablean> <Mks> I mean trains seem to load at plundwood valley? 10:22:56 <Stablean> <V453000> there are 3 steam locos 10:23:03 <Stablean> <V453000> those load at Plundwood Valley 10:23:05 <Stablean> <V453000> ye 10:23:15 <Stablean> <V453000> then they wait until they are all loaded 10:23:17 <Stablean> <V453000> at the middle area 10:23:32 <Stablean> <V453000> and when they are all loaded, they go to drop, where at the same time the loading trains are released 10:23:45 <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh 10:23:53 <Stablean> <V453000> you can see that all 3 of the Plundwood Valley platforms are 1 signal block 10:24:03 <Stablean> <Mks> does station rating affect when you do transfers? 10:24:13 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 10:24:19 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think so 10:24:23 <Stablean> <Mks> well 194 has quite bad station rating 10:24:29 <Stablean> <Mks> but plundwood valley has decent 10:24:44 <Stablean> <V453000> because nobody is in 194 for a long time as you can see :) 10:24:54 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 10:25:01 <Stablean> <V453000> whereas they are almos still at the Valley 10:25:11 <Stablean> <V453000> thats the only thing really 10:25:17 <Stablean> <V453000> it works quite fine :) 10:25:35 <Stablean> <V453000> although in larger scale I like to make the logic ones rather 10:25:46 <Stablean> <V453000> maybe just a prefference :) 10:26:09 <Stablean> <Mks> well both seem to take up some land area 10:26:15 <Stablean> <V453000> see our PSG 180 if you want to see an unordered network :) 10:26:18 <Stablean> <Mks> tho I think the non logic takes up more 10:26:38 <Stablean> <Mks> isn't 180 an old game? 10:26:56 <Stablean> <V453000> well 193 is current 10:27:30 <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh 10:27:33 <Stablean> <Mks> not that old then :P 10:27:43 <V453000> @psgsave 180 10:27:43 <Webster> PSG 180 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_171_-_180#gameid_180 10:27:51 <Stablean> <Mks> I belive unorderd networks been done before? 10:28:04 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 10:28:15 <V453000> not in large scale 10:28:15 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 10:28:23 <Stablean> <V453000> or ... not totally unordered 10:28:57 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 10:29:00 <Stablean> <V453000> there is still quite a difference between no orders, one (unload) order, and never rechable orders 10:29:39 <Stablean> <Mks> is there anyway to make an unordered network with diffrent types of trains 10:29:47 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 10:29:51 <Stablean> <Mks> like coal+ wood on the same tracks 10:29:53 <Stablean> <V453000> different train lengths 10:30:12 <Stablean> <V453000> but well ... there is no real point in that 10:30:28 <Stablean> <V453000> for example we had already 2200 wood trains 10:30:34 <Stablean> <V453000> why would you need something else :) 10:30:50 <Stablean> <V453000> (plus 800 logic trains :D ) 10:31:32 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:31:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:31:32 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 10:34:10 <Stablean> <Mks> your sawmill stations looks nice 10:34:16 <Stablean> <Mks> but its just a big mess for me :P 10:34:18 <Stablean> <Mks> well 10:34:24 <Stablean> <Mks> I an follow parts of it 10:34:32 <Stablean> <V453000> Troy: tunneled the last part of the rails that you needed to bridge over !here 10:34:44 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 10:35:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thx 10:35:18 <Stablean> <V453000> yw 10:35:28 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont really need the throughput there :) 10:36:07 <Stablean> <V453000> as for !this, if you moved your tracks one tile to the north, I could bridge over 10:36:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> workin on it 10:37:15 <Stablean> <V453000> happitrainz :) 10:38:12 <Stablean> <V453000> im starting to hate those trees 10:53:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 10:53:41 <Stablean> <V453000> food calls 10:53:45 <Stablean> *** kuch3n joined the game 10:53:57 <Stablean> <V453000> and kuch3n comes :D 10:53:59 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 11:03:48 <Stablean> <V453000> kuch3n: I bent your tracks a bit near New Sleburg Halt ;) 11:03:58 <Stablean> <V453000> needed space :) 11:04:22 <Stablean> <V453000> yez 11:04:38 <Stablean> <V453000> no 11:04:40 <Stablean> <V453000> leave it 11:04:43 <Stablean> <V453000> its fine already 11:04:49 <Stablean> <V453000> I joined your company before 11:04:53 <Stablean> <V453000> and modified it a little 11:04:57 <Stablean> <V453000> just telling you :) 11:05:01 <Stablean> <kuch3n> ok :) 11:05:07 <Stablean> <V453000> :D wtf is this 11:05:15 <Stablean> <V453000> omg-.- 11:05:17 <Stablean> <kuch3n> :D 11:05:23 <Stablean> <kuch3n> looks amazing ;) 11:05:30 <Stablean> <V453000> not rly :) 11:05:50 <Stablean> <V453000> but well, as long as you are happy :P 11:06:08 <Stablean> <kuch3n> and as long you are, too ;) 11:06:18 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont care about that really :) 11:06:36 <Stablean> <V453000> as long as the bridge doesnt crash down onto my trainies :P 11:06:44 <Stablean> <kuch3n> give me a sec.. 11:16:27 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 11:17:31 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 11:18:16 <Stablean> <kuch3n> Troy McClure: U need more Signals !here 11:18:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ty 11:20:51 <Stablean> <kuch3n> what is srn? 11:21:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> probably has something to do withh logic 11:21:23 <greenlion> self-regulating network? 