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00:00:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm, i thought so... 00:00:37 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wow, wtf 00:00:44 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> mark's island is nuts 00:00:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, it is great :D 00:01:02 <PublicServer> <pugi> and he did that so quick... 00:01:45 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what's TL for the shinkansen? 00:01:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> tl 7 00:03:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> and atdt, now i understand your plan with southbound and northbound station :D 00:03:16 *** cifvts__ has joined #openttdcoop 00:03:21 <PublicServer> <pugi> way overkill :D 00:03:24 <PublicServer> <atdt> yup 00:03:29 <PublicServer> <atdt> but way awesome as well 00:03:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> ya 00:03:38 <PublicServer> <atdt> i'm going to try to get the island packed as possbile 00:05:37 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> only 5 stations? 00:05:38 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> fail 00:05:59 <PublicServer> <atdt> theres going to be another transfer mid line 00:06:41 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and your design needs some work, btw 00:07:36 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> huh 00:07:43 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oic 00:07:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> lol :D 00:07:53 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yer gonna put another big station 00:07:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> fail :P 00:07:57 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yes yes 00:07:58 <PublicServer> <atdt> yep 00:08:04 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but fine 00:08:10 *** cifvts_ has quit IRC 00:08:15 <PublicServer> <atdt> its really not that big of a station 00:08:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is totally overkill what he is planning to do :D 00:08:35 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the southbound transfer? 00:08:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> no, another one 00:09:13 <PublicServer> <atdt> its just going to be a small secondary transfer 00:09:24 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> gonna add more stations N of haraue? 00:09:25 <PublicServer> <atdt> to 00:09:39 <PublicServer> <atdt> yeah for kawaoka 00:09:43 <PublicServer> <atdt> but not near the ML 00:09:52 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> more like near the coal mine 00:10:10 <PublicServer> <atdt> ah yes 00:10:22 <PublicServer> <atdt> thats going to be the outer line 00:11:15 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> who's doing the aohara area? 00:11:19 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> pm? 00:12:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, pm 00:12:11 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> how about uetani? 00:16:00 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no answer, eh 00:16:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> sorry, didn't read :D 00:16:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> damalix began in that area 00:16:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> more north 00:17:05 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> im talking about the island uetani is on 00:17:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes, i know 00:17:25 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> hmm 00:17:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> do you notice the signs "border"? :P 00:17:35 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> hmm 00:17:36 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nvm 00:17:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess you can start building there 00:17:46 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i assume that area's free for building, then 00:17:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah 00:18:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> and damalix wrote "You can continue" 00:18:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> -can 00:19:22 <Chris_Booth> !password 00:19:22 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: salute 00:19:37 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 00:21:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> hmm, i'd want to add some empty trains to driver all over the map :D 00:21:39 <PublicServer> <atdt> fight the urge 00:21:49 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> row row fight the powa! 00:21:57 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 00:22:19 <PeterT> !revision 00:22:19 <PublicServer> PeterT: Game version is r17847 00:23:58 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 00:24:01 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> man, this station is set up weird 00:24:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> uh, yeah... 00:24:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> the middle one can't leave :D 00:24:37 <PublicServer> <atdt> hmm? 00:24:37 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea it can 00:24:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah, bridge in the way 00:24:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> sorry 00:24:46 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> if yer talking about damalix's 00:24:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 00:25:06 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's got 2 possible entrances for the middle 00:25:09 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> O.o 00:25:12 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> or two exits 00:25:16 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wat 00:25:17 <PublicServer> <atdt> ooh trippy 00:29:04 <PeterT> What revision was PSG 163 played with? 00:29:47 <pugi> 17814 00:29:51 <PeterT> thanks 00:29:58 <pugi> not 100% sure :D 00:30:03 <pugi> just 90% :P 00:31:06 <PeterT> :p thanks 00:31:19 <Kupuham> It changed a couple of times, but, before 17847 the previous version I have here is 17814, so that should work 00:31:25 <PeterT> ok 00:31:33 <PeterT> No, it's just that I'm writing the archive 00:31:52 <KenjiE20> it was saved with the current revision 00:31:56 <pugi> ah yes 00:32:01 <pugi> i forgot 00:32:03 <KenjiE20> so putting the old would probably be pointledd 00:32:04 <PeterT> but what was it played with? 00:32:05 <KenjiE20> less* 00:32:06 <PeterT> ok 00:32:10 <pugi> but when i first joined it was 17814 :D 00:32:17 <Chris_Booth> r17847 00:32:23 <pugi> yeah 00:32:25 <KenjiE20> since you wouldn't be able to open it 00:32:26 <Chris_Booth> PeterT: thats what is finished on 00:32:30 <PeterT> Oh! I understand, you put the revision number for people to know what revision to get to open it w/ 00:32:37 <Chris_Booth> yes 00:32:40 <KenjiE20> du'uh 00:32:52 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: be nice now 00:32:57 <PeterT> I thought it was a "good-to-know" fact 00:32:58 <Chris_Booth> PeterT: is only trying to help 00:33:01 <KenjiE20> that was nice 00:33:18 <PeterT> No, no. It's ok. It was my dumb fault I didn't realize until now. 00:33:26 <KenjiE20> I could've been much cruder :P 00:33:28 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> call me the master compactor :-P 00:33:44 <KenjiE20> Raz, that's Mark 00:33:46 <PublicServer> * Razaekel squeezes the station into an area about 7 tiles shorter 00:33:57 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i challenge him for his title 00:34:03 <KenjiE20> what with his tiny SLHs and tarballing mainlines 00:35:28 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> alright 00:35:31 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> shrank it by 4 tiles 00:35:55 <PeterT> KenjiE20: do you use MSYS? 00:35:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> but you added those three new tunnel exits 00:35:58 <PeterT> for compiling? 00:35:58 <KenjiE20> no 00:36:03 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> entrances 00:36:03 <PeterT> MSVC? 00:36:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm, yeah ^ 00:36:09 <PeterT> do you compile at all? 00:36:12 <KenjiE20> gcc 00:36:22 <PeterT> I didn't see a wiki for that... 00:36:35 <KenjiE20> no, I don't expect you would 00:36:45 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> CL2 allows full speed? 00:36:51 <Chris_Booth> yes 00:36:52 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker has joined company #1 00:36:59 <Chris_Booth> its maglev with tilt bonus 00:37:00 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Awesome 00:37:12 <KenjiE20> @magclspd 2 00:37:12 <Webster> Maglev speed with CL of 2 is; 220 km/h or 137.5 mph 00:37:16 <PeterT> Is it harder to set up? 00:37:18 <KenjiE20> @calc 220*1.2 00:37:18 <Webster> KenjiE20: 264 00:37:20 <Chris_Booth> does anyone actualy compile there own versions? 00:37:32 <Chris_Booth> when its so realily avilable to download? 00:37:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> will platform 2+4 be able to leave if there is a train on platform 3? 00:37:41 <PeterT> no 00:37:53 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yes 00:37:55 <PeterT> I use auto update 00:38:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> hmm 00:38:02 <PeterT> but I compile trunk on a daily basis 00:38:06 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 2 and 4 go across the bridge 00:38:13 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> platform 3 goes into the tunnel 00:38:18 <Zarenor> 264 isn't quite 300.. but whatever, souds good 00:38:18 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes, but it is all connected without tunnels 00:38:37 <Chris_Booth> there is a kinda PBS built into terminus style stations 00:38:53 <pugi> it works with cl 2 and 300 00:38:55 <pugi> we tested it 00:39:00 <Zarenor> I assumed you had 00:39:59 <Chris_Booth> night all 00:40:03 <PeterT> night 00:40:03 <KenjiE20> I'm gonna rewrite that command set anyway 00:40:06 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 00:40:25 *** Polygon has quit IRC 00:40:51 <KenjiE20> and shove it all into one command 'clcalc' 00:42:39 <Zarenor> Alright 00:43:19 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> either way, CL2 for TL7 is great, tha allows very small compact things 00:43:34 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Whats accel/decel like? 00:44:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> dunno, the others don't want to let some trains on the loose currently :( 00:44:40 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Do we have more than one sbahn complete? 00:44:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> i didn't say they have to transport anything... just drive without loading 00:45:03 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Not region, but just single sbahn loop? 00:45:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> mark's isle 00:45:17 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> right, but that generates costs with out revenue 00:45:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> south-east 00:45:32 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> shoot 00:45:42 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that's even partially in action 00:45:54 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> But we can't start that w/o his permission 00:46:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> and he built that so fast... 00:46:16 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> He builds quickly 00:47:25 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Hm.. then I wonder how long a train would take a CL1... 00:47:59 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> My peninsula is still mine? 00:48:04 <pugi> @magclspd 1 00:48:05 <Webster> Maglev speed with CL of 1 is; 174 km/h or 108.75 mph 00:48:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 00:48:33 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that makes me happy.. I'll come up with something creative 00:49:15 <Zarenor> Right, that applies if the TL is longer than the curve... but with the turn bonus... 00:49:26 <Zarenor> I'll have to test it on my peninsula prior to building 00:49:31 <pugi> :D 00:49:33 <Zarenor> I may have a creative Idea 00:49:59 <Zarenor> or several.. CL1 allows very interesting, usually coop-nonstandard constructions 00:50:11 <Zarenor> non-standard because CL 1 is usually VERY bad 00:53:08 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what kind of train for the ICE? 00:53:14 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> N700 00:53:17 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> the newest one\ 00:53:58 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i dont see it 00:54:07 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> newest is KIHA E200 00:54:12 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Maglev? 00:54:17 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no 00:54:18 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> erail 00:54:19 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> not avail trains 00:54:26 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ICE is maglev 00:54:29 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> er 00:54:34 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> for the erail trains 00:54:38 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> whatever theyre called 00:54:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> you choose 00:54:44 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and newest maglev.. or in this case shikansen 00:54:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> your region 00:54:53 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> sbahn, whatever you design 00:55:16 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> okedoke 00:55:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> 210 00:55:59 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> TL4 at CL1= 210 00:56:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> tl doesn't matter 00:56:21 <Razaekel> @cl 109 00:56:22 <Webster> Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed. 00:56:27 <Razaekel> >.< 00:56:32 <Razaekel> @clspd 109 00:56:45 <Razaekel> @clspd 2 00:56:52 <Razaekel> what's the damn command 00:56:53 <Razaekel> >.< 00:57:03 <Zarenor> @erclspd 2 00:57:04 <pugi> @maglevcl 00:57:05 <Zarenor> idk 00:57:18 <pugi> @maglevcl 100 00:57:19 <Zarenor> magclspd for maglev 00:57:28 <pugi> okay 00:57:29 <pugi> .P 00:57:39 <KenjiE20> @clcalc 00:57:39 <Webster> <train/mono/mag>cl <speed km/h> returns minimum CL for full speed transit (assuming TL > CL returned else use TL) (e.g. traincl 110 returns '2') -- <train/mono/mag>clspd <CL> returns the maxspeed a CL can manage (e.g. trainclspd 2 returns '110km/h or 68.75mph') 00:57:45 <pugi> !help 00:57:45 <PublicServer> pugi: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 00:57:47 <KenjiE20> ^ 00:57:47 <pugi> ^^ 00:57:51 <Razaekel> @traincl 109 00:57:51 <Webster> CL 1.954 required for rail at speed 109km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 00:57:58 <Razaekel> ok 00:58:04 <Razaekel> @traincl 130 00:58:04 <Webster> CL 2.95 required for rail at speed 130km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 00:58:13 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> TL usually does.... but apparently whatwith the tilting... 