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#openttd 08:30:06 <Zuu> good morning 08:35:33 <Alberth> moin 09:04:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B8DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:15:22 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:16:41 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab6e5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:19:36 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 09:19:58 <fjb> Moin 09:39:16 *** DanMacK [~here@65.94.201.53] has joined #openttd 09:39:31 <DanMacK> Hello all 09:40:34 <fjb> Moin DanMacK 09:45:21 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:48:06 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:50:32 <planetmaker> Hello DanMacK 09:57:19 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:00:09 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 10:00:17 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C08D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:02:04 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.249.21] has joined #openttd 10:05:22 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdd3e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:07:47 *** jpx_ [jpx_@e83-245-131-49.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:10:44 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E9A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:15:55 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@179.67.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 10:17:42 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:18:50 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:20:07 *** DanMacK [~here@65.94.201.53] has quit [] 10:21:20 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-18-119.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26:12 <fonsinchen> If you'd like to play a nice cargodist multiplayer game with the latest version built by the compile farm yesterday (available at http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/) you can do so on mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 . 10:28:59 <andythenorth> hi hi 10:28:59 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.205.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:32:27 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 10:33:50 <andythenorth> is 'truck convoy' an acceptable type of RV? 10:35:56 <planetmaker> hello andythenorth 10:35:56 <Zuu> fonsinchen: Thes server reports version "g5b3732ce-carg" but the win32 binary reports "g5b3732ce-cargodist" and thus I can't join the server. 10:36:10 <frosch123> is that a direct upgrade from sheep-flock? 10:36:19 <planetmaker> I'd call it "road train". That's an established word in Australia IIRC 10:36:31 <planetmaker> frosch123: intermediate via sheep train 10:36:42 <planetmaker> *sheep convoy 10:36:50 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e065bd1.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:37:24 <Zuu> Not sure if it is your fault or if the version scripts cut the version at different length depending on platform. 10:38:09 <planetmaker> o-O 10:38:17 <ccfreak2k> planetmaker, it actually looks like two words to me. 10:38:36 <KenjiE20> "2. Unforeseen Consequences" 10:38:56 <planetmaker> ccfreak2k: http://www.google.de/search?q=road+train 10:39:08 <planetmaker> google.com probably will work, too ;-) 10:39:11 <andythenorth> road train is one truck, many trailers 10:39:19 <planetmaker> yes. 10:39:24 <fonsinchen> argh 10:39:26 <andythenorth> I am thinking of multiple trucks 10:39:35 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1ec000-127.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:39:38 <planetmaker> andythenorth: but multiple trucks should be multiple vehicles 10:39:41 <andythenorth> meh 10:39:47 <fonsinchen> Zuu, where does it report that? 10:39:48 <planetmaker> nothing the newgrf decides for the player 10:40:02 <fonsinchen> the server, I mean 10:40:05 <Zuu> The client version is printed at the top of the title window. 10:40:23 <Zuu> The server version you can see in the multiplayer window at the right. 10:40:26 <andythenorth> it seems IRL farm produce used to move in 3t-5t trucks until a few decades ago. For a farm producing even 90t / month, that's a boring amount of trucks 10:40:46 <fonsinchen> For me the server also reports the shortened string, but I can connect 10:41:00 <Zuu> It says VERSION MISMATCH here 10:41:09 <Zuu> fonsinchen: What does your client say? 10:41:13 <Zuu> carg or cargodist? 10:41:15 <fonsinchen> Also the long string 10:41:32 * andythenorth ponders 10:41:54 <Zuu> hmm, strange 10:42:01 <fonsinchen> where did you click to make it say "version mismatch"? 10:42:15 <andythenorth> industry type 'farms'.....several together, serve them by train 10:42:22 <andythenorth> or....lower farm production 10:42:23 <Zuu> I didn't click anywhere it says that on the left under the server stats. 10:42:29 <Zuu> And the join game button is greyed out. 10:42:43 <Zuu> The server has a red status symbol as well. 10:43:02 <fonsinchen> wtf?!? 10:43:02 <planetmaker> andythenorth: then I don't think it's something a newgrf should fix 10:43:38 <planetmaker> 90t = 3...4 trucks a month 10:43:59 <fonsinchen> Zuu, please quote the exact version string you see in the main menu. 10:44:00 <planetmaker> which is not that bad considering that a normal diary farm is served by a truck every day or every 2nd day 10:44:19 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E9A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:44:47 <Zuu> Oh, now I see there is an M also: "g5b3732ceM-cargodist" 10:45:02 <Zuu> I guess that is the problem. 10:45:20 <andythenorth> planetmaker: with 3t trucks (or horse wagons) it's more like 30 trucks... 10:45:22 <planetmaker> Zuu: did you by chance grab the wrong one? I set the wrong dl thing 10:45:25 <planetmaker> initially 10:45:41 <KenjiE20> pm; I got the same thing 10:45:58 <planetmaker> andythenorth: yeah... but then change that to reasonable amounts for game play balance purposes. 10:46:04 <planetmaker> Realism... :-) 10:46:04 <Zuu> I downloaded http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-windows-win32.zip 10:46:13 <fonsinchen> the problem is that the compile farm has built a "modified" version. 10:46:25 <fonsinchen> Rubidium, can that be fixed? 10:46:30 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:47:11 <Zuu> IIRC it is a one-liner change in the vbs-script. 10:47:33 <fonsinchen> do we have the same problem with other versions? 10:47:39 <fonsinchen> for other OS? 10:47:41 * planetmaker compiles 10:48:12 <Zuu> fonsinchen: Did you make any changes to the version scripts? 10:48:20 <fonsinchen> no 10:48:36 <KenjiE20> awesome; windows-win32-error.log is just full of grep.exe errors 10:48:41 <Zuu> Otherwise you might be at the situation that only the server is "modified", but I suggest that you test at least the linux binary and see. 10:49:18 <Zuu> fonsinchen: You're at linux right? 10:49:25 <fonsinchen> the server doesn't have the "M" in the version string. The win32 binary does 10:49:32 <fonsinchen> yes, but I have compiled mysel 10:49:54 <Zuu> Perhaps you could try the farm-binary and see what version it reports. 10:50:50 * planetmaker downloaded the source and will see what it reports on OSX then when compiled 10:51:12 <fonsinchen> also has the "M" 10:51:32 <KenjiE20> checking revision... git detection <-- I wonder 10:51:41 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 10:52:01 <fonsinchen> maybe we just change the server to also report "M" 10:52:15 <fonsinchen> the binaries are probably all "modified" 10:52:19 <planetmaker> we should compile the server from the source bundle 10:52:34 <fonsinchen> why? 10:52:41 <planetmaker> then it's for sure the same thing 10:52:55 <fonsinchen> I wouldn't be too sure about that 10:53:01 <planetmaker> whereever the 'M' comes from. Or do you know what the 'M' indicates as modified? 10:53:04 <fonsinchen> we don't know where the M got inserted 10:53:18 <KenjiE20> when pm says source bundle, he means the linux-generic .tar.gz 10:53:32 <KenjiE20> I presume 10:53:49 <planetmaker> well. That'd be even easier, I guess. I meant building from -source.tar.bz2 10:53:52 <fonsinchen> I can easily make the server display the M by just changing on line in the source 10:54:03 <fonsinchen> I'll just do that now 10:54:18 <planetmaker> I consider that dangerous 10:54:32 <Zuu> M basically says that it is not plain trunk IIRC. 10:54:37 <planetmaker> ^ 10:55:03 <fonsinchen> so, what shall we do? recompile everything? 10:55:26 <planetmaker> just use the version which is offered for download also on the server 10:55:33 <fonsinchen> basically the compile farm wrongly reports it has modified the source 10:55:36 <planetmaker> easiest proposal IMHO 10:55:42 <Zuu> The easiest would be to re-compile the server for now. 10:55:52 <fonsinchen> I cannot imagine that it did and if it did I wouldn't trust it to work, either. 10:56:31 <planetmaker> fonsinchen: I guess the repo from where it pulled is your working repo? 10:56:48 <planetmaker> Then it might just have those mods which you had (not yet commited). 10:57:25 <fonsinchen> The compile farm pulls from my public repository 10:57:55 <fonsinchen> by definition the code there is not modified wrt my published version of cargodist 10:58:32 <planetmaker> lovely. The source built reports as norev000 10:58:42 <KenjiE20> 11:51:38 KenjiE20 | checking revision... git detection <-- I wonder 10:59:08 <Zuu> I would guess that unless the version scripts support git it would be modified against SVN trunk 10:59:22 <Zuu> Eg, the same as I think KenjiE20 is trying to highlight. 10:59:31 <KenjiE20> quite 10:59:46 <fonsinchen> but the "M" is appended to my git version 10:59:58 <Zuu> Pretty much any patch build would get an M. 11:00:06 <fonsinchen> BTW, we had the same problem in June last year 11:00:07 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@80.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 11:00:14 <fonsinchen> I solved it in the same way and it worked 11:00:31 <Terkhen> hello 11:00:39 <Zuu> I don't see the problem. You have modified source code wrt. svn trunk and why do you not want the M then? 11:00:56 <fonsinchen> if the base version is my cargodist version (which it detects) then there is no patch on top of that 11:01:26 <fonsinchen> but, whatever, if the "modified" is just for "modified from trunk" then we can as well just add the "M" (which I have done) 11:01:53 <KenjiE20> I would guess that it seeing the .git stuff as trunk 'mods' 11:02:01 <KenjiE20> or something 11:02:26 <Zuu> It was long time ago since I took a look at the version scripts. To get the "truth" you probably have to look into them and see what they actually does. 11:02:45 <fonsinchen> it doesn't matter anyway. The compile farm has hopefully built the git revision it tells us. 11:02:56 <fonsinchen> If it hasn't we have a serious problem. 11:03:34 <fonsinchen> But if it has it doesn't matter if there's an additional "M" in the version string, so we can as well just add it to our server. 11:03:50 <Zuu> fonsinchen: If you are in doubt you could diff the source tar ball against a check out from your respority. 11:04:17 <fonsinchen> I am actually not as I know the compile farm's git revision detection is broken 11:04:29 <fonsinchen> it did the exact same thing in June last year 11:07:52 <planetmaker> but didn't it work last summerà 11:07:56 <planetmaker> s/Ã/?/ 11:08:01 <fonsinchen> yes 11:13:14 <fonsinchen> It should work now. I have changed the server to also report itself as "modified" 11:15:02 <Zuu> Yep, now I can join. 11:19:14 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:22:36 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 11:31:43 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:35:11 <Rubidium> fonsinchen: I have no idea where the M comes from and don't really have the time to hunt for that right now either 11:38:20 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DA26B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:41:02 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1ec000-127.