11:21:31 <Stablean> <kuch3n> ic 11:21:49 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined spectators 11:28:26 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 11:28:48 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 11:33:00 *** Nite has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:33:19 <Nite> anyone playing on this server? 11:33:26 <kuch3n_> yes 11:33:54 <Nite> iam still banned here 4 no reason sadly 11:34:11 <Stablean> <kuch3n> i dont think ure banned 4 no reason 11:34:23 <Stablean> *** Iñaki_Bilbao joined the game 11:34:39 <planetmaker> !playercount 11:34:39 <Stablean> planetmaker: Number of players: 6 (4 spectators) 11:34:39 <Nite> thats the prob - iam banned so it must be a reason 11:35:10 <Nite> until some generous admin unbans me - no play :( 11:35:48 <planetmaker> we don't ban for no reason 11:36:11 <Nite> well i was blocked yesterday 11:36:23 <Nite> but since the blocker himself first complained 11:36:42 <SmatZ> !rules 11:36:45 <SmatZ> hmm :p 11:36:56 <Nite> the decision was that i should have sensed that he (the blocker) wanted to build there first 11:37:24 <Nite> it lasted in a huge missunderstanding between me and V453 ... 11:37:39 <Nite> resultet in a kickban ... 11:38:20 <planetmaker> and when approx. (time) has that been? 11:38:38 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 11:38:40 <Nite> sometime yesterday afternoon 11:38:47 <planetmaker> which time zone? 11:38:58 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 11:39:01 <Nite> GMT 11:39:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it was about 1955 11:39:21 <Nite> oh GMT +1 11:39:50 <Nite> ah it was you troy i had teh "fight" with? 11:40:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you were blockin and after that... unkind i would say 11:40:27 <Nite> i was NOT blocking 11:40:35 <Nite> you blocked my station 11:40:44 <Nite> because you didnt like the station there 11:40:45 <kuch3n_> starting again.. 11:40:55 <planetmaker> no point arguing :-) 11:40:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i dont want to do this all over again 11:41:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> V=admin, he banned you 11:41:12 <Nite> you dont want because you know you where wrong 11:41:32 <Nite> you where lucky 11:41:37 <Nite> i had bad luck 11:41:39 <planetmaker> Troy, I might just extend that to you, too ;-) 11:42:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, you pissed of the admin, that is not bad luck 11:42:19 <Nite> i dont want a fight again 11:42:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ill keep shush 11:42:47 <Nite> you daont think a complete ban was hard there 11:43:06 <Nite> iam sure we could have worked it out gameplay wise 11:43:17 <Nite> as there was much space on the map !? 11:43:24 <planetmaker> It may be. But we have to keep our sanity 11:43:54 <kuch3n_> Nite: Ask for unban. 11:44:28 <Nite> guess what iam trying to archeive here 11:44:36 <SmatZ> Nite: this way you won't be unbanned - come back after some time, say "I am sorry for what I did, I won't do that again", and you might have chance 11:44:49 <SmatZ> this way you are asking for ban from this place as well 11:44:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> V is lunching, he should be back soon 11:44:59 <Nite> i also ask admins to look at situatuions closely before a quick ban 11:45:22 <planetmaker> we usually do so 11:45:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I suggest everybody waits for him 11:45:35 <planetmaker> Besides you said yourself that "there are sufficient servers out there" 11:45:50 <Nite> i odnt know "V" is he normally fair? 11:45:50 *** planetmaker has left #openttdcoop.stable 11:45:51 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:45:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 11:46:55 <Nite> and about sanity: "Welcome to the depths of insanity" is a quote from yours ;) 11:46:57 <planetmaker> you don't have to know any of us. We are fair by definition ;-) 11:47:16 <Nite> that is what worries me 11:47:33 <planetmaker> Why do you worry about our server? 11:48:01 <planetmaker> we could just password-protect it and only let "our buddies" play here 11:48:07 <Nite> i think building a station exactly in front of another one that was there first 11:48:13 <Nite> is blocking 11:48:33 <planetmaker> it is. But I wasn't there and I trust V's judgement 11:48:55 <Nite> ok have to try this another way 11:49:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> No, wait for V, if you re so keen 11:49:31 <Nite> i would have discussed the lets say "unclear" situation but was kickbanned instead of given any chance 11:49:41 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 11:49:57 <SmatZ> Nite: you told V453000 "F*** YOU" (without the ***) 11:49:59 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 11:50:10 <Nite> for me it was more an an "UNwelcome" server ... ;) 11:50:14 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 11:50:26 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 joined the game 11:50:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> no, wait for v 11:50:46 <Nite> i did shortly after kickban 11:50:52 <planetmaker> Nite, I read what you said. The ban is well justified 11:50:54 <Stablean> *** Iñaki_Bilbao has started a new company (#9) 11:51:00 <Nite> but u know V is also not short on swearing 11:51:03 <planetmaker> Abusing others is not tolerable in any case. 11:52:05 <Nite> well i will not discuss the use of the F word deeply now 11:52:23 <V453000> hi guys :) 11:52:28 <Ammler> the word alone does make a kban legal 11:52:32 <Nite> iam out, and back later, see if peace wins ;) 11:52:51 <Ammler> no matter what happen else 11:52:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> hi v 11:53:06 <planetmaker> hi V453000 & Ammler 11:53:13 <Nite> well i dont think this word is to bad, after all sex shouldnt be the enemy ... 