00:58:56 <PeterT> Check it out: http://openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_161_-_170#gameid_163 00:58:58 <pugi> |maglev 210 00:59:01 <pugi> @maglev 210 00:59:05 <pugi> @maglevcl 210 00:59:09 <pugi> ... 00:59:14 <pugi> @magcl 210 00:59:14 <Webster> CL 1.775 required for maglev at speed 210km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 01:01:14 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Right, no TF limits right, strictly per-region? 01:01:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> afaik only ml is given per region 01:02:09 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Okay... 01:02:35 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> so is this entire region I have my peninsula in unclaimed, and whats the deal with that? 01:03:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> you have to use the whole region to build :D 01:03:21 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Okay 01:03:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> dunno, just do anything 01:03:31 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Well, I'll use peninsula as a testbed 01:03:53 <PublicServer> <pugi> i think i'm gonna connect coal... :D 01:04:33 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm thinking independent exttensible sbahns, with a transfer micronetwork 01:04:44 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> from sbahn->xfer->ICE 01:04:53 <PublicServer> <pugi> :) 01:05:08 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> But the jury is still out on that 01:12:36 <PeterT> KenjiE20: do you like the archive i made? 01:13:04 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i wonder if 1 track is really gonna be enough 01:13:05 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> hmm 01:15:05 <PublicServer> <atdt> my god this is going to be crazy 01:15:14 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop 01:15:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20|LT 01:15:26 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:42:34 <atdt_> !players 01:42:36 <PublicServer> atdt_: Client 72 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 01:42:36 <PublicServer> atdt_: Client 73 (Orange) is Razaekel, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 01:42:36 <PublicServer> atdt_: Client 37 (Orange) is ZarenorDarkstalker, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 01:42:36 <PublicServer> atdt_: Client 57 (Orange) is pugi, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 01:42:36 <PublicServer> atdt_: Client 61 (Orange) is atdt, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 01:42:59 <PublicServer> <atdt> very griddy 01:43:01 <PublicServer> <atdt> very griddy indeed 01:43:06 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what? 01:43:15 <PublicServer> <atdt> your peninsula 01:43:18 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> heh 01:44:14 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> damn.. nice raz, good luck 01:44:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> i'm going to bed, good night :) 01:44:38 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nite 01:44:44 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Looks like it may work.. SRNW-esque? 01:45:22 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 01:45:22 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea 01:45:34 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i was thinking SRO, but 01:45:35 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I did something similar and much less well executed 01:45:38 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> SRO? 01:45:43 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> orders? 01:45:44 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ah 01:45:45 <PublicServer> <atdt> lol its gonna be interesting growing okagami... 01:45:45 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> Self-Regulating orders 01:46:01 *** pugi has quit IRC 01:46:06 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Either way.. I could think of a conditional that may work 01:46:25 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> for my area? 01:46:28 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> But I'll not butt in unless you ask, so I look forward to seeing how it turns out 01:46:33 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no, go ahead 01:46:38 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Okay 01:46:41 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> What I'd try 01:46:44 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> is use waypoints 01:46:53 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and assign each to a row 01:47:05 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> for himesaki halt IDK 01:47:20 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> unload all at station 01:47:23 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and maybe... 01:47:28 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> an exit waypoint for each row 01:47:41 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> hmm 01:47:48 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and I'm just thinking, I havent' tested conditionals to know if it would work 01:47:50 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so, seperate track for exit? 01:47:51 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but 01:48:01 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> no, justw ait for description 01:48:01 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so they have to go through a station to get out? 01:48:05 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ok 01:48:11 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> tpye faster, slowpoke! 01:48:12 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-P 01:48:31 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and if they bypass all stations, I;e if they have less than 10% load 01:48:47 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> or whatever you can figure for empty or nearly so 01:49:09 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> then they don't skip the order for going to your overflow that you don't have yet 01:49:12 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there is a 0% loaded option 01:49:34 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> if they have some people, then they go to the xfer station and skip the bypass 01:49:39 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> err, overflow 01:49:45 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> if that makes sense? 01:49:58 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> hmm 01:50:03 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so let me see 01:50:10 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> go to entrance waypoint 01:50:15 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Let me make an example train, no on your nw 01:50:16 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> go to exit waypoint 01:50:17 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> right 01:50:26 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> if cargo = 0%, skip drop 01:50:40 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> if cargo =0, go to bypass 01:50:41 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> go to next entrance waypoint 01:50:52 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> if cargo > 0%, goto drop 01:50:54 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> you could try that 01:50:59 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> go back to entrance wp 01:51:05 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> exactly 01:51:14 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> gonna need a bypass 01:51:16 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> you could make them service rows sequentially 01:51:23 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> or not 01:51:32 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> bypass may be easy, timer may not 01:54:03 <PublicServer> <atdt> ok, the island of OKAYAMA is gonna have to wait till tomorrow 01:54:07 <PublicServer> <atdt> i'm tiiiired 01:54:38 <PublicServer> <atdt> if anyone wants to take a look and tell me where i fu**ed up, please do 01:57:56 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Let me know if it works out, I'm just grabbing at straws here 01:58:13 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i'm rpobably gonna have to rebuild it to make it work properly 01:58:18 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but we'll see 01:58:27 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> then see if you can get an SRO setup that works 01:58:40 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> whatever you want, tis your peninsula 01:59:10 <Razaekel> @traincl 140 01:59:10 <Webster> CL 3.46 required for rail at speed 140km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 02:01:43 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Hmmm 02:02:01 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> this could be a very interesting.... Sbahn-like-setup on this peninsula 02:02:23 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> where? 02:02:34 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm trying to think of something interesting.. I want longlength sbahn since I can do that with the shikansen 02:02:40 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Zarenor's Peninsula 02:02:49 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and yes, i know evil TF is evil 02:03:15 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I might even go TL 7+ 02:03:17 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> wide enough 02:03:30 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm thinking single station-per-row 02:03:38 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> with two linear bays 02:04:05 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nice tf thee 02:04:07 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there 02:04:09 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-P 02:04:28 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> innit? 02:04:38 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> See the idea there 02:04:48 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm trying to think fof how spaced to make stations 02:05:02 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and it may or may not have SRNW0esque elements 02:05:13 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *-esque 02:06:01 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> orders are done 02:06:34 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lets see how it works 02:06:35 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> okay 02:06:38 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I see 02:06:58 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ew 02:07:03 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not going to the station 02:07:11 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> argh 02:07:23 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> non-stop prevents it 02:07:47 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> cant remove nonstop from it 02:07:57 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hm 02:08:03 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that needs to be fixed then 02:08:11 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea 02:08:17 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> because for any SRNW non nonstop it required 02:08:20 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *is 02:08:25 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i can do it by disabling the non-stop by default in advanced options 02:09:19 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> much glitch 02:10:41 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I may have decided.. I think I'm going to use paralell two-row stations, TL 12... 02:11:03 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but that may run into complications 02:11:07 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hm 02:11:54 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> orders are fixed 02:12:11 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> cool 02:13:12 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nope 02:13:17 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ugh 02:13:17 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hm 02:13:26 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that's annoying.. and troublesome 02:13:27 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the only other option is to do each station individually 02:14:10 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that's a pain.. but I'm actually considering it 02:14:17 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the reason it works for regular SRNW is because you HAVE to go through a station to get out 02:14:42 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> right, but with multiple rows... 02:14:54 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> err, for multiple rows... 02:15:26 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> aghagaga 02:17:50 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so like this 02:18:03 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no way out except by station 02:18:19 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Okay 02:19:31 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that works 02:21:50 *** PeterT has quit IRC 02:25:18 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> RIght, I have a running Sbahn 02:25:22 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nice 02:25:23 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> barely, but it does run 02:25:28 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> single station 02:25:41 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but this is a testbed, so I'll build more as it grows, as needed 02:26:13 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> had several hundred pax already 02:26:35 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> time to try and get the xfer network up and running 02:27:58 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm thinking TL 5 xfer nw 02:30:11 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> soon as you get pax running, we can run some circitous ICE if the connections are complete 02:30:29 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there's pax waiting 02:30:43 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Okay.. I'm working on my xfer the the ICE station I have built 02:31:24 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> first xfer will be crap, and much improbved as time goes on is my plan.. at first it's just running from this testbed to the only ICE station I currently have 02:34:50 <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Did a plane crash? 