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:48:56 *** aber [~Adium@p5B3238C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:50:57 <fonsinchen> It's OK, it works now 11:51:21 <fonsinchen> I'll keep a note ... 11:52:43 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1ec000-127.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:55:09 <andythenorth> having farms that produce seasonally....just too evil? 11:55:34 <Forked> very realistic though *hides from Belugas* 11:55:59 <andythenorth> also screws with your nice tidy network for three months of the year :) 11:56:18 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause is the alpine fan here :) 11:56:21 <Rubidium> andythenorth: as long as you introduce greenhouses that deliver all year round :) 11:56:27 <andythenorth> yep 11:56:36 <andythenorth> I am thinking grain primarily 11:56:44 <frosch123> when i played it i serviced farms so the train drives only once a year, i.e. loads during summer and delivers in winter :p 11:57:27 <andythenorth> the only reason I've not done it so far is that it can leave a train making no money.... 11:57:43 <andythenorth> seasonal conditional orders? :o 11:59:52 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:00:45 <andythenorth> or Pikka-style variable running costs (low costs when not moving) 12:01:10 <andythenorth> or high payment rate for the cargo 12:01:45 <andythenorth> or flat payment decay curve so that trucks can deliver to the elevator for pickup by trains year-round 12:04:48 <ccfreak2k> andythenorth, or "available cargo" orders. 12:07:22 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 12:09:46 *** Tennel [~Tennel@pD9529C91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:15:37 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 12:25:32 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: terkhen * r19521 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: Use a IndustryType array to sort industries by name instead of a LegendAndColour array. 12:29:53 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: terkhen * r19522 /trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp: -Feature: Sort industries alphabetically at the fund new industry window. 12:30:43 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: heffer] 12:31:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-33-24.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:33:05 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 12:45:36 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f4bc:4d61:3633:c45] has joined #openttd 12:45:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:53:05 *** woldemar [~osaka@213.178.34.57] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:15 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:55:57 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0f817.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:58:05 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:00:01 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F508.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:03:03 *** woldemar [~osaka@213.178.34.57] has joined #openttd 13:07:47 *** Tennel [~Tennel@pD9529C91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.1.1] 13:07:58 <Eddi|zuHause> <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause is the alpine fan here :) <-- honestly, i never serviced such a farm... 13:10:51 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:52 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 13:26:32 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 13:27:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B8DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:28:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i always end up having a passenger network, no matter how hard i try :) 13:30:25 <Rubidium> hmm, still 1500 0.6.3 downloads a week. Is the old AI that special? 13:32:53 <fjb> It is easy to beat. 13:34:29 <PeterT> whereas the new AIs are hard-to-beat? 13:35:38 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 13:36:30 <fjb> Don't know, but the old ai is still easier to beat. And some people complained about it being too hard. 13:36:57 <Eddi|zuHause> some people manage to get outperformed by the old ai :p 13:39:16 <planetmaker> Folks, re-joice :-) You can now download a new release of OpenGFX, version 0.2.2 13:39:43 <PeterT> what's changed? 13:40:04 <fjb> Hay bales? 13:40:11 <planetmaker> houses and maglev and monorail vehicles mostly 13:40:27 <planetmaker> but some other things and fixes, too. 13:40:34 <PeterT> Ok, downloaded 13:40:38 <planetmaker> fjb: unfortunately not 13:41:35 <planetmaker> But I have that on my list of things I'd definitely like to see changed for 0.3 13:41:42 <planetmaker> But it needs an artist... 13:44:38 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 13:45:29 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:49:21 *** Chrill^ [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 13:49:26 *** Chrill^ [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 14:08:21 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8dc39.