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11:08:24 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.google.de/logos/asterix09.gif 11:09:17 <dihedral> perhaps because they did not pay enough money for the logo to be displayed in fr too 11:09:17 <Forked> google.no ios 11:09:18 <dihedral> :-P 11:09:18 <Forked> -o 11:10:44 *** thingwath [~thingwath@r2ap232.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 11:10:50 <dihedral> ca is uk is not :-P 11:11:16 <dihedral> gr is, it and tt are not ... 11:11:21 <dihedral> well..... call them and ask ^^ 11:14:43 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8717e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:16:07 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@vps.jontysewell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:16:13 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@vps.jontysewell.net] has joined #openttd 11:25:11 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17900 /trunk/src/ (gfx.cpp table/palettes.h): 11:25:11 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Fix (r2497): ExtraPaletteValues' tables were all a factor 3 too big 11:25:11 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Codechange: replace some magic numbers related to palette animation with constants 11:34:57 *** thepalm [~chatzilla@CPE-121-210-80-70.slzx1.cht.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]] 11:44:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:48:42 *** FR^2 [frr@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 11:50:19 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:57:33 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 12:05:50 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-75fae253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 12:05:51 *** xi [~xi@78.110.223.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:08:54 *** kannerke [~pvandenb@83.101.79.29] has joined #openttd 12:10:14 *** xi [~xi@78.110.223.65] has joined #openttd 12:30:24 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@190.50.45.77] has joined #openttd 12:34:15 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.228.14] has joined #openttd 12:42:58 *** xi [~xi@78.110.223.65] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45:05 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejb29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 12:45:45 *** xi [~xi@78.110.223.65] has joined #openttd 12:45:56 *** xi [~xi@78.110.223.65] has left #openttd [] 12:49:13 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d1b0:45d:7c11:3421] has joined #openttd 12:49:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:56:18 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:06:51 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:33 *** ecke [~ecke@195.113.129.232] has joined #openttd 13:20:15 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 13:36:02 <Belugas> hello 13:41:44 <Zuu> Hi Belugas 13:44:41 <marc-andre> hiho 13:46:56 <Rubidium> morning Belugas, hope your coffee is hot enough :) 13:47:59 <Belugas> not had time to swallow even just a drop :S 13:59:37 *** ecke [~ecke@195.113.129.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:04:02 *** ecke [~ecke@pc149-229.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 14:21:01 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@169.75.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:24:34 *** ecke_ [~ecke@pc149-229.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 14:24:51 *** ecke [~ecke@pc149-229.upce.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26:10 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejb29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 14:26:58 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77704.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:28:00 *** mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:30:41 *** _ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has joined #openttd 14:31:01 *** N35 [~user@0x55535623.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:31:08 *** TheMask96- [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:31:35 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> weber.oftc.net quits: N35_, TheMask96, Eddi|zuHause, ccfreak2k, routinedecilit 14:35:00 *** Arvid_ [~m4r3z@16.81-166-200.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35:31 *** Arvid_ [~m4r3z@16.81-166-200.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 14:40:06 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 14:45:54 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:51:37 *** Wursthaut [~wursthaut@p578E3834.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:52:21 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 14:52:54 *** ecke_ [~ecke@pc149-229.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke_] 14:55:08 *** mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B444.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:59:55 *** _ccfreak2k is now known as ccfreak2k 15:05:40 *** MyCatVerbs [~mycatverb@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: It is can be meeting tiem nao? Yuss.] 15:06:56 *** Xappu [elviz@89-235-237-97.saturn.infonet.ee] has joined #openttd 15:07:00 <Xappu> Hello 15:07:03 <Xappu> i got a question 15:07:15 <Xappu> how do i change aircaft speed in dedicated server? 15:07:23 <Xappu> its at 1/4 atm and its too slow :S 15:09:33 <Rubidium> good question :) 15:09:53 <Rubidium> it's quite simple, just need to know what the variable's called 15:10:35 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:11:09 <Rubidium> in the terminal that runs the dedicated server type 'set plane_speed' 15:11:24 <Rubidium> should show what the current value and the valid range of values is 15:13:07 <Xappu> thanks 15:13:33 <Xappu> where can i find all variables? 15:14:30 <Xappu> ah nvm :d 15:15:10 <Rubidium> list_settings 15:18:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.173.61] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:20:34 <Zuu> Oh, nice a reverse flow of fizzy drinks :-) 15:20:50 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:51 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db00b6e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:34:18 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has joined #openttd 15:35:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B444.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:29 *** mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:45:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.173.61] has joined #openttd 15:45:42 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51:06 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has joined #openttd 15:54:55 *** Terkhen [kvirc@150.214.220.29] has quit [Quit: ...] 16:00:41 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 16:00:56 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:54 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has joined #openttd 16:09:45 *** marc-andre [~chatzilla@86.139.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:26 *** MyCatVerbs [~mycatverb@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:17:31 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:18:13 *** kannerke [~pvandenb@83.101.79.29] has left #openttd [] 16:19:21 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:21:25 *** bb10 [~nnscript@dhcp-077-249-031-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:40:40 *** violetblood [~fcp@79.114.104.79] has joined #openttd 16:42:51 <Belugas> why do people who want to start new projects have to advertize that in our forums? 16:42:59 <Belugas> i'm clueless 16:48:10 <Zuu> Custom content/patches for OpenTTD or just random projects? 16:49:06 <Zuu> For the first I could see a point of letting people know what others are working on if it is something bigger. But then I gues it is still a good idea that you have worked some time on it. 16:49:35 <Zuu> But I guess I should find a specific thread on the forums before commenting in more detail. :-) 16:50:54 <Noldo> it was easy to find 16:51:00 <Zuu> My guess "P1" is the thread of discussion. 16:51:27 <Zuu> Noldo: Yes, but you have to start looking before you find it. :-p 16:51:41 <Noldo> true 16:52:58 <Zuu> At least he have made some nice sketches :-) 16:54:18 <Xaroth> I must have missed that post 16:54:45 <Sacro> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/dontdisconnectus/ <- can everyone in the UK sign 16:57:06 <glx> Sacro: good luck, we tried to prevent that in France and failed 16:57:23 <Sacro> glx: it's not law in france afaik 16:57:32 <glx> it is now 16:57:44 <Sacro> oh dear :( 16:57:48 <Sacro> i thought it was against EU law 16:57:56 <Sacro> due to the lack of 'innocent until proven guilty' 16:58:01 <Sacro> or is french law not based on that/ 16:58:15 <glx> they are trying to adapt EU law for that 16:58:20 <Sacro> ARGH >< 16:59:48 *** FR^2 [frr@frquadrat.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:36 *** FR^2 [frr@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 17:05:11 <Sacro> http://imgur.com/yeQNT <- WHOO GO HULL! 17:05:35 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 17:06:11 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has joined #openttd 17:07:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.173.61] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:08:58 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db00b6e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: bis dann!] 17:10:47 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 17:16:11 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 17:21:24 *** violetblood [~fcp@79.114.104.79] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 17:21:45 *** violetblood [~fcp@79.114.60.10] has joined #openttd 17:26:01 *** violetblood [~fcp@79.114.60.10] has quit [] 17:28:01 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:30:37 *** FR^2 [frr@frquadrat.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:51 *** FR^2 [frr@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 17:35:08 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Quit: ecke] 17:44:04 *** worldemar [~woldemar@85.114.161.132] has quit [Quit: worldemar] 17:45:31 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: translators * r17901 /trunk/src/lang/ (catalan.txt greek.txt traditional_chinese.txt ukrainian.txt): 17:45:31 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:31 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: catalan - 2 changes by arnau 17:45:31 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 1 changes by josesun 17:45:31 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: greek - 135 changes by fumantsu 17:45:33 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: ukrainian - 2 changes by Madvin 17:46:21 *** worldemar [~woldemar@85.114.161.132] has joined #openttd 17:50:12 *** worldemar [~woldemar@85.114.161.132] has quit [] 17:51:13 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]] 17:53:56 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:54:12 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.226.30] has joined #openttd 18:03:40 *** Zahl [~Zahl@78.52.214.234] has joined #openttd 18:03:54 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe611.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:05:30 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@78.52.38.79] has joined #openttd 18:13:07 *** Zahl [~Zahl@78.52.214.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:13:07 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:14:32 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:15:56 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:16:02 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485D528.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:22:53 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:06 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:23:30 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B3A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:45 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@169.75.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 18:27:59 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:28:00 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 18:29:10 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 18:30:28 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:34:10 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 18:35:12 <dihedral> http://mpmap02.flightgear.org/ <- now that is nice ^^ 18:35:17 <dihedral> never knew they had that 18:36:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> i never even knew "them" 18:36:43 <Belugas> neither do i, nor do i know who are they nor what they do, or why, or to whom... and i don't care anymore... 18:37:22 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 18:37:28 <Eddi|zuHause> you definitely need a vacation :p 18:38:40 <Zuu> dihedral: You mean the online mode? 18:39:14 <Zuu> I tried that out some years ago. 18:39:50 <Zuu> But there is also servers where there is people doing control tower stuff as well as people flying the planes. Not sure if they have that on flightgear though. 18:40:39 <Belugas> you bet, Eddi|zuHause... you don't have a clue how much i need vacations! 18:40:42 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe611.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:40:45 <Belugas> fucking big time 18:42:12 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-48.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:46:46 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-48.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.173.61] has joined #openttd 18:50:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55:37 <dihedral> oh Belugas, we do, we see your mood every single day 19:00:54 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.124.206] has joined #openttd 19:01:27 <dihedral> Yes, zoo the online mode, and then the map too 19:08:55 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:54 *** Markk_ [~markk@91.90.24.184] has joined #openttd 19:12:10 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:13:43 *** MizardX [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:15 *** Sacro_ [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 19:14:25 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.24] has joined #openttd 19:14:27 *** MizardX [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 19:15:06 *** eQualizer|dada [~lauri@dyn12-192.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:15:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.198.218] has joined #openttd 19:15:39 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:40 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 19:16:13 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:33 *** Markk [~markk@91.90.24.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:48 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn12-192.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:53 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:53 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:10 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 19:17:14 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 19:17:48 *** MizardX [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:14 *** MizardX [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 19:19:21 *** welshdragon is now known as Guest305 19:19:22 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 19:19:26 *** Guest305 [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:21:43 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.173.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:59 *** MyCatVerbs [~mycatverb@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:29:22 <andythenorth> what did happen to new road / rail types? Did peter1138 just disappear? 19:29:28 <andythenorth> @seen petern 19:29:28 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: petern was last seen in #openttd 5 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 41 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <petern> *want 19:32:21 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:32:45 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 19:35:14 <Belugas> [14:55] <dihedral> oh Belugas, we do, we see your mood every single day <--- yeah... right... that i'm really sure... i'm just about to behead about 4 people 19:36:30 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 19:49:41 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:33 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 20:04:26 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:08:58 *** thingwath [~thingwath@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 20:12:37 <andythenorth> nfo....how would I get a random value (in a certain range) for an action D...._or_... 20:12:46 <andythenorth> ...is there a cb to change cargo payment rates? 20:13:09 <andythenorth> [use case is randomising cargo payment rates when a grf loads] 20:13:14 *** Markk_ is now known as Markk 20:13:51 *** MyCatVerbs [~mycatverb@62-31-161-29.cable.ubr11.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:16:54 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 20:17:53 *** jnd [~jenda@r5ai157.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 20:18:44 <jnd> hi, I can't find anywhere how to start server on different port, is it possible? 20:19:29 <Alberth> 'server_port' is a setting in your openttd.cfg 20:20:07 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA157.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:27:34 *** mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:50 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 20:27:57 <jnd> thanks 20:32:28 *** mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:35:45 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: how would you ensure the random value is reproduced on reload? 20:36:04 <planetmaker> hm... good question 20:36:06 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: very good question! 20:36:21 <andythenorth> What happens to register values during save game? 20:36:22 <planetmaker> hm... can we get the game seed? 20:36:25 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: best approach from an uninformed person would be an action 6 20:36:39 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, yes, but that has no random ;-) 20:38:03 <andythenorth> could be a parameter...are parameters bytes? (looks) 20:38:11 <planetmaker> can be. Need not be 20:38:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd presume them to be dwords 20:39:20 <andythenorth> planetmaker: with a crazy hack of the pre-processor, perhaps we could predefine a varied range of cargo payment rates? 20:39:28 <andythenorth> which would be switched by a parameter 20:40:23 <Eddi|zuHause> so you need a way to randomise a parameter if none is given, and reuse the saved parameter on reload 20:41:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know if persistent registers are saved, but they sound like they should be, for multiplayer synchronisation 20:42:06 <andythenorth> could be TMWFTLB 20:42:13 <andythenorth> in newgrf at any rate 20:42:19 <planetmaker> andythenorth, well, sure there could be. But the main problem is to actually decide on a value, if that shall be randomized 20:42:39 <andythenorth> planetmaker: player would have to choose one, between 0-255 for example 20:42:43 <andythenorth> with no documentation :D 20:42:46 <andythenorth> defaults to 0 of course 20:42:55 <andythenorth> "lucky dip" 20:44:10 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:27 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 20:44:42 <planetmaker> haha :-) Is an idea. 20:44:59 <planetmaker> but then... rather make a nice formula for it then. 20:45:38 <Eddi|zuHause> a few sanity checks should be provided, like steel should be more expensive than ore 20:45:56 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-3-20.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:46:12 <Eddi|zuHause> l 20:46:19 <andythenorth> it would probably end up being hand coded, and only about 16 options 20:46:22 <andythenorth> or even 8 20:46:35 <Eddi|zuHause> or in general secondary cargos more valuable than primary 20:46:49 <andythenorth> but we could recreate different economies, e.g. raw materials, consumer goods, agricultural, balanced etc 20:48:03 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:48:04 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:48:41 <andythenorth> I really wanted to start a game with farm cargos this week, but the payment rates are rubbish 20:48:48 <andythenorth> in FIRS at least :) 20:48:58 *** bb10 [~nnscript@dhcp-077-249-031-191.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:49:31 <planetmaker> andythenorth, is the balance of rates wrong or just the rates themselvesss 20:49:35 <planetmaker> s/ss/?/ 20:50:03 <andythenorth> planetmaker: thing is, there's no 'right' answer 20:50:22 *** mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:29 <planetmaker> hehe 20:50:31 <andythenorth> I want to learn the economy for each new game, not just play the same old same old 20:50:55 <andythenorth> every RT3 scenario has different payment rates, depending on the goals and the territory, era etc 20:51:39 <Eddi|zuHause> food products (dead, non-refrogerated) should be transported over short distances only 20:51:54 <andythenorth> potatoes? 20:52:04 <andythenorth> corned beef? 20:52:12 <andythenorth> pepper? 20:52:24 <andythenorth> salted fish? 20:52:42 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, why do I eat kiwis from New Zealand, potatoes from Chile and chicken from China here? 20:52:44 <andythenorth> canned beans? 20:52:49 <andythenorth> :D 20:53:07 <andythenorth> we were sailing round the planet before we invented refrigeration 20:53:13 <Alberth> live stock :) 20:53:17 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: because all those are frozen during transport 20:53:20 <andythenorth> although lots of people died that way :O 20:53:31 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, Bet the fruits aren't 20:53:43 <andythenorth> fruits are air freight. bad for food miles 20:53:46 <planetmaker> just in a cool environment 20:55:01 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: yes, and food supplies was the biggest problem at that time 20:55:46 *** Chillosophy [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:55:46 <planetmaker> sauerkraut! ;-) 20:57:43 <_ln> ok, so i was watching this documentary where an american actress/director says that "I'm an actor". is that right or not? 20:58:53 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:59:35 <Eddi|zuHause> english job descriptions are usually gender-neutral 21:00:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i wouldn't call it "wrong", but i wouldn't use it that way myself 21:00:45 <Xappu> how old has the company be to buy it's shares? 21:00:48 <Xappu> 5 years? 21:01:41 <Eddi|zuHause> something like that, yes 21:03:19 *** Chillosophy^ [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:05:02 <_ln> ok yeah 21:06:30 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejb29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 21:07:06 *** _teeone [oryan@look.at.all.my.lackies.com] has joined #openttd 21:07:15 *** SirSquid1ess [~sirsquidn@184.314.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:07:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.198.218] has joined #openttd 21:07:48 *** Chillosophy [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:03 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> graviton.oftc.net quits: Tefad, Rhamphoryncus, SirSquidness, Westie, CIA-9, gouki, teeone 21:08:05 <lugo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer_ship 21:10:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.198.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:47 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> osmotic.oftc.net quits: TrueBrain, @Belugas, Splex, mikegrb, Eddi|zuHause 21:11:32 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> larich.oftc.net quits: TheMask96-, Chillosophy^, N35, nicfer1, ccfreak2k 21:11:54 *** Netsplit over, joins: @Belugas, TrueBrain, Splex, mikegrb, Eddi|zuHause, gouki 21:12:32 *** Tefad_ [~tefad@c-98-249-11-38.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:12:32 *** Netsplit over, joins: Chillosophy^, TheMask96-, N35, ccfreak2k, nicfer1 21:12:44 <Zuu> Oh NICE :-D 21:14:23 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> weber.oftc.net quits: _teeone, ecke, Dred_furst` 21:14:29 *** Netsplit over, joins: _teeone, Dred_furst`, ecke 21:18:12 <Eddi|zuHause> m-m-MONSTERSPLIT! 21:19:31 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has joined #openttd 21:20:24 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:22:42 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 21:23:03 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:05 *** CIA-4 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 21:23:12 *** Wursthaut [~wursthaut@p578E3834.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 21:24:02 *** Westie [~westie@westie-cat.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:24:05 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.228.14] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24:55 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.228.14] has joined #openttd 21:25:59 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe611.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:32:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 21:33:52 *** frosch123 is now known as Guest32 21:34:34 *** Guest32 is now known as frosch_ 21:36:33 *** violetblood [~fcp@79.114.60.10] has joined #openttd 21:46:51 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@114.140.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 21:51:04 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 21:53:25 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@169.75.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:18 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 22:11:07 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [] 22:11:31 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17902 /trunk/src/table/settings.h: -Fix: make the plane speed setting unchangeable in network games because it can be read by NewGRFs on game load and thus if it changes cause desyncs 22:11:34 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 22:12:37 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA157.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:51 <Zuu> Sounds like a fun desync to debug :-) 22:15:26 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]] 22:15:29 <Rubidium> ah well... for the last time (knock on wood) most (if not all) desyncs have been found by code reviews and not via desync bug reports 22:15:47 <glx> to prevent the fun debugging :) 22:16:09 <Zuu> hehe :-) 22:17:50 <Zuu> Priceless "I want to make a new GUI system, but mine will not be 40.000 lines of code long. And if it does. The lines will be userfriendly coded" 22:18:19 <Zuu> At least we got some entertainment :-) 22:18:30 <Rubidium> YAADP 22:18:32 <frosch_> userfriendly sounds like kde4-like 22:19:01 <frosch_> so i am happy with the dev-friendly system :) 22:19:51 <frosch_> maybe he misses a form designer :p 22:20:14 <Zuu> Oh, Alberth asked him to elaborate on the userfriendly code. Looking forward to his answer tomorrow. :-) 22:21:11 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:21:23 <Zuu> I actually wrote a simple form-designer for my own widget system way back ago. 22:21:40 <Zuu> Lets say, it was in visual basic 6.0. :-) 22:22:27 *** smoggy [smoller@x1-6-00-50-ba-09-40-c8.k781.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 22:22:49 <smoggy> hi 22:23:43 <Rubidium> frosch_: but Alberth is our form designer, isn't he? :) 22:24:36 <frosch_> alberth is the lord of the gui 22:25:43 <frosch_> one dev to rule them all 22:26:03 <Rubidium> well... then devs aren't pigs 22:26:26 <frosch_> pigs? 22:26:42 <frosch_> of flies? 22:26:49 <frosch_> *or 22:27:20 <Prof_Frink> Silly frosch. 22:27:23 <Rubidium> @commit 1599 22:27:23 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: Commit by bjarni :: r1599 trunk/economy.c (2005-01-22 23:41:23 UTC) 22:27:24 <Prof_Frink> Pigs can't fly. 22:27:25 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: fix: autoreplace window now updates when inflation alters prices 22:27:26 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: Hackykid and not LordOfThePigs pointed out the update problem fixed in rev 1597. Sorry. Sometimes development can get too fast 22:28:09 <frosch_> ah, that is the subsididies gui, right? and also member of tfc? 22:28:35 <Rubidium> yup 22:28:48 <Rubidium> although diaries, not didies 22:29:06 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 22:29:59 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejb29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 22:31:53 <smoggy> can i please ask a question about some settings when running a server? if this is the right place ofc :) 22:32:19 <Prof_Frink> Depends what sort of server 22:32:43 <smoggy> this opentdd 22:33:59 <Zuu> sure you could ask a question, the main question is if you get an answer or not. 22:34:43 * frosch_ is happy that there are no 42-fools in the channel 22:35:22 <smoggy> hehe ok, ive set this "setting min_active_clients 1" then i understand there should be atleast 1 active client else the game will pause 22:35:34 <smoggy> but it dont 22:35:49 <Rubidium> it is a dedicated server? 22:35:55 <Rubidium> and you haven't manually paused/unpaused it? 22:36:24 <smoggy> uhm i use this 0.7.3 opentdd 22:36:39 <smoggy> no havent hit pause hehe 22:36:44 <Zuu> Did you start the server from within the GUI? 22:36:55 <smoggy> nope 22:37:02 <smoggy> from main 22:37:06 <smoggy> menu 22:37:40 <Zuu> Still sounds like you used a graphical user interface. 22:38:12 <Zuu> Which means that you do most likely not run a dedicated server. 22:38:32 <smoggy> whats dedicated? 22:38:39 <smoggy> hehe 22:39:35 <Rubidium> a server running without graphical output 22:39:45 <Zuu> I'm not enterly sure on this, but I think in non-dedicated mode your client/server takes one slot in the game. 22:40:19 <smoggy> yes indeed it does, also when i restart game or start nw server i start with client 22:40:20 <Zuu> So if you want it to pause when no other clients are connected you have to set min_active_clients to two. 22:40:36 <smoggy> tried that, not working either 22:40:38 <Zuu> Or run a dedicated server with the setting set to 1. 22:40:47 <Rubidium> might be that min_active_clients doesn't work with non-dedicated servers 22:41:10 <smoggy> yes maybe 22:41:26 <smoggy> how can i run this dedicated? 22:41:37 <Rubidium> oh, scrap the 'might be that' 22:41:45 <Zuu> openttd(.exe) --help gives you some information about that 22:42:28 <Zuu> Ie, you have to bring up your terminal unless you know the other possible ways to pass arguments to programs in GUI. 22:44:05 <smoggy> hmm ok will try read a bit about dedicated ;) thx for the help 22:52:56 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.124.206] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:53:58 <Zuu> andythenorth: Your tow boat with variable max speed, have you put any though into what an AI will see? A quick or a slow ship? 22:54:35 <Zuu> I guess the lower speed is better since then the AI will not be mislead that the ship is better than it actually is. 22:55:07 <frosch_> or the avarage speed for a normal a->b->a shedule? 22:55:43 <Zuu> An average speed could also work. 22:56:52 *** violetblood [~fcp@79.114.60.10] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:56:59 *** violetblood [~fcp@79.114.60.10] has joined #openttd 22:57:29 <frosch_> hmm, maybe i should go to bed before starting wondering whether it is a geometric mean or something else 22:58:23 <frosch_> night 22:58:28 *** frosch_ [~frosch@frnk-590fe611.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58:41 <Zuu> Sounds like a good idea.. 22:58:42 <Zuu> night 22:58:46 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-75fae253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:00:55 *** violetblood [~fcp@79.114.60.10] has quit [] 23:01:18 <Rhamphoryncus> Aww bugger. My plan to transfer diamonds from a plane onto a truck for delivery in the center of the city came to a screeching halt when I realized I had no trucks available for diamonds :( 23:03:49 <Rhamphoryncus> huh, there should be one 23:05:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B444.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:19 <smoggy> oh yes the auto pause thingie works on dedicated :)) 23:13:00 *** thepalm [~chatzilla@CPE-121-210-80-70.slzx1.cht.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:20:06 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:25:21 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@114.140.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 23:30:24 <smoggy> cya 23:30:26 *** smoggy [smoller@x1-6-00-50-ba-09-40-c8.k781.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 23:31:36 <Eddi|zuHause> Rhamphoryncus: so you used an incompatible road vehicle set? 23:31:42 *** FR^2 [frr@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 23:42:06 <Belugas> grrrrr... getting nicer every day... 23:42:15 <Belugas> finish later, and go back to work when you come home 23:42:20 *** Chillosophy^ [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:24 <Belugas> fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck 23:44:51 * Sacro reports Belugas for his language 23:45:33 *** Belugas was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [your fucking language, you fucking old slut] 23:45:42 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 23:45:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 23:45:51 <Belugas> better ? ;) 23:46:30 * welshdragon washes Belugas' mouth out with soap 23:46:52 <Eddi|zuHause> what about you hire me, and i come to canada to relieve you from some of your work? :p 23:47:25 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEe294.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51:33 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DE906.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: May the schwartz be with you! 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