02:34:56 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> eh? 02:34:57 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> no idea 02:35:00 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> why? 02:35:08 <PublicServer> <Kupuham> There where 8 02:40:13 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> damn komachi 02:40:28 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> they sick of you yet raz? 02:40:39 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> probably got sick a long time ago 02:40:47 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ah 02:41:37 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ha, appaling rating, and no pax decay because they're all en-route 02:41:55 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh well 02:42:39 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> xfernetwork has one train running 02:42:44 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> as test 02:44:00 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 02:44:03 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Hey thrax 02:44:07 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hiya 02:44:15 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> just peeking my head in for now 02:44:20 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> mmind helping me and me bouncing ideas off of you for you to tell me they won't work? :D 02:44:23 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ah 02:44:25 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> okay 02:44:44 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> whatcha got? 02:44:48 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> do I need to be in TS? 02:44:53 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Working on a multi-network region 02:44:59 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'll be there shortly if you can be 02:55:14 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> where's the main ICE train? 02:55:20 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> none ran yet 02:55:41 <Zarenor> !unnels 12 26 02:55:45 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> kk 02:56:05 <Zarenor> !tnnels 12 26 02:56:18 <Zarenor> !tunnels 12 26 02:56:18 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 26. 02:56:27 <Zarenor> !tunnels 12 25 02:56:27 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 25. 02:56:30 <Zarenor> !tunnels 12 24 02:56:30 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 24. 02:56:44 <Zarenor> !tunnels 12 23 02:56:44 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 23. 02:56:52 <Thraxian> !tunnels 3 6 02:56:52 <PublicServer> Thraxian: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 6. 02:56:57 <Thraxian> !tunnels 3 8 02:56:57 <PublicServer> Thraxian: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 8. 02:57:11 <Zarenor> !tunnels 5 10 02:57:11 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 10. 02:57:18 <Zarenor> !tunnels 5 12 02:57:18 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 12. 02:57:21 <Zarenor> !tunnels 5 11 02:57:21 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 11. 02:58:40 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 03:02:35 *** MeisterMarkus has quit IRC 03:32:42 <PublicServer> *** atdt has left the game (leaving) 03:43:08 <Zarenor> !password 03:43:08 <PublicServer> Zarenor: dearer 03:43:41 <Thraxian> !grf 03:43:41 <PublicServer> Thraxian: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3) 03:45:36 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea it is 03:45:40 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> cool, thanks 03:59:00 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (connection lost) 03:59:15 *** Thraxian has left #openttdcoop 04:03:05 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker has left the game (leaving) 04:03:09 <Razaekel> !players 04:03:11 <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 72 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 04:03:11 <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 73 (Orange) is Razaekel, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 04:08:24 <Zarenor> I'll brb 04:08:52 <Zarenor> Troubleshooting another OTTD install, and making sure I'm telling this person the right buttons to click 04:09:45 <Zarenor> !password 04:09:46 <PublicServer> Zarenor: eerier 04:10:22 <PublicServer> *** NoctisLucisCaelum joined the game 04:10:32 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker joined the game 04:29:06 <Razaekel> !players 04:29:08 <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 72 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 04:29:08 <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 73 (Orange) is Razaekel, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 04:29:08 <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 79 (Orange) is NoctisLucisCaelum, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 04:29:08 <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 81 (Orange) is ZarenorDarkstalker, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 04:29:15 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 04:37:06 <PublicServer> *** Kupuham has joined spectators 04:59:24 <PublicServer> *** NoctisLucisCaelum has left the game (connection lost) 04:59:25 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 04:59:50 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker has left the game (leaving) 05:03:14 <PublicServer> *** Kupuham has left the game (leaving) 05:03:29 *** Kupuham has quit IRC 06:20:54 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 06:20:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 06:46:57 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 06:57:36 *** FiCE has joined #openttdcoop 07:04:32 <pugi> !players 07:04:33 <PublicServer> pugi: There are currently no clients connected to the server 07:12:53 *** ZarenorDarkstalker has joined #openttdcoop 07:12:53 *** Zarenor is now known as Guest468 07:12:54 *** ZarenorDarkstalker is now known as Zarenor 07:13:24 *** Zarenor is now known as Guest469 07:19:21 *** Guest468 has quit IRC 07:25:07 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 07:27:58 <pugi> !passwor 07:27:59 <pugi> !password 07:28:00 <PublicServer> pugi: daunts 07:28:29 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 07:43:05 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 07:43:22 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 07:46:04 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 07:46:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 08:06:27 *** Polygon has quit IRC 08:10:08 *** Nickman_87 has joined #openttdcoop 08:17:48 *** FrancoBegbie has joined #openttdcoop 08:23:56 <pugi> hi :) 08:31:03 <planetmaker> hi 08:31:09 <planetmaker> but we all still sleep :-P 08:32:44 <pugi> amazing how you can be chatting while being asleep :P 08:33:54 <planetmaker> you never talk while asleep? ;-) 08:34:12 <pugi> talk... yes 08:34:22 <pugi> but typing on the pc... :D 08:39:51 <planetmaker> heard of speach recognition? ;-) 08:42:38 <pugi> :D 08:46:40 <pugi> i need to get to university 08:46:42 <pugi> in 5 minutes 08:46:43 <pugi> :/ 08:46:54 <pugi> but maybe i can play some ottd from there :D 08:51:08 <pugi> got to go, see you guys :D 08:51:24 *** pugi has quit IRC 08:57:20 *** ODM has quit IRC 09:04:18 *** Fates has joined #openttdcoop 09:27:25 *** TrainzStoffe has joined #openttdcoop 09:28:17 *** spuuukie has joined #openttdcoop 09:29:00 *** FrancoBegbie has left #openttdcoop 09:34:53 *** Stoffe has quit IRC 09:34:53 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 09:39:18 <Nickman_87> !players 09:39:20 <PublicServer> Nickman_87: There are currently no clients connected to the server 09:43:36 <Nickman_87> nobody alive? 09:43:37 <Nickman_87> !password 09:43:38 <PublicServer> Nickman_87: hushed 09:43:59 <PublicServer> *** Nickman joined the game 10:00:23 *** jonde has joined #openttdcoop 10:00:57 <jonde> !password 10:00:57 <PublicServer> jonde: kneads 10:01:04 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 10:01:05 <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game 10:20:41 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has joined spectators 10:20:42 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:40:59 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 10:41:05 <pugi> hi :D 10:41:13 <pugi> !win32 10:41:17 <pugi> !dlwin 10:41:19 <pugi> !dlwin32 10:41:22 <pugi> !win 10:41:23 <pugi> hmm 10:41:50 <pugi> !download 10:41:50 <PublicServer> pugi: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 10:41:54 <pugi> !download win32 10:41:55 <PublicServer> pugi: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17847/openttd-trunk-r17847-windows-win32.zip 10:45:25 *** FrancoBegbie has joined #openttdcoop 10:46:06 <PublicServer> <Nickman> hi? :) 10:49:55 *** pugi has quit IRC 11:01:22 <PublicServer> *** Nickman has left the game (leaving) 11:03:36 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 11:10:29 <pugi> !players 11:10:31 <PublicServer> pugi: Client 86 is jondisti, a spectator 11:11:42 *** pugi_ has joined #openttdcoop 11:11:42 *** pugi has quit IRC 11:11:44 <pugi_> !password 11:11:44 <PublicServer> pugi_: jumper 11:12:01 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 11:12:14 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (connection lost) 11:15:01 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 11:15:18 <pugi> i hate my laptop wlan :( 11:18:26 *** TrainzStoffe has joined #openttdcoop 11:19:49 *** pugi_ has quit IRC 11:21:57 <pugi> hi stoffe 11:25:18 *** Stoffe has quit IRC 11:25:18 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 11:25:51 <pugi> stoffe, are you the one who made mods for sw kotor? 11:26:22 <pugi> !password 11:26:22 <PublicServer> pugi: rooked 11:26:35 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 11:26:54 <PublicServer> *** pugi has joined spectators 11:33:53 *** TrainzStoffe has joined #openttdcoop 11:39:33 *** Stoffe has quit IRC 11:39:33 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 11:40:31 *** TrainzStoffe has joined #openttdcoop 11:41:45 *** [1]Blue has joined #openttdcoop 11:47:45 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 11:47:58 *** Stoffe has quit IRC 11:48:40 *** Stoffe has joined #openttdcoop 11:52:11 <[1]Blue> @ grf 11:52:13 *** TrainzStoffe has quit IRC 11:52:28 <[1]Blue> @newgrf 11:52:31 <hylje> @grf 11:52:34 <[1]Blue> @grf 11:52:43 <[1]Blue> ... not working 11:52:56 <[1]Blue> i got a newgrf mismatch when trying to connect to the PSG... 11:53:03 <hylje> check bananas 11:53:03 <[1]Blue> any ideas on what to do? 11:53:16 <hylje> aka online content 11:53:19 <[1]Blue> yeah, but ho do i know which newgrf to download from tthere? 11:53:30 <[1]Blue> already have all ingame online content 11:55:00 <pugi> uhm... 11:55:10 <pugi> i thought you can download the missing files ingame 11:56:40 <[1]Blue> got all of them :S 11:56:43 <pugi> hmm 11:56:46 <pugi> weird 11:56:46 <Chris_Booth> !grf 11:56:47 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3) 11:56:52 <pugi> do you have 7.3? 11:56:55 <Chris_Booth> ^try that^ 11:57:01 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:57:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:57:04 <Chris_Booth> does it say what GRF you are missing? 11:57:09 <pugi> hi chris, hi kenji :D 11:57:16 <[1]Blue> got the ottdcoop pack as well 11:57:22 <[1]Blue> nope, doesn't say 11:57:34 <Chris_Booth> hello pugi 11:57:53 <Chris_Booth> what nightly you using? 11:57:57 <[1]Blue> it says 'Could not connect due to NewGRF mismatch.' 11:58:05 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 11:58:05 <[1]Blue> r17847 11:58:07 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart 11:58:08 <[1]Blue> just updated 11:59:03 <Chris_Booth> !password 11:59:03 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: lewder 11:59:15 <[1]Blue> damn... last game i had no probs whatsoever 11:59:35 <pugi> hm :/ 11:59:42 * KenjiE20 suggests re-reading QS 11:59:56 <pugi> i was in last game too 12:00:02 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 12:00:14 <pugi> and just had to download the new japanese things via ingame download 12:00:18 <[1]Blue> maybe someone could take a screenshot of the currently used grf list... i can check which ines im missing 12:00:41 <KenjiE20> Blue read quickstart, your answers there 12:01:23 <[1]Blue> damn i did that...no answers... the game doesn't tell me which grfs are causing the probs or which ones are missing 12:01:34 <KenjiE20> how would quickstart know that? 12:01:46 <KenjiE20> it tells you how to fix it though 12:01:46 <[1]Blue> ...the game ... 12:02:04 <[1]Blue> qs tells me to download missing grfs from bananas 12:02:12 <[1]Blue> i dont know whats mising 12:02:30 <KenjiE20> take a closer look 12:02:35 <[1]Blue> at qs? 12:02:37 <Chris_Booth> http://openttdcoop.org/wiki/File:NEWGRF.jpg 12:02:44 <Chris_Booth> that is the current GRF list 12:02:57 <Chris_Booth> but if you have all bananas and GRF 7.3 12:03:11 <pugi> blue 12:03:12 <pugi> http://i36.tinypic.com/say14k.jpg 12:03:12 <[1]Blue> thnx, i'll go check it ... 12:03:13 <Chris_Booth> then you should have all the GRFs you need for any game 12:03:14 <pugi> ther 12:03:15 <pugi> e 12:03:40 <pugi> damn, chris was faster :P 12:03:42 <[1]Blue> thnx for the screenies guys :) 12:03:55 * Ammler points to BaNaNaS ;-) 12:03:58 <KenjiE20> seriously, look at quickstart, and the pretty picture 12:04:05 <pugi> but mine has better quality :P 12:04:34 <Chris_Booth> pugi: no it doesnt 12:04:47 <Chris_Booth> mine is 1440*900 12:04:53 <pugi> no, yours is jpg 12:04:53 <Chris_Booth> yours is much smaller than that 12:04:55 <pugi> mine is png 12:05:01 <KenjiE20> they're both jpeg, they both fail 12:05:03 <pugi> it is 1280x800 12:05:07 <pugi> what? 12:05:12 <pugi> i uploaded png... 12:05:17 <Ammler> [1]Blue:you don't need a screen from someone else, just check your own list :-P 12:05:25 <pugi> it still is png 12:05:37 <pugi> it just is called .jpg 12:06:03 <Ammler> all grfs are green/blue? 12:06:12 <pugi> yes 12:06:13 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 12:06:17 *** FrancoBegbie has left #openttdcoop 12:06:27 <pugi> and i don't know why i have a warning sign at japanese signals.. 12:06:37 <Chris_Booth> erveryone does 12:06:44 <Chris_Booth> its loaded in the wrong place 12:07:10 <pugi> okay 12:07:15 <pugi> and they look stupid :/ 12:07:18 <planetmaker> <[1]Blue> got all of them :S <-- check the online content from the join lobby of the multiplayer screen 12:07:19 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: please don't use the wiki for such crap 12:07:20 <pugi> can't we use normal ones? 12:07:33 <Ammler> didn't we tell you that already? 