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00:00:27 *** Lord_Odd_Eye [~dan@themartinfamily.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:00:42 <Sacro> mplayer dvd://1 -hardframedrop -alang en -vc dummy -vo null -ao pcm:file=audiopipe \ 00:00:42 <Sacro> -af volume=10db,resample=44100 :D 00:00:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> some newgrfs are just graphic replacements, not gameplay changes, they can usually be used network safe... like roadset (without bridge replacement), or catenary 00:01:07 *** spoorweg [~spoorweg@ip91352802.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:01:17 <JohnUK89> Nice command there Sacro :P 00:01:53 <Sacro> f me :) its working! 00:01:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> newstations are not just graphical 00:02:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> other sets are not network safe at all, since they are generally designed for TTDPatch 00:02:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> which does not know that kind of multiplayer problems 00:03:00 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc42.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 00:03:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> US Stations has been reported to cause desyncs 00:03:23 <Sacro> OGM is a nice format 00:03:43 <Sacro> ? 00:04:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> then there can be MiniIN patches who have not fully been tested on multiplayer, so they can also be causes of desyncs 00:04:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> daylength might be a candidate for that 00:04:40 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: lies! 00:04:51 <Sacro> thats a damn near perfect patch 00:04:52 <jp> does someone play on the MiniM servers? 00:05:10 <Sacro> jp: yes 00:05:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> and some desyncs are actually trunk bugs 00:05:28 <jp> could u give me the grf used plz? 00:05:29 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: like woodlice? 00:05:45 <Sacro> jp: depends which server 00:06:02 <jp> [TTDLX HQ] 1 [ch/at/de] [http://ttdlxhq.raysworld.ch/board/] 00:06:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> if you could hunt them down, you are welcome to post details to bugs.openttd.org 00:06:57 <jp> [TTDLX HQ] 2 [ch/at/de] [http://ttdlxhq.raysworld.ch/board/] 00:07:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's probably in german, jp 00:07:21 <jp> i know 00:07:31 <jp> i have to change the language? 00:07:31 <Sacro> does anyone here have access to oreos? 00:07:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, languages are multiplayer agnostic ;) 00:08:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> or the other way round 00:08:40 <jp> ok 00:10:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://ttdlxhq.raysworld.ch/board/showthread.php?tid=1891&pid=29739#pid29739 00:10:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> that should explain the grfs used 00:11:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> server 1 with that list 00:11:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> server 2 without grfs 00:17:23 <jp> thx 00:20:44 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-82-76.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:21:08 *** exe [~dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 00:21:17 <jp> stil sync err....:-( 00:21:37 <jp> how to set max debug level? 00:22:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> you also need the correct patch settings 00:22:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> (the picture linked in the post) 00:25:05 <jp> stil sync err....:-( 00:34:03 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-205-147.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: YOU! It was you wasn't it!?] 00:35:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> you read that daylength is set to 1 (opposing to the picture)? 00:36:25 <Sacro> bah, daylength should be at least 21 00:36:27 <Sacro> *32 00:37:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, it is not my server ;) 00:40:08 *** UnderBuilder [~usuario@168.226.107.97] has quit [Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12] 00:40:35 *** Timmaah [~axe@201.Red-83-41-209.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 00:40:37 <Timmaah> hey 00:40:43 <Timmaah> anyone know when the maglev trains come out? 00:40:54 <Timmaah> monorail just came out in 1998 00:41:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> also, try to use the grfs from the archive linked from the post 00:41:13 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC6886.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 00:41:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> Timmaah: 2020 or so 00:42:17 <Timmaah> thanks 00:42:23 <Timmaah> game only lasts 100 years right? 00:42:44 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2EBA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:43:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> depends on settings 00:43:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> with alternate grfs you can start in 1920 00:43:23 <JohnUK89> Timmah: it finishes in 2050, when it starts depends on settings 00:43:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> and the game can go till 2090 (and loop in 2090 forever) 00:43:56 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:44:12 <JohnUK89> Yeah, but the rating is put to the high scores in 2050 00:48:17 <Sacro> humm, its almost 2am 00:48:29 <Timmaah> ah k thanks 00:48:47 <JohnUK89> Sacro: yeah, kinda late lol 00:49:37 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2FC9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:50:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> 2? better make that 3 ;) 00:50:15 <JohnUK89> Eddi|zuHause2: we're in the UK ;-) 00:50:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, "we" are not ;) 00:51:03 <JohnUK89> Me and Sacro are :) 00:58:16 * Sacro yawns 00:58:27 * JohnUK89 doesn't 00:59:05 <JohnUK89> I just go to bed when I get tired :-D 00:59:29 <Sacro> me too 00:59:42 <JohnUK89> And I'm nearly there, actually 01:01:53 <Sacro> yeah 01:02:24 <JohnUK89> In fact I'm gonna go now, cya later :) 01:05:24 <Sacro> night, im going too i reckon 01:09:23 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-154-35.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:15:00 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.11.1 : http://kopete.kde.org] 01:20:51 *** coppercore [~coppercor@dpc6745112031.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:57 *** jp [~chatzilla@68.149-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006042403]] 01:27:58 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-203-51-16-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:28:45 <glx> Darkvater: it's a very old patch :) 01:28:57 *** PAStheLoD [~pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )] 01:36:45 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC51D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:37:02 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 01:43:54 <mikk36> mmyeah 01:44:09 <mikk36> just downloaded an old classic tiberian sun :) (sry for piracy) 01:44:16 <mikk36> looks gorgeous @ 1280x1024 01:58:14 <GoneWacko> D: 01:58:19 * GoneWacko owns that game twice 01:58:24 <mikk36> :) 01:59:08 *** sayno [~sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 01:59:58 <mikk36> why twice ? 02:03:30 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@pc75.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 02:08:59 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc42.host1.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:11:41 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@pc75.host1.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:11:47 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@pc75.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 02:11:55 *** mikk36[EST] is now known as mikk36 02:11:59 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc75.host1.starman.ee] has quit [] 02:12:04 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc75.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 02:24:00 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:24:38 *** DaleStan_ 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Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 07:17:01 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: -] 07:17:50 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:24:54 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: ping --urgent 07:26:03 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 07:26:51 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: rep 07:28:16 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: msg 07:32:22 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:38:54 <Darkvater> a bit out 07:42:04 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DF76.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:45:44 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: SLEEP!] 08:01:11 <peter1138> hello 08:01:16 <guru3> domo 08:01:17 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:03:28 *** netgert [Gert@80-235-89-132-dsl.prn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 08:03:38 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 08:18:18 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79a2e.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:18:22 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 08:28:52 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:28:53 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:28:56 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 08:32:00 <Bjarni> hi Dong 08:32:03 <Bjarni> *Doug 08:37:26 <Burgundavia> Bjarni: hmm, funny story at work about Dong/Doug. Seems one of my ex workmates had 500 business cards printed up with Dong instead of Doug. And then he spent an entire tradeshow handing them out 08:38:20 <Bjarni> :D 08:38:36 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 08:38:48 <MeusH> hey 08:38:57 <Bjarni> Alltaken once got a Pizza where the name was written "Dong" :-D 08:39:00 <Bjarni> hi MeusH 08:39:17 <Alltaken> LOL yes i did 08:39:49 <Alltaken> i didn't get the recipt though :( 08:39:57 <Alltaken> and hi Bjarni 08:40:24 <MeusH> Alltaken: I see brilliant sprite renderings made by users, but is there any progress with the 32bpp code? 08:40:24 <Bjarni> <Alltaken> i didn't get the recipt though :( <-- sue the pizza house 08:40:50 <Bjarni> MeusH: ask egladil for progress on the 32 bit graphic engine 08:41:04 <Bjarni> Alltaken is "just" an artist 08:41:17 <Bjarni> a good one, but he is not coding the display engine ;) 08:41:24 <Burgundavia> Alltaken: have you collected the .blend files somewhere? 08:41:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host187-62.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #openttd 08:41:51 <Wolf01> hi 08:42:01 <MiHaMiX> Alltaken: hi :) 08:42:58 <MeusH> hello Wolf01 08:43:10 <Alltaken> Ummm egladil just got a new computer (blew up a water-cooling thing on the old one) so can start coding again 08:43:27 <Bjarni> yeah 08:43:31 <Alltaken> but he lost the CPU, RAM, Vid card, TVcard, and Mobo on the old one. 08:43:36 <Alltaken> which is a whole new computer 08:43:48 <MeusH> but HDDs are allright? 08:43:49 <Bjarni> he used regular water as cooleant to save money.... bad idea when it leaks 08:43:52 <Alltaken> so that is what is happening with the 32bpp coding 08:43:53 <Bjarni> and it will leak 08:44:18 <Alltaken> and no i never collected any files...... i would love someone to though 08:44:27 <Burgundavia> yes 08:44:30 <Alltaken> i could perhaps set up an Email address to collect them all 08:44:42 <Burgundavia> I can see all this effort up in smoke becuase a few people disappear 08:44:50 <Alltaken> yeah so can i 08:45:03 <Alltaken> i would love a place online that people can upload to, incase i disapear 08:45:06 <Burgundavia> also lay out the licensing conditions for the .blend files themselves (I like GPL because other project can use it) 08:45:14 <Burgundavia> what about straight into SVN? 08:45:18 <Bjarni> you know, some railroad companies use regular water as cooling water (no antifreeze) to cool the diesel engines because it's not a question of if they leak, but how much they leak 08:45:42 <Bjarni> and that antifreeze stuff is highly toxic and expensive 08:46:18 <Bjarni> so it can be cheaper just to avoid stopping the diesel engines during the winter 08:47:57 <peter1138> if you want a blend file web-based repository, one can be made 08:49:37 <JohnUK89> Morning all :) 08:49:49 <Burgundavia> as a non-developer, non-artist, I see nothing wrong with subversion 08:49:58 <Burgundavia> the existing repo, that is 08:51:06 <Bjarni> I know of stuff, that's wrong with the trunk 08:51:15 <Bjarni> that's why we commit to it all the time ;) 08:51:55 <Darkvater> yaay, got a reply from KUDr :) 08:52:06 <Bjarni> :D 08:52:41 <Darkvater> I won't paste cause of possible NDA problems, but he's ok, but unfortunately very busy 08:52:46 <Darkvater> hopes to get back to us soon 08:53:27 <peter1138> he's done a hackykid?! 08:53:59 <peter1138> what is it with potential pbs developers.... 08:54:24 <MeusH> maybye there is a... curse of pbs 08:54:39 <MeusH> a monster without eyes comes to pbs developers at night 08:54:47 <MeusH> and eat their fingers 08:54:53 <MeusH> so they can't input the code 08:56:27 <Bjarni> <peter1138> he's done a hackykid?! <-- not really. He said that he got work to do and that he will return when he gets time 08:59:28 <stillunknown> Darkvater: he put a NDA on a conversation? 08:59:42 <Darkvater> behold 08:59:42 <Darkvater> Please tell my greetings on the channel. Hopefully back soon. 08:59:42 <Darkvater> thanks 08:59:43 <Darkvater> KUDr 08:59:45 <Darkvater> :) 08:59:53 <Bjarni> Darkvater: have you learned the answer to "why did you replace the name LDFLAGS with LIBS?"? 09:00:03 *** Diesel [~opera@86.127.95.82] has joined #openttd 09:00:12 <Bjarni> I have yet to figure that one out myself 09:00:31 <Bjarni> ahh 09:00:36 <Bjarni> free fuel :D 09:00:45 <Darkvater> Bjarni: he, I assigned it to you because as far as makefile's go I'm 0 09:00:47 <Bjarni> showing up all by itself 09:01:05 <Darkvater> peter1138: he's gone your way a bit ;) 09:01:15 <Bjarni> Darkvater: well, that change is... well, I don't see the reason 09:01:23 <Bjarni> I don't think it will break anything though 09:01:40 <stillunknown> some systems do use LDFLAGS 09:01:45 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net//files/shaddow_example_cubes_136.png how much "d" in shadow? 09:02:26 <Darkvater> Bjarni: question was about DIETLIBC mostly, if that can be added. Thought you were the makefile man here ;) 09:02:52 <Bjarni> I don't know DIETLIBC at all 09:03:28 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Quit: Be Back Later] 09:03:41 * Bjarni is waiting for TrueLight to get back 09:03:51 <Darkvater> hehe 09:04:25 <Rubidium> Bjarni: that will be a long wait 09:05:21 <Bjarni> oh right 09:05:24 <Bjarni> hmm 09:05:33 <Bjarni> maybe I can do without him then 09:05:54 <Bjarni> or find somebody else knowing DIETLIBC 09:06:00 <Bjarni> Rubidium: do you know DIETLIBC? 09:06:10 <Bjarni> Google: do you know DIETLIBC? 09:06:53 <Rubidium> Bjarni: no I don't 09:07:23 <Bjarni> ahh, found the official homepage 09:08:00 <Bjarni> "The dietlibc is a C standard library. It was developed by Felix von Leitner with the goal to compile and link programs to the smallest possible size." ... "It is mainly used in embedded devices" 09:08:12 <MeusH> may I ask for a code style advice? 09:08:13 <MeusH> heightdiff == 0 09:08:13 <MeusH> ? GuiShowTooltips(STR_MEASURE_LENGTH, display_y) 09:08:13 <MeusH> : GuiShowTooltips(STR_MEASURE_LENGTH_HEIGHTDIFF, display_y, heightdiff); 09:08:33 <MeusH> do you think it is allright to split ?: into three lines? 09:09:03 <Bjarni> yes, since they are so long. It have been done elsewhere as well 09:09:29 <MeusH> thanks 09:13:17 <peter1138> has 09:13:51 <Darkvater> that function isn't even valid 09:14:04 <Darkvater> GuiShowTooltips #1 has 2 arguments, #2 has 3 09:15:58 <MeusH> it is valid 09:16:22 <MeusH> some time ago you and peter1138 helped me with that function so it can get any number of arguments 09:16:28 <MeusH> or... up to 5 arguments 09:17:00 <Darkvater> ah, argv 09:17:01 <Darkvater> ok 09:17:10 <peter1138> heh 09:17:14 <peter1138> magic params 09:17:35 <MeusH> who is the author of autorail btw? 09:18:03 <Darkvater> ludde/dominik 09:19:06 <MeusH> allright. that isn't good 09:19:35 <MeusH> Autorail is pretty messy and I can't find a way to distinguish "diagonal" 2x1 from "normal" 2x1 09:24:04 <Bjarni> then clean it up and/or add comments :) 09:25:38 <MeusH> well thanks, but the problem is with understanding the code 09:26:38 <Bjarni> once you understand it, then ensure that other people will understand it as well 09:26:54 <peter1138> eah 09:26:56 <peter1138> +y 09:27:03 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 09:32:36 <MeusH> "* (see ASCII art in autorail.h for a visual interpretation) */" 09:32:44 <MeusH> does anyone know what happened to autorail.h? 09:32:51 <MeusH> was it merged into some rail.h? 09:34:10 <Bjarni> hmm 09:34:12 <Bjarni> investigating 09:35:49 <Bjarni> I can't find it 09:36:47 <Bjarni> the only ASCII thing I can find regarding rails is on rail_cmd.c 09:37:00 <Bjarni> but I'm not sure that is what you are looking for 09:37:08 *** Diesel [~opera@86.127.95.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:54 <MeusH> thanks, I'll take a look at that 09:41:00 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41:00 *** StarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:41:35 *** StarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:44:33 *** thys [~spoorweg@ip91352802.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:44:41 <Maedhros> MeusH: autorail.h is in the table/ directory :) 09:45:04 <MeusH> thanks :) 09:45:42 *** Diesel [~opera@86.127.17.247] has joined #openttd 09:51:11 <Wolf01> suggestion: giant screenshot of 2048x2048 and use google earth to see it 09:58:58 <Bjarni> hmm 09:59:02 <Bjarni> what format do google earth use? 09:59:33 <Wolf01> wait 10:00:26 <Wolf01> a .dat file, i think they put all images there 10:00:34 <MeusH> how about NASA WorldWind? 10:02:53 <Wolf01> if i remember right WW uses jpegs 10:05:49 <Wolf01> oh i got a new idea: double zoom level 10:06:05 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:06:08 <MeusH> I will be feature of 32bpp graphics 10:06:28 <MeusH> current "max zoom" will be half of the future "max zoom" 10:06:28 <Bjarni> YOU will be a feature of 22bpp graphics??? 10:06:32 <Wolf01> you will be a feature? 10:06:34 <Wolf01> lol 10:06:38 <MeusH> sorry, s/I/It :D 10:06:47 <Bjarni> *32 10:06:49 <Wolf01> 22? 10:07:00 <MeusH> 16? 10:07:13 <Bjarni> why not 1 bit? 10:07:18 <Trenskow> when is 0.5 to be due ? 10:07:21 <Wolf01> black & white 10:07:30 <Bjarni> that would be single minded XD 10:07:49 <JohnUK89> Trenskow: when it's done ;-) 10:08:12 <Trenskow> well, then how far is it getting along ? 10:08:29 <Wolf01> 2022 10:08:30 <Bjarni> Trenskow: maybe in 2-3 months... it depends on unknown factors such a developer time, bugs yet unknown and stuff like that 10:08:39 <Bjarni> so in reality, it's a least 6 months into the future :P 10:08:46 <Trenskow> Bjarni, nice :D 10:08:54 <Bjarni> Wolf01: you want our children to release it? 10:09:01 <Wolf01> :) 10:09:24 <Wolf01> eh, magic bridges in 2022, new map array too, why not 32bpp? 10:09:31 <Trenskow> and it'll feature the new map array, 32bit gfx ? 10:09:47 <MeusH> 32bit per pixel map array lol ;) 10:09:49 <Bjarni> no 10:10:58 <Bjarni> the current plan (subject to change without notice) is UTF-8, TGP, Bridges, PBS in addition to what the trunk contains 10:12:04 <Bjarni> oh and likely the new path thing 10:12:30 * peter1138 delegates PBS to bjarni 10:14:14 <Bjarni> that's part of the (subject to change without notice) thing 10:14:45 <Bjarni> oh one more likely feature: discontinued support for OSX 10.2 10:14:59 <JohnUK89> May I ask what Bridges actually contains? I haven't been able to look at it yet :) 10:15:09 <Bjarni> that is if nobody bothers to find out how to get the trunk to compile on 10.2 again 10:15:49 <Bjarni> JohnUK89: search the forum for the bridges over a lot of stuff tread. I think it's in the general OTTD forum 10:16:15 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: okies, will do when this apt-get (bloody things) finishes 10:17:53 <peter1138> Bjarni: you're the only os x developer... 10:18:30 <JohnUK89> peter1138: the question is, does he run OSX 1-.2? 10:18:41 <JohnUK89> 10.2* 10:20:26 <peter1138> he can 10:20:33 <peter1138> spare harddrive, switch it over... 10:20:51 <JohnUK89> Do you think he can be bothered though? Lol 10:21:04 <peter1138> probably not 10:21:04 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 10:21:07 <peter1138> he doesn't do much at all really 10:22:16 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 10:22:17 <Bjarni> <peter1138> spare harddrive, switch it over... <-- well, that's not the issue. It fails to compile 10:22:22 <JohnUK89> brb...need food 10:22:44 <Bjarni> for some reason it stops at the line "#include <new>" 10:22:46 <Bjarni> don't ask me why 10:22:53 <Bjarni> I haven't bothered to investigate it 10:23:27 <peter1138> lazy 10:23:34 <peter1138> 's just a c++ header 10:24:09 <Bjarni> I mean I haven't investigated why it works on 10.3 and newer, but not on 10.2 10:25:11 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 10:25:51 <Wolf01> where is default zoom saved? 10:26:02 <Wolf01> s/saved/set 10:27:05 <Bjarni> the default value in settings.c I guess 10:27:35 <Wolf01> why i forget every time about settings.c? 10:27:50 <Bjarni> we don't mind that 10:27:54 <Bjarni> it's not your fault 10:27:59 <Bjarni> you are Italian after all 10:28:05 * Bjarni hides 10:28:36 <Bjarni> yapf/yapf.hpp:33:15: error: new: No such file or directory <-- this is the issue I haven't bothered to investigate 10:29:03 <Wolf01> i think is not called _default_zoom_level 10:29:49 <Bjarni> the string I use to compile for 10.2 is the same as for 10.3, except for the part about what version to target 10:30:07 <Patrick`> well, there's a #include <new> on that line 10:30:17 <Bjarni> I know that 10:30:27 <Patrick`> so, yeah, is that something OSX should have or what 10:30:31 <Bjarni> but I don't get why it works on 10.3, but not 10.2 10:30:41 <Patrick`> maybe it's "new" on 10.3 10:31:02 <Wolf01> oh is in gui.h 10:31:02 <Bjarni> well, I have considered that 10:31:14 <Bjarni> and if it is, then I will not bother to backport it to 10.2 10:31:23 <Patrick`> the file itself claims to be part of GCC 10:31:34 <Wolf01> enum { 10:31:35 <Wolf01> ZOOM_IN = 0, 10:31:35 <Wolf01> ZOOM_OUT = 1, 10:31:35 <Wolf01> ZOOM_NONE = 2, // hack, used to update the button status 10:31:35 <Wolf01> }; 10:31:35 <Wolf01> what the hell? 10:31:42 <Bjarni> hmm 10:31:45 <Bjarni> and I use the same GCC file... 10:31:57 <Bjarni> err 10:31:59 <Bjarni> g++, that is 10:32:06 * blathijs just updated his working copy nearly a thousand revisions... 10:32:13 <blathijs> Has been a while, it seems :-) 10:32:31 <Patrick`> the contents are simple 10:32:43 <Patrick`> you could copy/paste and see if it compiles then 10:32:51 <Bjarni> so far the 10.2 binary for 10.2 (0.4.8) got 9 downloads and at least one of them is a test to see if the upload worked 10:33:05 <Patrick`> that's still more than zero 10:33:08 <Bjarni> the other OSX file got 196 downloads 10:33:18 <Patrick`> doesn't sourceforge have a big renderfarm for this sort of thing? 10:33:43 <Patrick`> it seems that all that new does is warn about using obsolete headers 10:33:45 <Bjarni> I should not have any problems compiling this 10:33:56 <Patrick`> what happens when you remove the line? 10:34:05 <Patrick`> (and anything that depends on it) 10:34:24 <Bjarni> I got a full set of headers for 10.2 when I installed the crosscompiling tools from Apple 10:35:09 * Bjarni decides to reinstall the headers 10:35:16 <Patrick`> hmm, so it's not actually being built on 10.2 but on a crosscompiling kit 10:35:21 <Bjarni> maybe something went wrong in the last update or something 10:35:34 <Bjarni> this computer can't boot in 10.2 10:36:33 <Bjarni> but that should not matter 10:38:04 <Bjarni> the crosscompiler is much better than regular crosscompilers because it's OSX compiling for another OSX target. They are kind of similar and Apple did a big thing out of it so it's easy to make software, that works on old systems as well 10:38:17 <Bjarni> except I don't really know what happened in this case 10:38:43 <Bjarni> I have been crosscompiling all releases since 0.4.0 or something and it didn't act up until now 10:38:45 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DF76.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 10:39:27 <Bjarni> the only other time it had problems was then 10.2 itself failed to compile as well and I think that is also the case here 10:39:51 <MeusH> bbl 10:39:54 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45:28 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DF76.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:46:06 <Bjarni> no, reinstalling the libs didn't change anything (I didn't really expect it to, but you never know) 10:49:20 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 10:49:24 <MeusH> back 10:49:41 <JohnUK89> Back as well 10:49:44 <peter1138> Bjarni: you appear to be confusing OS X with Windows... 10:49:44 <Gonozal_VIII> what is the difference between debug and release build? 10:49:53 <peter1138> one is a debug build 10:49:58 <peter1138> one is a release build 10:50:30 <Gonozal_VIII> so what's the difference except the name? 10:50:37 <Tefad> ARGH 10:50:45 <JohnUK89> The debug one tends to be more buggy :P 10:50:47 <Tefad> debug is usually slower and has information to help people fix bugs. 10:51:10 <Tefad> however, sometimes there are bugs that are based on memory locations, and one bug may affect one and not another. 10:51:17 * Tefad shrugs 10:51:26 <JohnUK89> (I don't actually know, so ignore me) :) 10:51:29 <peter1138> we don't have bugs 10:51:33 <peter1138> we have 'features' 10:52:12 <Gonozal_VIII> would a debug build help to find out why the multiplayer desyncs sometimes? 10:52:26 <peter1138> not really 10:55:26 <Gonozal_VIII> i often play openttd miniin with a friend and we get desynct quite often... part of it seemed to be caused by the usstations newgrf but no idea what causes the rest 10:56:35 <Wolf01> why in the zoom function there are some controls with ZOOM_ and other with the number directly? 10:57:21 <Rubidium> because they are probably not converted yet to ZOOM_... 10:58:15 <Bjarni> <peter1138> Bjarni: you appear to be confusing OS X with Windows... <-- what??? 10:59:25 <Gonozal_VIII> some disconnects occured while building a bridge over water, others when there was a big trafic jam on the main line but we got also desynct without doing anything 10:59:41 <Bjarni> oh the reinstalling thing... well short of investigating the problem, it was a 5 click thing to do, so I didn't really lose anything when trying 11:03:09 <Gonozal_VIII> we both have 2mbit dsl with ping reply around 20-30 ms so the connection should be more than good enough its also exactly the same game version/newgrf order in cfg etc.. 11:05:38 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:46 <blathijs> what happened to CIA? 11:06:53 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 11:07:13 <Rubidium> it's still in the queue to be transfered to here, I guess 11:07:23 <JohnUK89> blathjis:he's still on freenode 11:08:18 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 11:08:21 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 11:11:11 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:13:51 <blathijs> JohnUK89: ah, right :-) 11:20:31 *** dupier [id11@client-87-247-84-59.inturbo.lt] has joined #openttd 11:21:20 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 11:28:31 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-199-168.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:30:49 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:31:04 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:31:04 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176124047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:31:35 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 11:36:19 <ln-> http://www.ie7.com/ 11:37:46 <hylje> how witty 11:47:55 <MeusH> bbl 11:47:57 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:48:59 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 11:50:16 <Wolf01> mmm i don't know why i'm trying to put another zoom out instead another zoom in 11:50:25 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:52:54 *** UE|sleepingtiem [MiniUrban@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 11:57:19 *** UserErr0r [MiniUrban@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:57:58 <roboman> gnight 11:58:04 *** roboman is now known as robobed 12:02:38 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-154-35.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:02:47 * Wolf01 hides 12:04:09 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 12:04:39 * JohnUK89 runs 12:04:53 * Eddi|zuHause2 walks calmly 12:05:44 * XeryusTC puts on a helmet and ducks 12:06:07 *** tron_ [~tron@p54A3FE1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:09:19 <Sacro> XeryusTC: hehe, you look silly with ducks on 12:09:43 <XeryusTC> yes, but they do protect me :) 12:10:59 <JohnUK89> Right, I'm going to attempt to install the nvidia drivers again lol 12:11:14 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 12:11:17 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [] 12:11:37 <JohnUK89> OpenGL is too slooooow without then :-X 12:11:58 <JohnUK89> them* 12:12:14 <Wolf01> mmm i have a great problem with the zoom 12:13:01 *** Gorre` [dik@ip-89-102-198-129.karneval.cz] has joined #openttd 12:13:08 <Gorre`> morning .. 12:13:27 <JohnUK89> Gorre`: morning (afternoon) :P 12:14:36 <Gorre`> Hi John 12:14:54 <Gorre`> Im planning a "great announcement" (chicht) of my newest blender job, the water supply ... when its uploaded ... 12:16:51 <JohnUK89> Lol, how long's that gonna take 12:17:30 <Gorre`> Well ... 12:17:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> "until it's done" 12:17:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> why do you even bother asking that question? ;) 12:18:02 <JohnUK89> Eddi|zuHause2: because I'm a n00b ;-) 12:18:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> well... that explains it ;) 12:18:24 <Gorre`> I need one more hour to render three 1024x previews (construction phases incl.) 12:19:19 <XeryusTC> Gorre`: why do you want such big previews? 12:19:44 <Gorre`> Big? Well, actually, that preview is scalled down four times. 12:20:07 *** Alltaken_ [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 12:20:16 <Gorre`> Its a factory, dont expect that factory would be two times bigger then common family house. 12:21:05 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 12:22:32 <Wolf01> who want to help me a little with zoom levels? 12:24:55 <Sacro> Wolf01: move your head closer to the object 12:25:22 <JohnUK89> Sacro: Lol 12:25:30 <JohnUK89> What if he wants to zoom out? :P 12:25:47 <Sacro> JohnUK89: duh, move further away 12:25:54 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:26:05 <JohnUK89> You never told him that 12:26:07 *** Alltaken_ is now known as Alltaken 12:26:30 <Sacro> humm, the intynut is missing 12:27:31 <Wolf01> sacro, thank you, i never thought about it 12:28:03 <Gorre`> Ok, my graphics sux, no one would ever like to just a single factory has a size of 7mb in png. :-( 12:28:35 <Tefad> shrink i then? 12:28:55 <XeryusTC> Gorre`: you're rendering it in 32 bit right? 12:29:40 <Gorre`> Im using alltaken's lights settings 12:30:12 <Sacro> Wolf01: :) 12:30:24 <Sacro> $me->work(':('); 12:30:31 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-154-35.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:32:56 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/62176 <-- I'm on qdb in a quote I didn't know about.... 12:32:56 <Bjarni> how did that happen? 12:33:28 <Bjarni> well, I can remember this episode, but not that it ended up on qdb 12:35:23 <Wolf01> search for sacro on qdb 12:35:35 <MeusH> * Sorry, your search query returned no results. 12:36:04 <Bjarni> I'm there in more than one quote 12:36:21 <Wolf01> no, search for all, not approved only 12:37:18 <MeusH> Bjarni is in 4 approved 12:37:19 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: lol :D 12:37:25 <MeusH> Bjarni's a celebrity! 12:37:50 <Bjarni> hahaha 12:38:08 <XeryusTC> someone should tell Bjarni to get a life :P 12:38:29 <Bjarni> When I typed Sacro, it ended up as sa and it showed savant as the word I might be typing :D 12:38:39 <Bjarni> in case you don't know it, savant is the name of the condition Rainman got 12:39:30 <MeusH> who is Rainman? 12:39:32 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:32 *** robobed [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:45 <Bjarni> ... 12:39:45 * Bjarni slaps MeusH 12:40:21 <Bjarni> Haven't you watched Rainman with Tom Crouse and Dustin Hoffman? 12:40:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> Rainman is Sacro light ;) 12:40:52 <MeusH> Rayman 12:40:55 <Bjarni> where Dustin is some sort of special guy, who can't really interact with other people, lives in a special home and can't forget anything 12:40:59 <MeusH> I know 12:41:06 <MeusH> IIRC he's rayman 12:41:18 <Bjarni> Raymond ;) 12:41:28 <Bjarni> hmm 12:42:07 <MeusH> arrggh 12:42:08 <Bjarni> the guy they used to base Rainman on is now known as the real life Rainman. He lives in Salt Lake City.... Vorcinous lives in Salt Lake City..... 12:42:28 * MeusH wonders why is the "Rainman" movie title translated to "Rayman" in Polish 12:42:28 <Wolf01> ok, now there isn't sacro, i can ask again: who want to help me a little with zoom levels? 12:42:29 <Bjarni> we got a famous visitor :D 12:42:53 <MeusH> I may help you, depending on what do you need 12:43:09 <Wolf01> i'm trying to add another zoom in level 12:43:14 <Bjarni> MeusH: because Polish translators don't know about rain in sunny California? 12:43:15 <Wolf01> and maybe another zoom out level 12:43:29 <Wolf01> (for bigger maps) 12:43:36 *** Guest56 [Gono@N709P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:43:46 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has left #openttd [] 12:43:46 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 12:43:46 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 12:43:46 <MeusH> I'll try to help you when I'm back 12:44:06 <MeusH> cya guys 12:44:08 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:45:46 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/63139 <-- I like this one. It was a random line from Sacro and I just picked it up :D 12:48:45 <JohnUK89> Haha 12:49:12 <Darkvater> :O 12:49:20 <Darkvater> I got an email from the editor of Gamestar Hungary 12:49:41 <Darkvater> well, we did :) 12:50:22 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N755P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:24 <Bjarni> forward it to me please 12:50:30 <Darkvater> no 12:50:39 <Darkvater> it's in Hungarian 12:51:10 <Bjarni> and while I wait for it, I will try to figure out what Gamestar Hungary is ;) 12:51:17 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: than forward to me :D 12:51:40 <Darkvater> game-magazine 12:51:42 <Bjarni> oh 12:51:54 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:56 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: and we are mentioned in gamestar? :D 12:52:24 <Darkvater> no, he just tells us he loves ottd, but has some bugs he'd like sorted out :) 12:52:39 <Bjarni> well, I presume you might understand the contents of it, so you can tell what it is about then 12:53:48 <Bjarni> well 12:53:48 <Bjarni> could be worse ;) 12:54:39 <Bjarni> so will you open bug reports for those bugs, so we can deal with them? 12:56:18 <Darkvater> 2 are no bugs, 1 is a feature request ;) 12:56:29 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: no, he'll reserve the exclusive rights to deal with them :D 12:56:35 <Rubidium> Darkvater: r5906 introduced an assertion; http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/bug.sav and change the signals direction 12:56:54 <Darkvater> great, I sent tron_ to hunt for a savegame like that ;) 12:56:58 <Bjarni> you are trying to steal my fame??? 12:57:24 <Bjarni> you leave me no choice but to do this 12:57:28 * Bjarni condemns Darkvater 12:57:55 *** Bjarni was kicked from #openttd by Darkvater [out you go] 12:57:55 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79a2e.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:57:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 12:58:19 <Bjarni> wtf 12:58:25 <Bjarni> I got autoreconnect on? 12:58:33 <Bjarni> didn't knew that 12:58:34 <Patrick`> Pfft, vornicus isn't the rain man 12:58:58 <Bjarni> he isn't? 12:59:01 <Bjarni> :( 12:59:09 <Bjarni> hmm 12:59:23 <Bjarni> then how do we make it look like we got famous people in here 12:59:24 <Patrick`> yeah, there's more than one dsl connection in salt lake city 12:59:35 <Patrick`> invite sid meir 12:59:41 <Bjarni> Utah got DSL? 12:59:50 <Patrick`> ok, morse code 13:00:08 <Bjarni> hmm 13:00:21 <Bjarni> and why would we invite Sid Meier? 13:00:24 <Bjarni> and why would he come here? 13:00:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> IP over morse code? sounds fun ;) 13:01:08 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:17 <OwenS> 0 = dot 1 = dash :P 13:01:38 <Bjarni> well 13:01:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> OwenS: that is not morse code 13:01:54 <Bjarni> morse code is the lowest two layers. You can always add TCP/IP on top of that 13:02:15 <OwenS> Lowest 1 13:02:30 <Bjarni> actually morse code is only the link layer 13:02:32 <OwenS> Layer 2 is switch 13:02:34 <OwenS> Yep 13:02:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> i always thought IP was already on layer 2 13:02:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> and TCP on layer 3 13:03:20 <OwenS> Cat5e is L1, Ethernet is L2, IP is L3, apps are L4 13:03:22 <Bjarni> IP is the 3rd layer, right? 13:03:35 <Bjarni> app are L5 13:03:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> it was 7 layers, or not? 13:04:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> bah... networking class was sooo long ago 13:04:06 <Bjarni> that depends on if you want the model with the session layer or not 13:04:13 *** Alltaken_ [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 13:04:15 *** Alltaken_ is now known as Alltaken 13:04:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> and 90% of the time we were just chatting ;) 13:04:30 <Bjarni> 7 with the session layer and 5 without it 13:04:30 <Bjarni> I forgot the name of the other "extra" layer 13:04:32 <Bjarni> never used it 13:05:01 <tron_> Eddi|zuHause2: Please Do Not Throw Salami Pizza Away 13:05:14 <Bjarni> app, transport, network, link, physical 13:05:43 <Bjarni> app, presentation, session, transport, network, link, physical <-- if you want 7 layers 13:05:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> tron_: how could you even imply such blasphemy? 13:06:35 <tron_> Eddi|zuHause2: it's mnemonic for the 7 ISO/OSI layers 13:06:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> i am never good with mnemonics 13:07:04 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:07:22 <tron_> Please Do Not Throw Salami Pizza Away 13:07:39 <tron_> Physical, Data link, Network, Transport, Session, Presentation, Application 13:07:58 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 13:07:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> i find that mnemonics are harder to remember than the things they describe 13:08:12 <Bjarni> nice one 13:08:14 <Bjarni> I need to remember that one :) 13:08:40 <tron_> Bjarni: i won't tell the german version of it (; 13:08:47 <Bjarni> :( 13:08:57 <Bjarni> why not? 13:09:19 * Bjarni kicks everybody under 18 13:09:32 <Bjarni> tron_: now you can tell it ;) 13:10:02 *** Diesel [~opera@86.127.17.247] has left #openttd [] 13:16:23 <Alltaken> Ottdsmut 13:18:32 <Darkvater> ok peeps, very serious question 13:18:51 <Darkvater> you all remember the industry directory window, where you can sort industries by, amongst others, %of transportation 13:19:08 <Darkvater> right now those are sorted by the average of both cargos 13:19:29 <Darkvater> eg a farm is somewhere on the list by (%wheat + %livestock)/2 13:19:44 <Darkvater> now do we prefer this method, or just taking the MINIMUM of %cargo 13:19:51 *** exe [~dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 13:20:55 <Belugas> or maybe making it an option? Min, Max or average? 13:20:59 <stillunknown> avarage with a warning color if the transportation is uneven 13:21:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> minimum with one sort order, and maximum with the reverse order ;) 13:21:47 <tron_> not more options for something like this 13:21:57 <tron_> stillunknown: the % are pretty much always unequal 13:22:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> pleases everyone ;) 13:22:29 <stillunknown> or maybe a warning colour if one resource is not transported at all 13:22:44 <tron_> this wasn't the question 13:22:59 <tron_> Eddi|zuHause2: it's not a reverse order then 13:23:04 <Darkvater> of course any other sorting criteria, WITH argumentation 13:23:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> or ad a button... the current one sorts for first cargo, and the new one sorts for last cargo (if any) 13:23:14 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: kuldom :) 13:23:40 <Darkvater> Eddi|zuHause2: that is what Belugas said basically 13:24:09 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: mar valaszoltam neki mind a harom pontban 13:24:19 <stillunknown> maybe a 60%/95% notation 13:34:18 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: a 3. javaslat nem is rossz :) 13:34:24 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: a 2. mar reg megvan 13:34:42 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: az 1. pedig nem bug :) es afaik konnyen modosithato 13:34:51 <Darkvater> tum 13:35:03 <MiHaMiX> tum? 13:35:21 <Darkvater> tudom 13:35:23 <Darkvater> ;) 13:35:30 <Tefad> what a weird mix of languages 13:36:01 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: az inkabb 'tom', nemde? :D 13:36:16 <MiHaMiX> Tefad: it's hungarian :) 13:36:16 <Darkvater> nekem csak tum 13:36:25 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: de akkor nem vagy kompat velem:-( 13:36:30 <Tefad> with an english acronym. 13:37:09 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: please upgrade your software 13:37:11 <Darkvater> ;p 13:37:20 <tron_> Darkvater, MiHaMiX: if you want to talk hungarian, do it by pm 13:37:59 <MiHaMiX> tron_: if you want to shut the fuck up, please do so now :P 13:38:16 <Tefad> burn 13:38:49 *** wolfy [~wolf@d197184.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:40:16 *** thys [~spoorweg@ip91352802.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 13:40:50 <tron_> MiHaMiX: it's VERY impolite to talk in a foreign language in the presence of others, so YOU better STFU 13:41:18 <OwenS> :( the CIA bot still sits in the Freenode chanel 13:41:27 <OwenS> (Yeah, I just noticed) 13:42:02 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@AC8F1603.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 13:42:49 <MiHaMiX> tron_: i think we didn't do as much noise with Darkvater in the last few minutes as you did with this "don't do this" thread... 13:43:15 <MiHaMiX> tron_: beside this, it's not usual from us to speak in hungarian here... 13:43:29 <Darkvater> guys are you done yet? 13:43:32 <Darkvater> jezus 13:43:42 <MiHaMiX> tron_: so I don't think you should instruct us 13:43:50 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: ? 13:43:55 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@d197184.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:44:16 <tron_> MiHaMiX: i just said EXACTLY one line that you should do it per PM, you're making it a drama 13:44:23 <Darkvater> there was absolutely no need to be so rude in the first place 13:45:31 <tron_> darkvater: i was not rude in any way, he told me to "shut the fuck up" 13:45:42 <Darkvater> that was directed to MiHaMiX 13:46:04 <tron_> and no, the ":P" doesn't make it funny 13:48:10 <MiHaMiX> tron_: but.. at least I was replied in english :P 13:48:19 <Darkvater> ok, this is totally gay 13:48:27 <Born_Acorn> :o 13:48:43 <Darkvater> the tunnel crashes because GetVehicleOutOfTunnelTile() is not called with the front engine... 13:48:46 * Darkvater goes to ponder 13:49:22 * Belugas goes to coffee 13:51:46 <Rubidium> Darkvater: GetVehicleOutOfTunnelTile used to have for(init;;update) if (condition) break, now it is init; do {update} while (condition) 13:52:34 <Darkvater> Rubidium: getvhe.. ALWAYS returned v->tile 13:54:36 <Bjarni> there is a town called Coffee in Canada? 13:54:46 <Bjarni> oh btw, if you missed last night, here is the "log" 13:54:46 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/64207 13:54:48 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/64208 13:54:50 <Bjarni> that's more or less what happened ;) 13:55:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> Bjarni: you left out the lollypop part :p 13:56:10 <Bjarni> hahaha. I connected to freenode, but didn't connect to any channels at all 13:56:12 <Bjarni> now I flooded out it :D 13:56:13 <Darkvater> Rubidium: I mean what use is a function that always returns v->tile? 13:56:18 <Bjarni> it was not suitable for public display 13:56:45 <Bjarni> then again, nothing on qdb is suitable for public display 13:57:33 <Darkvater> Rubidium: I mean you agree that's nonsense? 13:57:43 <hylje> nonsense nonsense nonsense 13:57:50 * Darkvater slaps hylje 13:58:10 *** jp [~chatzilla@183.147-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #openttd 13:59:58 * hylje counterattacks with a hammer 14:00:43 * Bjarni picks up a toothpick 14:00:52 * Bjarni stabs hylje 14:00:55 <Bjarni> no fighting in here 14:00:59 * hylje absorbs the attack 14:01:03 <Rubidium> returning always v->tile does not seem ok 14:01:14 <hylje> godmodding ftw. 14:01:31 * Bjarni picks up a large trout 14:01:38 <Born_Acorn> The bad grammar and punctuation in #64207 made it more like it was something from MSN! 14:01:44 * Bjarni slaps hylje with the large trout 14:02:32 <hylje> it is? 14:02:57 <hylje> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330016354494 ok, the 4chan random box. current bid at 50 million $ 14:03:03 <hylje> what the fuck, seriously. 14:03:16 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: how's your stomach today? :P 14:04:56 <Darkvater> great, revision 1 crap :s 14:10:25 <Rubidium> http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/tunnel_signal_bug.diff <- this does NOT always return v->tile and seems to solve the assertion 14:11:50 <Darkvater> so check the first tile as well? 14:11:52 <Darkvater> hmm 14:12:36 <Rubidium> yes 14:14:41 <Darkvater> well it does always return v->tile :) 14:14:52 <Darkvater> at least in the test-cases with assertion 14:15:09 <Bjarni> <XeryusTC> Bjarni: how's your stomach today? :P <-- better than yesterday, but not perfectly alright 14:15:26 <Darkvater> ugh, shit 14:15:30 <Darkvater> forgot #if ;p 14:16:02 <peter1138> grumble 14:16:11 <peter1138> colleague appears to have "no woman no cry" on repeat, or something 14:16:38 * peter1138 ponders something with which to retaliate 14:16:55 <Darkvater> Rubidium: doesn't work, cause a roadvehicle now can't find the depot when told so from inside a tunnel with yapf off 14:16:58 * XeryusTC is off to update FC5 to the latest stable 14:17:00 *** jp [~chatzilla@183.147-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006042403]] 14:17:09 <Rubidium> hmm... 14:17:17 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:32 * peter1138 ponders art of noise 14:18:26 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 14:18:29 <Darkvater> hmm but it does find the end of the tunnel 14:18:35 <MeusH> hi again 14:18:47 <peter1138> is there a light? 14:18:57 <Darkvater> ;0 14:19:14 <Belugas> might be a train... 14:23:21 <Darkvater> Rubidium: ok, it seems to work. Get it in and let's see who else bitches about it 14:23:48 <Wolf01> hi MeusH, can you help me with zoom levels now? 14:23:59 <MeusH> I think so 14:24:18 <stillunknown> isn't autoreplacing a diesel engine with an electric engine possible? 14:24:26 <Rubidium> Darkvater: ok 14:25:11 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5BE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:25:13 <Wolf01> ok, i found the code a little incomprensible: 14:25:14 <Wolf01> 0 to zoom in 14:25:14 <Wolf01> 1 to zoom out 14:25:14 <Wolf01> 2 to not zoom 14:25:14 <Wolf01> that's right? 14:25:52 <Bjarni> it is 14:25:54 <Bjarni> stillunknown: you are like the 24524th guy, who failed to click the pulldown menu :p 14:26:25 <hylje> that means that the pulldown menu isnt apparent enough 14:26:45 <MeusH> stillunknown, it is 14:26:45 <MeusH> however, the depot must be electrified 14:27:20 <Bjarni> yeah, that as well 14:27:34 *** Zoiah [Zoiah@matryoshka.zoiah.net] has joined #openttd 14:27:45 <Bjarni> you see, the game prevents you from getting electric engines on a non-electrified line ;) 14:28:21 <stillunknown> been a while since i played openttd, i think i even used that menu in the past :-) 14:29:41 <Wolf01> ZOOM_IN/OUT/NONE are also the 3 current zoom levels, aren't they? 14:29:54 <MeusH> yes 14:30:06 <MeusH> but I don't get it 14:30:12 <Wolf01> gui.h 14:30:12 <MeusH> is it in settings.c? 14:30:15 <MeusH> okay 14:30:16 <MeusH> thanks 14:30:40 <Wolf01> ok, now i want: ZOOM_IN_MAX/IN/NONE/OUT/OUT_MAX 14:31:03 <Wolf01> ZOOM_IN should be the current max zoom level 14:31:19 <Wolf01> and ZOOM_NONE the current middle zoom level 14:32:01 <MeusH> take a look at DoZoomInOutWindow in main_gui.c 14:32:05 <MeusH> it says more 14:32:14 <Wolf01> yes i'm here 14:33:19 <MeusH> I understand it that way: ZOOM_NONE is the most far away camera 14:33:30 <MeusH> and ZOOM_OUT is closer to "earth" than ZOOM_NONE 14:34:19 <Wolf01> yes, NONE is wrong i think 14:35:35 <MeusH> so you want to make additional two zoom levels? 14:35:38 <MeusH> brb 14:35:39 <Wolf01> yes 14:37:22 <MeusH> I'm back but I'm leaving now 14:37:34 <MeusH> take a look at how is zoom out handled 14:37:43 <MeusH> and try to add additional zoom out 14:37:51 <MeusH> since it seems to be easier to do 14:37:59 <Wolf01> i already done that, at least for buttons 14:38:05 <MeusH> the naming should be changed 14:38:13 <Wolf01> now i get asserts everywhere 14:38:16 <MeusH> because now ZOOM_OUT and ZOOM_NONE are wrong 14:38:32 <MeusH> hmm I'll be back in 1,5 hours I think, so cya later 14:38:35 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:39:50 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-129.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 14:42:08 *** Gorre` [dik@ip-89-102-198-129.karneval.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:42:22 <Darkvater> wtf's wrong with CIA? Even the website is down 14:42:24 <Darkvater> but not anymore 14:42:25 <Darkvater> he 14:42:29 <hylje> broken shit! 14:43:14 <OwenS> Isn't CIA-5 still sitting in the old channe;? 14:43:24 <Darkvater> wtf 14:43:29 <Darkvater> it isn't even requested here 14:43:41 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-129.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 14:43:57 <Darkvater> at least the stats don't show 14:44:12 * Darkvater tries to request l'bot 14:44:22 <Darkvater> peter1138: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/275 14:44:24 <Rubidium> TrueLight: said he had requested the change 14:44:43 <Darkvater> yes, but the site says otherwise :s 14:45:26 <Darkvater> ah micah seems to be away or something 14:45:43 * Darkvater retries 14:46:32 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76025.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:47:42 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C10.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:48:44 <Darkvater> there, mail sent 14:49:08 <Darkvater> peter1138: ping, pm, flags&important_T 14:49:20 <peter1138> uh huh 14:50:02 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 14:50:04 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [] 14:50:56 *** exe [~dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 14:55:45 *** Gorre` [dik@ip-89-102-198-129.karneval.cz] has joined #openttd 14:58:11 <Gorre`> (Im annoyed that nobody has seen my new blender at the forums :,( ) 14:59:35 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 15:00:17 <Darkvater> Gorre`: people HAVE seen it, it's been downloaded over 20 times it seems 15:00:47 <Darkvater> he, I like the new-old oil rig 15:01:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-142-122.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 15:01:28 * Darkvater starts drolling at construction #c 15:01:54 <Darkvater> haha 15:02:02 <Darkvater> Gorre`: that looks more like an oil-refinery ;p 15:02:13 <Belugas> very good job Gorre` :) 15:02:18 <Darkvater> stunning though 15:02:22 <Belugas> and i have to agree with Darkvater 15:02:45 <Belugas> the helipad helps thinking that way ;) 15:03:14 <Darkvater> the funny thing is, all water supplies I have seen up until now were just a big green grassy field with a single small shed 15:03:22 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:03:28 <Darkvater> so I have no idea where the concept of ttd's water supply comes from 15:04:53 <peter1138> desalination plant, perhaps 15:05:04 <peter1138> but they should be near sea water... 15:05:05 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 15:05:08 <peter1138> (i think) 15:05:29 <Gorre`> Well, thats because I used my old oil rig blend file ... 15:05:35 <Gorre`> thanks anyway 15:05:36 <JohnUK89> Ello :) 15:06:50 <Bjarni> <Darkvater> peter1138: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/275 <-- looks ok to me 15:06:52 <Bjarni> I planned on doing that once peter1138 finished that road refit command 15:06:54 <Bjarni> at least, that was my plan when I wrote this in the first place ;) 15:08:49 <Gorre`> Well, Im calling it a water supply, not an oil rig because somebody told me there (xy months ago) that it doesnt look like an oil rig (despite of the material laying on the ground). 15:09:46 <Bjarni> hi JohnUK89 15:09:48 <Gorre`> His argument was that 95% of oil rig is built on the shore and then transported and placed on the pillars, which is true and doesnt fit my concept. 15:09:54 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: ello 15:09:59 <Bjarni> haven't I seen you before? 15:10:09 <Bjarni> or are you new to this channel? 15:10:11 <JohnUK89> I don't know, think you have 15:10:17 <Bjarni> hi JohnUK89 15:10:22 <JohnUK89> May have seen me on Freenode... 15:10:36 <Bjarni> nahh 15:10:39 <JohnUK89> You said hi twice ;-) 15:10:41 <Bjarni> I don't end up on places that sucks so much 15:10:57 <JohnUK89> I dunno then...do I know you? 15:11:25 <Bjarni> how should I know what goes on in YOUR head? 15:11:44 <JohnUK89> You shouldn't :P 15:11:47 <lws1984> Romulan mind probes! 15:11:57 <JohnUK89> Would be a mind reader if you did :) 15:12:10 <JohnUK89> lws1984: nah I'm not into Star Wreck ;-) 15:12:14 <Bjarni> or telepathic 15:12:21 <lws1984> wreck? 15:12:27 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: same difference 15:12:27 <lws1984> ooh, you mean trek. 15:12:36 <lws1984> NOT the same diffrence. 15:12:36 <JohnUK89> lws1984: yes 15:12:50 <Bjarni> lws1984: http://www.starwreck.com/ 15:13:10 <JohnUK89> Hehe 15:13:21 <lws1984> aah yes, star wrck 15:13:33 <lws1984> gah, my keyboard is wrecking 15:14:03 * JohnUK89 refuses to let Live For Sped habits come into #openttd 15:14:05 <JohnUK89> Speed* 15:15:09 <Bjarni> JohnUK89: well, since you are new to this channel, I will give you a warning instead of a ban. You are not allowed to sell speed or any other drugs in here 15:15:22 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: I wasn't planning to ;-) 15:15:48 <JohnUK89> Live For Speed is a car racing simulator :-D 15:19:52 *** JohnUK89 is now known as lolman 15:20:22 <lolman> Felt like a change of name :P 15:22:44 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 15:28:50 *** GoneWack1 [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:30:43 <Bjarni> we really need CIA to be here to tell us about the commits 15:30:53 <Bjarni> either that or DorpsGek should take over 15:31:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 15:32:24 <tron_> it unbelievable that moving a damn bot takes more than three days 15:32:46 <Bjarni> well 15:33:13 <lolman> Bjarni: since CIA-5 is taking so long, I reckon DorpsGek should take over...not up to me though :) 15:33:33 <blathijs> DorpsGek? 15:33:53 <Bjarni> lolman: only issue is that if DorpsGek needs to take over, then TrueLight needs to add that to his bot code and he is away until Friday :p 15:34:06 <Bjarni> !seen blathijs 15:34:06 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 15:34:13 <Bjarni> that one 15:34:15 <lolman> Bjarni: well that doesn't help... 15:34:28 <blathijs> ah 15:34:51 <Bjarni> !seen darkssh 15:34:52 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, I found 3 matches to your query: Darkvater, DarkSSH, Darkvaer. Darkvater (~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl) was last seen joining #openttd 2 hours 51 minutes ago (15.08. 12:43). Darkvater is still there. 15:35:18 <Bjarni> Darkvaer? 15:35:39 *** Eer [~bla@82.170.61.22] has joined #openttd 15:35:40 <Bjarni> !seen lolman 15:35:40 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 15:35:46 <lolman> Hehe 15:35:46 <Eer> hiya 15:35:48 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:35:51 *** Eer is now known as BobRoss 15:35:51 <Bjarni> !seen johnuk89 15:35:53 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, JohnUK89 (~john@149.254.200.215) was last seen changing his/her nick to lolman on #openttd 16 minutes ago (15.08. 15:19). lolman is still there. 15:35:59 <hylje> lolman! 15:36:07 <hylje> where you left omgman? 15:36:09 <lolman> hylje! 15:36:22 <Bjarni> yeah, I gave him that name 15:36:23 <lolman> I dunno! he ran off! 15:36:28 <lolman> !seen omgman 15:36:28 <DorpsGek> lolman, omgman? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember omgman. 15:36:33 <Bjarni> somehow it appeared to fit him well 15:36:39 <lolman> Nope! he's gone lol 15:36:43 <Bjarni> !tits 15:37:01 <Bjarni> !seen tits 15:37:02 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, I don't remember seeing tits. 15:37:09 <Bjarni> !seen babes 15:37:10 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, babes? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember babes. 15:37:12 <lolman> hehe 15:37:36 <Bjarni> it's IRC aright 15:37:51 <lolman> Bjarni: I'm still getting used to IRC :P 15:37:58 <Bjarni> !seen porn 15:38:00 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, I don't remember seeing porn. 15:38:15 <Bjarni> and he is on the internet??? 15:38:27 <lolman> Bjarni: lolol 15:38:30 <lolman> -ol 15:38:43 <lolman> dunno how me fingers hit ol twice :-\ 15:39:03 <Bjarni> you should have a "lol" key on your keyboard 15:39:19 <Bjarni> then it would be lollol though 15:39:25 <lolman> Bjarni: is there a program to make keyboard macro under Linux? :) 15:39:37 <Bjarni> hmm 15:39:40 <Bjarni> I guess so 15:39:49 <lolman> +s 15:39:51 <lolman> lol 15:39:53 <Bjarni> but don't ask me how to get it 15:40:07 <lolman> Oh well, just a thought :) 15:41:23 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:41:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:41:34 * lolman hides 15:41:51 * lws1984 puts a large neon sign over lolmanm 15:42:02 <lws1984> *lolman 15:42:17 <lolman> Oh bugger 15:43:28 * lws1984 creats a large glowing arrow and points it at lolman 15:44:24 <lolman> hopefully brb... 15:44:28 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:49:14 <Bjarni> well, this time he did a better job at hiding 15:49:18 <Bjarni> !seen lolman 15:49:20 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, lolman (~john@149.254.200.215) was last seen quitting #openttd 4 minutes ago (15.08. 15:44) stating "Quit: leaving" after spending 39 minutes there. 15:49:34 <Bjarni> !seen johnuk89 15:49:36 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, I found 3 matches to your query: lolman, JohnUK89, john. lolman (~john@149.254.200.215) was last seen quitting #openttd 5 minutes ago (15.08. 15:44) stating "Quit: leaving" after spending 39 minutes there. 15:49:51 <lws1984> !seen my_life 15:49:52 <DorpsGek> lws1984, I don't remember seeing my_life. 15:49:54 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:50:00 <lws1984> it's not yours, it's MINE! 15:50:05 <SpComb> !seen DorpsGek 15:50:06 <DorpsGek> SpComb, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 15:50:13 <Bjarni> :D 15:50:15 <lws1984> !seen lws1984 15:50:16 <DorpsGek> lws1984, do you have a split personality? *eg* 15:50:18 <SpComb> what a silly message 15:50:19 <lws1984> hehe 15:50:26 <SpComb> not nearly as good as patchbot 15:50:26 <lws1984> !seen Bjarni 15:50:28 <DorpsGek> lws1984, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 15:50:34 <Bjarni> !seen developers 15:50:34 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, you know that the length of nicks is limited, don't you? 15:50:38 <lws1984> no, DorpsGek has got attitude 15:50:39 <SpComb> !seen lws1984 15:50:40 <DorpsGek> SpComb, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 15:50:44 <SpComb> wait, that's just silly 15:50:49 <SpComb> it should say when they last spoke... 15:50:55 <lws1984> I'm right here, you loon! 15:50:55 * SpComb lunches on DorpsGek 15:51:09 <SpComb> !seen izhirahider 15:51:10 <DorpsGek> SpComb, Hum... don't you think this nick is a bit long? ^_^ 15:51:12 <Bjarni> !seen devs 15:51:14 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, devs? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember devs. 15:51:23 <Bjarni> I'M RIGHT HERE!!!! 15:51:28 <SpComb> !seen me 15:51:28 <Bjarni> stupid bot :p 15:51:30 <lws1984> !seen my_boss_cheating_on_his_wife_with_his_secretary 15:51:31 <DorpsGek> SpComb, I don't remember seeing me. 15:51:33 <DorpsGek> lws1984, you know that the length of nicks is limited, don't you? 15:51:39 <SpComb> !seen Rexxie 15:51:41 <DorpsGek> SpComb, if you can't see Rexxie here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^ 15:51:46 <lws1984> err. actually, I have seen that, and it's a dreadful sight 15:52:08 <Rexxie> that's not very nice :p 15:52:11 <SpComb> DorpsGek is rather silly 15:52:26 <lws1984> he was, until you lunched on him 15:52:31 <lws1984> now he's rather digested! 15:52:35 * SpComb likes patchbot more 15:52:43 <Bjarni> it's a new script, that is more or less coded in an afternoon 15:52:55 <Bjarni> he will improve when TrueLight gets back 15:53:43 <hylje> what language 15:53:45 <Bjarni> btw it got a nice feature. If you use !seen and the guy you search for is not in the channel, but online, then it will tell what channels to go search for him in 15:53:56 <Bjarni> hylje: TCL 15:54:02 <hylje> oh noes 15:54:17 <Bjarni> ? 15:55:41 <SpComb> well, that's not new, but the "there were these matches" thing is somewhat useful 15:55:53 <SpComb> !seen on 15:55:55 <DorpsGek> SpComb, I don't remember seeing on. 15:56:00 <SpComb> hmm... perhaps not 15:56:04 <orudge> !seen yer_maw 15:56:05 <DorpsGek> orudge, yer_maw? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember yer_maw. 15:56:08 <SpComb> !seen om 15:56:09 <DorpsGek> SpComb, om? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember om. 15:56:09 * orudge spys eggdrop 15:56:10 <lws1984> !seen yer_mum 15:56:11 <DorpsGek> lws1984, yer_mum? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember yer_mum. 15:56:12 <orudge> *spies 15:56:19 <SpComb> !seen oM 15:56:20 <peter1138> so is this about openttd, or about a fucking bot? 15:56:21 <DorpsGek> SpComb, I don't remember seeing oM. 15:56:23 <lws1984> !seen eggdrop 15:56:23 <DorpsGek> lws1984, I don't remember seeing eggdrop. 15:56:29 <SpComb> peter1138: playtesting a bot 15:56:39 <peter1138> playtest it elsewhere? 15:56:41 <orudge> It's eggdrop! 15:56:44 <orudge> What else does it do, then? 15:56:46 <orudge> It seems most boring. 15:56:59 <SpComb> peter1138: it doesn't seem to be on any other channel 15:57:13 * lws1984 drops an egg 15:57:21 <orudge> Anyway 15:57:22 * orudge breakfast 15:57:37 <glx> !stats 15:57:39 <DorpsGek> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/stats/openttd.html 15:57:51 <orudge> You've just copied SinnerBot now, haven't you? 15:58:07 <orudge> I daresay you're using mel for the logging, and PISG fo the stats 15:58:09 * orudge sighs :p 15:58:26 <Bjarni> I think his plan is to copy, include as much as possible, that already works 15:58:28 <orudge> Although I bet this bot doesn't do !cake or !hug 15:58:35 <Bjarni> waste of time not to do so 15:58:43 <OwenS> 5 OwenS 3301366248 today "We need the new map array first" 15:58:43 <OwenS> Aww, that quote is boring 15:58:55 <orudge> Aargh, the evil OwenS! 15:59:00 * orudge growls 15:59:01 <orudge> p 15:59:02 <orudge> :p 15:59:03 <OwenS> :P 15:59:29 <Bjarni> hehe, JohnUK89 got quoted for saying lol 15:59:33 <Bjarni> go figure 15:59:38 <lws1984> !hug 16:00:24 <OwenS> Hehe 5 OwenS 64 Wolf01 (Most referenced nicks) 16:00:28 <OwenS> I bet thats changed now :P 16:00:37 <OwenS> Or should have... 16:01:06 *** hylje is now known as the 16:01:09 *** the is now known as hylje 16:01:31 <Bjarni> JohnUK89 is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 3 times. 16:01:32 <Bjarni> For example, like this: 16:01:32 <Bjarni> * JohnUK89 slaps phone 16:01:32 <Bjarni> hehe 16:02:10 <OwenS> Hehe, ive worked out a brilliant way to filter spam ^^ 16:02:19 <OwenS> Delete mail which arrives at both of my addresses 16:02:29 <hylje> sigh, oftc nickserv doesnt remember nicks ive been registered in 16:02:33 <Bjarni> the 6th most used word in this channel is.... linux 16:02:35 <hylje> so i have to reidentify 16:02:54 <hylje> and the easiest way to do _that_ is.. 16:02:55 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 16:02:55 <Bjarni> it even beats openttd, which is the 7th most used word 16:03:03 *** hylje [hylje@194.187.214.214] has quit [Quit: lololol] 16:03:04 *** hylje [hylje@194.187.214.214] has joined #openttd 16:05:06 <OwenS> ;P 16:05:06 *** mikl [~mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:05:06 <OwenS> I should also filter email claiming to come from my address. 16:11:41 *** jailbreaker [~teodory@mail.jetfinanceintl.com] has quit [Quit: gpf] 16:12:14 <mikl> Arrrrrrrr, 0.4.8 is out - why didn't anyone tell me? 16:12:19 <mikl> ;) 16:14:53 <glx> you didn't ask :) 16:15:47 <stillunknown> 0.4.8 is pretty old from a trunk perspective 16:15:49 <mikl> in fact, my evil package-system installed it, without me noticing :D 16:16:19 <OwenS> O_O 16:16:40 <OwenS> " US professor Barry Popkin said all countries - both rich and poor - had failed to address the obesity boom. 16:16:40 <OwenS> He told the International Association of Agricultural Economists the number of overweight people had topped 1bn, compared with 800m undernourished." 16:16:40 <OwenS> (From BBC news, http://www.portalsix.net/psix/outlink/aHR0cDovL25ld3MuYmJjLmNvLnVrL2dvL3Jzcy8tLzEvaGkvaGVhbHRoLzQ3OTM0NTUuc3Rt) 16:17:10 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 16:17:14 <MeusH> hello 16:17:20 <MeusH> hey Wolf01 16:17:25 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:17:49 <Wolf01> here 16:18:05 <MeusH> how's the zooming? 16:18:14 <Wolf01> same as before 16:18:19 *** BobRoss [~bla@82.170.61.22] has quit [] 16:19:32 <Wolf01> i can't figure the asserts on viewport.c 16:20:34 <OwenS> Dell recalls 4m laptop batteries -> http://www.portalsix.net/psix/outlink/aHR0cDovL25ld3MuYmJjLmNvLnVrL2dvL3Jzcy8tLzEvaGkvYnVzaW5lc3MvNDc5MzE0My5zdG0= Not AGAIN! 16:21:02 <MeusH> hmm 16:21:03 <MeusH> brb 16:21:06 <MeusH> I'll be back 16:21:07 <MeusH> really 16:21:19 <Bjarni> you didn't see that one? 16:21:20 <Bjarni> I knew it all day 16:21:33 <OwenS> Im just checking the news now 16:25:09 *** tron_ [~tron@p54A3FE1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:29:18 <Darkvater> michi_cc: ping 16:32:26 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 16:32:32 <lws1984> lolman! 16:32:42 <lolman> lws1984! 16:33:13 <Bjarni> Bjarni! 16:33:22 <lolman> Bjarni! 16:33:29 <lws1984> Bjarni! 16:33:33 <lolman> Bjarni! Bjarni! Bjarni! 16:33:35 <lolman> .me chants 16:33:37 <lolman> grrr 16:33:38 <lolman> lol 16:33:44 <Bjarni> I won 16:33:45 <lws1984> Bjar-ni! Bjar-ni! 16:33:46 *** UE|sleepingtiem [MiniUrban@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: if at first you dont succeed, you fail.] 16:33:55 <Bjarni> I got the most references :D 16:33:59 * Bjarni slaps lws1984 16:34:17 <Bjarni> now you didn't refer to me in the stats 16:34:17 * lolman slaps Bjarni 16:35:24 <Bjarni> MeusH: do you need a job? 16:36:18 <lolman> I could be moving in 13 days :P 16:36:46 <Darkvater> < away yet again, only one pc, too much users 16:36:48 <Bjarni> I said MeusH, not lol 16:36:59 <Bjarni> s/much/many 16:37:24 <Darkvater> <away 16:37:44 <Darkvater> damn too many windows open :S 16:37:54 <Darkvater> stop messaging me! 16:37:55 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:38:30 <lolman> Bjarni: I know :) 16:41:21 <lolman> Just thought you may want to know the fact I may be moving :P 16:41:56 <Bjarni> to Denmark? 16:41:59 <lolman> Nah 16:42:04 <lolman> Leeds 16:42:09 <Bjarni> didn't think so 16:43:17 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:43:30 * lolman slaps Ubuntu's forum 16:43:33 <lolman> too slow 16:44:09 <Bjarni> !seen Ubuntu 16:44:09 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, I don't remember seeing Ubuntu. 16:44:39 <Bjarni> lolman: he was not even here, so how can you message him right after he left? 16:44:40 * lolman slaps Bjarni for being so pedantic 16:44:43 <MeusH> Bjarni: maybye 16:44:52 *** Cybertinus [~cybertinu@213.84.255.40] has joined #openttd 16:44:55 <Cybertinus> hello 16:44:55 <lws1984> pedanticisim! 16:45:09 * MeusH kills lolman 16:45:18 *** lolman is now known as deadlolman 16:45:21 * MeusH makes lollipops of lolman 16:45:34 * MeusH gives Bjarni a lolman lollipops 16:45:55 <lws1984> ooh! can I have one? 16:45:59 <Bjarni> MeusH: you want a job? 16:46:15 * MeusH opens a lollipop shop 16:46:23 * MeusH gives lws1984 two lollipops 16:46:27 <Bjarni> they are hiring Polish people as paperboys in Copenhagen 16:46:31 <MeusH> Bjarni: I already have a shop 16:46:37 <MeusH> a lollipop shop 16:46:41 <MeusH> but I can have two jobs 16:46:47 <MeusH> what's up dude? 16:46:52 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@d197184.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:47:18 <Bjarni> <MeusH> what's up dude? <-- <Bjarni> they are hiring Polish people as paperboys in Copenhagen 16:47:32 <lws1984> thanks MeusH 16:47:32 <MeusH> so that's the offer? 16:47:45 <Bjarni> well 16:47:48 <MeusH> man, lollipops are equal to $$$ 16:47:54 <MeusH> I'm not a paperboy 16:48:00 <MeusH> I'm a lollidude 16:48:02 <Bjarni> it's possible to come to a nice country and earn money at the same time 16:48:52 * deadlolman waits for someone to respawn him 16:49:14 <Bjarni> you are a guy lolita? 16:49:19 * MeusH gathers his lollypowers 16:49:37 * MeusH uses his resurrect_a_lollipop power on deadlolman 16:49:44 <deadlolman> Bjarni: I wouldn't say lolita 16:49:47 <MeusH> here you are, new and shiny 16:49:47 *** deadlolman is now known as lolman 16:50:24 * Bjarni casts slay living on lolman 16:50:40 * MeusH casts frenzy on Bjarni 16:50:42 * Bjarni watches lolman die in agony 16:51:00 <Bjarni> die you bastard. DIE 16:51:06 <MeusH> Bjarni is in state of violent mental agitation 16:51:21 <Bjarni> why can't you just die? 16:51:37 * Bjarni kicks lolman's dying body 16:52:21 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E95.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:52:25 * OwenS shoives knife into Bjarni's throat 16:52:30 * Bjarni casts fireball on lolman 16:52:31 <Bjarni> and then he died 16:52:35 <Bjarni> finally :D 16:52:39 <|Jeroen|> pfft yet another network to connect to 16:52:43 * Bjarni casts raise dead on lolman 16:52:58 <OwenS> Erm, I just sliced your throat O.o 16:53:18 <Bjarni> see, it was ok to resurrect him. He just needed to lose a constitution point ;) 16:53:23 <Bjarni> death penalty 16:53:39 * Bjarni takes his sword and beheads OwenS 16:53:46 *** OwenS is now known as DeadOwenS 16:53:47 *** wolfy [~wolf@d197184.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:53 <Bjarni> o_O 16:53:56 <lws1984> He's Dead, John! 16:54:00 <lws1984> :p 16:54:08 * DeadOwenS 's goast waits patiently for someone to use a Phoenix Down on him... 16:54:09 <lolman> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! 16:54:10 <Bjarni> I think I was too powerful with the sword 16:54:14 <DeadOwenS> A defribulator works also :) 16:54:21 <lws1984> not in beheading! 16:54:22 <DeadOwenS> Wait.. No 16:54:30 <Bjarni> I killed both OwenS and wolfy in one blow 16:55:14 <Bjarni> well 16:55:19 <DeadOwenS> Yeah, you kinda hit him with the sword 16:55:24 <DeadOwenS> Phoenix down me already someone! 16:55:34 <DeadOwenS> Else I will haunt you all :P 16:55:39 *** lws1984 is now known as lws|Lunch 16:55:49 * DeadOwenS haunts you all 16:55:51 <Bjarni> now DeadOwenS learned the hard way that I don't like people assaulting me 16:55:55 * DeadOwenS haunts you all 16:56:05 <Bjarni> good 16:56:13 <Bjarni> then haunt lolman 16:56:21 * DeadOwenS haunts Bjarni 16:56:22 *** lws|Lunch is now known as lws1984 16:56:29 <Bjarni> quick lunch 16:56:43 *** lws1984 is now known as lws|Lunch 16:56:43 * DeadOwenS pushes Bjarni's monitor(s) on the floor 16:56:50 <MiHaMiX> hmm 16:56:54 <Bjarni> maybe we made him lose his appetite when talking about killing people with melee weapons 16:57:09 *** ced-2 [~ced@dyn-83-157-63-178.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #openttd 16:57:20 *** lws|Lunch is now known as lws1984 16:57:44 <glx> DeadOwenS: you can't touch things, you're a ghost 16:57:51 <DeadOwenS> Ghosts can haunt :P 16:58:13 <Bjarni> DeadOwenS: LOL, that reminds me of Steward or whatever his name was. He decided to type "/me hugs Bjarni" and then the next line was "shit, I just fell off the chair", "it fucking hurts" 16:58:29 <MeusH> lolman, seems to be dead, doesn't he? 16:58:38 <Bjarni> so, it's dangerous to go against me on IRC 16:58:39 * DeadOwenS steals and uses Bjarni's Phoenix Down on himself :P 16:58:42 *** DeadOwenS is now known as OwenS 16:58:45 <OwenS> Much better... 16:59:24 * Bjarni casts fireball on OwenS 16:59:33 * Bjarni raises OwenS as a lich 16:59:34 * OwenS pours a bucket of water on himself 17:00:01 * orudge grumbles at this highlight 17:00:04 * Bjarni decides that this have gone far enough 17:00:18 <OwenS> It hasn't for me! 17:00:18 <Bjarni> orudge: you got highlighted? 17:00:32 * OwenS pulls out SC20k with Shotgun Attachment and pops off Bjarni's head 17:00:47 * Bjarni got protection from normal missiles 17:00:49 <orudge> Bjarni: Yes 17:00:51 <orudge> "Owen" highlights me 17:00:53 <orudge> It's annoying 17:00:56 <Bjarni> haha 17:00:59 <MeusH> bye 17:01:16 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:01:23 <Bjarni> then there is only one thing to do 17:01:51 <Bjarni> OvenS: how dare you to do such a crude attempt on my life.... you will fail 17:02:21 * OwenS peppers some more sniper bullets at Bjarni 17:02:32 <Bjarni> you can't oppose the great god of #openttd 17:02:34 * lolman fires ICBM at Bjarni 17:02:36 * lws1984 draws a phaser rifle 17:02:48 * OwenS aims SC-20K 17:02:49 * lws1984 finishes and chucks the pencil at lolman 17:03:06 * OwenS puts on radiation suite 17:03:07 <Bjarni> I'm immortal and can't be harmed by normal weapons 17:03:10 * lolman dodges 17:03:29 * lws1984 attaches a disruptor to the phaser 17:03:34 <Bjarni> bah 17:03:40 * Bjarni goes away 17:03:46 * lolman whistles, and waits for alien invasion force to arrive 17:03:46 * OwenS casts Mortality :P 17:04:03 * OwenS fires another bullet at now mortal Bjarni's head :P 17:04:19 <Bjarni> children of #openttd: I don't want you to fight each other 17:04:24 <Bjarni> Fight MS instead 17:04:33 <lolman> Good idea 17:04:36 <lws1984> yay! 17:04:43 * lws1984 phasers Redmond 17:04:43 * lolman reroutes ICBM to Redmond 17:05:00 * lws1984 grabs several weapons and drives in after the ICBM strikes 17:05:43 * lolman blows the door off Bill's bunker 17:05:51 * OwenS does a Sam Fisher-esque entry into Redmond and sneaks into Balmer's room 17:05:59 * OwenS aims pistol 17:06:01 * OwenS fires 17:06:36 * lolman drives in with tank, to clean up what still remails 17:06:39 <lolman> remains* 17:07:11 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 17:07:53 <lolman> Now, where's that stillunknown person...he needs dealing with... 17:08:18 *** Cannon [~Cannon@pcd314091.netvigator.com] has joined #openttd 17:08:53 <stillunknown> very funny lolman 17:09:05 <lws1984> ooh, a Cannon! 17:09:11 <lws1984> that could be quite useful 17:09:30 * lws1984 does a Kramer-esque entry and kidnaps the Vista source code 17:10:00 <lolman> lws1984: fancy doing an m68k build? :P 17:10:11 <lolman> Of Vista, that is 17:10:15 <lws1984> *snicker* 17:10:15 <lolman> :-D 17:10:30 <lws1984> I wouldn't even want to compile this for PowerPC! 17:11:03 * lws1984 burns the flashdrive(s) he had Vista on 17:11:18 <lolman> LOL 17:12:03 <lolman> Hmm, how do you disable hardware in Debian based distros? 17:12:26 <stillunknown> permanently? 17:12:39 <lolman> Yeah 17:12:47 <lolman> I can't remove it though 17:19:03 <stillunknown> depending on the age of the kernel, you have to convince udev or coldplug not to load the driver for the piece of hardwarw 17:19:08 <stillunknown> *hardware 17:19:25 <stillunknown> how, that's something i don't know :-) 17:20:54 <lolman> Damn lol 17:21:15 <stillunknown> /etc/hotplug/blacklist might be what you need 17:21:44 <stillunknown> irc didn't send because it had a trailing / 17:22:03 <lolman> Doesn't exist lol 17:22:11 <lolman> udev does :) 17:22:40 <stillunknown> does the folder exist? 17:22:53 <lolman> No, but I found udev 17:23:00 *** webfreakz [~Ronald@195.73.147.226] has joined #openttd 17:23:34 <stillunknown> you could try making the folder 17:23:38 <stillunknown> and file 17:23:52 <stillunknown> you just need to put the undesired module in there 17:23:53 <lolman> I'll try it with udev first 17:25:06 <stillunknown> my file contains stuff, which i didn't, so i assume it works with udev 17:25:18 <stillunknown> but i'm not sure 17:25:25 <stillunknown> and it can be distro dependent 17:26:30 <lolman> Well I'll have a look 17:26:52 <stillunknown> arch linux does it by specifying: MODULES="!module" 17:26:57 <stillunknown> in /etc/rc.conf 17:27:05 <stillunknown> so it's definately distro dependent 17:27:26 *** Cannon [~Cannon@pcd314091.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:27:39 <stillunknown> MODULES=(!module) i mean 17:31:52 <stillunknown> maybe /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is the file you need 17:33:44 <webfreakz> what does he need? 17:33:57 *** RoMmM [~tom@host217-44-220-161.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:34:11 <RoMmM> hi 17:34:12 <lolman> stillunkown: it was what I needed, thanks :) 17:35:04 <lolman> stillunknown* 17:35:33 <lolman> Ok I'll need to reboot for that to take effect, bbs :) 17:35:42 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:38:42 *** Apach [~Miranda@net135-138.4web.pl] has joined #openttd 17:39:20 <Apach> hello all 17:39:25 <webfreakz> hi 17:39:31 <Apach> i want to ask about server commands 17:39:42 <Apach> if there is some welcome msg ? 17:40:01 <Apach> can i set something like this ? 17:42:28 <webfreakz> AFAIK you can't? 17:43:05 <Apach> what? 17:43:05 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 17:43:26 <lolman> Module disabled :) 17:43:30 <OwenS> You cank't set a welcome message with the server 17:43:51 <Apach> okey and something like add ? 17:44:14 <OwenS> ? 17:44:50 <Apach> some command to advertise site of the serwer 17:44:54 <Apach> server 17:45:06 <webfreakz> nope 17:45:09 <webfreakz> you can't advertise 17:45:29 <Apach> okey thanks guys :) 17:48:46 *** Apach [~Miranda@net135-138.4web.pl] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 17:58:17 *** UserErr0r [MiniUrban@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:56 *** sayno [~sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #openttd 18:10:12 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 18:23:06 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 18:26:50 *** ced-2 [~ced@dyn-83-157-63-178.ppp.tiscali.fr] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:28:46 <lolman> Ello :) 18:29:08 <lws1984> ellllllllooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! 18:29:11 <webfreakz> hi 18:29:28 <lolman> lws1984: elloooooooooo! lol 18:29:32 <lolman> webfreakz: ello 18:33:58 *** abhdua [~user@171.Red-83-60-103.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:30 <RoMmM> byebye 18:36:38 *** RoMmM [~tom@host217-44-220-161.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 18:38:16 <Darkvater> bah, my laptop has been kidnapped :O 18:39:14 <Gorre`> i told you, nuke'em, i told you that many times ... 18:39:41 <Darkvater> it's my sister 18:40:29 <Gorre`> ok, nevermind 18:40:42 <Darkvater> hehe 18:40:45 <lolman> Nuke 'em anyway! :P 18:41:20 <lolman> Either that or password the laptop :P 18:41:37 <Darkvater> he, well she has her own login 18:41:38 <Darkvater> :) 18:42:03 <webfreakz> what does she say about linux? 18:42:09 <webfreakz> KDE/GNOME? 18:42:44 <Bjarni> <Darkvater> it's my sister <-- universal excuse 18:42:51 <webfreakz> lol 18:42:52 <Darkvater> she says: does it have Opera? Good, then I don't care 18:43:03 * Darkvater hugs his sister 18:43:07 <webfreakz> rofl 18:43:30 <Bjarni> I will presume that Darkvater will say that it's his sister if he ever make statements he don't mean to 18:43:37 <Bjarni> like "I like guys" 18:43:48 <Darkvater> no 18:43:55 <Darkvater> then I would say: "bjarni forced me" 18:44:11 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:44:17 <Bjarni> you mean your sister doesn't like guys? 18:44:25 <hylje> "oops, a cat ran over my keyboard" 18:44:40 <lws1984> hey, that's my line! 18:44:41 <Bjarni> how mean were you to her when she developed her sense of genders? 18:45:24 <Darkvater> very 18:45:27 <Darkvater> *evil grin* 18:45:33 <Darkvater> so 18:45:34 <Darkvater> !seen cia 18:45:35 <DorpsGek> Darkvater, I don't remember seeing cia. 18:45:42 <Darkvater> fuck 18:45:44 <Bjarni> !seen police 18:45:45 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, I don't remember seeing police. 18:45:48 <Bjarni> good 18:45:53 <Bjarni> Darkvater: give me all your money 18:46:02 * Darkvater gives bjarni all his money 18:46:22 <Darkvater> HA, you weren't counting on that now were you? 18:46:23 <Bjarni> hey, it worked :D 18:47:08 <Bjarni> too bad it ended up as only EUR0.05 18:47:18 <Darkvater> why do you think I gave so freely ;) 18:47:21 <webfreakz> isn't that enough to pay your rent? ;) 18:47:38 <Bjarni> it would be in Hungary, but not here 18:48:18 <Born_Acorn> I'm Hungry. 18:48:45 <Bjarni> then you came to the wrong place 18:48:56 <Bjarni> try #food or #recipes 18:49:28 <Born_Acorn> Both are empty. Like my tum. 18:50:00 <Bjarni> then go somewhere else 18:50:05 <Bjarni> like your kitchen 18:50:05 <webfreakz> http://www.dominos.com/Public-EN/ 18:50:12 <webfreakz> get a pizza! 18:50:19 <Bjarni> or your neighbour's kitchen 18:50:21 <Born_Acorn> (19:50:37) * You were kicked from #food by Born_Acorn (You smell) 18:50:23 <Born_Acorn> :( 18:50:30 *** bruce89 [~bruce@81-178-99-246.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 18:50:45 *** Born_Acorn was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [You smell] 18:50:50 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@AC8F1603.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 18:50:53 <Born_Acorn> How uncouth 18:50:53 <webfreakz> rofl 18:51:19 * Born_Acorn tells the BBC. 18:51:26 <Bjarni> well 18:51:40 <Darkvater> keke 18:52:09 <Bjarni> if they can make a TV show about "England's worst toilet", then they can surely make one of "England's smelliest person on the internet" 18:52:37 <Born_Acorn> It wouldn't be me. 18:52:47 <Bjarni> are you sure? 18:52:47 <Born_Acorn> I smell with my nose! 18:52:47 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 18:52:55 <Born_Acorn> I'm not in England, so no. 18:52:57 <Born_Acorn> :p 18:52:59 <lolman> YAY! :-D :P 18:53:07 <Bjarni> you just got kicked from two channels in less than a minute for smelling 18:53:27 <webfreakz> doesn't that start you thinking? 18:53:36 <Born_Acorn> I smell a lot of things. Right now I smell food cooking. 18:53:38 <lws1984> aye, take a shower for god's sake! 18:53:41 <Bjarni> ok, then "Britain's smelliest person on the internet" 18:53:44 * lolman finally got the nvidia drivers working, and I was right in my assumption that it was the onboard graphics that were screwing it all up 18:54:01 <Born_Acorn> Disable the onboard graphics first thing! 18:54:18 <lolman> Born_Acorn: it is in BIOS 18:54:36 <Born_Acorn> :o 18:54:56 <lolman> It was screwing it up from beyond the grave :o 18:55:04 <Bjarni> anybody got a hint to why opengl displays wrong colours with a nVidia video card? (win 2k) 18:55:24 <OwenS> O.o why are they wrong? 18:55:34 <Bjarni> that's what I would like to know 18:55:49 <glx> wrong drivers I guess 18:56:00 <Bjarni> it's like it uses a wrong colour bitmap in all ogl apps/games 18:56:06 <lolman> Bjarni: a crap OpenGL implementation in your drivers 18:56:22 <Bjarni> I tried every single driver. Some completely fails to show anything 18:56:40 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@ppp83-237-234-36.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:56:47 <lolman> Would it happen to be an Intel integrated chipset? 18:56:57 <Bjarni> can't remember 18:57:06 <Bjarni> and can't check it (the computer is not here) 18:57:13 <lolman> Aah right 19:00:22 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-142-122.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:24 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 19:00:59 <Bjarni> but why did you ask if it is an Intel chipset? 19:01:10 <Bjarni> are they nasty when it comes to graphics or something? 19:02:36 <lolman> Bjarni: I'm not convinced that they have very good drivers 19:03:25 <Bjarni> ok 19:12:46 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:13:38 *** webfreakz [~Ronald@195.73.147.226] has quit [Quit: bye] 19:14:49 <stillunknown> has rick67 been around lately? 19:15:44 <Born_Acorn> He went to a better place. 19:16:04 <Born_Acorn> (He isn't here, so he must be) 19:23:42 <Bjarni> !seen richk67 19:23:44 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, RichK67 (~RichK67@194.164.100.143) was last seen quitting #openttd 2 days 16 hours 57 minutes ago (13.08. 02:26) stating "Quit: RichK67" after spending some time there. 19:24:08 <Bjarni> we got a bot. Use it 19:25:00 <Belugas> peter1138 would say "we have a bot" ;) 19:25:21 <Wolf01> belugas, don't be so sacro ;) 19:25:28 <Belugas> heheh 19:25:36 <stillunknown> i think the bot should be renamed to VillageIdiot for consistency 19:25:38 <hylje> whats wrong in being sacro? :( 19:28:17 <Bjarni> nothing 19:28:31 <Bjarni> if you are mentally unstable and a professional slacker 19:30:41 *** bruce89 [~bruce@81-178-99-246.dsl.pipex.com] has left #openttd [] 19:31:05 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176108094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:33:54 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176124047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:39 *** dupier [id11@client-87-247-84-59.inturbo.lt] has quit [] 19:46:19 *** Cybertinus [~cybertinu@213.84.255.40] has quit [Quit: bye] 19:55:06 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:57:27 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:58:32 *** netgert [Gert@80-235-89-132-dsl.prn.estpak.ee] has quit [] 19:59:57 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:04:21 *** Csendes_Mark [~jme@adsl2-4-109.pool.emitel.hu] has joined #openttd 20:04:27 <Csendes_Mark> hi all 20:05:42 <Csendes_Mark> i have a problem: 20:06:11 <Csendes_Mark> I wannt make an OTTD server 20:07:28 <Csendes_Mark> One of my friend has a server with 100MBit net speed 20:08:27 <OwenS> Your problem is? 20:08:34 <Csendes_Mark> the server's opsystem is Debian 3.1 20:08:38 <OwenS> And? 20:08:55 <Csendes_Mark> I dont know how can I start the server 20:09:08 <Csendes_Mark> (sorry, but i am noob in linux) 20:09:16 <OwenS> Run it as you would run any normal app in the same directory 20:09:48 <Csendes_Mark> what have i download 20:10:04 <OwenS> Huh? 20:10:30 <Csendes_Mark> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103924&package_id=111717&release_id=438998 20:10:35 <Csendes_Mark> fron here? 20:10:41 <Csendes_Mark> from 20:10:49 <OwenS> Source 20:10:54 <hylje> sauce 20:11:03 <OwenS> (I sincerely doubt he would give you root) 20:11:29 <OwenS> ((And if he does hes being stupid - No offence to you, just you shouldn't guve anyone but yourself root ;) )) 20:12:00 <OwenS> You need the GRFs aswell remember 20:12:23 <Csendes_Mark> GRF? 20:12:37 <OwenS> You know, the files in the data folder 20:12:45 <OwenS> The ones from the original TTD 20:13:10 <Csendes_Mark> thats OK 20:14:13 *** bruce89 [~bruce@81-178-99-246.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 20:28:40 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 20:29:47 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31:14 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 20:31:27 <lolman> Hmm me keyboard layout's borked 20:31:42 *** BJH2__ [~chatzilla@e176110178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:31:59 *** Wombles [~wombles@gethsemane.odgers.id.au] has joined #openttd 20:32:43 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:44 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 20:33:51 <MeusH> hi 20:33:52 <MeusH> hey Wolf01 20:38:52 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176108094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:40:00 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 20:44:03 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N800P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 20:44:32 <lolman> argh 20:44:39 <lolman> freetype died on me :'( 20:46:06 <Bjarni> <lolman> Hmm me keyboard layout's borked <-- trying to get a lol key? 20:46:07 <lolman> Now I gotta uninstall 200-odd packages to reinstall the bugger :-\ 20:46:29 <lolman> Bjarni: nah it was hiding a much bigger problem, as shown above 20:46:57 <lolman> Least I still have a working copy of kde :-\ 20:47:07 <Bjarni> I haven't paid much attention to the channel tonight 20:47:26 <Bjarni> <lolman> Least I still have a working copy of kde :-\ <-- for as long as it lasts :p 20:47:42 <lolman> Bjarni: lol yeah 20:47:57 <Bjarni> I knew you would reply with a lol 20:48:08 <lolman> Well I am lolman :P 20:48:54 *** Guest56 [Gono@N709P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:49:18 <lolman> ARGH!!! 20:49:28 <hylje> lol key heh 20:49:39 <hylje> unicode could use one such key 20:49:51 <lolman> How I'm I'm in GNOME still I dunno lol 20:49:55 <lolman> -I'm 20:50:26 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]] 20:50:46 * lolman reminds himself NOT to logout 20:51:14 <Bjarni> hehe 20:51:23 <hylje> how do i shot web 20:51:25 * SpComb reminds everyone to use screen 20:51:27 * Bjarni plans on cutting lolman's power supply 20:51:44 <MeusH> lolman, do you know I can change colors on my screen? 20:51:45 * lolman will hit Bjarni hard if he does 20:51:50 <MeusH> Alt+F4 20:52:02 <lolman> MeusH: I'm not stupid ;-) 20:52:03 <MeusH> and I can write funny stuff after Ctrl+Alt+Del 20:52:06 <Bjarni> hylje: I made up the lol key thing and I also got the idea of the name lolman 20:52:09 <MeusH> baotnaetonbatoenb. see? 20:52:20 <Bjarni> it fits a guy, who says lol every 3rd line 20:52:24 <hylje> hehehh 20:52:36 <Bjarni> even the stats quote him for a line where he says lol 20:52:44 <lolman> Heh 20:52:49 <lolman> !stats 20:52:49 <DorpsGek> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/stats/openttd.html 20:53:00 <hylje> someone has already made(, ok, photoshopped) a keyboard which has all the words you could need in the internets 20:53:22 <lolman> The stats have changed Bjarni :P 20:53:24 <Bjarni> oh, it updated 20:53:48 <Bjarni> and now I got quoted for saying that openttd is the 7th most used word in this channel 20:53:59 <lolman> I'm the second most talkative person in here :) 20:54:00 <Bjarni> the 6th word is linux 20:54:02 <hylje> lolol 20:54:07 <hylje> linux linux linux linux 20:54:17 <Bjarni> no 20:54:27 <Bjarni> linux dropped to the 8th place 20:54:33 <OwenS> 419ers (Or whatever are funny 20:54:41 <OwenS> "Good day, 20:54:41 <OwenS> I am a Dog Breeder, My husband and I live in the United Kingdom. Recently my 20:54:41 <OwenS> Dog gave Birth and we have four wonderful puppies. The (shih tzu) Puppy is 20:54:41 <OwenS> Licensed, and has Health Certificate." 20:54:42 <OwenS> Hmm? 20:54:48 <OwenS> That doesn't correlate with this: 20:54:56 <OwenS> "From: Gloria Jones <gloria_jones@ig.com.br>" 20:55:04 <Bjarni> we used the word "openttd" more than the word "which" 20:55:07 <bruce89> there there there 20:55:31 <MeusH> Bjarni is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 4 times. 20:55:31 <MeusH> For example, like this: 20:55:31 <MeusH> * Bjarni slaps lws1984 20:55:31 <MeusH> lolman can't control his/her aggressions, either. He/She picked on others 3 times. 20:55:33 <MeusH> lol 20:55:35 <Bjarni> OwenS: I get stuff like that all the time 20:55:38 * MeusH loves http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/stats/openttd.html 20:55:49 <OwenS> Yeah, I just like lauging at the stupidity 20:56:14 <OwenS> XD I love that Bjarni's quote is a quote about the page... 20:56:22 <bruce89> how do these stats get made, is it automatic 20:56:39 <Bjarni> I liked it when it said that MiHaM iX (no highlight) was the happiest person in the channel and also the saddest 20:56:41 <lolman> Just noticed...I'm on the most lines stats twice xD 20:56:44 <Bjarni> is that a one man channel? 20:57:37 <Bjarni> bruce89: DorpsGek is a bot collecting intelligence on you 20:57:42 <Bjarni> and everybody else in here 20:58:12 <OwenS> Haha "orudge is also a sad person, crying 5.0% of the time." 20:58:14 <bruce89> it's not 1984 is it> 20:58:18 <OwenS> Probably about my highlight :P 20:58:24 <Bjarni> <OwenS> XD I love that Bjarni's quote is a quote about the page... <-- yeah. Also how # 2 and 3 URLs are to qdb.us 20:58:35 <OwenS> Hehe 20:59:13 <Bjarni> <OwenS> Probably about my highlight :P <-- yeah, you stole a special name 20:59:22 <OwenS> OpenTTD is greater than Linux now :( 20:59:36 <Bjarni> ChanServ donated 17 ops in the channel... 20:59:37 <OwenS> Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Get back above it :P 20:59:38 <Bjarni> nice guy 20:59:41 <OwenS> Haha 21:00:02 <Bjarni> JohnUK89 always lets us know what he/she's doing: 40 actions! 21:00:02 <Bjarni> For example, like this: 21:00:05 <Bjarni> * JohnUK89 laughs out loud 21:00:06 <Bjarni> go figure 21:00:12 <lolman> Typical :P 21:00:14 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-129.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 21:00:28 <lolman> It catches an expanded lol 21:00:43 <lolman> Bjarni talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 5 times! 21:00:56 <Bjarni> that makes 25 lines 21:01:07 <lolman> Yeah :) 21:01:08 <MeusH> Bjarni is a special kind of jedi 21:01:17 <bruce89> ah, but that is linux with a ! on the end 21:01:42 <OwenS> It probably removes all structural info :P 21:01:44 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:01:49 <Bjarni> I like in the old channel where the stats said that the saddest persons were CIA bots because the commit messages contains ): 21:02:02 <bruce89> there is only 0.7% swearing here at worstr 21:02:02 <OwenS> Hehe 21:02:19 <Belugas_Gone> bye guys 21:02:23 <MeusH> what an evil 21:02:24 <Bjarni> bye Belugas_Gone 21:02:26 <MeusH> bye Belugas_Gone 21:03:10 <bruce89> bye 21:03:14 <Bjarni> hylje has quite a potty mouth. 0.7% words were foul language. 21:03:15 <Bjarni> hmm 21:03:40 * MeusH slaps hylje 21:03:43 <Bjarni> hylje: are you here? 21:03:45 * MeusH slaps himself 21:03:53 * MeusH got slapped by MeusH 21:04:09 <MeusH> enough slapping! 21:04:12 <MeusH> no! not yet! 21:04:21 <MeusH> slap slap slap 21:04:25 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B63EBB.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:04:29 <Bjarni> * MeusH slaps himself <-- that counts towards aggressive 21:04:30 * lolman slaps MeusH 21:04:38 * lolman slaps some other people too 21:04:57 * MeusH slaps a gay 21:05:03 <MeusH> oh no I touched him 21:05:08 * MeusH faints 21:05:12 <Bjarni> you touched yourself? 21:05:15 <Wolf01> question: is the viewport zoom limited in any way? 21:05:16 <MeusH> NO 21:05:20 * lolman kicks MeusH for being so stupid :-D 21:05:33 <MeusH> I don't like narrow lemons 21:05:39 <glx> Wolf01: yes, 3 levels 21:05:41 <Bjarni> how can you manage not to touch yourself? 21:05:41 <lolman> Hmm I'm staring at a reinstall here... 21:05:50 <Wolf01> glx i added 2 more 21:06:17 <Bjarni> besides I didn't give any time parameters in that question except it was past tense, so it goes from when the question was asked and all the way back to when you were born 21:06:23 <Bjarni> and you didn't touch yourself? 21:06:32 <Bjarni> I don't believe that 21:06:38 <MeusH> I'm not permitted to do so 21:06:44 <Bjarni> oh 21:06:45 <MeusH> I'm only selling lollipops 21:06:56 <MeusH> I have a shop :) 21:07:05 <bruce89> lolman, why 21:07:07 <lolman> noooooo 21:07:22 <Bjarni> you were one of those, who should put their hands on top of the blanket when sleeping "to avoid bad dreams" 21:07:33 <MeusH> Bjarni, you have no understanding of me 21:07:39 <lolman> bruce89: my entire gnome is borked, and the bluetooth stuff has just gone and uninstalled itself, I'm lucky to still be connected 21:07:44 <MeusH> you think I'm gay 21:07:51 <Bjarni> I didn't say that 21:07:52 <MeusH> but touching myself doesn't mean anything 21:07:54 <Bjarni> you said that 21:08:00 <MeusH> I'm like snearing my nose 21:08:09 <MeusH> * MeusH slaps a gay 21:08:10 <MeusH> <MeusH> oh no I touched him 21:08:10 <MeusH> * MeusH faints 21:08:10 <MeusH> <Bjarni> you touched yourself? 21:08:28 <MeusH> I'm aware you shouldn't have played with bells in your child hood :) 21:08:32 <Bjarni> totally unrelated :p 21:08:42 <Bjarni> err 21:08:45 <Bjarni> bells? 21:08:56 <MeusH> yes 21:09:00 <MeusH> the bells that ring 21:09:04 <Bjarni> also childhood is one word 21:09:09 <lolman> I bet I can reinstall and get back online in 15 minutes flat... 21:09:11 <glx> press the button the run ? 21:09:17 <MeusH> ringing may be disastrous for some 21:09:17 <glx> *then 21:09:23 <MeusH> sorry 21:09:52 <Bjarni> I have no idea of what you are talking about 21:09:55 <Darkvater> el toros 21:09:59 <MeusH> me either 21:10:02 <lolman> Ello Darkvater :) 21:10:08 <MeusH> hello Darkvater 21:10:09 <Darkvater> ola 21:10:10 <lolman> right 21:10:21 <MeusH> left 21:10:36 <Bjarni> MeusH: you are left handed? 21:10:56 * lolman has gone to reinstall...back in 15 minutes (and if I'm not, I'll slap meself :P) 21:10:58 <MeusH> no he isn't 21:11:23 <Darkvater> sweet Hitachi says that 1TB drives are coming out this year 21:11:37 <Bjarni> so... 21:11:46 <Bjarni> now I have to replace my HDs again? 21:12:08 <Darkvater> hehe a 4TB NAS *D 21:12:16 <MeusH> I don't think drives like these are reliable 21:12:20 <Wolf01> i want to buy an external box with 1TB HDD for this X-mas 21:12:32 <MeusH> it's cool to say to a friend "hey I have a 1TB drive" 21:12:44 <Wolf01> and a 160GB 2,5" for my laptop 21:12:46 <Bjarni> I have seen a 2 TB drive 21:12:47 <MeusH> but it isn't any better 21:13:01 <Bjarni> I think it contained 4 500 GB raided HDs though 21:13:12 <Bjarni> it was kind of big and external 21:13:33 <MeusH> Bjarni: even 8 250 GB drives would be better IMO 21:13:36 <blathijs> just make it big and stack more platters, right? :-) 21:16:17 <Wolf01> search for Lacie Ethernet Hdd 2tb 21:16:57 <Bjarni> the one I saw was a firewire 800 box 21:17:55 <bruce89> lolman, which distro 21:18:08 <Wolf01> glx, about the zoom levels, do you know something i don't? 21:18:20 <glx> Wolf01: not really 21:18:57 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:26 <Bjarni> will we ever see him again? 21:19:28 <Wolf01> i mean something like "how to set the default zoom level" 21:21:53 <Bjarni> hehe, I heard a noise outside and though "oh no, thunder again". It turned out to be a jet plane 21:23:21 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C10.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23:50 *** Csendes_Mark [~jme@adsl2-4-109.pool.emitel.hu] has quit [] 21:24:38 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C10.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:31:23 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 21:31:46 <lolman> damnit 3 minutes late...all thanks to grub barfing installing itself :-\ 21:31:49 * lolman slaps self 21:32:08 <bruce89> how was that thenb 21:32:44 <lolman> bruce89: it said it had finished installing, but when it rebooted grub didnt work lol 21:32:56 <lolman> I had to go back into rescue mode and install it again 21:33:00 <Eddi|zuHause> hey... can i change the output terminal of a running process? 21:33:51 <bruce89> 2 installs? 21:34:05 <bruce89> that was rather quick 21:34:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i had a wget running in a Konsole, then i had to kill X, and now wget is still running, but without output... 21:34:14 <lolman> bruce89: one install of the whole OS 21:34:35 <lolman> Two installs of the bootloader 21:34:40 <bruce89> oops, i see what you mean 21:34:44 <stillunknown> lolman: what were you installing? 21:35:06 <lolman> stillunknown: Ubuntu...again 21:35:15 <lolman> I buggered it up 21:35:37 <bruce89> how? 21:35:38 <stillunknown> i've not broken my linux install (enough) in a year 21:36:02 <lolman> bruce89: I tried to do too much for a newbie :P 21:36:59 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B63EBB.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:04 <stillunknown> i can still remember the 80 page manual and the 24 hour install time, but it was worth it 21:37:28 <lolman> stillunknown: aah this is a 15 minute install...if it all goes according to plan 21:37:29 <stillunknown> (~24 hours until it booted into a console) 21:38:16 <bruce89> 1994? 21:38:29 <stillunknown> 2005 21:38:39 <Maedhros> gentoo, by any chance? ;) 21:38:43 <stillunknown> yes 21:38:55 <bruce89> well, that's asking for i 21:39:16 <bruce89> if you want breaking (sort of) try Edgy 21:39:34 <stillunknown> i love gentoo and ubuntu would probably drive nuts 21:39:34 <lolman> Nah 21:39:36 <lolman> Lol 21:39:47 <bruce89> it's what i'm in just now, evolution is broken 21:39:50 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:40:04 <lolman> bruce89: I was saying nah to trying edgy ;-) 21:40:13 <Maedhros> it didn't take me long for ubuntu to drive me crazy and for me to go back to gentoo 21:40:35 <Darkvater> I concur, ubuntu was really sucky 21:40:42 <lolman> Well I'm a n00b, and Ubuntu is a good n00b distro :P 21:40:44 <Darkvater> I finally picked suse and am pretty happy with it 21:40:51 <bruce89> thats your choice, i assume your long standing linux users 21:40:53 <stillunknown> also after 2 year of windows only gentoo was just what i need to get familiar again 21:40:56 <Darkvater> no, ubuntu is a terrible noob distro 21:41:04 <bruce89> huh 21:41:24 <bruce89> not as bad as freespire et al 21:41:49 <Darkvater> imho, if you're a new user, go with suse 21:41:51 <Darkvater> like me ;) 21:42:04 <stillunknown> i used some suse and red hat several years ago, my first computer is single boot gentoo from the day it saw daylight 21:42:32 <stillunknown> i was pretty much a new user, but i wanted something "good" 21:42:43 <stillunknown> something i didn't have to reinstall every year 21:43:02 <Darkvater> waaah, I can't reproduce the TGP binary I did for truelight :P 21:43:04 <Darkvater> :O 21:43:22 <Darkvater> gaah 21:43:27 * Darkvater hits head against wall 21:43:33 <Darkvater> go to r5818, not HEAD 21:43:54 <stillunknown> i remember suse from a few years ago and it was a hell for the few things i tried to compile in it 21:43:55 <lolman> As soon as I move (about 2 weeks from now hopefully) I can get sorted out with updates etc :) 21:44:01 <bruce89> ahh, enough arguing about distros 21:44:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i got suse, and it has some strange problems that i cannot track down... 21:44:41 <Darkvater> only problem I have is that Konqueror is unstable as hell. I open 7-8 windows and it crashes 21:44:48 <Eddi|zuHause> like... some program is switching off DMA all of a sudden... 21:44:50 <Darkvater> but Opera works like a charm >D 21:44:53 <stillunknown> kde, the horror 21:45:01 <Eddi|zuHause> and YAST is acting up 21:45:02 <bruce89> or DE's !!!!!!! 21:45:12 <lolman> I have to admit I am a fan of GNOME 21:45:12 <Darkvater> gnome :s 21:45:21 <bruce89> why 21:45:22 <stillunknown> i love openbox, but that's only a wm 21:45:24 <Darkvater> I do agree yast is being really sucky lately 21:45:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i do not have problems with Konqueror 21:45:34 <stillunknown> (away) 21:46:05 <Darkvater> it also happened to me back on 9.3. Donnu what it is 21:46:07 <glx> I used suse 7.0, but rapidly switch to mandrake 21:46:08 <Darkvater> just gave it up 21:46:11 <bruce89> for the record, i use epiphany 21:46:17 <Darkvater> oh, mandrake was fun :) 21:46:48 <Darkvater> I do have to say that I am back on windows a lot. Nothing beats VS2003/VS2005 as a developing environment 21:46:53 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, and flash got no sound in konqueror, but in firefox 21:47:19 <lolman> I have a copy of Mandriva One here, but it can't pick up me SATA drive, so I'm not going to install it :P 21:47:26 <Eddi|zuHause> which is strange, because all internet forums i searched, the problem was the other way round 21:47:34 <bruce89> MonoDevelop> 21:47:52 <bruce89> i have no flash, AMD64 21:48:03 <blathijs> yes, nasty stuff that 21:48:18 <Eddi|zuHause> but i was impressed how good hardware detection was 21:48:19 *** Rohan [~rohan@212-181-138-111-no75.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:48:22 <blathijs> bruce89: You could run ia32 firefox in a chroot though :-) 21:48:34 <bruce89> i realise that 21:48:43 <bruce89> just cant be arsed to do all tha 21:50:38 <MeusH> goodnight 21:50:44 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:51:00 <bruce89> oh 21:52:41 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E95.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:28 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:54:30 *** byq [~gcichowsk@chello087206151091.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 21:54:31 <lolman> bruce89: oh? 21:54:34 <byq> hi 21:54:35 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host187-62.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has quit [Quit: e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro] 21:54:42 <lolman> byq: ello 21:55:02 <bruce89> bye, what? 21:56:09 *** MrFitz [rogue@d53-239-218.nap.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:40 <Naksu> http://lug.oregonstate.edu/gallery/firefox-crop-circle/mg_5560 haha 21:59:41 <Darkvater> < sleep 21:59:44 <Darkvater> good night all 22:00:46 <lolman> Night Darkvater 22:02:54 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:10:01 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:10:54 <OwenS> Hes sitting here on Lilonet... 22:10:59 *** byq [~gcichowsk@chello087206151091.chello.pl] has left #openttd [] 22:11:16 <OwenS> Woops, wrong channel :P 22:11:51 *** Rohan [~rohan@212-181-138-111-no75.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Rohan] 22:15:08 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 22:15:48 <lolman> brb 22:15:50 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:18:12 <bruce89> bye 22:18:13 *** bruce89 [~bruce@81-178-99-246.dsl.pipex.com] has left #openttd [] 22:21:17 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 22:21:20 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: http://iThought.dk/ ] 22:23:19 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: -] 22:30:02 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79a2e.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31:58 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 22:38:17 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 22:43:49 *** Gorre` [dik@ip-89-102-198-129.karneval.cz] has quit [Quit: Glory be to Thee, O Gorre! <k!15b8>] 22:54:05 *** BJH2__ [~chatzilla@e176110178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:54:22 <Mucht> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/blog/2006/08/15/a-small-bugreport/ <- small bug in the budget 22:56:39 <Patrick`> woah 22:56:44 <Patrick`> I should have noticed that 22:56:47 <Patrick`> I use clone constantly 22:58:19 *** exe [~dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 23:04:25 *** PAStheLoD [~pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 23:08:18 *** WorkLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 23:08:43 *** StarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:13 *** krzysiek [~krzysiek@xdsl-3076.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl] has joined #openttd 23:14:28 *** krzysiek [~krzysiek@xdsl-3076.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15:22 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:20:45 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 23:22:26 <lolman> blathjis: wb 23:23:40 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DF76.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:31:58 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 23:38:43 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:49 *** exe [~dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 23:41:55 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-234-36.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:43:30 *** Mucht|zZz [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 23:47:19 *** lolman is now known as JohnUK89 23:47:27 *** JohnUK89 is now known as lolman 23:47:44 <lolman> oops :P 23:48:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:48:56 *** Mucht|zZz is now known as Mucht 23:55:14 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 23:56:05 *** Mucht|zZz is now known as Mucht 23:56:22 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz