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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 21st April 2013:
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14:26:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
14:26:42  <Stablean> <nicfer> ho
14:26:46  <Stablean> <nicfer> hi*
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14:27:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  we  going
14:27:23  <Stablean> <nicfer> good
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14:29:15  <Stablean> <V453000> hello
14:29:18  <Stablean> <nicfer> ho
14:29:20  <Stablean> <nicfer> hi*
14:29:30  <Stablean> <nicfer> nice
14:29:40  <Stablean> <V453000> punished for not using correct rail type :)
14:29:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> woops
14:30:12  <Stablean> <nicfer> one idea for the animal express...
14:30:38  <Stablean> <nicfer> those who have a creeper head should destroy everything near a 5x5 area
14:31:16  <Stablean> <V453000> you should use monorail rails bw :(
14:31:39  <Stablean> <nicfer> y?
14:31:49  <Stablean> <V453000> because those are monorail trains? :d
14:32:35  <Stablean> <nicfer> they also run fine in univ, so...
14:32:41  <Stablean> <V453000> yes but it is ugly
14:34:07  <Stablean> <V453000> not to mention that I think it is nice to have some variety in tracks if you use different engines each game, but meh
14:35:49  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
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14:45:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things  v
14:45:23  <Stablean> <V453000> not too good
14:45:30  <Stablean> <V453000> too busy and not in a very good fashion
14:45:32  <Stablean> <V453000> but meh
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14:52:16  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  syl59
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14:53:56  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hello happy tran  sport
14:54:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
14:54:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and nicfer
14:54:18  <Stablean> <nicfer> jo
14:54:20  <Stablean> <nicfer> hi*
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16:35:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi day
16:35:20  <Stablean> <day> hi. i'm just watching a bit
16:35:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
16:39:46  <Stablean> <day> happy transport: why do you use many short trains instead of long ones?
16:40:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> to  keep   the  speed  up
16:40:29  <V453000> mainly to allow short curves
16:40:46  <V453000> if you have short trains you can use short curves without slowdown
16:40:47  <Stablean> <day> ahm, ok.
16:41:17  <V453000> this particular train set has many trains which allow to reduce curve length by their low speeds or special behaviour too though
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16:43:12  <Stablean> <nicfer> is there a special IRC channel for this server?
16:43:18  <Stablean> <V453000> #openttdcoop.stable
16:43:38  <Stablean> <nicfer> that's what I thought
16:44:14  <Stablean> <V453000> solid network you have :)
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16:44:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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16:48:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> fill  free  to john  us  v
16:52:32  <Stablean> <V453000> cant do , got stuff to be done
16:55:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
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17:04:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> player    change  your   name
17:04:35  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to name_changed
17:04:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> and  hi
17:05:02  <V453000> ...
17:05:06  <V453000> !players
17:05:08  <Stablean> V453000: Client 439 (Orange) is nicfer, in company 2 (happy tran  sport Transport)
17:05:09  <Stablean> V453000: Client 450 (Orange) is happy tran  sport, in company 2 (happy tran  sport Transport)
17:05:09  <Stablean> V453000: Client 467 (Pink) is name_changed, in company 8 (MadDoctorMilton Transport)
17:05:15  <V453000> !rcon move 467 255
17:05:15  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** name_changed has joined spectators
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17:05:33  <V453000> !rcon move 467 255
17:05:33  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** name_changed has joined spectators
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17:05:40  <V453000> normal name please
17:05:42  <V453000> normal name please
17:05:44  <V453000> !rcon move 467 255
17:05:45  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** name_changed has joined spectators
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17:06:08  <V453000> !rcon move 467 255
17:06:09  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** name_changed has joined spectators
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17:06:22  <V453000> !rcon kick 467
17:06:22  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** name_changed has left the game (kicked by server)
17:06:22  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** name_changed has left the game (connection lost)
17:06:39  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#9)
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17:06:56  <V453000> another player? :d please change your name
17:07:10  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to name_changed
17:07:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
17:07:35  <V453000> alright
17:07:37  <V453000> !players
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17:07:40  <Stablean> V453000: Client 439 (Orange) is nicfer, in company 2 (happy tran  sport Transport)
17:07:40  <Stablean> V453000: Client 450 (Orange) is happy tran  sport, in company 2 (happy tran  sport Transport)
17:07:40  <Stablean> V453000: Client 469 is name_changed, a spectator
17:07:45  <V453000> !rcon ban 469
17:07:45  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** name_changed has left the game (kicked by server)
17:07:45  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** name_changed has left the game (connection lost)
17:07:45  <Stablean> V453000: Banned 1 client(s)
17:08:23  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> v  he  has  port   a password  on  cumpany  8
17:08:56  <V453000> thanks for reporting it
17:09:14  <V453000> but well ... if the owner comes they can just contact me for moving them there
17:09:22  <V453000> and we might want to get a new map rather soon anyway
17:09:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
17:10:27  <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators
17:10:34  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to name_changed
17:10:50  <Stablean> <name_changed> you really want to play the game. 'im the server, i ban you!'
17:11:03  <V453000> what form of a retard are you
17:11:23  <Stablean> <name_changed> 'oh im the server im overpowered'
17:11:40  <V453000> dont think banning you is the worst that can happen
17:11:49  <V453000> the people will start hating you if you behave like a douchebag anyway
17:12:14  <Stablean> <name_changed> oh i was thinking you were going to meet me at my door :fear:
17:12:25  <V453000> you have problems
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17:13:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb  syl59
17:13:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> thx :)
17:13:19  <Stablean> *** name_changed has joined company #8
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17:13:29  <V453000> !players
17:13:32  <Stablean> V453000: Client 439 (Orange) is nicfer, in company 2 (happy tran  sport Transport)
17:13:32  <Stablean> V453000: Client 450 (Orange) is happy tran  sport, in company 2 (happy tran  sport Transport)
17:13:32  <Stablean> V453000: Client 471 is name_changed, a spectator
17:13:32  <Stablean> V453000: Client 473 is [FR]Syl59, a spectator
17:13:33  <Stablean> *** name_changed has started a new company (#9)
17:14:15  <V453000> !rcon set max_companies 0
17:14:22  <V453000> !rcon kick 471
17:14:22  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** name_changed has left the game (kicked by server)
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17:14:28  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 9
17:14:29  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
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17:15:01  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> haio
17:15:07  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 7
17:15:07  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
17:15:14  <Stablean> <V453000> hi.
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17:15:39  <Stablean> <V453000> enjoy
17:15:41  <Stablean> <name_changed> this server is really boring
17:15:41  <Stablean> <V453000> dickface
17:15:43  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
17:16:08  <Stablean> <name_changed> oh you call other guy
17:16:14  <Stablean> <name_changed> to solve the 'problem'
17:16:21  <V453000> other guy?
17:18:33  <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} has joined company #4
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17:20:59  <Stablean> <name_changed> no i just enter here because says 'coop' but i get banned :X
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17:21:29  <Stablean> <name_changed> that is sad indeed
17:21:31  <Stablean> <V453000> indeed
17:21:37  <Stablean> <V453000> coop also has some rules
17:21:47  <Stablean> <V453000> so if you behave like a douchebag
17:21:49  <Stablean> <V453000> yes indeed you get banned
17:22:01  <Stablean> <V453000> only nice people play here
17:22:19  <Stablean> <name_changed> they  dont even let me start company
17:22:27  <Stablean> <V453000> yep, terribile
17:22:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  is  your  net  werk  going  syl59
17:23:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Well ...
17:23:10  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2
17:23:12  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I think i'ts not finished
17:23:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
17:23:33  <Stablean> <name_changed> btw when server restart or objetive?