11:53:16 <planetmaker> and hi SmatZ :-) 11:53:25 <SmatZ> hello planetmaker :)_ 11:53:35 <Ammler> I don't think that was related to sex 11:53:36 <Nite> Hi V (sure you remember me) 11:53:47 <Nite> no it wasnt it was swearing 11:53:55 <V453000> the ban was because of: a) this person was here a few times and always there were at least some conflicts with others, b) he just started building right in the city where Troy was just building, of course the rest of the map was free 11:54:12 <V453000> I dont realy care about swear words :p just words as any other 11:54:31 <Nite> i just figured it was a good starting point in realtively large towns ... 11:54:36 <Nite> and so i started there 11:55:10 <Nite> troy complained and blocked me, i complained back, you kicked me, i swear (the F word) ... 11:55:12 <V453000> yea so that where someone grows a city for some time and cares abou it, you come and ruin it 11:55:39 <Nite> you missunderstand me 11:55:58 <Nite> i care about clean gameplay and not blocking towns 11:56:01 <V453000> then explain yourself better because I think I can see it clear :) 11:57:02 <Nite> well i try to explain, burt i almost think that u make fun of it not giving me chances ... 11:57:41 <Stablean> *** Chimera has left the game (connection lost) 11:57:52 <Nite> and i have to go out now ... but i will be back and hope that u simply forget it, peace out, and unban me ... 11:58:21 <Nite> cya 11:58:33 <Stablean> *** Iñaki_Bilbao has left the game (leaving) 11:59:03 <V453000> "I hope you forget it, unban me. " :D 11:59:08 <V453000> sorry but that is just ridiculous :) 11:59:13 *** Nite has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** SmatZ sets mode: +b *!*~5472b1fc@* 11:59:29 <SmatZ> hmm I was too slow 11:59:33 <V453000> :D 11:59:46 <planetmaker> keep it despite 12:05:29 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 12:06:20 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} joined the game 12:09:47 <kuch3n_> when does this server restart? 12:10:10 <planetmaker> the same time as usual. Don't you know meanwhile? 12:10:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> im quite new, when is that? 2100? 12:10:57 <kuch3n_> planetmaker: nope :o 12:11:09 <Stablean> <V453000> expect about 2100 :) 12:11:16 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> k 12:11:17 <kuch3n_> now i do :> 12:11:17 <Stablean> <V453000> but in general it is just when the game is done 12:11:22 <planetmaker> "when the map is done" ;-) 12:11:27 <V453000> :) 12:11:31 <kuch3n_> "done"? 12:11:34 <Ammler> or when V is around :-) 12:11:40 <planetmaker> hehe 12:11:48 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> and how do you decide when the map/game is done? 12:12:11 <Ammler> you tell us :-) 12:12:13 <kuch3n_> everything connected? 12:12:14 <planetmaker> mood, stomach feeling, time of day, demand, constellations... 12:12:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> :P 12:12:25 <V453000> :) 12:12:39 <Ammler> weather :-P 12:13:16 <V453000> Ammler: too, when there is bad weather, more people play :p 12:13:22 <Stablean> *** greenlion joined the game 12:13:35 <planetmaker> actually I think the only thing having NO influence are the celectial constellations ;-) 12:13:40 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 12:13:59 <Ammler> or server crashes 12:14:07 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined company #3 12:26:02 <Stablean> <greenlion> V, are you replacing your trains again? 12:32:50 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined company #5 12:33:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> greenlion? 12:33:23 <Stablean> <greenlion> V, trains seem not to reach your east stations 12:33:35 <Stablean> <kuch3n> where? 12:34:19 <Stablean> <greenlion> Canville South, Canville Woods and Little Pruntbourne Bridge Halt 12:34:45 <Stablean> <kuch3n> its called snr 12:34:47 <Stablean> <kuch3n> srn 12:35:04 <Stablean> <kuch3n> have a look at the blog 12:35:25 <Stablean> <Mks> I don't think V finnished the station yet 12:35:44 <Stablean> <kuch3n> Troy McClure #1: u need more signals at new sleburg, same as the one before 12:36:10 <Stablean> <greenlion> yes, and this bad snr if trains are not going to all stations :) some trains went east now, though 12:38:35 <Stablean> *** jor[D]1 has left the game (connection lost) 12:46:08 <Stablean> <Mks> your train crashed greenlion 12:46:15 <Stablean> <greenlion> yeah :) 12:48:15 <Stablean> <Mks> heh another crash 12:48:25 <Stablean> <greenlion> not mine this time :) 12:48:29 <Stablean> <kuch3n> mine :( 12:48:36 <Stablean> <kuch3n> at new sleburg 12:51:11 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (leaving) 12:55:22 <Stablean> <kuch3n> Troy McClure #1: Tuningley is a way ineffectiv 12:55:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> what do you mean? 12:57:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> but can it handle this train density? 12:57:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> plus, its not that i have much space here 12:59:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> works for short trains, since this is max station spread=10 12:59:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> that stepped wise wouldnt work too well 12:59:39 <Stablean> <V453000> Mks: cool eh :) 12:59:53 <Stablean> <V453000> hmm 12:59:57 <Stablean> <V453000> some tiles under bridges are bad 13:00:21 <Stablean> <Mks> my maglev conversion you mean? 13:00:29 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 13:00:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> ahh, no, i want maglev 13:00:42 <Stablean> <V453000> the bridges are unluckily broken 13:00:46 <Stablean> <kuch3n> Troy McClure #1: the 3 lines join one line. 13:01:00 <Stablean> <Mks> well they look nice the bridges? 