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00:00:00 * KenjiE20 hasn't a clue about most of the inner works 00:00:04 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> problem is station exit i think 00:00:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 00:00:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I've found the error 00:00:19 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ? 00:00:29 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes that one 00:00:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Trains go to !Trains pick this 00:00:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Then there's no way to go south 00:00:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Err 00:00:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> West 00:01:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Without going through wood drop 00:01:08 <PublicServer> <Owen> grr... we had a reinforcing jam... 00:01:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You following me Jond? 00:01:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wow 00:01:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Big jam 00:02:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i noticed 00:02:16 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Giddorah: yes 00:02:23 <PublicServer> <Owen> Holy shi... 00:02:26 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 00:02:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I might have fixed it 00:02:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> caused by the unbalanced stuff 00:02:58 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Giddorah: how did you do that? 00:03:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> use the tunnels to split traffic :P 00:03:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight 00:03:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Jam's fixing itself 00:03:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But we kind of need to fix it permanently 00:04:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> My fix will only do for a while until the other line jams instead 00:04:15 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no one should build those lousy 'half balanced' mergers 00:04:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Now paper's jamming... 00:05:06 <PublicServer> <Owen> Byyyww..whwa... GAAAAAH! :P 00:05:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hehe 00:05:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Big time jam with 280+ trains... 00:05:17 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> YAHY! 00:05:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> removing full load order temp 00:05:25 <PublicServer> <Owen> I'd send lots to depot, but that would kill the drop 00:05:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Full load order is a good temp fix 00:05:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the exit's getting crowded though 00:06:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It'll manage 00:06:13 <PublicServer> <Owen> XeryusTC: Well you just attacked it with 200 trains :p 00:06:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> enabled full load again :P 00:06:27 <PublicServer> <Owen> Also ,should Sjaak not have a proper MSH number? :p 00:06:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 00:06:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it was BBH1 :P 00:06:53 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Sjaak was originally BBH 00:07:10 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'm still laughing at name Sjaak :P 00:07:26 <PublicServer> <Owen> Kicking them out again 00:07:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that was the idea :P 00:07:33 <KenjiE20> everytime I see "Sjaak", I think Skaarj 00:08:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Kind of need to fix MSH 02 too 00:08:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Trains can't go west from all exits on food drop 00:08:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Giddorah: they choose at the station 00:09:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... It's the reason why we have food-trains at Wood-drop 00:09:33 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> PBS forces them to choose free path 00:09:40 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> which isn't the one they should use 00:09:43 <PublicServer> <Owen> under OpenTTD it doesnt' 00:10:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pbs picks the path that leads to the destination mostly 00:10:08 <PublicServer> <Owen> Under openTTD trains will sit around for months waiting for the path they want rather than taking the path you want them to 00:10:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Mostly is not always :P 00:10:25 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 00:10:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Both me and jond has found the same conclusion 00:10:37 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it isnt actually very good at balancing 00:10:37 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes, that eastern route is alternative 00:10:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If you don't take my word for it :P 00:10:47 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but western we'd want 00:11:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> See Train 524 00:11:26 <PublicServer> <Owen> MSH01 is jammed now :p 00:11:51 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 00:12:21 *** jondisti has quit IRC 00:13:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> giant jam at paper drop :( 00:13:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, it's the oil trains actually :P 00:13:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> MSH01 should run a lil bit smoother now 00:13:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032A74: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00032A74.png 00:15:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> too few trains at paper pickup now :( 00:15:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> They come in waves 00:15:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or did we remove trains? 00:15:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we added more :P 00:15:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we identified the problem :P 00:15:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What's the problem? 00:15:54 <PublicServer> <Owen> The problem was waves causing massive production changes causing waves 00:16:01 <PublicServer> <Owen> We now have waves causing massive production changes 00:16:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 00:16:11 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yay :P 00:16:28 <PublicServer> <Owen> I think we should perhapsj ust give in and insert depots to buffer things temporarily :p 00:17:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nevarrrr! 00:17:37 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But we should balance somewhere between paper pickup and paper drop 00:17:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Only two lines used 00:17:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Causing quite a stirr 00:18:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> possibly a new exit which balances traffic better? 00:18:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's an option too :) 00:19:53 <PublicServer> <Owen> Ratings have crashed 00:19:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> There's something weird with the SLH 02 exit west too 00:20:03 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It keeps backing up 00:21:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Can't anyone with some skills make a balancer around ! Balance Here ? :) 00:21:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Watch that for a while and see if you notice anything bad :) 00:25:00 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:25:11 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> paper pickup jamming again, because of low rating ofcourse xD 00:25:27 <PeterT> [18:47:56] <XeryusTC> V453000: PeterT is being annoying in #tycoon <-- This is true 00:25:34 <PeterT> *was 00:25:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> We have plenty of holding track, lets just let it jam :p 00:25:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Damn it builds up quickly 00:26:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> almost 300 trains :P 00:27:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now the rating should be enough again :P 00:27:34 <PublicServer> <Owen> :p 00:27:56 <PublicServer> <Owen> The jam no longer reaches the Ml 00:28:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00015E73: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00015E73.png 00:29:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We should balance the entrance too 00:29:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Middle line isn't even being used :P 00:29:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Much 00:30:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jam 00:30:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 00:30:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> slh7 00:30:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I've seen it 00:30:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> restore !temp fix to be fixed? :P 00:31:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wtf? 00:31:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wood trains at paper Food pickup? 00:31:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> crap 00:31:49 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> massive wood jam :s 00:31:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Massive jam 00:31:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Total jam 00:31:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 00:32:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm not even sure what someone did 00:32:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But... All wood trains went to Food pickup 00:32:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> might've been that i accidentally hit the maintenance order :P 00:32:37 <PublicServer> <Owen> Servicing 00:32:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ouch! Haha 00:32:48 <PublicServer> <Owen> Oh fun 00:32:57 <PublicServer> <Owen> Everything is gonna crash soo badly :p 00:33:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> This aint good 00:33:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sending paper trains on their way again 00:33:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so they dont block the network when wood works again :P 00:33:26 <PublicServer> <Owen> Production last month : 480 tonnes of paper 00:34:58 <PublicServer> <Owen> Can we trash the depots for now? 00:35:18 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:35:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I added some temp-balancing to the paper pickup-entrance 00:35:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Removing it when the flow's restored 00:37:09 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (connection lost) 00:37:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh ffs 00:37:27 *** master-sonic has joined #openttdcoop 00:37:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> paper drob is jamming now too :s 00:37:32 <master-sonic> !password 00:37:32 <PublicServer> master-sonic: wreath 00:37:44 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 00:38:06 <PublicServer> <Owen> OK all the FPP depots are gone 00:38:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Added another temp-balancing thing :P 00:38:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> please make them more useful than temp 00:38:31 <PublicServer> <Owen> Trains are having a panic attack it seems :p 00:38:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or we'll keep having jams :s 00:38:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I know Xer 00:38:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Just trying to get the network moving at a usable rate again 00:39:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So we can work at better things 00:39:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, that's currently not possible :P 00:39:36 <PublicServer> <Owen> Is it just me... or has that one accidental click on the service buttnon had disproportionate effects? :p 00:39:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Is it just me or is the game really laggy? 00:39:48 <PublicServer> <Owen> Giddorah: Trains are pathfinding intensely 00:40:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Poor server 00:40:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I feel bad for it 00:40:37 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Having to deal with our mess :P 00:42:06 <PublicServer> <sonic> there seems to be some problem with Vs station 00:42:16 <PublicServer> <Owen> Trains taking the wrong path 00:42:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah :s 00:42:36 <PublicServer> <sonic> maybe 2way signals at the junctions? 00:42:41 <PublicServer> <Owen> Both the station and trains are stubborn 00:42:58 <PublicServer> <Owen> Would break the station 00:43:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032A75: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00032A75.png 00:47:11 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That station seriously needs more than two entrance-lines 00:47:41 <PublicServer> <Owen> No, it needs a functioning exit first 00:48:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> True 00:48:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Exit's more important 00:49:12 <PublicServer> <Owen> Or rather it needs a merger that joins on to multiple lines 00:50:44 <XeryusTC> wow 00:50:46 <XeryusTC> now it has gone bad 00:51:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just stopped all trains :P 00:51:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah 00:51:16 <OwenS> 00:51:03 up 8:24, 2 users, load average: 1.63, 1.31, 0.83 he 00:51:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 00:51:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think we might be looking at a gridlock 00:51:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yes 00:52:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Pbs temp seems like a good idea 00:52:42 <PublicServer> <sonic> ok 00:52:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where is it coming from? 00:52:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I mean... It's picking only one lane somehow 00:52:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Paper Drop exit 00:53:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ay yes, i see 00:53:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think it's the culprit 00:56:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bah... 00:56:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's useless 00:56:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I was thinking it would merge with the outer line... But it merges with itself 00:56:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> keep it like this 00:56:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 00:56:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> have the lines split 00:56:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yep 00:56:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's what I was aiming for 00:56:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dont mix them, so they dont interfere with each other :P 00:56:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But... It's weird 00:57:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I didn't want them to mix :) 00:57:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But I noticed they were from the start :P 00:58:25 <PublicServer> <Owen> aaaaaaahhhhhh unplayable lag :p 00:58:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How's the server? :P 00:58:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00034847: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00034847.png 00:59:13 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 00:59:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 01:02:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i feel like sending every train to depot now and reconstruct some of those hubs :o 01:02:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but i also feel like catching some Zs 01:02:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'd go for #1 :) 01:02:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And I'll practice making mainline balancers :) 01:02:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wow 01:03:02 <PublicServer> <Owen> Coping 01:03:09 <PublicServer> <Owen> wha? 01:03:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh wait... this 'thing' /Pirate87 is messing up 01:03:19 <PublicServer> <Owen> silly ottd 01:03:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But... That's because of trains coming out of depot right? 01:03:41 <PublicServer> <Owen> what depot? 01:03:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... We sent all trains servicing a while ago 01:04:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Looks like we're not fully restored yet 01:06:08 <OwenS> I deleted those depots to stop the sevrvicing herd 01:06:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wont they just look for other depots? 01:06:44 <OwenS> No, they look for one when told to service and if its removed give up 01:06:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oooh 01:06:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Excellent 01:09:05 <PublicServer> <sonic> hm all the wheat trains are heading for bondtown depot for service... 01:09:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Delete it 01:09:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> :P 01:09:42 <PublicServer> <sonic> the orders are go to nearest... i dont think they'll ignore deleting 01:09:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh 01:09:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aren't that order to refit? 01:10:23 <PublicServer> <sonic> ah, yes 01:10:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Don't delete that then ;) 01:11:18 <PublicServer> *** Owen has left the game (leaving) 01:11:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think the worst part is over 01:11:40 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 01:12:08 <PublicServer> <sonic> all the wheat/food trains drive via paper/goods to refit 01:13:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Rebuilt the depots at food-station 01:13:08 <OwenS> You need to re-add the depots at the food plant 01:13:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000DB08: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000DB08.png 01:14:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Now I did :P 01:15:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Things will look better in a little while when all the food-trains get out of the paper-areas 01:15:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And lag is gone :) 01:15:27 <PublicServer> <sonic> yeah, much better now 01:15:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And look! 01:15:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Jams are gone :D 01:15:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Much more fluent exit from Paper Drop 01:16:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bah 01:16:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Paper exit is jamming up again 01:19:02 <PublicServer> <sonic> ill try balancing the oil trains. they all pick the left lane 01:20:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> compact merge is messing up 01:24:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Paper exit fixed... Again :P 01:29:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006C41: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00006C41.png 01:31:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Anyone still around? 01:31:29 <PublicServer> <sonic> yup 01:31:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good :) 01:32:34 *** OwenS has quit IRC 01:33:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Network is restored :) 01:33:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... For the most part 01:33:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Some stations dropped in ratings rather good 01:33:36 <PublicServer> <sonic> :) 01:33:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So it's not as fluent as before 01:33:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But they're fixing it :) 01:36:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Cool... We went from 141k delivered cargo to 27k :P 01:36:59 <PublicServer> <sonic> nice drop :D 01:37:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You seen the graph? :P 01:37:19 <PublicServer> <sonic> yeah, impressive ;) 01:37:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Very :P 01:38:11 *** VictorOfSweden has quit IRC 01:40:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why that depot? 01:40:26 <PublicServer> <sonic> was thinking about some overflow depot 01:40:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 01:40:32 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nah... It'll do :) 01:40:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Production's speeding up :) 01:41:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I wanna make it a ro-ro though 01:42:55 <PublicServer> <sonic> yes, that would also improve things 01:44:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008A21: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00008A21.png 01:59:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009824: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00009824.png 02:00:49 <PublicServer> <sonic> im going to get some sleep now 02:00:53 <PublicServer> <sonic> bye 02:00:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Go ahead :) 02:01:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sleep tight 02:03:28 <PublicServer> <sonic> thanks :) cu 02:03:31 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving) 02:03:31 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 02:07:15 <master-sonic> !password 02:07:16 <PublicServer> master-sonic: chills 02:07:28 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 02:07:31 <PublicServer> *** sonic has joined company #1 02:07:31 <PublicServer> 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Intexon joined the game 14:08:48 <PublicServer> <Intexon> good afternoon 14:12:34 *** Ryt0n has quit IRC 14:14:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006E27: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00006E27.png 14:15:04 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 14:15:16 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined company #1 14:16:00 *** mixrin has quit IRC 14:16:25 *** Karl_ has joined #openttdcoop 14:18:30 <Karl_> !password 14:18:30 <PublicServer> Karl_: tureen 14:21:00 *** Karl_ has quit IRC 14:22:24 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> it sure is quiet around here today 14:24:46 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 14:29:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000881F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000881F.png 14:44:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000AC7F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000AC7F.png 14:51:45 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 14:52:17 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hi 14:58:54 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> am I playing alone here ? 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<PublicServer> *** thomashauk joined the game 16:31:53 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 16:32:53 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk has left the game (leaving) 16:32:53 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 16:34:08 <Pirate87> !playercount 16:34:08 <PublicServer> Pirate87: Number of players: 2 16:34:48 <thomashauk> Games pretty much done IMO 16:35:06 <Pirate87> really ? 16:36:09 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 16:36:11 <Pirate87> there are some unresolveld issues 16:36:23 <Pirate87> and one SLH isn't built yet 16:36:28 <Barbaar> hiya everyone 16:37:47 <Barbaar> !password 16:37:47 <PublicServer> Barbaar: yapped 16:37:54 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 16:37:56 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 16:40:34 <thomashauk> But given there's a station at the opening going to a different sideline, will it ever be finished? 16:41:45 <Pirate87> that was supposed to be tempoary 16:42:35 *** thomashauk has left #openttdcoop 16:46:39 *** jondisti has quit IRC 16:57:54 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 16:57:54 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 16:58:00 *** Barbaar has quit IRC 17:00:42 <OwenS> I presume its unjammed after Xeryus brke the place last night? :p 17:01:35 <XeryusTC> jup :P 17:02:55 <Pirate87> what happened ? 17:03:09 <OwenS> Pirate87: He accidentally sent all the wood trains for servicing 17:03:24 <Pirate87> heh :) 17:03:36 <Pirate87> that must have been a mess :P 17:06:11 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 17:09:44 <Pirate87> !password 17:09:44 <PublicServer> Pirate87: exudes 17:09:55 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 17:09:56 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 17:11:56 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 17:14:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029EFC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00029EFC.png 17:17:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jam 17:17:51 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> at ? 17:18:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, its the trains im deleting :P 17:18:20 <Razmir> OT: is http://www.openttd.org/ out of order or there is some problem on my side? 17:18:31 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> why r you deleting trains ? 17:18:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because there was an unecessary coal station 17:27:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added 10 more paper trains :P 17:27:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> still odd, "oh noes, we have too many paper trains waiting" "well, add some more then, the queue will dissapear then" 17:28:06 *** Dred_furst has joined #openttdcoop 17:28:11 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> lol :) 17:28:53 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> paper trains have some trouble at the double bridges on the ML 17:29:16 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> once they jam it takes ages to clear 17:29:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> should've been the SLH which bridges there 17:29:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed :P 17:29:42 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> SLH 02 mostly 17:29:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024C96: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00024C96.png 17:29:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, it isnt 17:29:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> must be abigger underlying problem then :P 17:30:02 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> and SLH 07 17:30:15 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i've searched for like an hour 17:30:43 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> well this might help 17:32:18 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> wth ? 17:32:32 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> paper trains joining the ML at S jaak 17:32:37 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> but from the W ! 17:32:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 17:32:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> those are the new ones i added most likely :P 17:32:55 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> oh 17:33:32 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i think i found the source of food trains error 17:34:11 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> or i didn't :/ 17:42:28 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 17:44:37 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 17:44:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010A44: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00010A44.png 17:45:54 *** Kolbur has joined #openttdcoop 17:47:53 *** Radicalimero has joined #openttdcoop 17:48:36 *** Xaroth has joined #openttdcoop 17:49:43 <jondisti> !password 17:49:43 <PublicServer> jondisti: funner 17:49:53 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 17:49:57 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero joined the game 17:50:58 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 17:51:26 *** jondisti has quit IRC 17:54:43 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> do we build mixed stations ? wheat/gold for instance ? 17:55:44 <XeryusTC> i have :P 17:59:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002061A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002061A.png 18:14:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CE4C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002CE4C.png 18:20:59 <V453000> Pirate87, this might help: XeryusTC, Rebellous doing-stuff-differently-from-convention type of guy 18:21:12 <V453000> :P 18:21:19 <Pirate87> hehe :) 18:21:58 <Pirate87> but seriously is that wrong ? 18:23:07 <V453000> until it works it is ok 18:23:12 <V453000> it is a SL 18:24:21 <V453000> as I often like to say ... people here tend to absolutely stick to rules and don't see any compromise ... the solution is to THINK and see what could work where ... as XeryusTC does 18:24:28 <V453000> if it answers your question... 18:28:22 <Ammler> or in other words, if you do it, it is wrong 18:28:28 <Ammler> if XeryusTC does it, it is right 18:28:51 <Ammler> simple, isn't? :-P 18:28:54 <ODM> heh 18:28:58 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> yeah :P 18:29:55 <Ammler> mixing cargo in the same station needs a bit well thought train mainagement 18:29:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00027E2E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00027E2E.png 18:30:01 <KenjiE20> You must be level 99 to use "Think outside the box" 18:30:19 <KenjiE20> :P 18:30:25 <V453000> :D 18:31:54 <KenjiE20> you having fun there btw V? :P 18:32:46 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hmm, a simple question and suddenly everybody's here :) 18:32:59 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> and 3 hours ago i was talking to a wall 18:35:32 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 18:40:01 <OwenS> Its like people say you cant mix pickup and drop station... yes you can, it just takes a bit of inteligent ordering 18:42:41 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> `` 18:43:05 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> still can't figure out why some wheat trains go through wood drop 18:43:12 <KenjiE20> @dts 18:43:12 <Webster> Dumb Train Syndrome, for those times trains do inexplicable things (or a rather good sound system :) 18:43:20 <KenjiE20> ^ that's why 18:43:21 <KenjiE20> :P 18:43:40 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> :) 18:43:51 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> really no other explanation ? 18:44:10 <Ammler> what you mean with "some"? 18:44:15 <KenjiE20> there almost always is and explanation for DTS 18:44:23 <KenjiE20> an* 18:44:29 * OwenS seconds "or a rather good sound system" 18:45:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000252C1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000252C1.png 18:45:18 <KenjiE20> :D 18:45:49 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> Ammler, i don't understand the question 18:46:22 <KenjiE20> he means, why do you say 'some' and not 'the' or 'all' 18:46:57 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> cause it's just 'some' trains ? 18:47:39 <Ammler> which= 18:47:40 <Ammler> ? 18:48:00 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> they come from random farms 18:48:07 <Ammler> if you find out, which trains are "some", you might probably also know why... 18:48:32 <Ammler> if trains use a station they shouldn't 18:48:38 <Ammler> there is a serious bug somewhere 18:49:00 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hard to explain which 18:49:11 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> you'd just have to see for yourself 18:49:38 <Ammler> for example, you have a 4 line ML 18:49:40 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:49:50 <Ammler> one of those 4 lines miss a exit on the drop 18:50:02 <Ammler> so trains need to use another hub to "switch" line 18:50:04 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 18:51:41 <Ammler> "miss a exit" could also be a single signal the wrong way 18:51:50 <Ammler> or non erail track or such 18:52:44 <Ammler> @monolog 18:52:48 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i checked the signals 18:53:01 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> at least the ones close to the bug 18:53:18 <Ammler> well, I would guess, they are far away from teh bug 18:53:18 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> checked the electfification 18:53:19 <KenjiE20> Pirate87: it tends to be miles from the 'bug' 18:53:25 <Ammler> :-) 18:53:35 <KenjiE20> the bug area, is just the result of trains finding the other way 18:53:49 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i know that 18:53:51 <Ammler> I mean, you search for the bug on the wrong place... 18:53:52 <KenjiE20> you need to trace to area between 18:53:55 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> just gonna keep looking 18:54:10 <KenjiE20> Troubelshooting: OpenTTD style 18:54:14 <Ammler> mostly the hub where trains enter or exit the ML 18:54:20 <KenjiE20> trouble* 18:54:28 <KenjiE20> wtf is up with my typing today? 18:55:30 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> trying to narrow down the farms that the trains come from 18:56:07 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 18:59:00 <V453000> pew pew! blog updated 18:59:05 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop 18:59:33 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 18:59:35 <welshdragon> where can i find out about the GFX used in the grf pack? 19:00:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002467C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002467C.png 19:01:17 <V453000> welsch< 19:01:18 <V453000> ? 19:01:23 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Advanced Building Revue 02: Splits <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/03/25/advanced-building-revue-02-splits/> 19:01:54 <welshdragon> V453000: there is a Toll Booth GRF in there 19:02:05 <welshdragon> i want to know what it does 19:02:09 <V453000> ah 19:02:14 <V453000> it changes the transmitters 19:02:20 <V453000> into weirdo houses 19:02:25 <welshdragon> aah 19:02:28 <V453000> but Im not sure if it works in arctic 19:02:57 <welshdragon> thanks 19:02:59 <V453000> k 19:03:02 <V453000> np 19:03:07 *** welshdragon has left #openttdcoop 19:03:09 <V453000> its my dinned time =) 19:03:21 <Ammler> welshdragon: it doesn't allow to drive with beer trains 19:03:34 <V453000> ? :D 19:04:16 <V453000> Kenji: could you please read my crappy article and add it some touch of actual English? :P 19:13:03 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 19:15:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001B7D4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001B7D4.png 19:17:38 *** einKarl has quit IRC 19:18:32 *** Skol has quit IRC 19:19:27 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 19:19:48 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> cześć 19:19:55 <PublicServer> *** Kolo has left the game (connection lost) 19:20:50 <V453000> !password 19:20:50 <PublicServer> V453000: laking 19:20:53 <Kolo> nowitam 19:20:57 <Kolo> no witam 19:21:23 <Kolo> ale chyba powinniśmy gadać po angielsku :) 19:21:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:21:31 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> ok 19:26:54 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 19:30:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol :) my huge merger has quite a fine bug 19:30:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000CB04: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000CB04.png 19:30:26 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> where ? 19:30:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> msh 03 19:31:04 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what's wrong with it ? 19:31:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is wrong from the very idea :D 19:31:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> it cant be merged so 19:31:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> the bridges fail 19:32:23 <PublicServer> *** Kolo has left the game (connection lost) 19:32:27 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> at least it doesn't jam 19:32:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> it would jam if there would be higher traffic 19:32:44 <Pirate87> Kolo, shitty ISP ? 19:33:45 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> ok, i give up on this dts 19:33:53 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> at least for now 19:34:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:34:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> dts is strong 19:34:08 <Kolo> nope - slow comp 19:34:43 <Kolo> cant handle so many trains :( 19:34:43 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> brb 19:34:50 <Kolo> !info 19:34:50 <PublicServer> Kolo: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Geborough Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 9564215655 Loan: 0 Value: 9569528670 (T:924, R:11, P:0, S:0) unprotected 19:39:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just electrificated the whole map 19:39:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> some piece(s) were unelectrified 19:40:21 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:42:55 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> as far as i know most of the dumb trains go through SLH 05 19:43:21 <OwenS> OK guys, a few fixes and... ProgSigs with arbitrary signal lookups 19:43:21 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> one was from SLH 04 19:43:50 <V453000> yaaay :D madness 19:44:20 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> who changed the whole network to electrified raile 19:44:30 <V453000> me 19:44:32 <OwenS> What I need to do: 1) Close the signal window when a signal is deleted (Else even prodding that window causes a crash), 2) Check youre not depending upon another comapny's signals because OpenTTDdislikes that 19:44:33 <V453000> forgot :D 19:44:40 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> lol 19:44:40 <V453000> !password 19:44:40 <PublicServer> V453000: vacate 19:44:45 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> nice jam :P 19:44:57 <V453000> coming in 19:45:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:45:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00036E0D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00036E0D.png 19:45:10 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> looks like u broke your hypnotizer V :P 19:45:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> heh 19:45:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> me dumb 19:46:00 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> epic jam :D 19:48:02 * V453000 slaps V453000 around a bit with a large fishbot 19:52:49 <V453000> !fish 19:52:49 <PublicServer> V453000: Today's fish is a dolphine from a tunafish can... yummy! 19:52:57 <V453000> ugh 19:53:15 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> V453000: so you know, you didn't fix the wheat train error :P 19:53:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> I know 19:54:22 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i checked all the signals from MSH 02 to SLH 05 19:55:05 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i think the problem is somwhere in the FFP exit 19:57:02 *** Dred_furst has quit IRC 19:57:19 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:00:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000134EE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000134EE.png 20:05:06 <V453000> 21 000 words in the last 30 days? 20:05:08 <V453000> insane number 20:07:15 <KenjiE20> @calc 21000/30 20:07:15 <Webster> KenjiE20: 700 20:07:17 <KenjiE20> meh 20:07:38 <V453000> hmmm 20:07:53 <V453000> I wonder how much has a book :D 20:08:33 <KenjiE20> that would depend on the book 20:08:47 <V453000> a "normal" book :P 20:09:00 <KenjiE20> define normal 20:09:15 <V453000> not too long or short :) 20:10:31 <KenjiE20> @google word length book 20:10:32 <Webster> KenjiE20: The Ideal Length for Your Book « Modern Matriarch: <http://modernmatriarch.wordpress.com/2007/09/26/the-ideal-length-for-your-book/>; Word count - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_count>; Writing Books: Word length for memoirs, girl scout leader, writers ...: <http://en.allexperts.com/q/Writing-Books-675/Word-length-memoirs.htm>; (1 more message) 20:12:44 <KenjiE20> 21k is just about short story then 20:12:48 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> gotta go eat something 20:12:50 <V453000> kk 20:12:56 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> cya guys 20:12:59 <PeterT> bye 20:13:04 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (connection lost) 20:15:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000281CC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000281CC.png 20:19:26 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 20:20:12 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 20:21:55 <PeterT> @define lickspittle 20:22:02 <PeterT> @dict lickspittle 20:22:04 <Webster> PeterT: No definition for "lickspittle" could be found in wn 20:23:51 <KenjiE20> yea, I see what's causing the lost wheat 20:24:16 <KenjiE20> there's no choice at fpp -> msh 02 20:24:51 <KenjiE20> well, there is choice 20:24:58 <KenjiE20> but it's rendered pointless by the refit 20:25:39 <KenjiE20> atm it's FPP -> choose -> refit -> out direction 20:25:58 <KenjiE20> it needs to change around to fpp -> refit -> choose -> out 20:33:47 *** pugi has quit IRC 20:36:01 *** Kolo has quit IRC 20:43:49 *** Razmir has quit IRC 20:44:16 *** Razmir has joined #openttdcoop 20:45:02 *** Razmir has joined #openttdcoop 20:45:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001EF06: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001EF06.png 20:47:51 <V453000> !password 20:47:51 <PublicServer> V453000: attest 20:48:15 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:48:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> omg 20:48:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> you are right Kenji 20:51:36 <OwenS> OK, the progsig station entry works wonders 20:51:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:51:48 <OwenS> Kinda arsey to code, but scales well 20:52:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is expected 20:55:03 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 20:56:47 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:00:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000092BE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000092BE.png 21:00:47 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:07:23 <OwenS> Ammler: Someone needs to make the OpenGFX company faces less creepy 21:08:06 <planetmaker> define "creepy", OwenS 21:08:22 <planetmaker> if you mean the spice influence: yes 21:08:26 <OwenS> planetmaker: The eyes are just... wrong 21:08:53 <Radicalimero> just use sun glasses :P 21:09:08 <planetmaker> but the first attempt I received there still didn't extinguish spice residue. 21:09:18 <Ammler> hehe 21:09:22 <planetmaker> Radicalimero: that option is present. 21:09:34 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> i know 21:09:56 <Ammler> OwenS: report in tt-forums.net about... 21:10:15 <planetmaker> ^ yeah, that would give it the needed attention ;-) 21:10:20 <planetmaker> quite honestly 21:10:21 <OwenS> More important things to do. Like fixing crashes :p 21:10:27 <planetmaker> :-( 21:10:34 <Ammler> indeed :'-( 21:10:36 <planetmaker> That's also a kind of crash 21:10:41 <Ammler> :-D 21:10:47 <OwenS> Crashes in my patch take priority ;-) 21:11:06 <planetmaker> buh :`-( Not even a lousy posting 21:11:06 <Ammler> we need a perfect OpenGFX for openttd 1.0 :-P 21:11:23 <Ammler> your patch won't go to trunk that fast ;-) 21:11:29 <planetmaker> :-D 21:12:46 <planetmaker> OwenS: btw, the more remarkable then is that you found time to be the 3rd person to add useless postings to a simply mis-placed thread 21:13:11 <OwenS> planetmaker: compiling ;-) 21:13:29 <OwenS> (And don't make me look up the xkcd) 21:13:33 *** Razmir has left #openttdcoop 21:14:00 <planetmaker> I've read them all, but I don't have clue which you mean ;-) 21:14:04 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero has left the game (connection lost) 21:14:23 <OwenS> You made me :-( 21:14:24 <OwenS> http://xkcd.com/303/ 21:14:25 <Webster> Title: xkcd: Compiling (at xkcd.com) 21:14:51 <planetmaker> oh :-D 21:15:11 <V453000> :D :D 21:15:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000072E7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000072E7.png 21:15:46 <planetmaker> V453000: btw... damn, I knew I forgot to ask something :S 21:15:55 <V453000> ? 21:16:11 <V453000> about the comic thingies I guess 21:16:27 <OwenS> Uuuurgh... save load code broken 21:16:48 <planetmaker> V453000: no... about creators of nice food names. 21:16:58 <V453000> ah :D 21:17:05 <planetmaker> (swap word order, if appropriate) 21:17:18 <planetmaker> and he left today :-( 21:17:21 <V453000> not needed, main is that I understand 21:17:26 <V453000> you know his name already? :) 21:17:40 *** Radicalimero has quit IRC 21:17:41 <planetmaker> well... no! 21:17:47 <V453000> :D ok 21:17:51 <V453000> I asked my friedns 21:17:57 <V453000> and we are quite sure it is him :) 21:18:07 <V453000> David Herčík should be it :) 21:18:17 <planetmaker> He'll be back the weekend. 21:18:21 <V453000> :) 21:18:48 <planetmaker> the world is sooo small :-) 21:18:57 <V453000> well we are close :) 21:19:03 <V453000> but sure it is 21:20:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok the wheat dts problem is solved 21:21:24 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 21:21:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:21:36 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> howdy 21:21:42 <Pirate87> V453000, what was wrong ? 21:21:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> the refit depots 21:21:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> they were before the choice 21:21:53 <Pirate87> ? 21:22:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> vice versa 21:22:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> the trains first went to depots 21:22:20 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 21:22:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> but the depots already were chosen 21:22:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> so they couldnt return to the right choice 21:22:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> the ones going to the west also errored, but they were "just" going all around the whole map so we didnt notice 21:23:09 <Pirate87> ahhh :) told you it was somwhere in the FPP exit 21:23:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> now it is ok 21:24:12 <pugi> !password 21:24:12 <PublicServer> pugi: unpick 21:25:15 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 21:25:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:26:03 *** Razmir has joined #openttdcoop 21:27:45 <Giddorah> !password 21:27:45 <PublicServer> Giddorah: unpick 21:27:54 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 21:28:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> V: You wanted more details on the food error? 21:28:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 21:28:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is solved already 21:28:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Someone flagged 21:28:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh! 21:28:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good job :D 21:28:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> I solved it just a few minutes ago 21:29:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah, I see someone posted more detailed flags :) 21:29:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You should have been here last night V :) 21:29:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We had alot of fun battling a complete gridlock ;) 21:30:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe 21:30:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002DA8B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002DA8B.png 21:30:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wanted to check all places being electrified today 21:30:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> so I dragged over all over the map 21:30:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 21:30:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> you should have seen what it made :D 21:30:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> (hypnotizer not gates are maglev) 21:30:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oooooh! Haha 21:31:02 *** Polygon has quit IRC 21:31:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I guess that didn't go as planned? :P 21:31:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... no 21:31:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 21:31:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> but we can be sure all things are erail 21:31:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well, that's important :) 21:31:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:31:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And it's not that hard to convert the maglevs back :) 21:31:54 <V453000> it isnt 21:31:57 <V453000> but it created a huge jam 21:32:00 <V453000> all over the network 21:32:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I bet 21:32:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> trains were stopping everywhere 21:32:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... We had a huge buildup in like 20-30 seconds 21:32:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Didn't take long at all... Can't remember what we did either 21:32:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think paper exit jammed, and we accidentally sent all paper trains to depot or something :P 21:32:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Boom 21:32:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Complete gridlock :P 21:33:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 21:33:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well :) It's running very fluently now :) 21:33:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:33:33 <OwenS> Giddorah: Xeryus accidentally sent all the woods to service 21:33:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah :) 21:33:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:33:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It was a mistake... But it was fun solving it :) 21:34:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And when we thought it was solved... Boom... Gridlock somewhere else :) 21:34:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It's when you push the network a little that you notice the bottlenecks 21:34:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So I think the network now is alot more stable thanks to X :) 21:41:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyways ... I guys recommend you to check some free servers on stable versions :D you will respect all this stuff much more afterwards :D 21:41:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I really like that you can put refit orders... Can you do that in 0.7.5 too? 21:41:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> (I did) :D 21:41:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont know Giddo 21:41:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 21:41:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes you can 21:41:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> I did it 21:42:03 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's awesome 21:42:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> I actually tried it just before this PSG :) 21:42:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> I always try things before I put them into plans 21:42:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I just love the food and paper lines with them switching to goods 21:42:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I love it 21:42:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> I like it too 21:42:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I kind of want to make love to the one who figured that one out 21:43:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> I even mixed a special GRF settings to make every cargo refittable 21:43:23 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 21:43:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> in temperate 21:43:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> and with wagon ratios 1:1 21:43:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> results in awesome game 21:43:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 21:43:59 <OwenS> New progsigs at http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=47690&p=866843#p866843 21:44:01 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - ProgSigs - Programmable Signals patch (at www.tt-forums.net) 21:44:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> HAHAHAHA LETS MAD 21:44:18 <V453000> Thx Owen 21:45:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00021A34: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00021A34.png 21:46:11 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (connection lost) 21:46:54 <pugi> it would be great to add some kind of tracer to a train, zoom out all the way and make a train trace their way from pickup to drop and back :D 21:48:34 <Ammler> pugi: there was once such a patch around 21:48:36 <V453000> what do you mean 21:48:49 <Ammler> well not exactly like you mean, but you were able to control a train 21:48:58 <V453000> o_O 21:49:00 <pugi> hm, that is not what i mean.. 21:49:22 <pugi> i mean add something like a red dot to a train, and make it mark the way it goes on the map :D 21:49:36 <Ammler> pugi: ctrl-eye? 21:49:38 <pugi> i know it is very unlikely... 21:49:40 <V453000> ^ 21:49:46 <pugi> hm? 21:49:47 <pugi> :O 21:49:54 <gleeb> A patch to trace the path of the train as it travels, so you can see what path it took. 21:50:18 <pugi> yeah 21:50:23 <Ammler> nice idea :-) 21:50:38 <Ammler> why shouldn't that be liked? 21:51:03 <pugi> something like... redraw the dot at the position of the train every 10ms but don't remove the old ones 21:51:12 *** Dred_furst has joined #openttdcoop 21:51:20 <Ammler> ah, only the way it drove? 21:51:30 <Ammler> not the way the pf says? 21:51:36 <pugi> i didn't say it shouldn't be liked... i only thought it would be hard to program in openttd 21:54:50 *** Dred_furst has quit IRC 21:57:01 *** Intexon has quit IRC 21:57:51 <Ammler> !content 21:58:46 <V453000> !fish 21:58:46 <PublicServer> V453000: Today's fish is a dolphine from a tunafish can... yummy! 21:58:48 <V453000> !cat 21:58:50 <V453000> !dot 21:58:52 <V453000> !dog 21:58:56 <V453000> !giraffe 21:58:59 <V453000> aww :( 21:59:04 <planetmaker> !fish 21:59:04 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Today's fish is sashimi with a trace of blowfish. 21:59:14 <planetmaker> :-) Mine is more tasty ;-) 21:59:21 <V453000> !rabbit 21:59:44 <V453000> it should say not just fish but any animal 21:59:49 <V453000> :P 21:59:59 <planetmaker> hm... then rather: 21:59:59 <KenjiE20> V453000: if you write the responses... 22:00:01 <planetmaker> !meat 22:00:07 <V453000> !meat 22:00:17 * KenjiE20 gives V453000 a hearty slap 22:00:25 * V453000 slaps V453000 around a bit with a large fishbot 22:00:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CE4C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002CE4C.png 22:00:30 <V453000> fun! :D 22:00:34 <planetmaker> Actually KenjiE20 is right. it's quite easy to add. Just someone has to do the nonsense ;-) 22:00:38 * KenjiE20 slaps V453000 and starts getting carried away 22:00:42 <KenjiE20> ^ mine's better 22:00:46 <KenjiE20> :) 22:00:51 <V453000> haha so fun 22:00:53 <V453000> beat him 22:00:55 <OwenS> !fisj 22:00:58 <OwenS> !fish 22:00:58 <PublicServer> OwenS: Today's fish is smoked eel on toast with horseradish cream. 22:01:09 * planetmaker grabs a large, smelly trout. Who wants a beating? 22:01:15 <V453000> me 22:01:16 <OwenS> IIt sounded nice until the horseradish 22:01:16 <V453000> me 22:01:16 <V453000> me 22:01:17 * OwenS wonders 22:01:19 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 22:01:24 <KenjiE20> horseradish rocks 22:01:27 <OwenS> !tell planetmaker about !fish 22:01:27 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Today's fish is sashimi with a trace of blowfish. 22:01:31 * planetmaker beats V453000 with a large smelly trout 22:01:33 <V453000> Kenji: about how many responses with how many kinds? 22:01:36 <OwenS> So it tells them about their fish :p 22:01:41 * V453000 enjoys the fishpain 22:01:45 <KenjiE20> V453000: that would be up to you now wouldn't it 22:01:52 <planetmaker> OwenS: sounds about useful, not? ;-) 22:01:53 <V453000> he 22:02:40 <planetmaker> V453000: if you got ssh access to the server you can start right now to add stuff ;-) 22:02:52 <V453000> :< 22:03:02 <planetmaker> if not... we could arrange for that :-) 22:03:26 <KenjiE20> he doesn't 22:03:32 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> V :) I've got a question about the hypnotizer ;) 22:03:38 <KenjiE20> pm; c'mon V running around on a server 22:03:39 <V453000> yes? 22:03:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It's got 16 timers 22:03:47 <KenjiE20> utter chaos 22:03:48 <OwenS> Incidentally, unless I get any bug reports with this release of ProgSigs (Which, even if it crashed as soon as you started the damn game, would be unlikely...), this is the version I hope for us to run on the DevZone :-) 22:03:49 <planetmaker> lol 22:03:53 <pugi> is your question: what the hell?! :D 22:03:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 12 tracks 22:04:00 <V453000> :D 22:04:07 <OwenS> Giddorah: They're NOT gates, not timers 22:04:14 <V453000> quite important ^^ 22:04:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> pugi: Haha... Nah :) Just trying to understand it a bit more :) 22:04:22 <V453000> Giddorah: read the newest blog article 22:04:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Not gates and not timers 22:04:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh 22:04:36 <pugi> yeah, i know that these are not gates 22:04:44 <pugi> but i still don't know what the hell it does :D 22:04:49 <pugi> i guess some kind of balancing :P 22:04:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aaaah! I didn't even see that article 22:04:59 <V453000> read the newest blog article 22:05:02 <V453000> pugi ^ 22:05:07 <pugi> i already read it 22:05:19 <pugi> as i got a new twitter announcement :P 22:05:24 <V453000> :) 22:06:49 <pugi> ah flipflops 22:06:57 <planetmaker> wow, that's even used :-) 22:07:14 <KenjiE20> pm, it's an auto thing 22:07:17 <pugi> i can only do flipflops with transistors... 22:07:18 <pugi> :D 22:07:36 * KenjiE20 needs his head to leave the fluff space, so coding can happen -_- 22:07:48 <OwenS> The flipflops were invented back in ~2006 IIRC 22:08:05 <OwenS> I know Wolf01 posted them in my original NAND topic 22:08:06 <V453000> Owen: but still not documented 22:08:15 <OwenS> V453000: They were kinda documented ;-) 22:08:26 <V453000> kk :) 22:08:32 <KenjiE20> V453000: then you have work to do :P 22:08:39 <V453000> I will tomorrow 22:09:12 <OwenS> Hopefully ProgSigs should mostly obsolete them. I say mostly as if you need to store state, ProgSigs cant do it alone 22:10:18 <PublicServer> <pugi> wow 22:10:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Got to study that article hard 22:10:24 <PublicServer> <pugi> back lockup in the south 22:10:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> on briged 22:10:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> bridges <.< 22:10:37 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I so want to learn using "not-gatesnottimers" 22:11:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> or is it east? :D 22:11:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> East is upper right corner of the screen 22:11:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> North is upper left 22:11:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay, it is south 22:11:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is northwest 22:11:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Make a "! here" flag? :) 22:11:47 <PublicServer> <pugi> slh 01 22:11:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah 22:11:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight 22:12:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How did that happen? 22:12:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> too many trains at farm 22:12:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> tadingsay bridge transfer seems to be broken 22:12:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> I deleted them 22:13:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> not enough wheat produced 22:13:45 <OwenS> !password 22:13:45 <PublicServer> OwenS: chalet 22:13:53 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 22:14:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Too many trains on that oil-place too 22:14:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Gonna re-build a little I think 22:14:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> 24 trains on that oil... 22:14:49 <PublicServer> <Owen> Has Paperdrop been rebuilt a bit or have I just turned on bridge visibility? 22:15:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C9D5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000C9D5.png 22:15:30 <Pirate87> !password 22:15:30 <PublicServer> Pirate87: smacks 22:15:52 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 22:16:12 <V453000> Owen: no rebuilds 22:16:19 <PublicServer> <Owen> OK, so just my settings 22:16:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> 24 trains for tennden valley oil wells? :O 22:16:37 <V453000> btw. the progsigs are überinsane 22:16:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... It's quite high in production though 22:16:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But it's... A lil jammy :P 22:16:57 <OwenS> V453000: Played with them? 22:17:06 <V453000> just trying atm 22:17:10 <OwenS> :-) 22:17:27 <V453000> the option to select any signal on the map, not even connected by any rails, is relly . 22:17:34 <V453000> mAAAd 22:17:52 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i'd love to try them 22:17:55 <OwenS> By the way, I forgot to add a check that the signal you're selecting is an exit to the patch 22:18:03 <OwenS> Pirate87: If you can compile, go grab em off TT-Forums 22:18:23 <Pirate87> i tried compiling something once 22:18:30 <Pirate87> i think it was cargodist 22:18:31 <OwenS> Pirate87: Windows? 22:18:36 <Pirate87> but failed miserably 22:18:38 <Pirate87> yep 22:18:42 <OwenS> Ping Peter :P 22:18:56 <OwenS> He seems to make everyone else's windows builds :p 22:19:21 <Pirate87> well maybe i'll give it a try again on the weekend 22:19:50 <Pirate87> i already have some compiling stuff instaled 22:21:24 <PublicServer> <pugi> no, there is no space for signal.. 22:21:42 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> where are you guys building ? 22:21:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> boring stuff :P 22:22:03 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Rebuild an oil-station :) 22:22:10 <V453000> holy crap 22:22:13 <V453000> holy fucking crap :D 22:22:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ? 22:22:23 <V453000> testing the signals 22:22:25 <V453000> oh my god 22:22:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Which signals? 22:22:28 <OwenS> V453000: What you built? 22:22:34 <V453000> nothing yet 22:22:35 <PublicServer> <pugi> first time building something in openttd for months just now :D 22:22:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 22:22:44 <V453000> just imaginating the possibilities 22:22:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh, those cool signals by Owen? 22:23:00 <OwenS> Correct 22:23:05 <pugi> do the new signals have counters? 22:23:17 <OwenS> pugi: No 22:23:21 <pugi> :( 22:23:35 <Pirate87> @ttf progsigs 22:23:35 <OwenS> Considering the way signals work, it would be rather unpredictable 22:23:36 <Webster> Transport Tycoon Forums • Search - http://www.tt-forums.net/search.php?keywords=progsigs 22:24:19 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 22:24:37 <pugi> :O 22:25:22 <PeterT> :O 22:25:37 <PeterT> @list ttf 22:25:40 <PeterT> @help ttf 22:25:40 <Webster> PeterT: (ttf <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "phpbb3search http://www.tt-forums.net/ @1". 22:26:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We've got a retarded PBS-signal 22:26:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> all pbs signals are awesome! 22:27:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Watch that for a while 22:27:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> why is that bad? 22:27:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> ok 22:27:19 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm 22:27:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> See? 22:27:30 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah 22:27:34 <PublicServer> <Owen> Where? 22:27:36 <Ammler> OwenS: uses a silly gui font 22:27:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sometimes it just doesn't let any trains go through 22:27:48 <OwenS> Ammler: I'm currently back at the default 22:27:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yes 22:27:53 <Ammler> :-) 22:28:05 <OwenS> Actually, it looks great in most apps. OpenTTD mauls it due to no subpixel hinting 22:28:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> i've seen that on pbs signals sometimes... and i don't know the cause :( 22:28:23 <PublicServer> <Owen> Giddorah: Where? 22:28:24 <pugi> comic sans ms... <.< 22:28:32 <OwenS> Actually it's Andika :p 22:28:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Watch that for a while and you'll understand what I mean 22:28:52 <V453000> crash ´=( 22:29:06 <OwenS> They're rather different fonts. Comic Sans MS is silly. Andika is designed to be easy to read, which is valuable at TTD's small font sizes 22:29:17 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Now 22:29:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why isn't it letting that train through? 22:29:36 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> where ? 22:29:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 22:29:47 <PublicServer> <pugi> still at sign ! Retard? 22:29:58 <OwenS> Ammler: Theres a picture of it here http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/render_graphic.php?site_id=nrsi&type=media_graphic&filename=../sites/nrsi/media/And_Basic_Defaults_Alternates.png&image_type=png&width=647&height=177 22:30:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Watch it for a while 22:30:11 <OwenS> (And seriously, what kind of URL is that SIL? 22:30:17 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It'll deadlock soon 22:30:23 *** skol has joined #openttdcoop 22:30:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Not deadlock... But jam 22:30:24 <Ammler> yes, doesn't work :-( 22:30:28 <skol> !password 22:30:28 <PublicServer> skol: smacks 22:30:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00023483: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00023483.png 22:30:39 <Ammler> my client cuts the link at .. 22:30:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Now 22:30:46 <OwenS> Ammler: Copy and paste :p 22:30:50 <PublicServer> *** Skol has left the game (connection lost) 22:30:55 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> looks like trains don't like some lanes 22:30:56 <skol> !password 22:30:56 <PublicServer> skol: frugal 22:31:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... 22:31:12 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> combo would solve the issue 22:31:27 <Ammler> and gitourios gives 5.3 22:31:31 <PublicServer> *** Skol joined the game 22:31:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Doesn't it mean we could have a problem on those two lanes somewhere? 22:31:32 <Ammler> 503* 22:31:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> adding penalty to lowest path would help? 22:31:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Which makes them not able to get to their destination? 22:31:46 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> maybe 22:31:50 <OwenS> Ammler: Gitorious gives it for what? 22:31:51 <Ammler> gitorious* 22:32:06 <Ammler> http://gitorious.org/oshepherd-misc/openttd-progsigs/commits/progsig 22:32:11 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> but i think it's something with the PF 22:32:17 <OwenS> http://gitorious.org/oshepherd-misc/openttd-progsigs/commits/ 22:32:22 <OwenS> I forgot to remove the defunct branch 22:32:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Some trains simply refuse to use any other lane than the most western 22:33:01 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> maybe other lanes don't have a certain exit ? 22:33:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah, which would be a bigger problem 22:33:32 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Seems food-trains don't like the other exits 22:33:42 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> looks like they're mostly wheat trains 22:33:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yep... Only food trains have a problem with it 22:33:48 *** Ryt0n has joined #openttdcoop 22:33:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh... Wheat :) I meant wheat! 22:34:03 <PublicServer> *** Ryt0n liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 22:34:20 <PublicServer> *** Ryton joined the game 22:34:30 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> but once they're past that signal they chose both lanes 22:34:31 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost) 22:34:51 <Ryt0n> crappy old computer 22:34:56 <Ryt0n> cant handle thenumber of trains 22:35:00 <Ryt0n> how many are there now? 22:35:06 <Ryt0n> !list 22:35:08 <KenjiE20> !info 22:35:08 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Geborough Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 10538712117 Loan: 0 Value: 10544192709 (T:944, R:11, P:0, S:0) unprotected 22:35:11 <Ryt0n> ty 22:35:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You sure? 22:35:13 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> RytOn: !info 22:35:23 <Ryt0n> it has glitches 22:35:27 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> watch it 22:35:31 <Ryt0n> only loads every 0,5 to 1 second :p 22:35:39 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> 944 trains 22:35:40 <Ryt0n> I dont think thas normal :p 22:36:30 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> see 22:36:58 <PublicServer> *** Ryton joined the game 22:36:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Aight... Check the four lanes entering Wheat-drop 22:37:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> i am now 22:37:10 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost) 22:37:35 <Ryt0n> second try... failed :p 22:37:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay, the top 2 should work 22:37:44 <Ryt0n> laterz 22:37:48 *** Ryt0n has left #openttdcoop 22:37:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> they are connected 22:37:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I guess it could have to do with the pathfinder 22:37:49 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> Giddorah: check !here sign 22:38:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, never used that path... but it is connected 22:38:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> there might be some signal errors or they are just too long, dunno 22:38:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Lets check them just incase 22:39:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Oil-trains use them 22:39:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So can't be signal errors 22:39:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It must be because they're too long 22:40:06 <OwenS> Ammler: Git pulled successfully? 22:40:58 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> fixed :) 22:41:04 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i hope 22:41:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh? 22:41:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> wheat train on the top :D 22:41:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where? How? 22:41:21 <PublicServer> <pugi> train 653 22:41:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah, I saw 22:41:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> what was wrong? 22:41:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But more interested in the fix ;) 22:41:40 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> it needed two way signals 22:41:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> i saw some money spent on signals... 22:41:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That was it? :O 22:41:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 22:42:03 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I see where you added them :P 22:42:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm freaky like that :P 22:42:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good :) Network will be much better balanced :) 22:42:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> and why did that fix it? :/ 22:42:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Pathfinder sometimes need a two-way :) 22:42:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm, okay 22:43:33 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> when it has a choice between a two way and a one way 22:43:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> They still prio the western lane... But they don't completely reject the othersr :) 22:43:41 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> it choses one way 22:43:52 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> and when it has two two ways 22:44:02 <PublicServer> <pugi> two way has some penalty, correct? :D 22:44:03 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> it choses green if possible 22:44:30 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> not exactly 22:44:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> hmm... 22:44:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Might feel like a minor thing to fix... But... It's a bug and needed to be fixed :) 22:44:54 <Ammler> OwenS: I didn't clone/pull 22:45:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay, i might just never get this weird signal stuff :D 22:45:30 <V453000> OwenS: it crashers :( 22:45:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00023889: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00023889.png 22:45:33 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> pugi: it's like with SMLs 22:45:35 <V453000> crashes 22:45:58 <OwenS> V453000: What did you do? 22:46:22 <V453000> I dont know ... now I just opened the "New Vehicles" window, before I built a depot 22:46:50 <OwenS> Thats interesting as I haven't touched the vehicles code! 22:46:59 <PublicServer> *** Owen has left the game (leaving) 22:47:37 <V453000> yea 22:47:46 <V453000> thats the reason why I say idk 22:47:51 <V453000> because weird : 22:47:55 <OwenS> If you want to try to reproduce it, can you turn misc debugging up to to? pass -dmisc10 or "debug_level misc=10" in console 22:49:05 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> pugi: it works like this: 22:49:09 <V453000> wow 22:49:15 <OwenS> ? 22:49:20 <V453000> autosave uncompatible 22:49:21 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> if a PF has to chose between 2 2-way sighals 22:49:26 <OwenS> :s 22:49:50 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> and the shorter path is red 22:50:02 <OwenS> It should assert failure if its a problem with the progsigs data (I want to track that specifically for now) 22:50:06 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> it will chose the longer 22:50:29 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> with 1 way it'll way for the shorter path to clear 22:50:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> that should be expected... but it always prefers 1 way signals? 22:50:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay 22:51:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> so with only one way signals it always waits for the shortest path to be green? 22:51:23 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> it just tries to stop trains from waiting at red 2 way signal at all cost 22:51:40 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> yes, unless they're combo 22:51:45 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i think 22:52:15 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> pugi: have you ever built a cyclotrone ? 22:52:20 <OwenS> V453000: I'm having no luck reproducing :-S 22:52:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> no and i don't want :D 22:52:30 <V453000> :| 22:53:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> too much messing with my head ;) 22:53:10 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> you could just grab a savegame of a wiki :) 22:53:22 <PublicServer> *** Skol has left the game (leaving) 22:53:35 <PublicServer> <pugi> well, i did grab a few savegames already... a few more months ago 22:53:36 <OwenS> Built 10 progsigs, opened trains window, closed it, built depot, deleted it, built another, built train, deleted both, nothing :-S 22:54:10 <OwenS> Any newgrfs loaded? 22:54:14 <V453000> before I didnt even have any progsig on the map 22:54:19 <V453000> many newgrfs 22:54:23 <OwenS> Hmm. 22:54:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I made those lanes a little bit more attractive for food-trains 22:54:32 <OwenS> Did it print a backtrace in the console? 22:54:47 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> Giddorah: how ? 22:54:51 <V453000> something ... but then I overwrote it by a wrong crash save 22:54:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I rebuilt the network 22:55:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> you put nude girls next to the lanes? :D 22:55:05 <OwenS> Heh 22:55:06 <V453000> I will try for some more 22:55:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Check just before the entrance to wheat-drop 22:55:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Was taking a long way around... 22:55:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So I just... Rebuilt it :) 22:55:41 <OwenS> Thing that makes this difficult is that newgrfs can also cause crashes :S 22:55:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah this, now i see it 22:56:02 <V453000> kk 22:56:06 <V453000> I will try without em 22:56:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh :) Good :P 22:56:23 <planetmaker> OwenS: but they don't for "usual" use 22:56:39 <OwenS> planetmaker: A bug in them could potentially 22:57:12 <planetmaker> well, it *could*. But using them on your patched version... unlikely. Anyway... good night :-) 22:57:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm good at making changes that... Don't really matter :P 22:57:36 <OwenS> planetmaker: I'm not discounting my own code. Just i'd be surprised as I haven't touched vehicles at all! 22:57:45 <OwenS> (Well, except for a oneliner in yapf_costrail) 22:58:04 <planetmaker> well... what newgrfs do you use and why do you test with newgrfs? 22:58:35 <OwenS> I should probably enable some. My config tends to be pretty spartan as, well, most of my playing is done on an #ottdc server :p 22:58:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Paper exit is starting to jam up 22:58:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Dunno if it is because of a wave 22:59:01 <planetmaker> :-) Then... if testing with is fine, you're fine 22:59:03 <V453000> many newgrfs ... from 4 vehicle sets over much of terrain, infrastructure to av8 and TTRS 22:59:21 <V453000> but on unpatched versions it did no bad things 22:59:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Nvm 22:59:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It's fixing itself...Must be just regular wave-trafficking :) 22:59:42 <planetmaker> The "default" newgrf should be pretty safe 22:59:52 <V453000> right 23:00:20 <V453000> I am one of the people who love AsiaStars anyways =) 23:00:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> yay, new mythbusters episode online finally :D 23:00:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001BEA3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001BEA3.png 23:00:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm waiting for Destination Truth and Ghost Hunters :( 23:00:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Guys 23:00:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> SLH02 is jamming up 23:01:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> and i am waiting for april 2nd... stargate universe continues :D 23:01:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We need to do something to the wood-area tracks 23:02:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm... Is the pathfinder starting to eat the server again? 23:02:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe he is hungry 23:03:47 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> a 1000 trains is not so much 23:03:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Can't we depot some of those wood-trains and remake the entire wood-area? 23:03:58 <OwenS> Hmm... There have been a few NewGRF changes in trunk lately 23:03:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It has almost no waiting areas 23:04:02 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:04:04 <V453000> !info 23:04:04 <PublicServer> V453000: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Geborough Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 10699006298 Loan: 0 Value: 10704036176 (T:944, R:11, P:0, S:0) unprotected 23:04:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And the waiting areas are locking up eachothers 23:04:23 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> xx 23:04:31 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> waiting bays suck 23:04:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Pirate: Weren't you here when X sent all paper-trains to servicing last night? :P 23:04:47 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> nope 23:05:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... I can tell you that 400+ paper trains looking for the nearest depot bought some big load to the server :P 23:05:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> brought 23:05:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe refitting is bad... 23:06:18 <PublicServer> <pugi> is it possible to make a nice network without any orders at all? :D 23:06:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Added an overflow-depot at St. Dralow Woods 23:06:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> To get rid of some trains 23:07:00 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> this area has signal issues 23:07:11 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> s 23:07:18 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> lots of signal gaps 23:07:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wood area? 23:07:44 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> yeah 23:08:53 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> also lots of crossings 23:09:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 23:09:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wanna clean it up with me? 23:09:34 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i'm doing some right now 23:09:44 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> some stations have not enough platforms 23:10:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 23:11:00 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> overflow depots should be double 23:11:20 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 23:11:20 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 23:11:20 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 23:11:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh, I wanted to make waiting-space available behind it 23:11:44 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> but the exiting train blocks entrance 23:11:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And I wasn't thinking of it as a permanent sollution :) 23:12:03 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 90 degree turn 23:12:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Not anymore :P 23:12:15 <V453000> OwenS: now I doubleclicked Begin 23:12:19 <V453000> and boom 23:12:50 <V453000> not even a word in console 23:12:50 <OwenS> V453000: you mean the Start instruction line? 23:12:53 <V453000> yes 23:13:13 <OwenS> Thats something which may be easier to repro :p 23:13:23 <V453000> cant reproduce 23:13:28 <V453000> omg 23:13:32 <OwenS> Neither can I... irritatingly 23:14:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Did you depot some trains? 23:14:39 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> no 23:14:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> the whole west wood area should be redone... 23:14:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Weird 23:14:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... I think so too 23:14:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> starting with the three incoming lines 23:15:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002150A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002150A.png 23:17:11 <OwenS> That it didn;t produce any kind of crash log is really disappointing :-( 23:17:19 <V453000> ye 23:17:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe we should walk St. Dralow Heights a bit further east? 23:17:35 <V453000> is it possible to make "if a selected signal is red" not green? 23:18:00 <OwenS> Not at present. Stick your code in the else branch :p 23:18:07 <V453000> kk 23:18:14 <V453000> just asking 23:18:27 <OwenS> Now thats interesting; I had a window open and it just randomly crashed 23:18:28 <PeterT> Since when are you on #tycoon, V453000? 23:18:31 <PeterT> You're not even on the forums 23:18:45 *** Kolbur has left #openttdcoop 23:19:09 <V453000> ah 23:19:17 <OwenS> Hmm... SaveLoad crash... Autosave 23:19:20 <V453000> just came to see what kind of mess you made there yesterday :D 23:19:28 <OwenS> That could account for a bit 23:19:30 <V453000> yea autosave fails 23:20:26 * PeterT messes up V453000 ' 23:20:45 <OwenS> V453000: But not always 23:20:50 <V453000> what is the issue Peter? 23:20:51 <OwenS> Got it to crash in GDB though 23:21:00 <V453000> I tried just once 23:21:07 <V453000> GDB? 23:21:10 <OwenS> Debugger 23:21:13 <V453000> ah 23:22:07 <OwenS> Hmm... I think it's probably a bug in the If logic 23:22:18 <OwenS> I.e. an If isn't removing its children correctly 23:22:27 <V453000> ah 23:22:29 <V453000> hmm 23:22:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That should be better 23:23:09 <OwenS> If its what I think it is... really stupid bug 23:23:10 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> propably 23:23:43 * OwenS administers cluebat to self 23:24:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That should be even better :) 23:24:41 <OwenS> You'd delete an if, and the Endif and Else would get left in the internal instruction tables. When it came to time to save, they would try to find the ID of their parent If in said table... but it no longer existed. Boom! Assertion failure! 23:25:12 <V453000> hmph 23:25:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm, is someone building something at Old Winstoke Woods? 23:25:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Put a flag instead :) 23:25:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> there is a piece of rail missing 23:25:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> :P 23:25:47 <V453000> OMG fucking spring! I got room full of stupid insects 23:25:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 23:26:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 23:26:08 <OwenS> V453000: Doing a long fastforward test now 23:26:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Weird :D 23:26:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good find :) 23:26:22 <V453000> yeah 23:26:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> well, i thought someone might be working on it... 23:26:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I don't care :P 23:26:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay :D 23:26:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Shouldn't have to disconnect an entire station to do work on it :P 23:27:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 23:27:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But like I said :) Good find! 23:27:29 <V453000> OwenS: anyways ... I somehow can't think of some really awesome use for it ... besides all kinds of gates 23:27:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Does the refit-cost fall under train running costs? 23:27:50 <V453000> OMG 23:27:55 <OwenS> V453000: Mmm. I'm having a bit of trouble too :-( 23:28:04 <V453000> yeah =( 23:28:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> no idea 23:28:10 <V453000> but lets not be pesimistic 23:28:19 <V453000> I believe in time we will think about something 23:28:32 *** thgergo has quit IRC 23:28:43 <OwenS> V453000: Update should get mirrored to Gitorious in 2 mins, or I should have the patch posted at the same time :p 23:28:59 <V453000> .) 23:29:05 <V453000> ^cyclops 23:29:15 <KenjiE20> yarrr 23:29:23 <KenjiE20> that be a pirate 23:29:29 <V453000> :D 23:29:35 <KenjiE20> o) be a cyclops 23:29:40 <V453000> right 23:29:44 <V453000> 0) 23:29:53 <KenjiE20> 0| more like 23:29:56 <V453000> O) 23:29:57 <KenjiE20> :P 23:30:10 <V453000> Q) 23:30:11 <KenjiE20> when was the last time ye saw a cyclops smile? 23:30:26 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 23:30:26 <V453000> true 23:30:35 <V453000> cyclops doesnt ever smile 23:30:48 <pugi> sorry Giddorah, have to watch mythbusters now :D 23:30:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001D971: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001D971.png 23:30:52 <OwenS> V453000: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=47690&p=866864#p866864 23:30:54 <V453000> >o( 23:30:54 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - ProgSigs - Programmable Signals patch (at www.tt-forums.net) 23:31:14 <V453000> kk :) I will test tomorrow 23:31:15 <KenjiE20> >OE 23:31:18 <V453000> :D 23:31:30 <V453000> that looks more like > "O" and "E" :P 23:32:28 <V453000> }OP 23:32:34 <V453000> ok 23:32:40 <V453000> enough cyclopses :D 23:32:47 * KenjiE20 np: 01. Hans Zimmer - Jack Sparrow :: Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest 23:32:55 <KenjiE20> I blame you for making me all piratey 23:33:01 <OwenS> rofl 23:33:04 <V453000> :D 23:33:06 <V453000> !fish 23:33:06 <PublicServer> V453000: Sorry, only have fish from yesterday! come back tomorrow for today's fish! 23:33:11 <V453000> awww 23:33:16 <V453000> !tiger 23:33:18 <V453000> !lion 23:33:19 <V453000> !cat 23:33:21 <V453000> !dog 23:33:22 <V453000> !me 23:33:56 <PeterT> !tell V453000 !shatt up 23:33:56 <PublicServer> PeterT: unknown command "shatt" 23:34:00 <PeterT> hehe 23:34:10 <PeterT> PublicServer: You don't know anything, except for what you know. 23:34:20 *** PeterT was kicked by KenjiE20 (Take your rude words away) 23:34:20 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 23:34:24 <V453000> :D 23:34:26 <V453000> lol 23:34:47 * PeterT throws his rude words #away 23:36:29 <V453000> I will have to think about the animals when I have some time to kill 23:36:42 * KenjiE20 stabs time 23:36:44 <KenjiE20> Yarr! 23:36:57 * V453000 passes Kenji another rum 23:37:02 <V453000> (a keg for sure) 23:37:10 * KenjiE20 tips it into the grog barrel and swigs that 23:37:19 *** skol has quit IRC 23:37:27 * V453000 goes for beer 23:38:36 <KenjiE20> /Beer Beer Beer, The Man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddy, beer/ 23:38:47 <KenjiE20> (points for reference) 23:38:48 <KenjiE20> :P 23:38:56 * V453000 points his finger at Kenji's empty rum laughing and opens his beer 23:39:15 <V453000> :PP 23:40:58 * V453000 is in a bad situation because his beer is empty too now =( 23:43:24 <V453000> !assword 23:43:26 <V453000> !password 23:43:26 <PublicServer> V453000: pliers 23:43:44 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 23:43:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> ih 23:45:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029704: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00029704.png 23:47:45 <gr00vy> !password 23:47:45 <PublicServer> gr00vy: cactus 23:48:03 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 23:48:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 23:48:18 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hi 23:50:03 *** Razmir has left #openttdcoop 23:50:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> we shouldnt add any wood trains anymore imo 23:50:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> only others 23:50:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Tired of paper? ;) 23:50:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> look what it does to the network 23:50:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 23:50:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I know 23:50:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We're just making improvements to existing sidelines 23:51:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I even made an improvement to a temporary hookup :P 23:51:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont like when our games end up with maniacal productions of one cargotype and the rest just sucks 23:51:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> kk 23:52:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The wood area was causing gridlocks all the way out to mainline... So me and Pirate redid some of it 23:52:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And it's looking alot better 23:52:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 23:53:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But it's like... 40% of our trains are paper/wood 23:53:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 23:53:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the issue 23:53:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yep 23:53:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I can understand that :) 23:54:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We did some minor adjustments to the wheat-drop entrance-lines too 23:54:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So wheat trains pick all four lines a bit more often 23:54:26 <OwenS> !password 23:54:26 <PublicServer> OwenS: cactus 23:54:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So that should be ready for alot more traffic 23:54:34 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 23:54:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 23:54:44 <PublicServer> <Owen> hi 23:54:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah ... see how psg 169 looked 23:54:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> all just oil 23:54:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 23:56:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... oil tends to be high in temperate when there are the oil derrics ... but we even started with oil and didnt have any other cargo for the first ... many years 23:56:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> that was sad :( 23:56:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> because the plan was focused on splitting traffic all over the network 23:58:11 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well.. It's easy to fall for that :) 23:58:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> This game for example... Well... We did have alot of wood... So why not transport it all? :P 23:58:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And look what happened :P 23:58:44 <V453000> I could be handled 23:58:52 <V453000> but you have to start handling it soon enough 23:59:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> for example I tried to toy with that a lot in my last SP game 23:59:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> I built a road network and said "here will be 5000 RVs." 23:59:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> and then I added and added and tried to use every corner of the network 23:59:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> just by adding the right industries