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:12:27 *** goblin_ [~goblin@dslb-094-218-137-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:56:57 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:04:10 *** goblin_ [~goblin@dslb-094-218-137-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:11 <George> Hi. 15:09:45 <George> need help with strange behaviour of OTTS according to wagons (R19519) 15:10:02 <George> The following wagon does not appear in the list 15:10:11 <George> 407 * 71 00 00 1C 01 5C 15:10:11 <George> 00 \w1920/1/1 15:10:11 <George> 02 0F 15:10:11 <George> 03 \b17 15:10:11 <George> 04 \b255 15:10:12 <George> 05 00 15:10:12 <George> 06 0F 15:10:14 <George> 07 \b10 15:10:14 <George> 08 00 15:10:16 <George> 09 \w130 15:10:16 <George> 0B \w0 15:10:18 <George> 0D 00 15:10:18 <George> 0E 00 00 00 00 15:10:20 <George> 12 FD 15:10:20 <George> 13 00 15:10:21 <PeterT> paste.openttd.org 15:10:22 <George> 14 \b32 15:10:22 <George> 15 FF 15:10:24 <George> 16 10 15:10:24 <George> 17 10 15:10:26 <George> 18 00 15:10:26 <George> 19 00 15:10:28 <George> 1A 00 15:10:28 <George> 1B \w0 15:10:30 <George> 1C 00 15:10:30 <George> 1E 12 15:10:31 <PeterT> Seriouisly. 15:10:32 <George> 1F 00 15:10:32 <George> 20 00 15:10:34 <George> 27 01 15:10:34 <George> 2A \d0/1/1 15:10:42 <George> But as soon as I define power, it appears (but as train) 15:11:03 <frosch123> something with railtypes? 15:11:19 <George> http://paste.openttd.org/225431 15:11:30 <George> I had not defined any 15:12:00 <George> Do I need to provide a GRF? 15:12:06 <frosch123> is any of its refit cargos available? 15:12:31 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 15:13:43 <George> 15 FF 15:14:19 <planetmaker> seriously... use a paste service... 15:14:37 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: terkhen * r19523 /trunk/src/smallmap_gui.cpp: -Fix: Prevent drawing industries disabled at the smallmap as land tiles when they are built on water. 15:14:59 <George> do you mean a need to define prop 28 anyway? 15:15:01 <frosch123> George: you neither set 1d nor 28 15:15:03 <Jolteon> lol how did he not get flood kicked. 15:15:17 <PeterT> I don't think #openttd has a FloodBot 15:15:20 <PeterT> it should 15:15:30 <frosch123> maybe if a wagon is not able to carry anything it is not available. at least that is done for road vehicles 15:15:37 <PeterT> The only flood protection this channel has is +l 175 15:16:01 <Jolteon> Network services should have a flookick 15:16:03 <Jolteon> flood 15:16:21 <George> frosch123: Thank you, it helped 15:16:34 <Rubidium> Jolteon: unless the client sends out lines at a speed that does not flood trigger 15:16:37 <PeterT> /msg ChanServ HELP SET FloodServ 15:17:15 *** Chillosophy [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:17:27 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:29:00 *** SmatZ__ [~Miranda@a40-prg1-22-216.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 15:29:03 <SmatZ__> hello 15:29:09 <SmatZ__> my HDD died :( 15:29:13 <PeterT> Hi SmatZ__ 15:29:22 <PeterT> Where are you using IRC from? 15:29:24 <TrueBrain> awwwhhh, that sucks SmatZ__! 15:29:26 <SmatZ__> the sounds it does are really scary 15:29:32 <SmatZ__> from different compter :) 15:29:38 <TrueBrain> you have backups I hope? 15:29:39 <Terkhen> hi SmatZ__ :( 15:29:46 <SmatZ__> luckily I have backup from last week 15:30:15 <PeterT> that's good 15:30:29 <PeterT> How did it die? 15:30:38 <SmatZ__> suddenly 15:30:47 <TrueBrain> SmatZ__: if needed, you can mos tlikely get it to work for very short bursts :) 15:30:51 *** PeterT_ [~PeterT@petert.zernebok.net] has joined #openttd 15:31:03 <SmatZ__> I turned on PC, and while KDE was starting, it started doing those sounds 15:31:32 <SmatZ__> I can read from sda1,2,3,5, but sda6,7,8 are not available 15:31:35 <SmatZ__> strange 15:32:01 <SmatZ__> TrueBrain: I hope so :) 15:35:45 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: -- End of NFO Renum 'settings <- misses closing ' :p 15:36:20 *** PeterT_ [~PeterT@petert.zernebok.net] has quit [Quit: Goodbye] 15:36:38 *** goblin_ [~goblin@dslb-094-218-137-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:38:00 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:40:42 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: why has WT3 gone haywire because of cases again? (since r19519) 15:40:54 <TrueBrain> did it ever not? :) 15:41:24 <TrueBrain> but define 'haywire'? 15:42:29 <Rubidium> 2 pending strings that aren't pending 15:42:39 <TrueBrain> ah, if you define that as haywire .. sure 15:42:41 <Rubidium> i.e. 2 pending strings that aren't committed 15:42:44 <TrueBrain> I just call it a reoccouring bug 15:42:56 <TrueBrain> they are commited 15:43:40 <TrueBrain> more happy this way? 15:44:06 <PeterT> SmatZ__: Good luck. 15:44:07 <Rubidium> will it happen again? 15:44:15 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r19524 /extra/ottd_grf/split/ (openttd.nfo openttdgui.nfo shore.nfo): [OTTD_GRF] -Fix [FS#TB]: please our loyal "'" checker. 15:44:15 <TrueBrain> and again and again and again 15:44:23 <TrueBrain> like it always did 15:45:42 <TrueBrain> it is a very rare bug, which is easy to repeat, but a bitch to fix; it only happens 1 out of the .. 500? strings WT3 commits, so ... not worth any real time ;) 15:46:06 <Rubidium> it seems to be related to cases 15:47:18 <TrueBrain> yup 15:47:22 <TrueBrain> and only to cases 15:56:52 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:57:40 *** noeN [~Neon@dslb-088-069-239-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:00:10 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-147-043.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:01:18 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-147-043.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:03:40 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-218-025.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:03 *** Sevalecan [Sevalecan@24-247-215-148.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:05:48 <Ammler> oh, sac claims credits for swedish houses :-) 16:06:33 <planetmaker> lol 16:06:48 <planetmaker> I thought Irwe drew them? 16:08:13 <planetmaker> oh oh. I see another muddy fight surfacing 16:10:26 <Ammler> I would guess, irwe draw it like sac, but he did it self 16:10:41 <Ammler> as irwe is capable to 16:12:05 *** goblin_ [~goblin@dslb-094-218-137-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:56 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 16:14:48 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=859581#p859581 <-- I guess he encouraged here ;-) 16:16:13 <andythenorth> compare: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=535922#p535922 16:16:31 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=866989#p866989 16:17:06 <andythenorth> not same, but similar 16:21:47 <planetmaker> same RL building, I guess 16:22:26 <planetmaker> looking at that: he drew it all himself. 