12:07:48 <Chris_Booth> but last time is wasnt coop related 12:07:53 <Ammler> pugi: but yours is better ;-) 12:07:55 <Chris_Booth> and this one was 12:08:03 <pugi> and it is german OS :D 12:08:11 <pugi> altough you can't tell 12:08:15 <Ammler> dunno, at least it doesn't spam the wiki 12:08:21 <pugi> i am currently in university listening to production stuff 12:08:56 <Chris_Booth> pugi: the PC your on doesnt have airo enbaled 12:08:57 <pugi> basics of manufacturing technology 12:08:59 <Chris_Booth> you should enbale it 12:09:06 <pugi> it is a laptop 12:09:14 <KenjiE20> why should he enable it? 12:09:17 <pugi> aero needs more cpu 12:09:20 <pugi> bad for battery 12:09:26 <Chris_Booth> aero looks so much cooler 12:09:49 <pugi> no :P 12:09:51 <Chris_Booth> why even have vista installed if you dont use its featureS? 12:09:51 <Ammler> both images don't help [1]Blue 12:10:01 <pugi> it came with pc 12:10:02 <pugi> :D 12:10:07 <pugi> i should install win 7 12:10:10 <KenjiE20> vista sucks regardless 12:10:14 <pugi> i have downloaded it via msdnaa 12:10:28 <pugi> but lacking motivation to install it :D 12:10:37 <planetmaker> http://www.openttd.org/en/server/105 <-- Chris_Booth that's the list of the things used. Always up2date and no need for uploads.... to a wiki 12:10:49 <Ammler> oh, japan scenario? 12:10:55 <planetmaker> yes :-) 12:10:57 <Chris_Booth> msndaa is great 12:11:03 <planetmaker> Japanese scenario = regional scenario ;-) 12:11:05 <planetmaker> I like that 12:11:16 <planetmaker> like psg 132 and psg 151 :-) 12:11:24 <KenjiE20> pugi; it's not enough to recommend upgrading from vista right away, but next time you need a fresh start go for it :) 12:11:57 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: could you please cleanup your screen from wiki... 12:11:59 <Chris_Booth> i am using suse VMed in windows 7 atm 12:12:04 <KenjiE20> 'scuse me a sec, while I reboot these drivers off 12:12:22 <Chris_Booth> Ammler: just delete it from the wiki? 12:12:50 <planetmaker> what do you understand under "cleanup"? 12:13:33 <Ammler> menno, this all is so familar, planetmaker, didn't we once have this annoying situation already? 12:13:44 <pugi> menno... 12:13:48 <pugi> another german fellow :D 12:13:58 <planetmaker> Ammler, sort-of yes :S 12:14:11 <KenjiE20> there we go 12:14:12 <planetmaker> pugi, you're wrong with your assumption ;-) 12:14:27 <pugi> i whois'd :P 12:14:50 <planetmaker> and whois he? :-) 12:15:10 <KenjiE20> just because he's connected to german oftc, doesn't make him German 12:15:27 <Ammler> @kban Chris_Booth come back if the wiki is cleanedup 12:15:27 *** Webster sets mode: +b *!~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk 12:15:28 *** Chris_Booth was kicked by Webster (come back if the wiki is cleanedup) 12:15:29 <KenjiE20> just like I'm not dutch 12:15:38 <pugi> :O 12:15:38 <KenjiE20> lol 12:15:51 <pugi> marcel gmür... could be german :P 12:15:58 <pugi> so i guessed :D 12:15:59 <KenjiE20> !users 12:15:59 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Community:Members 12:16:00 <planetmaker> *could* :-P 12:16:05 <KenjiE20> ^ that would be easier tbh 12:16:35 <Ammler> no, don't upload 12:16:35 <pugi> almost german :D 12:16:43 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 12:16:46 <pugi> but pm is :D 12:17:00 <planetmaker> maybe I only live there? ;-) 12:17:06 <pugi> and phazorx made me play ottd :D 12:17:15 <planetmaker> phazorx? Cool :-) 12:17:23 <Ammler> his image is gone 12:17:31 <Ammler> dunno, it that is the onlyone 12:18:00 <planetmaker> his image? 12:18:02 <pugi> phazorx plays dwarf fortress 12:18:07 <Ammler> it is just so annoying, because we already told him. 12:18:08 <pugi> and i met him in the channel 12:18:13 <KenjiE20> DF rocks 12:18:16 <planetmaker> ah... that image 12:18:22 <planetmaker> @unban Chriss_booth 12:18:27 <planetmaker> @unban Chris_booth 12:18:27 *** Webster sets mode: -b Chris_Booth!~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk 12:18:45 <Ammler> :-) 12:18:53 <Ammler> !users 12:18:53 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Community:Members 12:19:03 <KenjiE20> more annoying since we're in the middle of cleanup too :P 12:19:17 <pugi> what 12:19:23 <pugi> zarenor born 1993 :x 12:19:52 <planetmaker> yeah, he. Kids! ;-) 12:20:05 <planetmaker> Not like grown up kids at 'versity. 12:20:07 * pugi stalks everyone 12:20:43 <KenjiE20> #openttdcoop | <@KenjiE20> more annoying since we're in the middle of 12:20:49 <KenjiE20> . grr 12:20:52 <KenjiE20> grrrrr 12:20:54 <planetmaker> ? 12:20:58 <KenjiE20> stupid select 12:20:59 <planetmaker> grr! ;-) 12:21:01 <KenjiE20> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/scary.png 12:21:06 <KenjiE20> ^ relevant 12:21:19 <KenjiE20> also, rofl at xkcd's page 12:21:25 <Ammler> omg, I have around 1min lags :-) 12:21:38 <planetmaker> hehe :-) Yes, I lool quite a bit when I read that. It's quite a new one. 12:22:17 <planetmaker> pugi, and those '93 kids are also already 15... 12:22:20 <[1]Blue> okay ... i seem to be missing 'Japanese Train Set v2 beta8' and i can't find that release on bananas or grfcrawler :s 12:22:37 <[1]Blue> can anybody give a working url for that download? 12:22:48 <[1]Blue> ingame content seems to think my grf is up to date 12:22:51 <pugi> isn't it in grf 7.3? 12:22:51 <planetmaker> [1]Blue, as said: go to the MP join screen. Select there "download missing newgrfs" 12:22:55 <planetmaker> Not from the main screen. 12:22:57 * KenjiE20 points at the pic on quickstart.. again 12:23:10 <[1]Blue> @quickstart 12:23:13 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart 12:23:32 <KenjiE20> push those buttons, push the following relevant buttons, win bacongrf 12:23:43 <pugi> i though he already did that 12:23:52 *** TrainzStoffe has joined #openttdcoop 12:24:01 <KenjiE20> if he's still got mismatch, clearly not :) 12:24:11 <planetmaker> pugi, there's a difference between the content download from the title menu and the one when you're about to join a server. 12:24:33 <planetmaker> The latter may give you newgrfs which are not (anymore) available for general download, but which are required in order to join that server 12:24:47 <[1]Blue> !password 12:24:47 <PublicServer> [1]Blue: mattes 12:25:03 <PublicServer> *** Blue joined the game 12:25:12 <[1]Blue> so sorry KenjiE20 12:25:42 <[1]Blue> ottd couldn't find my missing grfs without going to the multiplayer screen first :s 12:25:46 <pugi> i found out about the download missing newgrfs without reading about it myself in 5 seconds... 12:25:52 <[1]Blue> didn't think that would make a difference 12:25:55 <pugi> when i first joined 12:26:03 <pugi> maybe blue is just stupid :D 12:26:10 <[1]Blue> ô) 12:26:18 <PublicServer> *** pugi has joined company #1 12:26:53 <planetmaker> <[1]Blue> ottd couldn't find my missing grfs without going to the multiplayer screen first :s <-- that's why it pays off to *read* and follow instructions to the point. 12:26:54 <KenjiE20> lol 12:29:20 <KenjiE20> I suppose I could clarify the bananas bit a little, but no one else seems to have had issues so.. 12:30:18 *** Stoffe has quit IRC 12:30:34 *** Stoffe has joined #openttdcoop 12:31:14 <planetmaker> I clarified it a bit 12:32:38 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 12:33:25 <[1]Blue> ok, i get it... i should've read it more thorough... 12:34:05 <[1]Blue> got another question, about the game itself 12:34:17 <pugi> yes 12:34:32 <[1]Blue> is it possible to demolish just one tile in a station without demolishing the entire station?? 12:34:39 <pugi> yes 12:34:43 <[1]Blue> :D 12:34:44 <[1]Blue> how? 12:34:47 <pugi> select build station 12:34:53 <pugi> then the bulldozer 12:35:04 <pugi> then you can convert a station tile to a normal track tile 12:35:08 <pugi> which you can remove 12:35:22 <pugi> maybe it can also be done in some other way i don't know :P 12:35:51 <KenjiE20> that's the way, and it's only been in trunk for what? 2 weeks 12:35:51 <[1]Blue> thanks a lot ... converting isn't even nessesary 12:36:09 <pugi> it is? 12:36:19 <pugi> i found out about it by trial and error :P 12:36:29 <[1]Blue> build station tool + bulldozer -> delete a single square :D 12:36:51 <pugi> no, that converts to rail... 12:36:52 <pugi> afaik 12:37:04 <[1]Blue> i just did it ... no converting 12:37:13 <Ammler> wouldn't it be possible to automatically open the content download page, if you try to join and fail because of the grfs? 12:37:13 <pugi> hmm 12:37:21 <Ammler> window* 12:37:28 <[1]Blue> at least ... in the latest stable release (0.7.3( 12:37:40 <KenjiE20> pm; tweaked your wording a little :) 12:37:52 <pugi> prof seems to have finished 12:37:56 <planetmaker> my words were surely perfect ;-) KenjiE20 ;-) 12:37:58 *** TrainzStoffe has quit IRC 12:37:59 <pugi> i'll be going now for... ~10 minutes 12:38:08 <KenjiE20> :D :D 12:38:16 *** pugi has quit IRC 12:39:05 <Ammler> (use ctrl for old behaviour) 12:39:49 <planetmaker> ah, that still works? Nice! 12:40:35 <KenjiE20> ctrl the magic key :) 12:42:42 <KenjiE20> hmm, is there a way to get the revision for a save via console? 12:45:24 *** TrainzStoffe has joined #openttdcoop 12:46:18 <KenjiE20> aha, gamelog, gives me revision number changes 12:51:30 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 12:51:41 <pugi> hi : 12:51:42 <pugi> :D 12:52:08 *** Stoffe has quit IRC 12:52:08 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 12:52:33 <pugi> !password 12:52:33 <PublicServer> pugi: ejects 12:52:51 *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk 12:52:57 *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk 12:53:11 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 12:53:15 *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk 12:53:38 <pugi> blue 12:53:48 <pugi> you had some questions, correct? 12:54:15 *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk 12:54:29 *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk 12:54:42 <pugi> ammler, why do you keep unbanning chris? 12:55:13 <KenjiE20> because he's algging 12:55:16 <KenjiE20> lagging* 12:55:31 *** Ammler has left #openttdcoop 12:55:39 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop 12:55:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammler 12:55:44 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 12:55:53 <pugi> welcome back chris and ammler :D 12:56:22 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has left the game (leaving) 12:56:46 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (connection lost) 12:57:01 *** pugi_ has joined #openttdcoop 12:59:20 <Chris_Booth> Stupid FAT32 4GB file limit 13:00:06 *** pugi__ has joined #openttdcoop 13:00:09 <pugi__> -.- 13:00:22 <KenjiE20> um. isn't that limit like 2.3Gb? 13:00:51 <[1]Blue> my wuestions are answered pugi ... but thnx anyway :) 13:01:07 <Chris_Booth> its less than 4.1GB so i had to reformat my USB flash thingy 13:01:09 <Ammler> why do you use it then? 13:01:20 <pugi__> i am getting so much disconnected :( 13:01:29 <Ammler> I guess, also windows has better FS 13:01:29 <Chris_Booth> as that what all USB flash drives come with as standard 13:01:45 <Chris_Booth> and i only just bought it 13:01:51 <Chris_Booth> and wanted to put the suse ISO on it 13:02:00 <Chris_Booth> but I needed to reformat 13:02:09 <Chris_Booth> why use such are rubish and old FS 13:02:24 <KenjiE20> so everything can read/write 13:02:33 <KenjiE20> NTFS is propriety 13:02:52 <KenjiE20> and obviously MS won't ship windows with ext2/3/4 drivers 13:02:54 <Chris_Booth> there must be a better standard FS than fat 13:03:06 <KenjiE20> so we're stuck with vFAT 13:03:38 <Chris_Booth> or exFat 13:03:54 *** pugi has quit IRC 13:04:05 <Ammler> wouldn't know, if my car hifi could read ntfs 13:05:03 *** pugi_ has quit IRC 13:05:21 <Chris_Booth> Ammler: it wouldnt 13:05:27 <Chris_Booth> nor would a digial camera 13:05:58 <Chris_Booth> what to HD video cameras use? 13:06:10 <Chris_Booth> sinice HD video is more than 2GB 13:06:22 <Chris_Booth> when uncompressed 13:07:14 <KenjiE20> UDF maybe, or their own maybe? 13:07:46 *** pugi__ is now known as pugi 13:08:32 <Chris_Booth> pugi: you got connection issues 13:09:36 <pugi> i know 13:09:56 <Chris_Booth> it was a question 13:10:20 <pugi> my wlan vpn connection is always getting disconnected here in university 13:10:37 <Chris_Booth> turn the VPN off then 13:11:04 <Chris_Booth> unless you are using it to connect to a server or desktop 13:12:15 <pugi> i need it to get internet :P 13:12:56 <pugi> at least i have awesome connection speed here :D 13:21:46 <pugi> well, i am going now :) 13:22:00 <pugi> i'll be back in 2 hours 13:22:10 *** pugi has quit IRC 13:22:12 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 13:22:17 *** pugi has quit IRC 13:24:58 *** FiCE has quit IRC 13:39:48 *** LordAzamath has joined #openttdcoop 13:48:00 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 13:50:42 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 14:10:59 *** LordAzamath has quit IRC 14:38:41 <PublicServer> *** Blue has left the game (leaving) 14:46:36 *** highpinger has joined #openttdcoop 14:58:07 <Nickman_87> !players 14:58:09 <PublicServer> Nickman_87: There are currently no clients connected to the server 15:05:27 <Mark> 'lo 15:08:25 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 15:08:36 <Mark> !password 15:08:36 <PublicServer> Mark: thrash 15:08:45 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 15:08:59 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 15:09:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 15:10:15 *** md204 has joined #openttdcoop 15:12:13 *** FrancoBegbie has joined #openttdcoop 15:18:11 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 15:18:30 <pugi> back :) 15:18:43 <pugi> !players 15:18:44 <PublicServer> pugi: Client 104 (Orange) is Mark, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 15:19:09 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 15:27:35 <jonde> !password 15:27:35 <PublicServer> jonde: gorges 15:27:42 <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game 15:28:22 <Nickman_87> [16:08:14] <@Mark> !password 15:28:22 <Nickman_87> [16:08:14] <+PublicServer> Mark: thrash 15:28:31 <Nickman_87> Publicserver always speaks the truth... :D 15:40:10 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has joined spectators 15:49:16 *** cifvts__ has quit IRC 16:04:16 *** md204 has quit IRC 16:04:58 <atdt_> !password 16:04:58 <PublicServer> atdt_: eroded 16:05:07 <PublicServer> *** atdt joined the game 16:05:38 <PublicServer> *** atdt has left the game (leaving) 16:08:55 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 16:14:32 *** |Genesis| has joined #openttdcoop 16:15:26 *** dr_gonzo has joined #openttdcoop 16:16:04 *** A3aan has joined #openttdcoop 16:16:09 *** Cif has joined #openttdcoop 16:16:31 <A3aan> !players 16:16:33 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 105 is jondisti, a spectator 16:17:21 <A3aan> !password 16:17:22 <PublicServer> A3aan: pallor 16:17:30 <PublicServer> *** A3aan joined the game 16:20:10 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has left the game (leaving) 16:20:18 *** A3aan has quit IRC 16:20:58 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 16:24:46 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (connection lost) 16:25:03 <PublicServer> *** Kenji joined the game 16:26:07 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has joined company #1 16:26:08 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 16:26:17 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has joined spectators 16:26:18 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 16:26:34 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (leaving) 16:27:35 <PublicServer> *** pugi has joined spectators 16:34:46 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 16:36:45 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 16:44:01 <tneo> evening 16:44:21 <Mark> 'lo tneo 16:46:27 <PublicServer> <Spike> mark nice island :) 16:46:37 <Mark> thanks 16:46:47 <Mark> should get some trains running i'm afraid 16:47:10 <PublicServer> <Spike> yep.. 16:49:21 <PublicServer> *** pugi has joined company #1 16:49:22 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 16:51:22 <PublicServer> <Spike> pugi going for a main station yet? :) 16:51:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm... i guess i have to 16:57:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> bbh02 is incomplete 16:57:19 <PublicServer> <pugi> there is no way from east to north 16:58:43 <KenjiE20> hmmm, how ARE these trains doing 300km/h on cl2 16:58:56 <KenjiE20> every calc I do says they can do 266.4 max 16:58:59 <hylje> tilting? 16:59:12 <pugi> @calc 300*0.8 16:59:12 <Webster> pugi: 240 16:59:16 <pugi> @calc 300/1.2 16:59:17 <Webster> pugi: 250 16:59:18 <pugi> hm 16:59:19 <KenjiE20> 266.4 is tilt 16:59:24 <KenjiE20> 244 is without 16:59:29 <hylje> magic then 16:59:38 <KenjiE20> sorry 222 17:01:09 <KenjiE20> unless jset modifies that 17:02:00 <pugi> @calc 232-(13-2)**2 17:02:00 <Webster> pugi: 111 17:02:08 <pugi> @calc 232-((13-2)**2) 17:02:08 <Webster> pugi: 111 17:02:14 <pugi> uhm.. 17:02:27 <KenjiE20> +100% mod for maglev 17:02:31 <KenjiE20> so 222 17:02:34 <pugi> yeah 17:02:35 <pugi> sorry ^^ 17:02:41 <KenjiE20> +20% mod for tilt 17:02:42 <KenjiE20> 266.4 17:03:08 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 17:03:17 *** Guest469 is now known as Zarenor 17:03:33 <pugi> @calc 300/222 17:03:33 <Webster> pugi: 1.35135135135 17:03:43 <pugi> maybe it is 40% :P 17:04:02 <KenjiE20> it's probably modded to 40 in the newgrf then 17:04:24 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-2)**2)*2.4 17:04:25 <Webster> pugi: 266.4 17:04:29 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-2)**2)*2*1.4 17:04:30 <Webster> pugi: 310.8 17:04:32 <pugi> :D 17:05:22 <Zarenor> !players 17:05:24 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 111 (Orange) is pugi, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 17:05:24 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 105 is jondisti, a spectator 17:05:24 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 116 (Orange) is Spike, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 17:05:45 <Razaekel> !password 17:05:45 <PublicServer> Razaekel: soured 17:05:52 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 17:06:13 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-1)**2)*2*1.4 17:06:13 <Webster> pugi: 246.4 17:06:18 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-1)**2)*2*1.2 17:06:18 <Webster> pugi: 211.2 17:09:26 <pugi> hmm 17:09:30 <pugi> it drives 210 17:09:33 <PublicServer> <Spike> what 17:09:33 <pugi> in cl 1 17:09:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> use cl2? 17:09:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 17:10:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> but calc gives 211 17:10:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> with tilting bonus 20% 17:10:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> so itis just 20% 17:10:21 <^Spike^> @calc 300*.8 17:10:22 <Webster> ^Spike^: 240 17:10:29 <^Spike^> !magcl 240 17:10:33 <^Spike^> @magcl 240 17:10:33 <Webster> CL 2.464 required for maglev at speed 240km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:10:40 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 17:10:44 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-1)**2)*2*1.2 17:10:44 <Webster> pugi: 211.2 17:10:45 <pugi> this 17:11:02 <PublicServer> <Spike> why the com calc? 17:11:07 <PublicServer> <Spike> complicated 17:11:23 <pugi> it is the formula 17:11:33 <KenjiE20> that's how it's calc'd, plus the mag lev * plus the tilt * 17:11:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> what 17:11:50 <^Spike^> 1.2 cause? 17:11:58 <KenjiE20> 20% tilt bonus 17:12:08 <^Spike^> isn't it .8 then? 17:12:33 <KenjiE20> no 17:12:55 <Chris_Booth> its 20% more spike 17:12:58 <Chris_Booth> not 20% less 17:13:16 <KenjiE20> hence bonus, not penalty :) 17:13:46 <^Spike^> @magcl 211 17:13:46 <Webster> CL 1.797 required for maglev at speed 211km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:13:54 <^Spike^> then it's still 2 17:14:08 <KenjiE20> yea, but they're doing 300km/h in CL2 17:14:13 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-2.5)**2)*2*1.2 17:14:13 <Webster> pugi: 292.2 17:14:13 <KenjiE20> which doesn't add up 17:14:19 <pugi> it is cl 2.5 17:14:25 <pugi> and cl 2 17:14:27 <pugi> varied 17:14:41 <pugi> because straight tiles count as much as diagonal 17:15:05 <pugi> see the test on my isle 17:15:07 <pugi> !cltest 17:15:14 <pugi> with just cl2 is does slow down 17:15:32 <KenjiE20> they won't slow on two opposites in one TL 17:15:36 <KenjiE20> they never do 17:15:49 <pugi> yes 17:15:51 <hylje> s curves 17:15:54 <pugi> not in two 17:15:57 <pugi> but in three at once 17:16:00 <Chris_Booth> pugi each diagonal counts as a half 17:16:05 <pugi> no 17:16:12 <Chris_Booth> it does 17:16:17 <pugi> http://openttdcoop.org/2009/05/13/about-curve-lengths/ 17:16:20 <KenjiE20> turn measurement on 17:16:22 <KenjiE20> and see 17:16:36 <pugi> Interesting fact is that the source code considers what we call a half diagonal tile as an entire tile. We would call the leftmost picture a CL5 (or 4.5) curve and the upper a CL9 curve, while they’re both considered 9 tile curves by the formula, meaning they allow for the same maximim speed. 17:16:56 <Chris_Booth> that is wrong 17:17:00 <|Genesis|> !password 17:17:00 <PublicServer> |Genesis|: cranks 17:17:00 <Chris_Booth> and should be removed 17:17:12 <PublicServer> *** MeisterMarkus joined the game 17:17:16 <Chris_Booth> try it out 17:17:24 <pugi> i did 17:17:44 <pugi> but why would a train do 300 in a cl 2 loop? 17:17:48 <Chris_Booth> make a TL9 train turn in what you call a 9 tile corner (none maglev, and no tilt) 17:17:51 *** Venxir has joined #openttdcoop 17:18:01 <pugi> made of 2 straight and 3 diagonal tiles each 17:18:18 <pugi> which would only be a cl 1.5 curve? 17:18:42 <Chris_Booth> yes 17:18:48 <Chris_Booth> use the built in measuring tool 17:19:17 <Chris_Booth> it goes 0.5,1.1.5,2 ... n 17:19:26 <hylje> 1.1.5? 17:19:34 <Chris_Booth> typo 17:19:37 <Chris_Booth> 1,1.5 17:19:42 <Chris_Booth> it goes 0.5,1,1.5,2 ... n 17:21:57 <pugi> but you still have to tell my why a train drives 300km/h in a cl 2 circle if it should be 266 max 17:21:58 <KenjiE20> Mark's article isn't wrong, and pugi is right, diags count as one for internal calc 17:22:40 <Chris_Booth> then how comes a TL 9 TVG in 2cc needs a CL of 18 then? 17:22:51 <pugi> max speed? 17:22:52 <KenjiE20> it'd need 9 booth 17:22:55 <Chris_Booth> to keep @ 300 17:23:02 <KenjiE20> "TL 9" 17:23:04 <pugi> is it maglev? 17:23:05 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: try it 17:23:08 <Chris_Booth> no 17:23:10 <Chris_Booth> its erail 17:23:15 <pugi> and no tilting? 17:23:18 <KenjiE20> why would a TL of 9 need anymore than it's TL 17:23:32 <KenjiE20> it won't touch any more than 1 17:23:40 <Chris_Booth> TL9 if you count each digonal as a tilt then you need 18 tiles to turn in 17:23:48 <Seppel> !password 17:23:48 <PublicServer> Seppel: broils 17:23:50 <Chris_Booth> if you count them as halves you need 9 17:23:55 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 17:23:58 <KenjiE20> 18 diagonal rail peices 17:24:04 <KenjiE20> which is 9 on the tooltop 17:24:11 <KenjiE20> tooltip* 17:24:12 <Chris_Booth> yes 17:24:17 <Chris_Booth> this is what i said 17:24:23 <Chris_Booth> so each diagonal is only .5 17:24:27 <Chris_Booth> not 1 17:24:31 <KenjiE20> to the gui 17:24:33 <pugi> it is 1 internally 17:24:35 <KenjiE20> it's half 17:24:38 <pugi> please read what we wrote 17:24:41 <KenjiE20> it's 1 for the internal calc 17:24:47 <Chris_Booth> i know what you wrote 17:24:54 <KenjiE20> @KenjiE20 | Mark's article isn't wrong, and pugi is right, diags count as one for internal calc 17:25:19 <pugi> so cl 9 is needed? 17:25:21 <KenjiE20> "for internal calc" not for gui 17:25:23 <pugi> or cl 18= 17:25:24 <pugi> ? 17:25:40 <pugi> you said cl 18 17:25:40 <pugi> okay 17:25:41 <Chris_Booth> i know KenjiE20 that not my point. People assume from marks aricle which is very unclear that CL9 internal and gui are the same 17:25:42 <KenjiE20> gui counts diagonals as half tiles 17:25:54 <PublicServer> <Spike> thinking about how to create my sbahn... 17:25:58 <KenjiE20> no it doesn't 17:26:27 <KenjiE20> the picture only demonstrates what the internal calc 'sees' 17:26:36 <Chris_Booth> no it doesn't isnt even a vaild resopnce 17:26:40 <Chris_Booth> it is unclear 17:26:49 <pugi> chris is being ignorant 17:26:55 <pugi> and gives no proofs of his theory 17:27:00 <Chris_Booth> and it does suggest the CL9 isnt actual 18 tiles 17:27:19 <KenjiE20> where does that article even mention 18? 17:27:29 <KenjiE20> I see 4.5, 5 and 9 17:27:31 <Chris_Booth> it doesnt it was my example 17:27:31 <KenjiE20> no 18 17:28:10 <KenjiE20> bugger this, back to writing the clcalc plugin 17:28:20 <Chris_Booth> the pictur of CL5 / CL9 do not have the same max speed for trains 17:28:33 <KenjiE20> yes it does 17:28:44 <Chris_Booth> how does it? 17:28:53 <KenjiE20> because while it's CL5 to 'us' 17:29:05 <KenjiE20> they are both track lengths of 9 to the formula 17:29:05 <Chris_Booth> no in his picture 17:29:51 <Chris_Booth> so you say if i have a TL 9 train it will go max arround a CL5 turn 17:29:54 <KenjiE20> yes, in his picture, he's showing how the formula trats them 17:30:03 <KenjiE20> treats* 17:30:44 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-5)**2)*1.5 17:30:44 <Webster> pugi: 252 17:30:53 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-3)**2)*1.5 17:30:53 <Webster> pugi: 198 17:31:28 <pugi> hmm 17:31:37 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-3)**2) 17:31:37 <Webster> pugi: 132 17:32:15 <pugi> damn 17:32:45 <pugi> there are no trains available for erail or normal rail that have a higher speed than cl3 allows :( 17:32:54 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 17:33:22 <pugi> and neither for maglev 17:33:26 <Chris_Booth> pugi: i am not an idiot i know how it work 17:33:33 <Chris_Booth> but i think the article is unclear 17:33:38 <Chris_Booth> and badly written 17:33:47 <pugi> i could understand that perfectly 17:33:55 <pugi> and most other people don't read these articles 17:34:38 <KenjiE20> booth I just tested it 17:34:57 <KenjiE20> A TL9 2x SH125 goes round a CL5 at 201km/h 17:35:07 <Ammler> hmm 17:35:31 <Chris_Booth> try something over 201km/h 17:35:38 <Chris_Booth> like asia star 17:35:45 <pugi> try a cl3 17:35:56 <pugi> 3 straight, 3 half diagonals 17:37:17 <KenjiE20> cl3 (i.e. 5 internal slows to 168) 17:37:48 <KenjiE20> cl4 (i.e. 7 internal) also slows 17:39:21 *** MizardX has quit IRC 17:39:52 *** MizardX has joined #openttdcoop 17:42:57 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 17:45:13 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: so these both give TL 9 top speed? 17:45:15 <Chris_Booth> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/images/cl.jpg 17:45:58 <pugi> yes 17:46:07 <Chris_Booth> no they dont 17:46:26 <Chris_Booth> the train on the loop is limited to 240km/h out of it 300km/h 17:46:35 <Chris_Booth> and the otherone is fine 17:47:08 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-9)**2)*1.5 17:47:08 <Webster> pugi: 324 17:47:22 <Chris_Booth> why 1.5? 17:47:26 <pugi> because erail 17:47:28 <Chris_Booth> there is no bonus 17:47:34 <pugi> ah 17:47:37 <pugi> damn, yes ^^ 17:47:40 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-9)**2) 17:47:40 <Webster> pugi: 216 17:48:02 <pugi> 1.5 would be monorail 17:48:16 <Chris_Booth> yes 17:48:25 <Chris_Booth> now see how the example doesnt work 17:48:33 <Chris_Booth> they are not both CL9 17:48:40 <pugi> so it is constantly 240 at loop train? 17:49:00 <pugi> it should only allow 216 17:49:18 <pugi> @erailcl 9 17:49:21 <pugi> mh 17:49:25 <pugi> i don't know these commands ^^ 17:49:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> railcl 17:49:44 <pugi> @railcl 9 17:49:44 <Webster> CL -1.9 required for rail at speed 9km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:49:44 <Chris_Booth> @railcl 9 17:49:46 <Webster> CL -1.9 required for rail at speed 9km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:49:55 <pugi> @railclspd 9 17:49:59 <pugi> grrr... 17:50:10 <Chris_Booth> @railcl 300 17:50:11 <Webster> CL 13 required for rail at speed 300km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:50:26 <pugi> @railcl 216 17:50:26 <Webster> CL 9.127 required for rail at speed 216km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:51:52 <pugi> @trainclspd 9 17:51:53 <Webster> Train speed with CL of 9 is; 110 km/h or 68.75 mph 17:52:10 <pugi> huh 17:52:25 <pugi> which formula is now correct? :/ 17:53:02 <Chris_Booth> the rail CL speed 17:53:08 <Chris_Booth> @railcl 216 17:53:08 <Webster> CL 9.127 required for rail at speed 216km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:53:26 <pugi> @railcl 200 17:53:27 <Webster> CL 7.432 required for rail at speed 200km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:53:29 <pugi> @railcl 220 17:53:30 <Webster> CL 9.683 required for rail at speed 220km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:53:34 <pugi> @railcl 210 17:53:34 <Webster> CL 8.417 required for rail at speed 210km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:53:38 <pugi> @railcl 214 17:53:38 <Webster> CL 8.876 required for rail at speed 214km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:53:42 <pugi> @railcl 217 17:53:42 <Webster> CL 9.258 required for rail at speed 217km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:53:45 <pugi> @railcl 216 17:53:45 <Webster> CL 9.127 required for rail at speed 216km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:53:48 <pugi> flooding .x 17:53:58 <pugi> @railcl 215 17:53:58 <Webster> CL 9 required for rail at speed 215km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 17:53:58 <Chris_Booth> pugi will get you banned if you spam 17:54:23 <pugi> is your train tilting? 17:54:29 <Mark> !password 17:54:30 <PublicServer> Mark: abouts 17:54:33 <PublicServer> *** pugi has joined spectators 17:54:35 <PublicServer> <Mark> 'lo 17:54:36 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 17:54:41 <pugi> hi mark 17:54:56 <pugi> chris, is the train you are testing a tilting one? 17:54:58 <PublicServer> <Spike> seems i only got my sbahn main station... 17:55:03 <PublicServer> <Spike> kinda exotic design :D 17:55:29 <PublicServer> *** MeisterMarkus has left the game (leaving) 17:55:39 <PublicServer> <Spike> what you think Mark? ;) 17:55:48 <pugi> hmm, afk dinner 17:56:10 <PublicServer> <Mark> interesting design 17:56:29 <PublicServer> <Spike> i thought the same.. maybe it's just easier to move the ML to the N side.. and sbahn to the S side :) 17:56:39 <Ammler> gmail guys here? 17:56:46 <PublicServer> <Spike> and no it isn't roro :) 17:56:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> ammler for what? 17:57:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> mark the secret lies in the middle actually.. they're all terminus :) 17:57:11 <Ammler> someone knows how to create "Answers" for the filter which automatically returns? 17:57:14 <PublicServer> <Spike> just put a maglev part in the middle 17:57:22 <^Spike^> nop.. 17:57:28 <^Spike^> i don't bother too much with those.. 17:57:35 <^Spike^> i get my mail.. that's all i need :) 17:59:03 <Ammler> ^Spike^: I like to answer automatically, if someone is sending a mail to a specific address 17:59:39 <Ammler> in fact my since around 5 years replaced address 18:00:16 <Chris_Booth> you want to apply an auto reply to gmail 18:00:19 <Chris_Booth> co you do that? 18:02:31 <Ammler> not a general replay 18:02:53 <Ammler> just adding it to a filter, so I can manage which address and such 18:03:15 <Ammler> the filter has this option, I just have no answers there to chose, so it is greyed out. 18:06:43 <PublicServer> <Spike> think i'm gonna test my sbahn station like that... :) 18:06:48 <PublicServer> <Spike> always got a plan B for it :D 18:06:57 <Chris_Booth> ammler do you use KDE or Gnome? 18:07:52 <PublicServer> <Mark> i think i'm going to throw in some ICE 18:08:00 *** Cif has quit IRC 18:08:47 *** Cif has joined #openttdcoop 18:08:59 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: what does that have to do with gmail? 18:09:16 <Chris_Booth> nothing i am just making a suse VM 18:09:21 <Chris_Booth> and wondered which one you use 18:09:29 <Chris_Booth> or would recomend 18:09:31 <Ammler> and I use the better ;-) 18:09:42 <Chris_Booth> KDE? 18:10:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> lol 18:10:33 *** Cif has quit IRC 18:10:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> i gridlocked my sbahn already 18:10:42 <PublicServer> <Spike> xD 18:10:52 <Chris_Booth> crash a few 18:10:55 *** Cif has joined #openttdcoop 18:10:59 <Chris_Booth> that always helps lol 18:11:02 <PublicServer> <Spike> i think i see a solution 18:11:05 <PublicServer> <Spike> without crash 18:11:10 <PublicServer> <Spike> may i mark? 18:11:15 <Ammler> well, suse does support both quite well 18:11:30 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah 18:11:38 <Chris_Booth> it to late i went for KDE now as i use Gnome in ubuntu 18:11:45 <Ammler> I use KDE the most, but you can very well have GNOME installed parallel. 18:11:59 <Ammler> but since KDE 4.3, there is no need anymore to use it. 18:12:03 <PublicServer> <Spike> just force them to take a different route 18:12:41 <Ammler> but you should make your own choice, ubuntus prefer gnome. 18:13:09 <Chris_Booth> i have never used KDE so i thought i wouold give it ago 18:13:22 <Chris_Booth> had a nice picture of a clock 18:13:33 <Ammler> not to late, as said, suse can handle both very well 18:13:43 <Ammler> also in a post install 18:13:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> i think i'm going to get suse as well 18:13:59 <PublicServer> <Mark> ubuntu has way too much useless stuff installed 18:14:07 <Ammler> I have also xfce4 installed here. 18:14:15 <Ammler> for low resource things. 18:14:17 <PublicServer> <Spike> i'm thinking about install linux again.. but don't know what distro yet 18:14:41 <Chris_Booth> spike ATM i am not impressed with ubuntu 18:14:47 <Chris_Booth> so wouldnt recomend that 18:14:50 <Chris_Booth> even over vista 18:14:51 <PublicServer> <Spike> i've never been :) 18:14:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> me n'either 18:15:00 <PublicServer> <Mark> i do recommend it over vista though 18:15:12 <Chris_Booth> lol 18:15:13 <tneo> OPENSUSE !!!! 18:15:19 <tneo> :-D 18:15:21 <Chris_Booth> i like fedora used that the otherday at uni 18:15:22 <PublicServer> <Spike> tneo that's someone as an idea.. :) 18:15:43 <Ammler> but please don't expect to be able to compare KDE and GNOME after 5 mins. 18:16:03 <Ammler> I needed around a month to trash Gnome 18:16:05 <tneo> they aren't really comparable 18:16:27 <tneo> i just don't like KDE the way it looks feels and handles 18:16:44 <tneo> but it is all personal choice 18:16:51 <Ammler> hehe 18:17:33 <Ammler> well, if you use suse/kde, the first thing you have to do. 18:17:55 <Ammler> update KDE to 4.3 don't use the installed kde4 18:18:13 <Chris_Booth> wont it have KDE4.3 i downloaded it today 18:18:16 <tneo> installed it in a vb but it can't appeal me 18:18:22 <PublicServer> <Spike> atm i'm not planning to do it any sooner then february... 18:18:33 <pugi> i am back :) 18:18:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> cause i need my computer up to write my report and stuff for college... :) 18:18:43 <Ammler> imo, that is the same in gnome, the real advantage are the apps. 18:19:14 <tneo> spike use openoffice :-) 18:19:17 <Ammler> k3b & amarok are just 2 very much unbeatable by gnome 18:19:57 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: you will have suse 11.1, I assume? 18:20:03 <Ammler> so you have a real ugly kde 18:20:04 <Mark> Ammler: you like amarok? 18:20:38 <Chris_Booth> yeah 11.1 18:20:41 <Ammler> but you can update to kde4.3, quite easy. 18:21:06 <tneo> when you run update during install you get 4.3 18:21:08 *** Progman has quit IRC 18:21:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> hmmm i'm bad at sbahn designs... i really can't think of something... :) 18:21:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> just drop some stations and connect them 18:21:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> like i did :P 18:21:56 <PublicServer> <Spike> well you made it a small sort of network... :) 18:22:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> i usually just end up with well... juts stations and alot of walk :D 18:22:23 <Ammler> Mark: wasn't that clear? 18:22:33 <Mark> :P 18:22:35 <Ammler> well, I am not that a music freak 18:22:45 <Ammler> tneo: you don't 18:22:50 <PublicServer> <Spike> i got an idea.. :) 18:22:59 <Mark> rhythmbox does everything i want a music player to do 18:23:03 <Ammler> you need to add a specail kde43 repo 18:23:10 <tneo> Ammler, yes I just did so in a virtualbox install 18:23:25 <Chris_Booth> vbox snap 18:23:32 <Chris_Booth> just creating my VM in vbox 18:24:54 <Chris_Booth> any how i am off now 18:24:57 <Chris_Booth> toodles all 18:25:08 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 18:29:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> Furuoka Heigths looks like a microship 18:29:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> apart from the micro part 18:29:53 <PublicServer> <Spike> :) 18:30:06 <PublicServer> <Spike> the thing i don't like is the lack of bypass of the station 18:30:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> it's really obscene 18:30:08 <PublicServer> <Spike> but well... 18:33:04 <pugi> @tunnels 3 18:33:04 <Webster> For trainlength 3: < 2 needs 2, 3 - 7 needs 3, 8 - 12 needs 4. 18:33:57 <PublicServer> <Mark> crap 18:34:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh noes 18:34:07 <PublicServer> <Spike> mark... 18:34:10 <PublicServer> <Spike> pffff 18:34:11 <PublicServer> <Spike> :) 18:34:12 <PublicServer> <Mark> :D 18:39:46 <PublicServer> *** pugi has joined company #1 18:40:15 <Ammler> pugi: that is a wrong formula 18:40:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe 18:40:41 <Ammler> 3 tunnels for 3 tiles? 18:40:44 <KenjiE20> well... it's wrong for anything under 5/6 18:41:18 <KenjiE20> the formula's just a reversed one of !tunnels, but it goes quirky 18:41:25 <Ammler> I guess you can safely add 1 everywhere 18:41:52 <KenjiE20> probably, I don't rely on either of them tbh 18:42:11 *** astendra has joined #openttdcoop 18:42:55 <Ammler> !gap 3 3 18:42:55 <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 3. 18:43:17 <Ammler> hmm, is that gone? 18:43:35 <Ammler> !tunnels 3 3 18:43:35 <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 3. 18:43:43 <Ammler> !fish 18:43:43 <PublicServer> Ammler: Today's fish is a dolphine from a tunafish can... yummy! 18:44:02 <planetmaker> :-D 18:44:04 <planetmaker> !fish 18:44:04 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Today's fish is sushi with eel. 18:44:12 <planetmaker> uh... new fishes, eh? 18:46:18 <Ammler> I broke something with my irc client, I have huge lags here. 18:46:27 <Ammler> !logs 18:46:37 <Ammler> around 20 secs 18:47:04 <PublicServer> <Spike> going for the stations and walk method again.. :) 18:48:18 <astendra> hey guys 18:48:24 <astendra> @quickstart 18:48:26 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart 18:48:43 <Aali> !fish 18:48:44 <PublicServer> Aali: Today's fish is smoked eel on toast with horseradish cream. 18:48:57 <Aali> sounds delicious! 18:49:17 <astendra> !fish 18:49:17 <PublicServer> astendra: Today's fish is a sword fish, battered and fried. 18:49:27 <planetmaker> hi astendra 18:49:36 <planetmaker> and hello Aali - long time no seen! 18:49:58 <Aali> long time no see, indeed 18:50:10 <planetmaker> how're you doing? 18:50:13 <Aali> and now I'm leaving again 18:50:18 <planetmaker> :-( 18:50:20 <Aali> damn real life :P 18:50:42 <Aali> but I'm doing great thank you :) 18:51:11 <planetmaker> that's good to hear at least :-) 18:52:19 <astendra> so, what's going on? :) 18:53:37 <PublicServer> <Spike> yippie! :) 18:53:52 <PublicServer> <Mark> bah 18:54:02 <PublicServer> <Mark> Yamaoka has two Toya Views and i have none 18:55:27 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 18:55:31 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (connection lost) 18:56:34 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 18:57:52 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 18:57:59 <Ammler> yeah, gmail works.... 18:58:11 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh... no trains visit SHI? 18:59:56 <PublicServer> <Mark> train 65 is acting weird 19:00:02 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 19:00:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> oh wait.. 19:00:50 <planetmaker> I guess my island is free for the taking. I won't have much time to continue playing this week 19:01:05 <planetmaker> so whoever likes: an s-bahn is for the daring builder ;-) 19:01:49 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 19:08:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> they hate me :) 19:09:27 <PublicServer> <Spike> ffs :D 19:09:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> ... 19:12:53 <planetmaker> buh! @ Spike ;-) 19:12:59 <PublicServer> <Spike> what? :) 19:13:21 <planetmaker> hm... obviously you don't really assume that we hate you ;-) 19:13:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> i meant the towns :) 19:13:42 <PublicServer> <Spike> but if you guys hate me too i'll leave.. :) 19:16:38 <planetmaker> :´-( Don't 19:16:42 <PublicServer> <Spike> :) 19:22:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> this isn't gonna work like i hoped :D 19:22:46 <PublicServer> <Spike> wtf 19:22:57 <PublicServer> <Spike> train took a 90 degree turn 19:23:01 <^Spike^> !setdef 19:23:02 <PublicServer> *** ^Spike^ has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 19:25:51 *** [1]Blue has quit IRC 19:28:03 <PublicServer> <Spike> gonna redo the sbahn main station.. :) 19:28:22 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 19:29:13 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 19:29:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 19:32:59 *** A3aan has joined #openttdcoop 19:33:07 <A3aan> !players 19:33:08 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 111 (Orange) is pugi, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 19:33:09 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 105 is jondisti, a spectator 19:33:09 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 124 (Orange) is Spike, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 19:33:09 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 122 is Mark, a spectator 19:33:17 <A3aan> !password 19:33:18 <PublicServer> A3aan: ninety 19:33:31 <PublicServer> *** A3aan joined the game 19:36:15 <PublicServer> <Spike> plane crash.. 19:41:46 <Razaekel> !password 19:41:47 <PublicServer> Razaekel: chiefs 19:41:55 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 19:44:25 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has left the game (leaving) 19:47:54 <PublicServer> <Mark> wow, there is not a single balanced join on this map 19:48:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 19:48:01 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 19:48:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> that's quite disturbing 19:48:17 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> who cares about those? 19:48:36 <PublicServer> <Mark> i wonder why i still bother writing blog posts and wiki pages.. 19:48:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 19:49:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> i am actually reading those 19:49:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> but it is hard to implement :/ 19:49:23 <PublicServer> <Mark> reading and happily ignoring afterwards 19:49:45 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> now my grid works nciely 19:49:54 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> still need some tweaking, but i'll do that later 19:50:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> i am no member, so i don't have to be perfect :D 19:51:03 <PublicServer> <Mark> should be your goal to at least improve, imho 19:51:11 <Zarenor> !players 19:51:13 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 111 (Orange) is pugi, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 19:51:13 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 105 is jondisti, a spectator 19:51:13 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 124 (Orange) is Spike, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 19:51:13 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 122 is Mark, a spectator 19:51:14 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 128 (Orange) is Razaekel, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 19:51:20 <Zarenor> !password 19:51:20 <PublicServer> Zarenor: chiefs 19:51:33 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1 19:51:40 <PublicServer> <Spike> TL2 seems to be too short at some points 19:52:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> cl 19:52:08 <Zarenor> !password 19:52:08 <PublicServer> Zarenor: coughs 19:52:26 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker joined the game 19:52:29 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 19:52:44 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 19:54:28 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 19:56:16 <pugi> @calc (232-(16-3)**2)*2*1.2 19:56:16 <Webster> pugi: 151.2 19:56:32 <pugi> uhm.. 19:56:57 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hm? 19:57:05 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-3)**2)*2*1.2 19:57:05 <Webster> pugi: 316.8 19:57:11 <pugi> okay :D 19:57:14 <pugi> found the mistake :P 19:57:41 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-2.5)**2)*2*1.2 19:57:42 <Webster> pugi: 292.2 19:58:00 <A3aan> what are you calculating there if i may ask? 19:58:17 <pugi> max speed for our n700 19:58:53 <A3aan> ah ok 19:58:54 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Trying to figure out why it can take CL2 19:59:01 <pugi> i can't 19:59:05 <pugi> it* 19:59:06 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> in a very extreme example, I have a TL12 that takes CL2 19:59:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is cl3 for diagonals 19:59:31 <A3aan> and what is CL2? 19:59:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> if you make a loop 19:59:33 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Mine works on CL2 19:59:39 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Curve length 19:59:46 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'll see amout a tighter loop 19:59:53 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *about 20:00:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> internally diagonal track tiles are counted as a full 20:00:02 <A3aan> i could have known :) 20:00:03 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but currently, mine takes CL2 no problems 20:02:35 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> My tl12 ttakes most of this loop at 300 fine 20:02:45 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I didn't do afull loop, would cause crash 20:02:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> see my depot 20:02:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm 20:02:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> isle 20:03:19 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> right 20:03:24 <A3aan> why is the wiki entry about LB deleted? 20:03:45 <Mark> because it's replaced by a new one 20:03:55 <A3aan> nice :) 20:04:01 <Mark> all three are replaced by a single new one, even 20:04:08 <A3aan> when does it come online? 20:04:09 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> okay, so it doen't take S-bends the sme as mixed curves 20:04:13 <Mark> it already is 20:04:19 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> because those curves count as mixed 2/3 20:04:24 <A3aan> then i missed it i guess 20:04:32 <KenjiE20> @lb 20:04:32 <Webster> Load Balancer, see: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Balancing 20:04:42 <A3aan> ty :) 20:05:14 <Mark> oh nice, you fixed that :) 20:05:37 <KenjiE20> fixed it after I added it to RE 20:06:01 <KenjiE20> pugi; why are you putting 2.5 into that formula? 20:06:04 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> number is in half tiles 20:06:10 <KenjiE20> ^ that 20:06:13 <pugi> nevermind :P 20:06:19 <pugi> 2.5 was just wrong :D 20:06:22 <pugi> and impossible 20:06:28 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and since that's ~18 tiles 20:07:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> 32? :O 20:07:45 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> 16 tile train 20:07:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm 20:08:03 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hm 20:08:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> i thought so :P 20:08:07 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> did i miscalculate something? 20:08:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> seemed a bit long :D 20:08:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> try... 28? 20:08:15 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I did.. okay.. so 14 tile? 20:08:19 <PublicServer> <pugi> or even less 20:08:38 <pugi> @calc 4*2+4*1.5 20:08:38 <Webster> pugi: 14 20:08:38 <Mark> the priorities on BBH section seems out of place now i look at it again 20:08:42 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I was thinking on 2.5 not 1.5 per corner.. so... 20:08:50 <Mark> i should move that to the BBH page once i get done with that 20:08:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> 27 to be sure 20:09:08 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> one sec 20:09:26 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> they are exact half-tiles 20:09:30 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> the cars 20:09:40 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> 27 will have a gap 20:09:55 <KenjiE20> Mark; leave a note on the review page for later :) 20:10:09 <Mark> yeah... 20:10:13 <Mark> should make that a habit :P 20:10:28 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> there you go... 20:10:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 20:10:31 <Mark> i always try to remember everything, goes wrong every now and then 20:11:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> 64... just a wild guess :P 20:11:22 <A3aan> looks better then the old page indeed :) 20:11:46 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> a bit short, actually... 20:11:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 20:11:53 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but still huge 20:12:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> it would take too long to come out otherwise :P 20:12:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm, now it is 300 everywhere 20:12:15 <PublicServer> <pugi> weird 20:12:16 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> yeah 20:12:19 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> very 20:12:32 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Kenji: I think there may be a bug to do with power cars 20:12:39 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 20:12:40 <KenjiE20> there's not 20:13:01 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Then explain this exopbitantly long train taking these s-bends at 300 20:13:09 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> when a shorter one could not 20:13:10 <KenjiE20> it's an S? 20:13:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> 7 S in a row 20:13:27 <A3aan> is there also a new entry for SML?? that concept still puzzles me 20:13:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> on each side 20:13:36 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> 32TL tain taking multiple sbends 20:13:39 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> 7 then 20:13:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> >10 most of the time at once 20:13:56 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> takes more than that at the same time 20:14:01 <Mark> A3aan: the biggest part of the old SML article is still valid 20:14:03 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> yeah 20:14:06 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> what he said 20:14:10 <KenjiE20> hang on, let me pull a save 20:14:23 <Mark> some new info should be added but it's not high prio on my list 20:14:27 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 20:14:53 <KenjiE20> nor is it on the high prio list on review iirc 20:15:06 *** FrancoBegbie has left #openttdcoop 20:15:11 <Mark> Zarenor: shinkansen uses maglev physics 20:15:28 <Mark> meaning trains can take turns twice as fast as with normal rail 20:15:39 <Mark> also some trains are tilting adding another 20% bonus 20:15:41 <pugi> yes 20:15:42 <A3aan> i study saves quite often... but because of the huge amount of tracks on them its hard to see the hubs and stuff clearly :/ 20:15:48 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-2)**2)*2*1.2 20:15:48 <Webster> pugi: 266.4 20:15:50 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Yes, I"m not even talking about formulas mark.. we've established that theres something more abnormal going on 20:15:54 <pugi> this should be max for cl 2 20:16:00 <pugi> but it is doing 300 20:16:09 <KenjiE20> where's these S's 20:16:17 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I don't hhonestly care for the formula aspect, though I do understand it... 20:16:23 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> pugi's island 20:16:27 <Mark> A3aan: for better SML understanding i suggest having a look at game 51 and 65 20:16:29 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> near BBH 03? 20:16:34 <Mark> they're pretty clear and spread out 20:16:38 <KenjiE20> north south what? 20:16:42 <KenjiE20> I haven't been in this one 20:16:43 <Mark> although the actual shifters may be outdated 20:16:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> next to bbh03 20:16:50 <A3aan> ok, i'm on my way 20:16:54 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> middle of the map, east 20:17:03 <KenjiE20> pugi "I haven't been in this one" 20:17:19 <KenjiE20> gotcha, ty ZD 20:17:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> sign list -> bbh03 >.> 20:17:24 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> sorry.. south of entry 20:18:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> or !CL TEST ;) 20:18:11 <KenjiE20> hm, that is sort of odd 20:18:26 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> he's using a save.. he can't pull that sign until it saves again 20:18:28 <A3aan> hmm... both games are not very CPU friendly i see :p 20:18:44 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but you see why that is odd.. he had an ICE-standard, I;e TL7 20:18:46 *** highpinger has quit IRC 20:18:54 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> slowed down on sbends 20:19:11 <KenjiE20> Mark; I made need your veritable expertise on this one :P 20:19:24 <pugi> 149 and 152 are sml 20:19:41 <Mark> KenjiE20: i'll hop in in a bit 20:19:51 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> is it possible because of a crazy power-to-weight ratio the accel/decel is making it unnoticable? 20:19:54 <KenjiE20> TL of what? 16, taking multiple reverse direction S bends 20:20:01 <Mark> pugi: i prefer refering to old games as the standards were much higher :P 20:20:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay :D 20:20:14 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> TL of 32 20:20:19 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> in the PSG 20:20:23 <Mark> !password 20:20:23 <PublicServer> Mark: bussed 20:20:35 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 20:20:38 <KenjiE20> actually, would that slow? 20:20:45 <KenjiE20> they're all CL2 20:20:54 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> at !CL TEST near BBH 03 20:21:03 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> they did on the TL7 train 20:21:05 <KenjiE20> so max speed on all of them is 316 20:21:09 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and IIRC on the 8 20:21:31 <KenjiE20> hmm, okay, lemme shrink this one 20:22:27 <PublicServer> <Mark> could you put a non-tilting train on the real cl2 track? 20:22:43 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> on it 20:22:46 <PublicServer> <pugi> look east 20:22:53 <PublicServer> <pugi> tl 10 on cl 2 now 20:22:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> and there are slowdowns 20:22:58 <KenjiE20> hmm 20:23:02 <PublicServer> <Mark> wow.. 20:23:10 <PublicServer> <Mark> that is weird indeed 20:23:15 <PublicServer> <pugi> but not with less than tl 10 20:23:32 *** highpinger has joined #openttdcoop 20:23:53 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> L5, depot length 10 20:24:04 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> depot is half-tiles 20:24:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> it might be because the TL64's power is so high you don't see it accelerating 20:24:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> might 20:24:13 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Thats what i was wondering 20:24:21 <A3aan> is there any more info about penalties?? 20:24:29 <Mark> @wiki penalties 20:24:33 <Mark> uh 20:24:33 <Webster> Penalties - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=penalties 20:24:41 <KenjiE20> mark, there's still only 1 power car though 20:24:51 <Mark> @penalties 20:25:07 <Mark> http://openttdcoop.org/wiki/Penalties 20:25:12 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> power was too high, I think the visual has nothing to do with it 20:25:13 <Mark> also a freshly-written page 20:25:17 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> it had 91k HP 20:25:24 <KenjiE20> yea, I just saw 20:25:51 <KenjiE20> mark. can you test this with default sprites? 20:26:16 <astendra> !password 20:26:17 <PublicServer> astendra: hewing 20:26:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> test what exactly? 20:26:29 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> theres ytou non-tilt mark 20:26:30 <PublicServer> <pugi> 222 and 265... 20:26:33 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> your 20:26:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> default trains don't have powered wagons or tilting trains 20:26:39 <KenjiE20> wondering if it's something with the way this set is modding the power 20:26:44 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-2)**2)*2 20:26:44 <Webster> pugi: 222 20:26:47 <PublicServer> *** astendra joined the game 20:26:48 <pugi> this fits 20:26:58 <pugi> @calc (232-(13-3)**2)*2 20:26:58 <Webster> pugi: 264 20:27:00 <pugi> and this 20:27:04 <pugi> well, almost 20:27:15 <KenjiE20> python rounds differently 20:27:18 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> 1kmh is simple rounding 20:27:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 20:27:27 <PublicServer> <Mark> it does slow down to 222 20:27:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> so tilting has weird effects 20:27:39 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and 265 20:27:41 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> as expected 20:27:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> what if you make it TL64? 20:27:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> no slowdown? 20:27:55 <PublicServer> <Mark> or 265 20:28:02 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'll see 20:28:12 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> or someone will 20:28:25 <KenjiE20> testing offline 20:28:32 <KenjiE20> non tilt tl64 20:28:43 <A3aan> Mark: thnx for that page 20:28:57 <Mark> you're welcome :) 20:29:12 <Mark> some of the pages are very new, so they require some proper integrating 20:29:13 <KenjiE20> stays at 210 20:29:15 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> TL32 no-tilt 20:29:25 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> 265 all the way 20:29:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> stays 265... 20:29:28 <PublicServer> <Mark> 265.. :) 20:29:44 <KenjiE20> eh, diff engine :P 20:29:46 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> never 300... which has been attrib'd to tilt 20:29:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe try with shorter train 20:30:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> like 40 20:30:02 <Mark> @calc 265*1.2 20:30:02 <Webster> Mark: 318 20:30:10 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and thus 20:30:15 <KenjiE20> so tilting, definately does odd things? 20:30:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> no 20:30:24 <PublicServer> <Mark> not really 20:30:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> long trains do 20:30:31 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> no, by the calcs, it should be dead on at 20% gain 20:30:32 <PublicServer> <Mark> i suspect the insane power 20:30:45 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ONLY 99k HP 20:30:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> 40 now 20:30:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> a 350km/h tilting train would probably reach 318km/h 20:31:04 <KenjiE20> okay, if you reckon that, I'll try a massive nontilt with 90khp ish 20:31:19 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Ours stayed at 265 20:31:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> 265 with tl20 20:31:36 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> IDK if the same would happen for you or not 20:31:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> dont forget to use maglev 20:32:05 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> 62k HP also works, weight of 1,795t 20:32:19 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 20:32:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> how long is this 20:32:27 <PublicServer> <Mark> 15? 20:32:29 <KenjiE20> okay, TL something stupid 20:32:35 <KenjiE20> power 96.1khp 20:32:39 <KenjiE20> non tilting maglev 20:32:47 <KenjiE20> 265 20:32:49 <PublicServer> <pugi> aha! 20:33:02 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> all the time? 20:33:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> it goes down to 222 if the train is only on cl2 20:33:11 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> "all" the time 20:33:26 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> 49.6k HP isn't enough to overcome 20:33:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> tl16 is 265 if it is on cl3 with any part of the train and 222 if only on cl2 20:34:02 <KenjiE20> neither is 96, by this model 20:34:05 <Mark> A3aan: does the penalties page make any sense to you? 20:34:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> so speed is determined by the largest cl it is on? 20:34:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> must test 20:34:34 <A3aan> yes and no :) 20:34:44 <Mark> what part doesn't? 20:34:50 <KenjiE20> okay, now 124khp non tilt 20:35:11 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> still *should* stick at ~265 20:35:42 <A3aan> which penalties there are to use and what value they have 20:35:48 <A3aan> i read that they can be altered 20:35:51 <KenjiE20> yup, still 265 20:36:04 <Mark> A3aan: those are all listed at the very top 20:36:13 <Mark> figured the names are self-explaining 20:36:22 <A3aan> i'm trying setup something offline to see if it works :p 20:36:29 <KenjiE20> mark; did you make that <pre> box bigger? 20:36:38 <KenjiE20> it's a bit cramed as it was 20:36:51 <Mark> no i didnt 20:36:53 <Mark> still 30% 20:37:01 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 20:37:34 <Mark> 35% now 20:39:19 <A3aan> Mark: trains also have a natural habbit to prefer a certain track?? 20:39:44 <Mark> if the tracks are perfectly equal you mean? 20:39:57 <Mark> i believe they take the southern then 20:40:10 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (connection lost) 20:40:22 <A3aan> ah ok 20:40:36 <Mark> not sure about that though 20:40:37 <KenjiE20> trains, naturally go for most south eastern (by coop compass) 20:40:43 <Mark> it's also not very relevant :P 20:40:53 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 20:41:03 <KenjiE20> take any network, clear it of trains, and let loose 1 without orders 20:41:04 *** pugi_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:41:09 <KenjiE20> it'll end up circling the SE as best it can 20:41:43 <Mark> interesting 20:41:46 <Mark> i never did that :P 20:41:55 <A3aan> need to try that 20:42:04 <Mark> yeah i should too 20:42:09 <Mark> off to bed for now though 20:42:19 <KenjiE20> I've let no orders out on occasion over my 15 years, that behaviour never seems to change :P 20:43:22 <A3aan> going to test a lil bit then 20:43:44 *** FrancoBegbie has joined #openttdcoop 20:44:04 <KenjiE20> lemme know how that works out :D haven't testing in a long while 20:44:36 <A3aan> i first need to build a network :) 20:44:45 <KenjiE20> take a PSG with SC's 20:44:48 <KenjiE20> "depot all" 20:44:49 <A3aan> which takes about a week for me lol 20:44:50 <KenjiE20> :P 20:45:18 <A3aan> still having trouble with larger hubs and stuff 20:45:48 <A3aan> i have plenty PSG saves 20:45:56 <A3aan> i still like 130 the most :) 20:46:29 <KenjiE20> @psgsave 136 20:46:29 <Webster> PSG 136 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_131_-_140#gameid_136 20:46:42 <KenjiE20> ^ that's probably a good one to test on 20:47:02 <A3aan> going to DL 20:47:23 *** pugi has quit IRC 20:47:23 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 20:47:48 <KenjiE20> although, 1248 trains may take a while to depot :P 20:47:59 <A3aan> i have time 20:48:15 <Mark> take the pimped version :P 20:48:18 <Mark> 2522 trains 20:48:22 *** highpinger has quit IRC 20:49:18 <Mark> oh wait 20:49:28 <Mark> pz05 is actually the pimped version of 124 20:49:47 <A3aan> they are all maglev so pretty fast :) 20:51:07 <A3aan> and i need to think about my oldskool notebook with 512MB RAM :p 20:52:04 <KenjiE20> grr, bad depot screwed up first attempt 20:52:49 <A3aan> nice i have a 10 mile traffic jam now :) 20:54:02 <KenjiE20> hah, I've jammed half the map on prios as they all converge 20:54:16 <KenjiE20> still better than half the map tying to cram down a SL for one depot 20:55:16 <A3aan> how many depots are there anyway... i spotted 1 so far 20:57:13 <KenjiE20> thre was one bad on a SL 20:57:17 <KenjiE20> the rest are in a SC 20:57:32 <KenjiE20> they're all trying to cram into one sub section of the SC atm 20:57:49 <KenjiE20> but as they get forced past it from slow trains they filter to other bits 20:58:02 <A3aan> BBH01 is jammed here too 20:58:12 <KenjiE20> they're all jammed 20:58:19 <KenjiE20> I've turbo'd and minimised 20:58:57 <KenjiE20> the east half has cleared off now 21:00:03 <A3aan> pfff.. lot of trains trying to go by BBH04 and SLH03 = jammmmmmmm 21:00:27 *** highpinger has joined #openttdcoop 21:02:03 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has left the game (leaving) 21:02:03 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:02:36 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 21:02:51 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker has joined spectators 21:03:11 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello 21:03:46 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 21:03:52 <PublicServer> *** astendra has left the game (leaving) 21:04:00 *** astendra has quit IRC 21:04:39 <KenjiE20> south clear 21:04:49 *** jonde has quit IRC 21:04:53 <KenjiE20> just north west, which needed a nudge 21:05:55 <A3aan> nothing clear :p 21:06:09 <A3aan> i just cut off the single SL depot 21:07:56 <A3aan> i got some movement again on the tracks lol 21:13:46 <KenjiE20> empty :) 21:15:02 <A3aan> showoff :p 21:15:09 <KenjiE20> okay, created a silly amount of lev4s 21:15:14 <KenjiE20> and off they go :) 21:15:17 <A3aan> i still have 50% of the trains on the tracks 21:15:41 <A3aan> without orders?? 21:17:10 <KenjiE20> yup 21:17:52 <KenjiE20> interesting, seems its changed a bit 21:18:10 <KenjiE20> they all take the exact same path, but they loop east by north east 21:18:44 <KenjiE20> lets see what happens if I make a tiny NE corner loop 21:18:50 <KenjiE20> see if they gravitate into it 21:19:02 <A3aan> lol 21:19:29 *** damalix has joined #openttdcoop 21:20:00 <KenjiE20> yup, the very second I connected it 21:20:12 <KenjiE20> and they queue to get in, till 6 trains queue 21:20:21 <damalix> !password 21:20:21 <PublicServer> damalix: hoists 21:20:21 <KenjiE20> then aparently the penalty is too high 21:20:36 <PublicServer> *** Damalix joined the game 21:20:46 <A3aan> so the natural path selection has changed a bit 21:21:28 <KenjiE20> changed from south to north 21:21:32 <KenjiE20> but otherwise the same 21:22:15 <KenjiE20> I bet your still going to try though :) 21:22:37 <PublicServer> *** Kolo has left the game (leaving) 21:22:51 <A3aan> yeah, i need to see with my own eyes 21:23:03 <A3aan> all that pro talk is puzzeling me somtimes 21:23:05 <A3aan> lol 21:24:06 <KenjiE20> heh, interesting, with PBS on it, they just sit for a free path 21:24:29 <KenjiE20> (PBS in the NE loop) 21:25:25 <A3aan> seems like i have a infinite jam somewhere 21:25:27 *** Kolo has quit IRC 21:25:27 <KenjiE20> with some extra PBS in there, I got one train to sit up against the north east tile border 21:26:33 <KenjiE20> clearly, they must want to go to 0,0 21:28:29 <PublicServer> <Damalix> I don't stay today, ood night guys 21:28:31 <PublicServer> <Damalix> Cya 21:28:39 <pugi> !password 21:28:40 <PublicServer> pugi: uproot 21:28:46 *** damalix has quit IRC 21:29:00 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 21:29:04 <PublicServer> *** Damalix has left the game (connection lost) 21:29:04 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 21:31:00 <PublicServer> *** pugi has joined company #1 21:31:01 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 21:31:07 <A3aan> i loaded again to see if i can get all trains off track lol 21:33:49 <KenjiE20> you want a save? 21:33:53 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 21:33:54 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 21:34:35 <A3aan> neh, i'll play with this one :) 21:34:45 <A3aan> stressing my laptop a bit :) 21:37:40 <A3aan> fan is blowing like crazy with so much trains 21:44:52 *** Venxir has quit IRC 21:52:07 *** mixrin has quit IRC 21:57:49 *** highpinger has quit IRC 22:01:11 <A3aan> KenjiE20: how do i get my name show up on the memberpage on the wiki?? 22:01:22 <KenjiE20> add it? 22:01:34 <A3aan> i made an account a while ago 22:01:51 <KenjiE20> alternatively, bug thrax to finish his alternative one 22:02:42 <A3aan> ? 22:02:55 *** Chillosophy^ has joined #openttdcoop 22:03:03 <hylje> A3aan: wiki magic is you 22:03:21 <A3aan> never used a wiki before 22:03:34 <A3aan> well... reading yes, editing no 22:03:53 <A3aan> i'm used to webdesign tho 22:04:30 <hylje> well the wiki has very very little magic of its own 22:04:46 <hylje> everything that happens in it is done by people 22:06:06 <A3aan> ok, i did know that 22:06:14 <A3aan> but before i mess up something :p 22:06:35 <KenjiE20> copypasta -> change relevant bit 22:07:40 <A3aan> copy the source of an existing user page?? 22:08:05 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 22:09:03 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 22:09:50 <Razaekel> !password 22:09:51 <PublicServer> Razaekel: duking 22:09:59 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 22:10:00 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 22:13:02 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> my area is looking nice and built up 22:21:43 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yosh 22:21:52 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> my grid is now officially awesome 22:22:56 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (connection lost) 22:22:56 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 22:23:57 <A3aan> seems like i succesfully made my first wiki page ever :D 22:24:05 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 22:37:36 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker has joined company #1 22:37:59 *** dr_gonzo has quit IRC 22:44:38 <Nickman_87> !players 22:44:40 <PublicServer> Nickman_87: Client 136 (Orange) is ZarenorDarkstalker, in company 1 (Shinkansen Inc.) 22:44:43 <Nickman_87> !password 22:44:44 <PublicServer> Nickman_87: hunter 22:45:06 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 22:45:08 <PublicServer> *** Nickman joined the game 22:48:54 *** A3aan has quit IRC 22:50:37 *** Kupuham has joined #openttdcoop 22:50:42 <Kupuham> !info 22:50:43 <PublicServer> Kupuham: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Shinkansen Inc.' Year Founded: 2000 Money: 432433823 Loan: 0 Value: 437800203 (T:146, R:36, P:7, S:7) unprotected 22:51:46 <PublicServer> *** Kupuham joined the game 22:52:34 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 23:02:26 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:04:46 *** FrancoBegbie has left #openttdcoop 23:10:33 <pugi> !password 23:10:33 <PublicServer> pugi: planks 23:10:55 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 23:13:14 *** Kupuham has quit IRC 23:14:40 <PublicServer> *** Nickman has left the game (leaving) 23:14:54 <PublicServer> *** Kupuham has joined spectators 23:17:17 *** |Genesis| has quit IRC 23:20:19 <PublicServer> *** Kupuham has joined company #1 23:28:17 *** AlexanderB has joined #openttdcoop 23:28:27 <AlexanderB> heya :) 23:28:36 <PublicServer> *** Kupuham has left the game (leaving) 23:30:26 <atdt_> !password 23:30:26 <PublicServer> atdt_: pegged 23:30:44 <PublicServer> *** atdt joined the game 23:31:00 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hey at 23:31:32 <AlexanderB> !download win64 23:31:32 <PublicServer> AlexanderB: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17847/openttd-trunk-r17847-windows-win64.zip 23:33:44 <AlexanderB> version mismatch.. :/ 23:33:54 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> so 23:34:05 <AlexanderB> oh goody, win7 f*cked up again 23:34:11 <Zarenor> win64 dl won't cause mismatch unless you update incorrectly 23:34:16 <AlexanderB> brb fixing this 23:34:18 <Zarenor> kay 23:36:48 <AlexanderB> if you unzip to a folder in /program files/ it just deletes the whole thing somehow 23:38:35 <AlexanderB> !password 23:38:35 <PublicServer> AlexanderB: washer 23:38:47 <PublicServer> *** AlexanderB joined the game 23:39:06 <PeterT> !password 23:39:06 <PublicServer> PeterT: washer 23:39:22 <PeterT> !revision 23:39:22 <PublicServer> PeterT: Game version is r17847 23:40:02 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 23:40:41 <PeterT> is this the right map? 23:41:46 *** Nickman_87 has quit IRC 23:42:51 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker has joined spectators 23:44:05 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 23:48:54 <PublicServer> *** Ardonel has left the game (connection lost) 23:49:47 *** Polygon has quit IRC 23:51:43 *** glevans2 has joined #openttdcoop 23:55:25 <PublicServer> *** AlexanderB has left the game (leaving) 23:55:29 *** AlexanderB has quit IRC 23:55:36 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC