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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 2nd December 2010:
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02:31:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> holy ****   90+ farms
02:41:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> too many farms, I don't know where to start...
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05:55:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> hi guys
05:55:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> Hi Tepo
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06:23:47  <Sylf> Have fun o/
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09:37:09  <V453000> !info
09:37:09  <Stablean> V453000: http://stable.openttdcoop.org
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10:28:05  <V453000> omg it's snowing like hell here ...
10:28:09  <V453000> :p
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12:06:05  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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13:08:01  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hi :P
13:08:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> yo
13:11:30  <V453000> hi
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13:53:26  <Stablean> <Machous> DayDreamer: caw
13:53:48  <Stablean> <Machous> DayDreamer: je potreba elektrifikovat
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15:09:38  <Stablean> <Machous> vysoušel*
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15:17:40  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hii
15:17:58  <Stablean> <Tepo> hey DD
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16:38:49  <Stablean> <ali> no problem
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16:43:19  <Stablean> <Player #1> /!name nwebie
16:44:23  <V453000> without the /
16:44:38  <V453000> just !name <name>
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16:47:29  <V453000> ...
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17:19:49  <DayDreamer> !info
17:19:49  <Stablean> DayDreamer: http://stable.openttdcoop.org
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17:31:04  <Stablean> <Joshua> Somebody knows ALI password?
17:31:11  <Stablean> <Joshua> he has got problems
17:31:39  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> me not ..  yes, he has big problem .. he lost his brain
17:32:18  <Stablean> <Joshua> ;)
17:32:40  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> look at his ugly terrafrms :((
17:33:19  <Stablean> <Joshua> do you mean on the Shinkansen line?
17:33:33  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> everywhere ..
17:34:24  <Stablean> <Joshua> he just has built some tunnels and made flat some parts...
17:34:42  <Stablean> <Joshua> he hasn't terraformed
17:34:49  <Stablean> <Joshua> but the line appears a little
17:34:51  <Stablean> <Joshua> ugly
17:35:01  <Stablean> <Joshua> because it goes UP and DOWN
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19:10:51  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> OMG u are really crazy
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19:21:09  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
19:21:12  <Stablean> <Qjet> hi
19:21:38  <Stablean> <V453000> oh what the hell
19:21:45  <Stablean> <V453000> ali: why do you terraform so much?
19:21:55  <Stablean> <Qjet> MASTER OF HIS DOMAIN
19:22:11  <Stablean> <ali> i re make hils
19:22:17  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm the shinkansens look odd :D
19:22:39  <Stablean> <V453000> didnt know the rails look so funny in arctic, well, I know for the next timex
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19:23:05  <Stablean> <Qjet> don't forget the trees
19:23:07  <Stablean> <Qjet> ///
19:23:13  <Stablean> <Qjet> .... I think he forgot the trees
19:24:12  <Stablean> <Qjet> woh...
19:24:38  <Stablean> <V453000> btw ali: please use normal signals just like others do
19:24:48  <Stablean> <V453000> you can use the PBS, but only when needed, please
19:24:55  <Stablean> <Qjet> bottom left of the map, did ali get lucky?
19:25:30  <Stablean> <Qjet> v45 is there a reason against using pbs's?
19:25:36  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
19:25:40  <Stablean> <Qjet> do tell .D
19:25:55  <Stablean> <V453000> PBS uses much more computing power
19:26:11  <Stablean> <V453000> therefore if you spam the map with it, the game might be unplayable much sooner than it normally would
19:26:19  <Stablean> <V453000> that is the technical problem
19:26:33  <Stablean> <Qjet> ic...
19:26:40  <Stablean> <V453000> there are a lot of their disadvantages building-wise, for example I dont use PBS at all
19:26:54  <Stablean> <Qjet> i guess that would crop up in big coop games
19:27:16  <Stablean> <Qjet> they seem like sensible signals to me...
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19:28:06  <Stablean> <Qjet> there different behaviour for trains going different directions down tracks makes them attractive for horribly bad designs
19:28:17  <Stablean> <V453000> well, yes
19:28:27  <Stablean> <Qjet> like two way tracks .P
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19:28:39  <Stablean> <V453000> but when you want performance, pre-signals will do best in most cases
19:29:10  <Stablean> <Qjet> performance as in less strain on the computer? or performance as in effecient railways
19:29:20  <Stablean> <V453000> the second
19:30:06  <Stablean> <V453000> pre-signals have completely different possiblities and overall (mainly) very reliable and predictable way how they work
19:30:40  <Stablean> <Qjet> yah I have noticed some strange issues with path signals before
19:31:24  <Stablean> <Qjet> like if you reach a fork, and train is blocking one way, and the alternative is to path through a station, it won't path
19:31:38  <Stablean> <Qjet> unless you make it impossible to go the other way, or oneway the track
19:32:08  <Stablean> <V453000> wel,
19:32:15  <Stablean> <V453000> there are some ways how to do it
19:32:33  <Stablean> <V453000> but that is just fooling pathfinder, which is quite an easy task with any signals
19:32:39  <Stablean> <V453000> (when you know how to do it, but dont bother)
19:33:18  <Stablean> <Qjet> It's not like I intentionally tried to fool it .P I was just trying to make effecient use of a two way track and it died .P
19:33:20  <Stablean> <V453000> meh, just use what you enjoy ;) I _strongly_ recommend pre-signals
19:33:38  <Stablean> <V453000> thats all :p
19:34:20  <Stablean> <Qjet> is there like a modified graphics set hat makes the signals more obvious as to their type?
19:35:24  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm
19:35:42  <Stablean> <V453000> I am not sure if any of them makes them better but there are some signals indeed
19:36:16  <Stablean> <V453000> from what I know, it is japanese signals, north american signals, maybe dutch catenary involves signals, but I am not sure about that
19:36:35  <Stablean> <V453000> possibly also some others, I do not use signal newGRFs so I do not know
19:54:02  <Stablean> <Qjet> looking over blues line
19:54:18  <Stablean> <Qjet> his pickup and dropoff both consist of wheat and livestock
19:54:31  <Stablean> <Qjet> yet he's seperated the two commodities
19:56:58  <Stablean> <V453000> you mean, he separated pickups, merged drop?
19:57:12  <Stablean> <Qjet> yah
19:57:27  <Stablean> <Qjet> seems strange to do it that way
19:57:41  <Stablean> <V453000> why
19:57:45  <Stablean> <V453000> how would you do it
19:57:55  <Stablean> <Qjet> both grain and livestock are always in equal proporitions
19:58:05  <Stablean> <V453000> do they seem like they are?
19:58:07  <Stablean> <Qjet> so have one system using trains with both grain and livestock
19:58:33  <Stablean> <V453000> production 144 wheat / 72 livestock doesnt seem to be very equal to me
19:58:45  <Stablean> <V453000> (reading from one of his farms)
19:59:07  <Stablean> <Qjet> oh... uh... last time I checked you couldn't haul as much livestock as grain
19:59:19  <Stablean> <Qjet> even so, 3:1 trains mixed with 2:2 trains
19:59:53  <Stablean> <V453000> either way, it is never a good idea to make mixed trains
20:00:05  <minisylf> production changes happen unevenly too
20:00:53  <Stablean> <Qjet> yah but having mixed trains doesn't exactly set you to a specific ratio
20:00:57  <minisylf> farms can start with 2:1 rate but grows to be 1:4
20:01:48  <minisylf> and separating stations enables us easier traffic control
20:01:49  <Stablean> <Qjet> oh but
20:01:55  <Stablean> <Qjet> i see
20:01:58  <Stablean> <Qjet> plafingford
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20:02:13  <Stablean> <Qjet> if you used the same system, trains with 2 grain 2 livestock would pull in
20:02:23  <Stablean> <Qjet> plafingford central
20:02:25  <Stablean> <Qjet> bleh
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20:49:48  <Stablean> <V453000> E1/E4 Series Shinkansen (MAX) available NOW! Don't miss the special offer and buy the Teal Edition! Special offer lasts only a few years, BUY NOW!
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20:50:21  <Stablean> <Minimal_Animal> lol
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20:50:45  <Stablean> <Minimal_Animal> 300 series is better than e1/4
20:50:59  <Stablean> <Tepo> hi guys
20:51:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> what's the problem?
20:51:04  <Stablean> <Minimal_Animal> hi
20:51:11  <Stablean> <V453000> for sure but E1 will recolor after year ... 2000? :o
20:51:22  <Stablean> <V453000> and the current ones are much nicer :p
20:51:24  <Stablean> <Minimal_Animal> :D
20:51:38  <Stablean> <V453000> imo anyway
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20:53:22  <Stablean> <V453000> ? :D
20:53:32  <Stablean> <Minimal_Animal> wtf?
20:53:40  <Stablean> <V453000> he just came and left
20:53:50  <Stablean> <Minimal_Animal> ah
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21:07:20  <Stablean> <V453000> 500 series :p
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21:08:19  <Stablean> <Minimal_Animal> cool .. replacing :)
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21:15:34  <planetmaker> !info
21:15:34  <Stablean> planetmaker: http://stable.openttdcoop.org
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23:44:55  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> oops shit...
23:45:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> o_o
23:45:07  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh hi :P
23:45:18  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> started a new company by accident >_>
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23:45:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> time to buy a ship
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23:45:42  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> oh yeah
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