13:01:10 <Stablean> <V453000> might be opengfx 13:01:11 <Stablean> <V453000> sec 13:01:13 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:01:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> what 3 lines? 13:01:16 <Stablean> <Mks> ah I see under bridges 13:01:19 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah that looks a bit strange 13:01:31 <Stablean> <Mks> funny thing tho 13:01:40 <Stablean> <Mks> if you press see through thingie 13:01:41 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 13:01:44 <Stablean> <Mks> then they all look good even under bridges 13:01:50 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 13:01:56 <Stablean> <V453000> but with it visible they dont 13:02:33 <Stablean> <V453000> hmm 13:02:35 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 13:02:41 <Stablean> <Mks> so must be a bug in the newgrf? 13:02:48 <Stablean> <kuch3n> just suggesting 13:02:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> yeah, thanks for that 13:03:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> i appreciate it 13:03:17 <Stablean> <V453000> hmm weird 13:03:41 <Stablean> <V453000> I think it collides with some other newgrf 13:03:45 <Stablean> <V453000> sec I will find out which 13:03:48 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:03:56 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> but to be honest most of the time the most tracks are occupied 13:04:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> the pbs is not working very bad 13:04:28 <V453000> PBS is bad by default :p 13:04:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> uhm, no not by default 13:05:08 <V453000> as I thought ... UK roads break the railset 13:05:12 <V453000> due to unknown reasons :) 13:05:16 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh strange 13:05:35 <Stablean> <Mks> why should that affect the bridges over anything except maybe the roads 13:05:44 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 13:05:45 <V453000> no idea :) 13:06:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> unlike your sawmill station, at any given time, more tracks are occupied at tuningley 13:06:07 <Stablean> <V453000> hm 13:06:18 <planetmaker> narrow gauge rails? 13:06:26 <Stablean> <V453000> pm: no, the new maglev set 13:06:32 <planetmaker> shanghai? 13:06:36 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 13:06:40 <Stablean> <V453000> bridge sprites break with UK roads 13:06:51 <Stablean> <V453000> no idea why 13:07:28 <planetmaker> he replaces bridges. Which is a bad idea [tm] 13:07:36 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 13:08:24 <Stablean> <Mks> well the bridges do look nice otherwise 13:11:21 <Stablean> <V453000> I can reload the game without the roads if you want 13:11:30 <Stablean> <kuch3n> or restart hrhr 13:11:32 <Stablean> <V453000> here are enough people to keep the passwords for companies :) 13:11:34 <Stablean> *** Spike joined the game 13:11:53 <Stablean> <Mks> doesn't matter really 13:15:53 <Stablean> <V453000> lets reload 13:15:54 <Stablean> <V453000> saving now 13:16:00 <Stablean> <kuch3n> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :> 13:16:20 <Stablean> <kuch3n> well all die 13:17:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> are we reloading? 13:17:20 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah I wana know cause I need to add trains otherwise 13:17:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> is last save already made? 13:18:15 <Stablean> <Mks> it might have been saved if he needs to change the save some 13:18:30 <Stablean> <V453000> I already said ... 13:18:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> im about to change to maglev 13:18:59 <V453000> !getsave http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/StableTemp12fix.sav 13:18:59 <Stablean> V453000: OK :-) 13:19:02 <V453000> !rcon ls 13:19:02 <Stablean> V453000: 0) .. (Parent directory) 13:19:02 <Stablean> V453000: 1) StableTemp12fix.sav 13:19:03 <Stablean> V453000: 2) StableTemp12.sav 13:19:03 <Stablean> V453000: 3) StableTemp11.sav 13:19:03 <Stablean> V453000: 4) StableTemp10.sav 13:19:03 <Stablean> V453000: you have 62 more messages 13:19:05 <V453000> !rcon load 1 13:19:10 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 13:19:17 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 13:19:19 <kuch3n_> join faster guys 13:19:23 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 13:19:25 <Stablean> *** kuch3n joined the game 13:19:28 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 13:19:29 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 13:19:30 <Stablean> *** kuch3n has joined company #8 13:19:33 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 13:19:35 <Stablean> *** Spike joined the game 13:19:36 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #4 13:19:36 <V453000> !rcon unpause 13:19:38 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (manual) 13:19:43 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #2 13:19:55 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #3 13:20:07 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #7 13:20:15 <Stablean> <V453000> set your passwords btw 13:20:19 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 13:20:29 <Stablean> <kuch3n> ive already stolen all your money 13:20:40 <Stablean> <V453000> people who werent here have "pass" please tell them if Iam not around when they join 13:21:06 <Stablean> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 13:39:56 <Stablean> <Mks> seems like I recently upgraded to monorail and now again lots of job to replace all trains 13:40:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> It doesnt have to be that difficult 13:40:23 <Stablean> *** Iñaki_Bilbao joined the game 13:40:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you already had maglev in test fase 13:40:42 <Stablean> *** Iñaki_Bilbao has left the game (leaving) 13:40:46 <Stablean> <Mks> you need to replace your bridges 13:40:50 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah I know 13:40:56 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i replaced all my vehicles already 13:41:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yea, bridges i still need to do 13:41:49 <Stablean> <Mks> your using 1 loco on those long trains of yours I am using 2 on my short trains :P 13:42:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i have a standard coal train: 14 long 13:42:27 <Stablean> <Mks> well my trains are 6 long 13:42:30 <Stablean> <Mks> with dual locos :P 13:42:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so i copied that one and copied the orders from existing trains 13:42:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yea, but you can just clone them right? 13:43:05 <Stablean> <Mks> well I know you can copy and stuff but still lots of clickng to replace 300 trains 13:43:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah but inserting every order by hand is even more inefficient 13:43:52 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 13:43:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still, good luck 13:44:35 <Stablean> <Mks> you have a bit to many trains at some stations if you ask me :) 13:44:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, thats the downside 13:45:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> faster livery, you dont know how much to copy 13:45:13 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah way to many at some station 13:45:22 <Stablean> <Mks> well I copy some then add more when needed 13:45:23 <Stablean> <Mks> to not have to many 13:45:34 <Stablean> <Mks> your train is blocking the line 13:45:38 <Stablean> <Mks> due to way to many 13:45:52 <Stablean> <Mks> at west great grenfingpool 13:46:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> seen it 13:46:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that mine used to be 2000 13:46:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> now its 1500 13:46:52 <Stablean> <Mks> these trains travel 2x the speed of the old ones tho 13:46:58 <Stablean> <Mks> so you don't need quite as many now 13:47:16 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, so im discarding some now 13:48:45 <Stablean> <Mks> kuch3n at sign !here your missing a piece of the track 13:55:41 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined spectators 13:57:05 <SmatZ> !ip 13:57:05 <Stablean> SmatZ: stable.openttdcoop.org:3999 13:57:48 <Stablean> *** SmatZ joined the game 13:58:46 <Stablean> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 13:58:52 <SmatZ> :D @ logic trains going backwards 13:59:51 <Stablean> *** greenlion joined the game 14:07:25 <V453000> :) 14:16:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> V? shouldnt you be upgrading too? 14:18:26 <Stablean> <V453000> why should I 14:18:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> um, dont know 14:18:46 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> faster? 14:18:49 <Stablean> <V453000> so? 14:18:59 <Stablean> <V453000> what does speed give me 14:19:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a rush? 14:19:27 <Stablean> <V453000> ... 14:20:56 <Stablean> <V453000> no, I will not upgrade :p 14:21:34 <Stablean> <greenlion> troy, remove signals from your loop :) 14:22:10 <Stablean> <greenlion> need to start them simulateusly... 14:33:34 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (leaving) 14:34:49 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 14:41:24 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (connection lost) 14:51:03 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:56:55 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined company #5 14:58:43 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 14:59:06 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:08:09 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:08:24 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:09:00 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> i cant join my comp, why? 15:09:07 <Stablean> <Mks> password is pass 15:09:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it was reloaded 15:09:16 <Stablean> <Mks> cause server was restarted 15:09:26 <Stablean> <Mks> try "pass" as password 15:09:28 <Stablean> <Mks> should work 15:09:30 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> my psw doesnt work, someone must steal my comp 15:09:41 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined company #3 15:09:47 <Stablean> <Mks> no V set password on all so noone should steal them 15:09:51 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> yeah, pass worked :) 15:10:01 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> thx 15:11:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> daydreamer? 15:11:48 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> yes 15:12:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you have a small iron ore supplyer near little pruntbourne bridge 15:12:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its getting in the way 15:12:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i would want to trade it for another iron ore mine 15:13:23 <Stablean> <Mks> well I'd prefer if he keept it 15:14:09 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hm, but it take a long time to close down to mine .. 40years maybe 15:14:13 <Stablean> <Mks> those mines probarbly won't dissapear in a long time either even if he stops servicing them now 15:14:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if i can trade it for Harnwell Ridge Mines/Harnwell ridge south 15:14:33 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ill promise to service those two mines 15:14:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its not about the mines, its about the rails 15:14:57 <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh 15:15:11 <Stablean> <Mks> well as long as they are serviced I don't care since they feed my station :P 15:15:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, daydreamer? 