17:23:43  <Stablean> <V453000> why do you ask
17:23:45  <Stablean> <V453000> you wont play anyway
17:23:59  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and I think the limit of that, without upgrades, will be 300 trains so I don't konw why I want to flood my network :P
17:24:03  <Stablean> <name_changed> you cant tell that too?
17:24:05  <Stablean> <V453000> unless you change your attitude
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17:24:37  <Stablean> <name_changed> simple question..
17:25:12  <Stablean> <V453000> easy logic, if you behave well and dont make problems, and have a different nickname, I dont really care if you are the same physical person or not
17:25:30  <Stablean> <V453000> I really dont need to be able to tell if you are the same or not
17:25:56  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2
17:26:24  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Im quite happy of my hubs too :)
17:27:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> dam tran
17:27:23  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> don't remove signals too fast :)
17:27:41  <Stablean> <V453000> you crash trains often happy :)
17:27:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  i for  got  to  stop  trans
17:27:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
17:28:05  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators
17:28:51  <Stablean> *** name_changed has changed his/her name to taipei
17:28:59  <Stablean> <taipei> when server restart or objective?
17:29:04  <V453000> !rcon set max_companies 15
17:29:15  <Stablean> <V453000> manual restart upon demand
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17:29:29  <Stablean> <V453000> objective build many trains
17:29:32  <Stablean> <V453000> +-
17:29:46  <Stablean> <V453000> well more like build an awesome network, but that is usually closely linked with many trains :>
17:29:48  <Stablean> <taipei> limit on train?
17:29:54  <Stablean> <V453000> 5000
17:30:04  <Stablean> <V453000> ok lies, it is 1000 atm
17:30:58  <Stablean> <taipei> so is that why industry have lot of production?
17:31:03  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 8
17:31:03  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
17:31:21  <Stablean> *** taipei has started a new company (#7)
17:31:25  <Stablean> <V453000> just cause people care about them and transport from them for a long time, and well
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17:33:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be back later
17:33:54  <Stablean> *** happy tran  sport has left the game (leaving)
17:33:54  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> bye :)
17:34:11  <Stablean> <V453000> he wrote a line without mistake
17:34:22  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> roh ... x)
17:35:20  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Well ... i've learned things in this game
17:35:34  <Stablean> <V453000> like? :)
17:36:02  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> long trains or way more difficult to control than the small's ones
17:36:20  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> especially for the waiting bays
17:36:27  <Stablean> <V453000> well yes due to the long waiting bays but with the short curve length it is alright
17:36:37  <Stablean> <V453000> hint, dont try TL10 fast monorail :P
17:37:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Should be a good thing to do on public server :P
17:37:23  <Stablean> <V453000> point :)
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17:42:07  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> you see the problem with the WET set V ?
17:48:21  <Stablean> <V453000> what exactly
17:48:41  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> See "express and univer..." sign
17:48:47  <Stablean> <V453000> holy shit
17:48:49  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#8)
17:48:51  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and look at my vessels
17:49:14  <Stablean> <V453000> right that makes a lot more sense now
17:49:36  <Stablean> <V453000> only a short time ago I noticed that universal can carry pax
17:49:43  <Stablean> <V453000> alright
17:49:46  <Stablean> <V453000> well that is a nice wtf
17:50:00  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> indeed xD
17:50:23  <Stablean> <V453000> wellll
17:50:58  <Stablean> <V453000> the problem is, I shouldnt just swap them back
17:51:04  <Stablean> <V453000> it would make the savegame incompatible
17:51:14  <Stablean> <V453000> but if it is only one specific version which was out only for one week
17:51:20  <Stablean> <V453000> might not be the biggest issue
17:51:50  <Stablean> <V453000> as the other option would be to define new vehicles with new ID, and keep these vehicles as they are, only making them not purchaseable
17:52:12  <Stablean> <V453000> which is a pain in the ass as it adds stupid pieces to the code, but it is an option
17:52:51  <Stablean> <V453000> I guess as it hasnt even been used on the PS and only on a few servers, the likelihood that anyone will update their NUTS in a running game from this version is relatively low
17:53:06  <Stablean> <taipei> this server has unique GRF?
17:55:00  <Stablean> <V453000> what do you mean unique?
17:55:10  <Stablean> <taipei> only on this server
17:55:12  <Stablean> <V453000> if you mean the trains, there are more servers which use them but this server probably the most
17:55:27  <Stablean> <V453000> all newGRFs we use here are from the download content therefore anybody can use them on any server
17:55:41  <Stablean> <taipei> because you talk about the code
17:55:43  <Stablean> <taipei> Oo
17:55:54  <Stablean> <V453000> that is because I am the author of this trainset, I drew and coded it
17:56:10  <Stablean> <V453000> so people give me reports about bugs and feedback so I can fix it
17:56:24  <Stablean> <taipei> how you program for this?
17:56:34  <Stablean> <taipei> language i mean
17:56:52  <Stablean> <V453000> I personally use NML, which is a "NewGRF Meta Language"
17:57:07  <Stablean> <V453000> a very simple language for writing newGRFs
17:57:29  <Stablean> <V453000> the other option is to use nfo which is the basic language, and there might be some stupid grf editors somewhere but those are limited
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17:57:41  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I go, bye :)
17:57:42  <V453000> duh
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17:57:46  <V453000> cya :)
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17:58:33  <Stablean> <taipei> is that language close to any popular language?
17:58:47  <Stablean> <V453000> if you want to read more about the train set in particular, you can go to nuts.openttdcoop.org ... there is a wiki and source of the newgrf
17:58:50  <Stablean> <V453000> not sure
17:59:12  <Stablean> <V453000> but it is very simple, it is more like just defining a few values rather than coding I would say
17:59:39  <Stablean> <taipei> oh ok i understand, just define parameters
17:59:44  <Stablean> <V453000> more or less
18:02:47  <Stablean> <taipei> i like what openttd comunity have done with this game. but maybe they could go further and rewrite the game with more atual graphics, and be a free game with paid content, then they grow bigger
18:03:13  <Stablean> <V453000> not going to happen
18:03:27  <Stablean> <V453000> first of all most of us dont even want different graphics
18:03:31  <Stablean> <V453000> this is nice enough
18:03:53  <Stablean> <V453000> and recoding it all is prooobably an awful lot of work
18:03:56  <Stablean> <V453000> it wouldnt be openttd anymore
18:04:30  <Stablean> <V453000> especially as it would probably carry with it some counterproductive yet demanded/popular by the general public features like signals on bridges and similar stupid stuff
18:04:48  <Stablean> <V453000> also creating newGRFs is really easy, anybody can draw an image and slap it in openttd
18:05:14  <Stablean> <V453000> modelling is a lot different and making rendered images look good in 1x zoom pixel game is extremely hard, and I think impossible in compare to pixel art
18:05:32  <Stablean> <taipei> yeah i said graphics but, it could be engine. i think there are yet bugs in the code
18:05:39  <Stablean> <V453000> so far nobody succeded making a render which would look well when played in normal zoom
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18:05:50  <Stablean> <V453000> not really major bugs
18:06:01  <Stablean> <V453000> there might be tiny things sometimes, but rarely
18:06:19  <Stablean> <V453000> mostly caused by new things being added
18:06:54  <Stablean> <taipei> but it would be fun to see this game with size like most MMORPG
18:07:14  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think that would help much
18:07:32  <Stablean> <V453000> intelligent people who want to play the game find the path to it one way or the other, for that the game is popular enough
18:09:12  <Stablean> <taipei> yes i mean the concept of this game. this is very popular because its old
18:09:26  <Stablean> <V453000> not just that
18:10:00  <Stablean> <V453000> it is popular because it is able to captivate people for years by its endless possibilities, complexity, and newGRF-and-similar-add-on development
18:10:34  <Stablean> <V453000> obviously the legacy of successful TT/TTD/TTDLX series helps
18:10:56  <Stablean> <V453000> and OpenTTD is still following similar enough logic to be equally successful, or more.
18:11:15  <Stablean> <taipei> this is very complex, and thats why i think it would be a good mmo game
18:11:49  <Stablean> <V453000> idk how would you imagine it as mmo, but if you look at what we do at openttdcoop public server or pro zone, I think it is self explanatory why this game is so special
18:12:27  <Stablean> <V453000> if the only aspect of mmo should be "masses" of people, I would have to say no thanks
18:12:53  <Stablean> <V453000> rather a bunch of intelligent nice people instead of a gigantic herd of trolls, hateful kids and raging douchebags
18:13:07  <Stablean> <V453000> (summary of todays internet gaming communities)
18:13:07  <Stablean> <taipei> hehe
18:13:15  <Stablean> <taipei> yeah thats true
18:13:17  <Stablean> <taipei> :/
18:13:35  <Stablean> <V453000> and I played dota and heroes of newerth, I know what a horrific community looks like
18:14:17  <Stablean> <taipei> i played wow when it was good comunity (in the begin)
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18:14:51  <Stablean> <V453000> by the way just a small hint, try to start your network at one spot on this server, and then expand it
18:15:05  <Stablean> <V453000> people are used to having their own pitch of land and play there
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18:16:15  <Stablean> <V453000> I think if you set the name in the game lobby it should save
18:16:27  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to taipei
18:16:29  <Stablean> <V453000> console command "name newname" might also do that
18:16:31  <Stablean> <V453000> without the " "
18:16:43  <Stablean> <taipei> i dont usually play this game
18:16:54  <Stablean> <V453000> the ! is just a command for the server and the server renames you, so it isnt saved by your config because it doesnt really happen locally at your client
18:16:56  <Stablean> <taipei> i just played it when it was ttd
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18:17:26  <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt matter :)
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18:18:19  <Stablean> <V453000> well, have a nice time ... I will be going
18:18:25  <Stablean> <taipei> ok cya
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18:31:07  <V453000> do you mind if I restart the server in like ~ 30 minutes?
18:31:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> go  for  it
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19:08:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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19:08:20  <Stablean> <nicfer> oops
19:08:22  <Stablean> <nicfer> hi
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19:12:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> we got a grate  net  werk  thanks for your help nicfer
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19:13:20  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi jam
19:13:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
19:13:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things
19:13:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> not 3 bad
19:14:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> u?
19:14:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
19:15:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> heard a rumor about a new map soon
19:15:59  <Stablean> <Jam35> i.e. playable 4 me
19:16:01  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
19:16:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  me  to
19:16:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> when V pays me for NUTS work I can buy a new PC
19:16:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice
19:16:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> :D
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19:18:58  <V453000> After V gets paid for NUTS enough :P
19:19:16  <V453000> im going to release a bugfix version in several minutes
19:19:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> well anybody is free to donate listeners :)
19:19:36  <V453000> also you arent working on NUTS but on some station set :P
19:20:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> similar :P
19:20:21  <V453000> no, actually reverse :D you STEAL sprites and use them for your own glory!
19:20:22  <V453000> ha!
19:20:25  <V453000> PAY ME
19:21:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> Was asked to by you: PAY ME!!! :)
19:21:18  <Stablean> *** Chuggers has left the game (leaving)
19:21:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> I win ;P
19:21:50  <V453000> duh! that isnt how this works!
19:21:56  <V453000> or is it...
19:22:17  <TWerkhoven> you are his employer, thus his boss
19:22:27  <TWerkhoven> you can kick him about, but you have to pay him
19:22:42  <TWerkhoven> doesnt say what with though, or even that it has to be a positive number
19:22:43  <V453000> no he is just using my sprites to make his own sprites :D
19:22:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes! (now I'm probably fired)
19:22:57  <V453000> that doesnt even remotely mean I am his boss :D
19:24:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> devzone page states Manager: V453000, proof enough I think
19:24:55  <TWerkhoven> lol
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19:25:51  <V453000> for NUTS
19:25:54  <V453000> you arent working on NUTS :D
19:26:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> remove me as contributor then :P
19:26:12  <V453000> bitch
19:26:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> I quit
19:26:32  <V453000> :D ok lets end this conversation
19:26:35  <V453000> [get back to work slave]
19:26:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> k  boss
19:27:56  <V453000> and yeah, I update NUTS and new game can commence
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19:34:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> what a noob
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19:36:03  <Stablean> <V453000> compiling :)
19:36:27  <Stablean> <nicfer> (:
19:36:45  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#8)
19:43:33  <Stablean> <V453000> no outrageously huge changes, but a few fixes and improvements :)
19:43:36  <Stablean> <V453000> nothing massively new
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19:45:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> Animal Express CL0.5
19:45:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> too minimal?
19:45:40  <Stablean> <V453000> should be called CL1
19:46:18  <Stablean> <V453000> the reason why the train slows down is because the engine itself meets curves in certain moments
19:46:25  <Stablean> <V453000> if the engine was made of short wagons it would not slow down
19:46:44  <Stablean> <V453000> it is some weird mechanic, I just reduced speed to 211
19:47:15  <Stablean> <V453000> also, animal express is awesome
19:47:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> hm the purchase menu states does not...could be misunderstood
19:47:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes it is
19:47:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> (misunderstood by me :)
19:48:45  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah it should not slow down as intended
19:48:51  <Stablean> <V453000> -> reducing speed so it cannot slow down
19:48:57  <Stablean> <V453000> the reductions is only 6kmh anyway
19:48:59  <Stablean> <V453000> or about that
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19:52:51  <V453000> why nobody noticed C4T doesnt have proper wagons when using universal wagons
19:54:55  <V453000> k, newGRFs for next game?
19:55:15  <Stablean> <nicfer> opengfx+ industries with same parameters
19:55:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
19:55:31  <Stablean> <nicfer> maybe without coal?
19:55:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> dutch train set
19:55:54  <TWerkhoven> i imagine trains are gonna be nuts
19:56:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> :D oh right
19:56:36  <V453000> TWerkhoven: dutch train set is one of the sets I have officially declared hating
19:56:43  <V453000> Jam35 just wants a bitch slap
19:56:43  <TWerkhoven> oh?
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19:58:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> tongue-in-cheek ofc :)
20:00:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> er...um...desert map maybe? not too bothered about the rest
20:01:10  <V453000> yeah, will be tropic
20:01:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> not even bothered about desert
20:01:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> :)
20:01:24  <V453000> ogfx+ industries, nuttorz, random stuff as always
20:01:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> sounds fine
20:01:46  <TWerkhoven> bridge set?
20:02:07  <Stablean> <nicfer> default
20:02:29  <V453000> yeah I like UK roads in tropic
20:04:44  <V453000> ok nuts compiled :)
20:05:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> takes a little time then...
20:07:02  <V453000> !content
20:07:03  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Connection established
20:07:03  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
20:07:03  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Nothing to download
20:08:44  <V453000> !content
20:08:45  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Connection established
20:08:45  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Downloading 6 file(s) (5900264 bytes)
20:08:45  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2646
20:08:46  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2662
20:08:46  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2663
20:08:47  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2658
20:08:47  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2665
20:08:49  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2666
20:08:49  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] All 6 downloaded
20:08:51  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] (you need to rescan(ai|game|newgrf) to have the new content loaded)
20:08:51  <V453000> did I say tropic or desert?
20:09:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> tropic
20:09:38  <V453000> and what that means?
20:09:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> you will make desert
20:10:04  <V453000> ok boss
20:10:15  <V453000> !content
20:10:15  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Connection established
20:10:15  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
20:10:15  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Nothing to download
20:11:10  <Stablean> <nicfer> why most goods trains decide to take the leftmost tract at the ML to the town drop?
20:11:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> sign?
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20:12:02  <Stablean> <nicfer> see sign 'goods trains...'
20:12:48  <Stablean> <nicfer> I think the problem is at the goods pickup exit
20:13:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> various things will act as penalties on that non chosen line
20:13:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe force the issue more there
20:15:23  <Stablean> <nicfer> non goods trains prefer the northern path
20:16:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> only one choice @ !here
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20:18:26  <V453000> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/StableNUTS68.sav
20:18:30  <V453000> ready when you are
20:18:31  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
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20:18:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> redey
20:18:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> ready here
20:18:58  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
20:19:07  <V453000> !restart
20:19:07  <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
20:19:35  <Stablean> <nicfer> I was asking why  my trains prefer a way...
20:19:38  <Stablean> <nicfer> but yeah
20:19:50  <Stablean> <nicfer> first time presencing a  reset in this server
20:20:01  <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
20:20:02  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.3.0.
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20:20:51  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
20:21:07  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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20:21:09  <V453000> !rcon cd 3
20:21:09  <Stablean> V453000: players
20:21:09  <Stablean> V453000: server_info
20:21:09  <Stablean> V453000: clients
20:21:09  <Stablean> V453000: echo doneclientcount
20:21:09  <Stablean> V453000: #:1(Green) Company Name: 'Sylf Transport'  Year Founded: 1922  Money: 2325190392  Loan: 0  Value: 2325768656  (T:140, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
20:21:10  <Stablean> V453000: you have 17 more messages
20:21:11  <V453000> !rcon load 2
20:21:13  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
20:21:15  <V453000> !auto
20:21:16  <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
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20:21:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice
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20:22:05  <Stablean> <V453000> fuck you Jam35 :>
20:22:07  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:22:07  <Stablean> <V453000> have desert
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20:22:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> where?
20:22:27  <Stablean> <V453000> there
20:22:33  <Stablean> <V453000> this is tropic isnt it
20:22:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> oh I see some
20:22:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> whatever
20:23:14  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#2)
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20:23:36  <Stablean> <nicfer> so, coop again happy?
20:23:43  <Stablean> <V453000> coal is included but there are like just a few coal mines
20:23:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
20:23:47  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#3)
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20:24:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> facory
20:24:40  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has enabled autopause mode.
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20:26:33  <Stablean> <V453000> Jam35: why arent you wining yet
20:26:55  <Stablean> *** V453000 has changed his/her name to V_Annoying_Bitch
20:26:59  <Stablean> <Jam35> whining or winning?
20:27:03  <Stablean> <V_Annoying_Bitch> :D
20:27:05  <Stablean> <V_Annoying_Bitch> both
20:27:06  <TWerkhoven> both?
20:27:09  <Stablean> *** V_Annoying_Bitch has changed his/her name to V453000
20:27:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> this will be the winningest
20:27:43  <Stablean> <V453000> good
20:27:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> drive on left...awesome
20:27:55  <Stablean> <V453000> also, who of you knows how I made this map :)
20:28:29  <Stablean> <V453000> [huge ass mountains in sub-tropic arent exactly normal]
20:28:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok what's the trick?
20:29:14  <Stablean> <V453000> duh!
20:29:21  <Stablean> <V453000> reading my short map generation guide :P
20:29:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> I readed it
20:30:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> don't remember that part
20:30:12  <Stablean> <V453000> bad minion
20:39:26  <Stablean> <V453000> hm the first rail hoppers still have the same heaps since 0.0.1 I think
20:40:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> If it ain't broke...
20:41:10  <Stablean> <V453000> well looking like shit is broken :D
20:42:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> well they have the look of old style
20:43:14  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant call poor drawing old style :D
20:43:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> :) no I mean 1st gen
20:43:40  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
20:43:50  <Stablean> <V453000> well the cargo could still look nicer
20:43:54  <Stablean> <V453000> wagons themselves are nice enough
20:44:04  <Stablean> <V453000> could be a bit nicer but thats fine
20:44:24  <Stablean> <nicfer> looks like one headed medium is rather powerless
20:44:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> if anything they make the engine look small but those are early also
20:45:16  <Stablean> <nicfer> later on mono medium will be enough for single engines through
20:45:18  <Stablean> <V453000> power of medium is alright
20:45:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> early ones struggle on steep inclines yes
20:45:38  <Stablean> <V453000> using gigantic hill in early game isnt alright :P
20:45:48  <Stablean> <V453000> or use strong for now :)
20:45:55  <Stablean> <V453000> nobody says you have to grab a class now and never change it
20:46:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> I have tried to make some steps where possible
20:46:55  <Stablean> <V453000> well you can always go around the mountain you know
20:47:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> true also
20:48:20  <Stablean> <V453000> not sure if that rail-amount-of-rails network is worth it orange guys :P
20:48:34  <Stablean> <V453000> profit is easy to gain and the amount of work added by re-signalling and stuff :d
20:48:50  <Stablean> <V453000> I mean low-amount-of-rails
20:48:52  <Stablean> <V453000> ..
20:48:54  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
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20:55:19  <Stablean> <nicfer> where shall we do wood drop?
20:56:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> the  facory can    accepts  wood
20:57:13  <Stablean> <nicfer> industry chain says there should be paper mills that accept wood
20:57:32  <Stablean> <nicfer> and factories should accept steel rather than wood
20:58:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer  but  i just  take  the wood  to the facory
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21:08:21  <Stablean> <nicfer> actually, the factory drop doesn't accept wood
21:08:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer
21:08:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> larst  time  it did
21:08:57  <Stablean> <nicfer> train 18 is leaving full
21:09:03  <Stablean> <V453000> welll :D
21:09:05  <Stablean> <V453000> improvise
21:09:12  <Stablean> <V453000> that is because of the weird map generating process
21:09:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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21:11:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  chris
21:11:43  <Chris_Booth> hi
21:11:46  <Stablean> <nicfer> hi
21:12:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
21:13:32  <Stablean> <V453000> moo :)
21:14:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> voom voom voom
21:16:22  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> fill  free  to  john  us chris
21:19:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> can't at the moment happy being told off by the girl friend
21:19:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> lol
21:19:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
21:21:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Not 100% sure what I have done wrong yet, but I am sure I will find out it was my fault
21:23:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> so...no farms produce livestock?
21:23:44  <Stablean> <V453000> means you should go discover what is new in NUTS because you will shit your pants if you havent seen it yet Chris Booth
21:23:59  <Stablean> <nicfer> forests in this game look weird
21:24:01  <Stablean> <V453000> nuh, the industries got slightly fucked up with my hax :D
21:24:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> ah found one
21:24:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> not all..
21:24:32  <Stablean> <V453000> right
21:24:38  <Stablean> <V453000> then only those growing in the game will
21:24:40  <Stablean> <V453000> those generated wont
21:28:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> gtgbb
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21:29:10  <Stablean> <V453000> forests look correct
21:29:24  <Stablean> <V453000> that is how ogfx+ industries forests look like, they just take tree X from current tree set
21:29:42  <Stablean> <nicfer> yeah I know
21:29:56  <Stablean> <nicfer> but they look so
21:31:06  <Stablean> <V453000> well if the trees were more random then they would be totally invisible in actual areas with trees
21:31:13  <Stablean> <V453000> some house or something wouldnt hurt there though
21:31:15  <Stablean> <V453000> or machinery
21:31:25  <Stablean> <V453000> but you know, draw it :P
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21:57:53  <Stablean> <V453000> right
21:58:00  <Stablean> <V453000> if you fund a new factory, it will accept steel
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23:15:45  <Stablean> <nicfer> going to eat
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23:15:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok

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