16:23:26 <andythenorth> he's clearly taken inspiration for the windows, but that's no problem 16:24:20 <planetmaker> might be. But there's only so much you can do IMHO in order to get windows properly drawn. 16:24:31 <planetmaker> He might even not have seen that. Dunno :-) 16:24:40 <andythenorth> I do believe that one or two of us may have been 'inspired' by the work of Simon Foster anyway :o 16:24:50 <planetmaker> :-) Very true 16:25:24 <andythenorth> someone should pm Irwe and tell him not to worry... 16:26:13 <planetmaker> you're the art-man here :-) 16:29:28 *** Luffy-X- [~Luffy@189.191.124.50] has joined #openttd 16:29:39 <Luffy-X-> hi 16:29:46 <planetmaker> ho 16:32:06 <Luffy-X-> i you speacks spanish? 16:33:28 <fjb> Hm, will INFRA or DBsetXL 0.9 be released first? 16:33:59 <planetmaker> I even offered her to code her houses. But she declined. 16:34:26 <frosch123> fjb: it's called simuscape now 16:34:32 <planetmaker> I mean... I have a house grf written. It just needs sprites. 16:35:02 <fjb> frosch123: I care for the name as much as for the set. :-) 16:35:22 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:54 <fjb> Irwe does a great job. And you can see that he paints his houses on his own. It is well documented in the thread. 16:36:39 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=859581#p859581 <--- I agrre, fjb, but... :-) 16:37:25 <fjb> And SAC got things from other sets for her use. That will give her problems if she tries to release her set one day. 16:41:34 <fjb> The few things which are taken from INFRA can be redrawn. And some things look like the same even if drawn independently at that scale. 16:44:09 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 16:44:42 <Jolteon> INFRA is hot. 16:44:47 <Jolteon> The model of IKEA she did is <3 16:45:08 <planetmaker> and unavailable till further notice ;-) 16:46:01 <fjb> SAC and MB should marry. 16:57:10 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 17:05:49 *** Luffy-X- [~Luffy@189.191.124.50] has left #openttd [Saliendo] 17:06:41 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 17:08:43 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0be718.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:10:37 <Ammler> well, as long as she claims credits only, it doesn't hurt, it is even a valid thing. 17:11:29 <Ammler> she could also be a bit rude and ask for removing her work... 17:12:14 <fjb> Irwe already gave credits in the readme. 17:25:55 *** Pe1erT [~Peter@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:18 *** Pe1erT [~Peter@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 17:27:31 <Eoin> swedish houses is sexy 17:28:06 <PeterT> Extremely 17:29:30 <planetmaker> possibly the nicest looking house newgrf around :-) 17:31:01 <ccfreak2k> They do look nice. 17:31:23 <ccfreak2k> The lightpoles/flagpoles/whateverpoles are visually jarring, but other than that they're great. 17:31:30 <Eoin> i do wish everyone would agree to release graphics under one "license" 17:31:39 <Eoin> like pick-n-mix :D 17:33:58 <planetmaker> :-) 17:34:21 <Eoin> hell 17:34:24 * planetmaker considers to "steal" Swedish houses and put them into OpenGFX as arctic versions 17:34:29 <Eoin> i think the only grfs i ever drew 17:34:37 <Eoin> one is in that british rail set 17:34:41 <Eoin> one was in the world plane set 17:34:45 <Eoin> dunno if it still is :P 17:39:25 <Terkhen> which order would be best for sorting cargos? I'm thinking about showing cargos with a passenger class first, then cargos with a mail class and all other cargos afterwards (each group sorted by name) 17:39:34 <Terkhen> or maybe just sorting by cargo name is simpler? 17:39:59 <Terkhen> http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/screenshots/sorted_cargos_standard.png <-- right now it looks this way 17:41:36 <frosch123> or sort them by the payment value on the left 17:43:24 <frosch123> but, i never looks at those graphs :) 17:43:51 *** Hackykid [~quassel@86.85.232.104] has joined #openttd 17:44:59 *** PeterT_ [~Peter@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:07 <Terkhen> that would be another feature, right now I want to make simpler to select cargo types 17:45:22 <Terkhen> the filter by cargo dropdown at the build vehicle window would use the same sorted list 17:45:50 <andythenorth> Terkhen: your png makes sense 17:46:02 <andythenorth> PAX, mail, others a-Z 17:46:19 <frosch123> and tourists? after pax or with the rest? 17:48:39 <Terkhen> before or after passengers, depending on the exact strings 17:49:53 <frosch123> ok, that would put the cargos i hardly ever transport at the top :) 17:50:48 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F508.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:51:31 <Terkhen> http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/screenshots/sorted_cargos_firs.png 17:52:13 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 17:52:20 <planetmaker> that looks nice :-) 17:52:43 <frosch123> yup :) 17:52:56 <planetmaker> except: the y-axis scaling is poor 17:55:17 <Terkhen> as a side effect it removes special cargos from the graph too (regearing) 17:58:50 <andythenorth> how does it do that? 17:59:19 <Terkhen> all cargos with a special cargo class are ignored 17:59:29 <andythenorth> nice 18:02:09 *** aber [~Adium@p5B3238C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:06:42 *** Yexo [~Yexo@205-89-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 18:06:58 *** Yexo [~Yexo@205-89-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 18:07:16 *** Tennel [~Tennel@port-ip-213-211-212-60.reverse.mdcc-fun.de] has joined #openttd 18:08:07 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:08:17 <Alberth> fonsinchen: my debug output says: dbg: [misc] frozen not in linkstat list. don't know how long ago 18:09:32 <PeterT> fonsinchen: huge desync 18:09:34 <Alberth> planetmaker: y axis scaling was bad already :p 18:10:14 <planetmaker> Alberth, I know :-) I just wanted to bring it up as a small nudge ;-) 18:10:23 <frosch123> esp. because the y axis scaling is only caused by "It's a bit arbitrary, but it makes the cargo payment graph look a little * nicer (...)" 18:10:53 <Alberth> planetmaker: you're too late: FS#3726 :) 18:11:31 <planetmaker> :-) 18:11:49 <planetmaker> frosch123, oh, that sounds... scary :-) 18:12:43 <frosch123> well, the problem seems to be that the graph cannot scale more than 1 unit per pixel, so if the highest payment is 150 and the window is 500 pixels high you get 350 unused pixels 18:14:05 <frosch123> btw. the graph gui is not scalable, so it is only your fault by adding so many cargos :p 18:14:46 <Rubidium> the screenshot of FS#3726 is kinda fishy 18:15:25 <frosch123> what's wrong with it? 18:15:34 <Rubidium> why is the amount of money 100,000 dollars on that date? It looks like he just started the game to make the screenshot, but then he should have 200,000 dollars (or 100,000 pounds) 18:15:56 <planetmaker> Rubidium, not with a custom $ 18:16:09 <planetmaker> My "DM" are also the same number as pounds 18:18:00 <frosch123> then it's a "PM" 18:18:22 <planetmaker> :-D 18:18:25 *** nfc [~nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:20:18 <Alberth> we had some very nice graph some time back, with a black background iirc 18:31:45 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@80.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:49 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@224.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 18:33:25 <Terkhen> I remember an ancient patch like that too, the graphs looked nice 18:33:54 <OwenS> Black background would be an awesome improvement 18:34:22 <Terkhen> coal would become invisible then 18:34:30 <OwenS> Recolour it 18:35:21 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:42 *** PeterT_ [~Peter@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:41 *** PeterT_ [~Peter@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:39:22 <Terkhen> to what colour? it must be a colour that will never be used for any other cargos, to avoid confusions 18:40:16 <frosch123> the old grey :p 18:40:44 <andythenorth> colours are defined by newgrf anyway 18:40:47 <Terkhen> true :P 18:41:04 <andythenorth> the rest of the GUI is grey, leave it grey ;) 18:48:33 <SmatZ__> the HDD failed today was bought 11.07.2005 18:48:40 <SmatZ__> and it has 5 years warranty :) 18:48:49 <OwenS> SmatZ__: 5 years? Jeeze 18:48:55 <OwenS> My failed HD only had a 3 year warranty 18:49:00 <SmatZ__> :( 18:49:10 <OwenS> And was 3y3m 18:49:38 <SmatZ__> :-( 18:49:47 <OwenS> Meh 18:49:55 <OwenS> 3 years is a good life for a HDD used as intensively as it was 18:52:16 <glx> SmatZ__: you're lucky it seems :) 18:52:58 <SmatZ__> hehe :) 19:04:14 <fonsinchen> what, desync? 19:04:16 <fonsinchen> where? 19:05:21 <fonsinchen> petert, have you been disconnected by desync? 19:05:53 <planetmaker> fonsinchen, at 20:07: 19:05:57 <planetmaker> <Tycoon> *** alberth has left the game (connection lost) 19:05:57 <planetmaker> <Tycoon> *** BlueEagle_NL has left the game (desync error) 19:05:57 <planetmaker> <Tycoon> *** Fab has left the game (desync error) 19:05:57 <planetmaker> <Tycoon> *** Zuuu has left the game (desync error) 19:05:57 <planetmaker> <Tycoon> *** Kogut has left the game (desync error) 19:06:05 <planetmaker> you were even online... 19:06:19 <fonsinchen> I didn't notice it ... 19:06:40 <fonsinchen> does the server autosave? 19:06:41 <planetmaker> scroll up in the channel. Some were not, including you 19:06:46 <planetmaker> IIRC yes 19:10:10 <Rubidium> okay, now for something totally insane... do the ones that desync have a relatively slow computer and the ones that don't a relatively fast computer? 19:10:53 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-18-119.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:11:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B8DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:11:38 <fonsinchen> I just was desynced myself. My computer is definitely not slow 19:13:15 <Rubidium> it's just a hypothesis that the thread is reading something it shouldn't read (anymore), or writing something it shouldn't write (yet) 19:13:42 <fonsinchen> The thread and the main games operate on completely separate data sets 19:13:47 <fonsinchen> that was never a problem 19:14:08 <fonsinchen> Last time the problem was that I had a > operation on pointers somewhere 19:14:10 <planetmaker> right now everyone desynced anyway 19:16:57 <Alberth> was the desync caused by me? 19:17:14 <fonsinchen> How should you cause it? 19:17:15 <Rubidium> Alberth: partly 19:17:26 <planetmaker> Alberth, how could you? 19:17:30 <planetmaker> How dare you?! ;-) 19:17:34 <Alberth> I just closed the app 19:17:46 <Alberth> planetmaker: was it not a test-game? :p 19:18:10 <planetmaker> dev server implies test game. Kind of :-) 19:18:44 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0f817.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: bis dann] 19:18:55 <Rubidium> Alberth: partly because you need at least an unpaused server for desyncs :) 19:19:10 <Alberth> :) 19:19:17 <planetmaker> Alberth, so it was really you playing there, right? :-) 19:19:31 * Alberth denies everything 19:19:32 <planetmaker> I wondered as I seem to remember that alberth there saying he was a newbie ;-) 19:19:43 <fonsinchen> well, I'm off 19:19:46 <Alberth> I am, never played a MP game 19:19:52 <planetmaker> :-) 19:19:59 <planetmaker> good night, fonsinchen 19:20:27 <Alberth> and your rules URL was vanished before I could memorize it 19:20:54 <planetmaker> it's a dev server. The typcial coop rules don't apply 19:21:05 <planetmaker> just the common sense multiplayer rules 19:21:13 <planetmaker> "don't be evil" basically ;-) 19:21:17 <Alberth> I guessed as much :) 19:21:58 <Alberth> next time I want to join a company with another player, and build some stuff together 19:22:16 <planetmaker> fonsinchen, did you download the savegames which you need? If the server continues to run, they might get overwritten after some time 19:22:45 <planetmaker> Alberth, that's in principle also possible on the dev server. At least that's what I do there, too :-) 19:22:50 <planetmaker> Building alone is boring ;-) 19:23:58 <Alberth> in that sense it was a bad game :( 19:25:18 <planetmaker> Well... :-) There are more coop-ish games around, even those which are not hardcore style #coop games 19:26:04 <Rubidium> planetmaker: I hope that you ran some logging, like when people connected and the commands that were executed so you can reproduce it :) 19:26:07 <planetmaker> My personal preference on our public server is a game like: one common ICE network and then small groups of people (or also single people) taking charge of a region 19:26:40 <planetmaker> Rubidium, it's an unpatched server... :-( 19:27:07 <PeterT> fonsinchen: No, I was not 19:27:23 <PeterT> I wasn't even in-game 19:27:28 <OwenS> planetmaker: That is also my favorite game mode 19:27:32 <PeterT> I was in the IRC chanenl though 19:27:42 <OwenS> planetmaker: Actually, that would be really interesting with cargodist 19:27:47 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab6e5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:28:06 <Alberth> planetmaker: let's try something like that when we encounter each other in a MP game 19:28:18 <planetmaker> sure. I'd love to! :-) 19:28:23 <planetmaker> About Easter? :-) 19:28:28 <OwenS> Alberth: Or join the #openttdcoop main server some time? :P 19:28:44 <planetmaker> ^ Sometimes we run that there. Then I play :-) 19:28:45 <Rubidium> planetmaker: -d desync<something> IIRC, readme tells 19:28:49 <OwenS> (BTW, when you run ProgSigs on there, turning misc and sl debugging up to 10 will be essential) 19:29:00 <OwenS> -ddesync10 19:29:20 <OwenS> (So, for progsigs, -dmisc10 -ddesync10 -dsl10) 19:29:40 <planetmaker> Rubidium, I'm actually quite sure it wasn't activated... but I didn't personally start the server 19:30:11 <Rubidium> OwenS: 9 is more than enough :) 19:30:28 <OwenS> Rubidium: No, progsigs actually spams some info at 10 19:30:38 <Rubidium> you added even more levels? 19:30:46 <OwenS> ...I think :p 19:31:04 <OwenS> Nope, 10 19:31:06 <OwenS> DEBUG(misc, 10, " Executing instruction %d, opcode %d", this->instruction->Id(), this->instruction->Opcode()); 19:32:13 <OwenS> I think debug.h says 10 is the "maximum" though 19:32:44 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 19:40:31 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 19:41:20 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 19:44:49 <George> Is it possible to make OTTD not to show reserved rail rtacks for trains? 19:45:07 <Alberth> disable the option? 19:45:09 <OwenS> George: its an option off by default 19:45:24 <George> disable the display 19:45:49 <George> It is on for me and I can't find where to make it off 19:46:09 <Eddi|zuHause> in interface section of advanced settings, probably 19:46:48 <George> Eddi|zuHause: But where exactly? I've looked there alredy, but did not find 19:47:26 <George> found 19:47:31 <PeterT> A wiki search brings me to http://wiki.openttd.org/Advanced_Settings/Interface 19:47:36 <George> It's the 8-th line 19:48:36 <George> Thank you, missed it from the first look 19:48:37 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:48:58 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-154-57.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:50:16 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-113-232.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:52:55 *** nfc [~nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:53:41 <Ammler> Alberth: your mine is gone :-) 19:54:02 <Ammler> ah, transfer 19:55:31 <Alberth> probably yes, have been digging diamonds since the 30's :) 19:56:02 <Ammler> no transfer orders is quite confusing.. 19:56:19 <Alberth> yes, that is one of the flaws imho 19:56:43 <Alberth> being a cargo-dist game, it should do that stuff by itself, I think 19:58:30 <Ammler> it does? 19:58:44 <Ammler> you mean, it shouldn't? 19:59:15 <Alberth> it does not afaik 19:59:34 <Ammler> I desynced, else I would check :-) 20:02:02 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 20:06:15 *** Alberth1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:06:15 *** Alberth is now known as Guest468 20:06:15 *** Alberth1 is now known as Alberth 20:06:37 <Ammler> Alberth: you don't need to transfer, so in your example I removed the transfer 20:07:09 <Ammler> now around half will be dropped to the bank at the rail station, the other half transfered for the town with the rvs 20:07:10 <Alberth> oh, just force unloading is enough? 20:07:17 *** Guest468 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:07:58 <Ammler> force unloading isn't needed, either 20:08:18 <Alberth> you built a bridge to the island? 20:08:36 <Ammler> oh, that wasn't you? 20:08:39 <Alberth> hmm, need to do more testing then 20:08:40 <Ammler> :-) 20:09:51 <Ammler> Alberth: http://imagebin.ca/view/oF2_UM.html 20:10:24 <Alberth> ha, the town came to the other side :) 20:10:51 <Ammler> this town has 3 banks 20:11:16 <Alberth> yeah, stupid. same with water towers I noticed. 20:11:22 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:48 <planetmaker> it keeps a cool head over all the money ;-) 20:13:05 <Ammler> such things are quite nice things of cargodist 20:14:00 <Ammler> but it should be a bit more manageable how much will get to the industry there, how much will be transfered 20:15:24 *** Adambean [CG1@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:23 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:25 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:04 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 20:21:14 <PeterT> is FS#3530 going to just sit and idle or is anyone going to do anything about it? 20:21:45 *** ajmiles2 [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:24:03 <Alberth> euhm, does flyspray have such settings at all? 20:24:11 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:24:13 <Alberth> ie are you not confused with tt-forumsn? 20:24:19 <Alberth> -n 20:25:12 <planetmaker> Alberth, it does. I get the same error 20:25:26 <PeterT> Alberth: Obviously, why else would that task be there? 20:25:38 <Alberth> ah, just found them :) 20:26:04 <planetmaker> not that I looked at that page more than twice before, I think ;-) 20:28:22 *** Zephyris [~Zephyris@cpc1-oxfd18-2-0-cust689.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:28:30 <Alberth> well, given that it is 3 months old, I guess it will not get fixed soon 20:29:08 <SmatZ__> is that openttd bug at all? 20:29:17 <Alberth> it's a FS bug 20:29:26 <PeterT> Most of them are... 20:29:30 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:00 * Alberth thinks most bugs in FS are about openttd, not about FS 20:30:11 <planetmaker> :-) 20:30:15 <PeterT> hehe 20:30:18 <planetmaker> It depends on the ?proj= 20:31:21 <planetmaker> :-D 20:31:33 <planetmaker> Flyspray still has the category "Webtranslator 2" 20:31:57 <planetmaker> rather project 20:31:59 <Alberth> we also lost the publication of FS changes in one of the IRC channels a time ago. I once asked about that, and got as answer that support for that was not available in the newer FS version. I think TB doesn't fancy digging around in the FS code too much. 20:32:24 <PeterT> that would be neat 20:32:25 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:32:26 <PeterT> #openttd.bugs 20:32:35 <planetmaker> .notice 20:32:50 <Alberth> (at least, I think it is TB that set it up, but I am not sure about that) 20:33:06 <Alberth> PeterT: we had that 20:33:08 <planetmaker> I recall Rb messing around with it... but who knows :-) 20:33:47 <PeterT> andythenorth: Nice HEQS trams 20:42:20 <Rubidium> planetmaker: messing with what? 20:42:29 <planetmaker> flyspray 20:42:53 <planetmaker> the statement was: you know it better than TB 20:42:54 <Rubidium> oh, I rather not 20:43:04 <planetmaker> and no one wants to do it, yes :-) 20:43:17 *** Alberth1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:43:17 *** Alberth is now known as Guest473 20:43:17 *** Alberth1 is now known as Alberth 20:44:44 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 20:49:32 *** Guest473 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:51:24 *** PeterT_ [~Peter@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Goodbye] 20:51:42 *** lewymati [~lewymati@89.230.159.206] has joined #openttd 20:54:57 *** Zephyris [~Zephyris@cpc1-oxfd18-2-0-cust689.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:55:11 *** Zephyris [~Zephyris@cpc1-oxfd18-2-0-cust689.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:55:45 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [] 20:56:50 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdd3e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:00 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 21:13:22 *** Alberth is now known as Guest476 21:16:13 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s5591a1ba.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.2/20100316074819]] 21:18:22 *** Guest476 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:36 *** Adambean [CG1@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:21:01 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1ec000-127.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 21:21:58 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-18-119.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22:34 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-18-119.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:24:13 *** Adambean [CG1@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 21:27:04 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.205.150] has joined #openttd 21:27:29 *** noeN [~Neon@dslb-088-069-239-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Something strange must have happened...] 21:43:14 *** Zephyris_ [~Zephyris@89.193.228.110] has joined #openttd 21:43:20 *** Zephyris_ [~Zephyris@89.193.228.110] has quit [] 21:48:12 *** Zephyris [~Zephyris@cpc1-oxfd18-2-0-cust689.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:51:52 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:53:04 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab6e5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:55:14 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:40 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:03:49 <Terkhen> good night 22:03:54 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@224.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 22:07:24 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 22:09:10 *** Tennel [~Tennel@port-ip-213-211-212-60.reverse.mdcc-fun.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.1.1] 22:25:29 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@179.67.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:27:26 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 22:31:39 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-33-24.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:36:59 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:00 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DA26B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... 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