15:16:03 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> build rail next to my 15:16:05 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> mine 15:16:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> your planning tom move you rails? 15:17:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can you do it to the edge of the map then? 15:17:18 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> no, you must build your rail there 15:17:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay 15:19:10 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:19:24 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:19:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> daydreamer, #23 15:20:19 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> thx 15:21:28 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you still want the other mines? 15:22:18 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> no, thx 15:25:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, im ready, can you remove your station now? 15:26:31 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> i told you, that i dont want to move nothing 15:26:46 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> also not remove? 15:26:59 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> omg NO!! 15:27:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> apparently we misunderstood 15:28:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why d you think i wanted to trade 15:29:00 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:29:15 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:29:34 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> pls stop asking me, i realy dont care about you want 15:30:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im trying to be social 15:33:54 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined spectators 15:35:55 <Stablean> <V453000> wtf is going on here :) 15:36:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where? 15:36:14 <Stablean> <V453000> on this server? :) 15:36:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, i was under the impression i made a trade 15:37:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> to remove rails from my *beautiful* city, but apparently, my wants are of no importance 15:37:36 <Stablean> <V453000> the cities are needlessly big anyway 15:37:46 <Stablean> <V453000> you transport not even 50% pax 15:38:02 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but i want it to grow 15:38:08 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:38:20 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:38:27 <Stablean> <V453000> well these 2 rails wont help it much 15:38:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but i want it to row 15:38:41 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> first of all, order new internet provider 15:38:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and have an s ban 15:39:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why arent you just social 15:39:28 <Stablean> <V453000> cause it just doesnt matter I guess 15:39:35 <Stablean> <V453000> needless effort 15:40:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, not entirely 15:40:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, i wasnt talking about you 15:40:57 <Stablean> <V453000> I know 15:41:35 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:46:37 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 15:47:04 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 15:49:15 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:49:46 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 15:49:48 *** Vitus has quit IRC 15:54:49 <Stablean> <kuch3n> ty Mks 16:00:46 <Stablean> *** kuch3n has joined spectators 16:00:54 <Stablean> <kuch3n> what are the numbers for at Tuningly? 16:00:57 <Stablean> <kuch3n> in the east? 16:06:45 <Stablean> *** kuch3n has joined company #8 16:06:56 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} joined the game 16:07:07 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> This game is no fun more for new players :( 16:07:14 <greenlion> !date 16:07:15 <Stablean> greenlion: 2 Mar 2033 16:07:23 <Stablean> <kuch3n> nope, and for old too :) 16:08:18 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> The bleu system is difficult to under stand :$ 16:08:32 <Stablean> <kuch3n> V453000's? 16:08:38 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> i think so 16:08:45 <Stablean> <kuch3n> yes, but pretty awesome 16:09:04 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> why doesn't he pickupgood s at his sawmill 16:09:14 <Stablean> <kuch3n> new sleburg? 16:09:24 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Plundwoos 16:09:46 <Stablean> <kuch3n> its SRN 16:09:56 <Stablean> <kuch3n> have a look at the blog 16:10:10 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ok 16:20:18 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} has started a new company (#9) 16:21:12 <Stablean> <V453000> goods suck :p 16:34:03 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} has joined spectators 16:35:10 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 16:38:06 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 16:38:25 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 16:41:07 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Wha tdoes those signs with nubers ontop of rails mean? 16:41:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the tonnage coming from that end 16:41:46 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> lol 16:42:11 <planetmaker> vacuum sucks 16:42:13 <planetmaker> :-P 16:42:14 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> who has built the metro? YOu should use different stations tha tmakes them almost invisible 16:42:28 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which ones? 16:42:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> stations i mean 16:42:38 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Japanese > uhh 16:42:56 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> something with overpass from the last dropdown menu 16:43:08 <Stablean> *** greenlion joined the game 16:43:13 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> It's a building with track underneath 16:43:24 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} has joined company #9 16:43:44 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Japanese Modular statiosns 16:43:56 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Low and high overpass 16:44:16 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Only use high and low 16:44:29 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> on tracks and the others maybe around 16:44:59 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} has joined spectators 16:45:11 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> NIce 16:45:13 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} has started a new company (#9) 16:47:29 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> In city centers that is almost invisible 16:48:38 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 16:48:57 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 16:52:18 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (leaving) 17:02:45 <Stablean> *** jor[D]1 has left the game (leaving) 17:09:09 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 17:09:20 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 17:19:01 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 17:19:14 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 17:21:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i built that station when i was under the impression we had a deal 17:22:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and whichroad am i blocking? 17:23:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes and you are doing road reconstruction 17:28:07 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 17:28:17 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 17:35:52 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 17:38:19 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 17:38:39 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 17:50:34 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 17:50:40 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 joined the game 17:58:05 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 has left the game (connection lost) 17:58:32 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 18:02:28 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined company #5 18:09:21 <Stablean> *** Ollie joined the game 18:09:24 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 18:09:41 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 joined the game 18:11:09 <Stablean> *** Ollie has left the game (leaving) 18:19:36 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 has left the game (connection lost) 18:19:58 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 18:28:06 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 18:28:26 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 18:30:18 <Stablean> <Mks> seems 8 plattforms aint enough for 6400 tons a month 18:30:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for steel pick up? 18:31:01 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 18:31:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its only 5812*0,72 18:31:23 <Stablean> <Mks> well it was 6382 or so 18:31:25 <Stablean> <Mks> it varies a bit 18:31:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> true 18:32:22 <Stablean> <Mks> steel pickup has 140 trains but not enough :P 18:32:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, short trains, but not enough no 18:33:13 <Stablean> <Mks> well yeah probarbly with longer plattforms 8 should be enough 18:33:35 <Stablean> <Mks> guess I have to start with 10 next time :) 18:33:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, it held out long 18:34:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can change it to 10, cant you? 18:34:11 <Stablean> <Mks> steel drop is at the limit as well 18:34:34 <Stablean> <Mks> well maybe but not without sacrificing some curve lenght 18:38:31 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 18:38:48 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 18:44:17 <Stablean> <Mks> well added 2 plattforms at the pickup and also 2 at the drop 18:45:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still not enough 18:45:48 <Stablean> <Mks> well can't really make it bigger in any easy way so 18:45:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i have an idea 18:45:58 <Stablean> <Mks> also seems to keep it up now 18:46:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can make the middle one the drop off 18:46:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> build another steel mill and work with waypoints 18:46:42 <Stablean> <Mks> well 18:46:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> like i did at tuningley 18:46:50 <Stablean> <Mks> only really works with drop off 18:46:56 <Stablean> <Mks> doesn't really work with pickup 18:47:33 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm,yes 18:48:08 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 18:48:29 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 18:48:53 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh yeah two steel mills would work perhaps 18:48:55 <Stablean> <Mks> but no fun :) 18:58:06 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 18:58:28 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 18:59:38 <Stablean> <Mks> mm with my test design I would be able to with 17 plattforms 18:59:44 <Stablean> <Mks> but not sure how good that would work 18:59:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> test it :P 19:07:09 <Stablean> <Mks> mm doesn't seem trains wana go to the behind plattform 19:07:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can you inject more 19:07:56 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P 19:08:33 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:08:45 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:09:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and extra pbs 19:10:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or entry and exit signals 19:21:09 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:21:21 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 joined the game 19:29:41 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 has left the game (connection lost) 19:30:04 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:30:28 <Stablean> <Mks> trying another design 19:31:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you dont need those bridges 19:32:33 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and more signals, trains are waiting for a free path 19:35:48 <Stablean> <Mks> might work but not sure if it works with a high load 19:38:43 <Stablean> <Mks> I will do a 5 platform test 19:39:12 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:39:23 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:49:37 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:49:58 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:50:28 <Stablean> *** Combuster joined the game 19:50:42 <Stablean> <Mks> mm you built your own test station? :P 19:50:56 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:50:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> copied yours 19:51:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but with the pbs signals i sugested 19:51:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and slightly longer 19:51:15 <Stablean> <Mks> well I have a live version at the steel mill now 19:51:21 <Stablean> <Mks> it uses pre signals 19:51:57 <Stablean> <Mks> only 5 track tho won't rebuild the rest 19:52:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> of those 5 tracks, only 3 are occupied at any given time 19:52:37 <Stablean> <Mks> I did change the desing somewhat and the new one seem to work quite well 19:52:51 <Stablean> <Mks> well mostly due to lack of trains 19:53:45 <Stablean> <Mks> well 4 sometimes 19:53:47 <Stablean> <Mks> even seen 5 19:53:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes itworks 19:54:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you can handle your steel, thats whats it about 19:54:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 5 now 19:55:40 <Stablean> <Mks> with higher station spread its easier to build a better station 19:55:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, much easier 19:56:00 <V453000> dont blame station spread :) 19:56:13 <Stablean> <Mks> its always station spreads fault :) 19:56:32 <V453000> sure 19:56:44 <Stablean> <Combuster> Lets blame the devs for everything :) 19:56:53 <Stablean> <Mks> well 10 plattforms wasn't enough at the loading station 19:57:06 <Stablean> <Mks> and since I use TL 3 I need more plattforms 19:57:40 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:57:40 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 19:57:42 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 joined the game 19:57:50 <Stablean> <V453000> elo 19:57:52 <Stablean> <Mks> I do have 12 now 19:57:54 <Stablean> <Combuster> Hi V 19:58:02 <Stablean> <V453000> hi Combuster :) what are you doing here :) 19:58:17 <Stablean> <Combuster> Checking this place out :) 19:58:26 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 19:58:28 <Stablean> <Mks> biggest concenr now is drop off can't keep up 19:58:30 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 20:00:24 <Stablean> <Mks> is there anyway to increase unload speed of a train? 20:00:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> not that i know 20:01:03 <Stablean> <Combuster> different railtype? 20:01:48 <Stablean> <Mks> what railtype unload fastest? 20:02:20 <planetmaker> it's a train property. Not a railtype property 20:02:34 <planetmaker> defined by the vehicle newgrf. 20:02:39 <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh 20:03:07 <planetmaker> </voice from the off :-P > 20:08:06 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 has left the game (connection lost) 20:24:28 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 20:27:44 <Stablean> <Combuster> judgement day...? 20:28:07 <Stablean> <Combuster> :P 20:28:45 <Stablean> <Combuster> Hmm, I expected V45300 to be a bit higher than halfway... 20:30:08 <V453000> ? 20:30:33 <V453000> oh you mean the tarded performance rating :D 20:31:38 <Stablean> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 21:02:15 <Stablean> *** greenlion joined the game 21:13:33 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:13:39 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (leaving) 21:16:03 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 21:33:48 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined spectators 21:44:17 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost) 22:30:23 <Stablean> *** kuch3n has left the game (connection lost) 22:30:24 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:30:34 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:30:58 *** kuch3n has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:37:56 *** kuch3n_ has quit IRC 23:03:21 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC